I have both of them. I spend a lot of time restoring old family photos. Topaz AI works great for that. Then I take them over to NEO and see what I can do to improve the photo even more.
Your information about the extensions is incorrect. If you have a monthly, annual or bi-annual plan you get all the extensions as well. You only have to buy them as add-ons if you choose the lifetime (dumb name) license over the subscription.
I'm a Luminar Neo user, having used all the preceding versions. Its catalogue function is pretty limited, so I used it as an extension of Apple's Photos, which is rubbish for photo editing, but serves well as my DAM. One is not limited to an annual subscription, as a perpetual license can be purchased and the "add ons" purchased as desired, which is what I've opted to do. The "Supersharp" add-on has come in handy, but is usually just a "Meh!" fix. The "Noiseless" does a beautiful job, however. One does have to keep an eye on whether one is working with a RAW file (Develop module, Noiseless, Supersharp) or not (i.e., have switched to other editing tools). However, one can go back to the edit history to jump back into the RAW file at any point.
Go with both...Neo and and Topaz really, are two different animals other than the noise, sharpening, etc; For myself, I go NEO first...While I wait on the length of time for sharpening with NEO, I take the raw file to Topaz AI and and do the noise/sharpening and wait for the results of NEO. If NEO doesn't handle portions of it, I can take the TOPAZ over to NEO with the initial changes and edit from there. I am very much wiliing to be corrected. Not a LR fan, yet! :) Great show, David!!
I'm with you. I use Neo first then Topaz just did a final "polish" that brings the picture to the next level. I just recently cancelled my subscription to Adobe and Acdsee. Still impressed enough to keep ON1. They all are not identical. If you have the yearly subscription to Neo you get all the modules as they come out! @@LandscapePhotographyUniversity
@@grantw7 Wouldn't it be nice if just one of them did everything they claim they did... I have to usually use 2-4 different packages to get what I need.
I'm looking to fix some out-of-focus shots I did for a gig. I tried topaz and liked the results, but $200 is a bit much for me to drop unexpectedly, and it looks like luminar does not do monthly subs anymore (although it's still cheaper). Who here can tell me which Ai does a better job at fixing blurry pics? Are they comparable? For reference, I'm trying to fix a blurry portrait shot. It's not vehemently out of focus, but enough to be distasteful. Thanks
I have both but have not upgraded for some years. This BF24, LN includes ALL plugins with the Lifetime upgrade for $35. Less than half the upgrade compared to Photo AI. Plus I got an extra 10% off with a coupon. No brainer at the moment.
6:50 I believe they do include all the features in the sub? BTW, Topaz software are off payments but you normally only get 1 year's worth of upgrades for "free" so technically you'll need to pay for upgrades on top of the one-offs. Worth checking this.
@@LandscapePhotographyUniversity I might be wrong but it's definitely worth checking. I *might* take the current Luminar Pro deal before it runs out - so I'll find out and report back if I do. I'm kinda interested on the quality of the upscale between Luminar and other upscalers like ImgLarger and Upscayl (which runs on your local machine). I'd love to hear a pro's opinion on this. :-)
Thank you so much for this comparison. I just got luminar Neo and always wonder if I make the right choice. Love you videos and perspective on everything that’s out there. Your videos are so educational. Thank you again.
Perhaps as a photographer, Neo is the better deal but as a photo editor with huge experience already with Photoshop, it would be extremely limiting to try to switch to NEO and deal with what they have available for photo editing let alone the amount of time that would need to be put into relearning a new software well.
Right nkw, Luminar Neo can be purchased at a 1 time cost of $300 CDN, including 8 pro extensions. They do this type of deal regularly, and it is hands down the best deal on AI based photo editing software. Affinity Photo is the best deal on great photonediting software but it doesn't have the bells and whistles of Luminar Neo.
Define one time cost? What happens when they update or add features, do you get them? The problem with Skylum is that they want to charge every time for new features.
@@GaryBox Every update for both Luminar Neo and Affinity Photo are free. Owned Affinity for years and never a cost for updates. Owned Luminar Neo since it was released. Same thing. Zero costs for updates. But updates are not upgrades. As expected, you pay for upgrades.
Topaz Photo AI 2.0 is now released, as of this writing, on 2023/09/22. There seems to be many improvements, including lighting and color balance, which I have not yet fully explored. That said, I don't believe I need these extra features from Topaz Photo AI, and I certainly don't need Luminar Neo with all its plugins. I do have a license for Neo, but I uninstalled it a while back. For straight photo editing (no fancy 'shopping), as is the subject here, I process all my raw files in DxO Photolab first. I'm on the most recent version of Photolab as of this date. All color corrections and preliminary cleanup are done in Photolab (mostly automated), except for a few "problem files," then I send the photos directly from Photolab to Topaz Photo AI. I batch process and let Photo AI do it's automated processing without interference, and let it auto save all the files to high-quality JPGs. These two apps work together almost seamlessly, are both intuitive and automated, and the results are amazing. This has been the biggest boon to my workflow that I've seen in decades, especially for massive amounts of files, as would come from a wedding shoot, or a day of portrait shooting, and works just as well for my hobbyist landscape photos. The time saved is enormous, and the quality is top notch after the Topaz AI processing. If I want or need to do some really fancy 'shopping of some select wedding photos or portraits, I pull the selected already-processed HQ JPGs into either Corel Painter, or into Corel PaintShop Pro and the usually the Nik and ParticleShop plugins. I use no subscription editors anymore, and I do not miss Lightroom and Photoshop at all.
I didn't quite catch it all here. But Topaz Photo ai has overall enhancement. If you've got scratches, dust, accidentily bumped your tripod while taking a shot, in addition to various types of noise cleanup. Does Luminar Neo do this too?
Luminar cannot sharpen an image without distorting features.. to cleanup old scratched images in Neo you can use the clone tool.. takes time but can be done. I have to use other software to sharpen.. Blurbuster is a mobile app or Evoke.. I use both
Topaz Sharpening their standalone app is better than the sharpening in AI, IMHO. Topaz AI renews at an update rate that's less than the annual rate, which you pay for the 1st year.
No, there are slightly blurred and/or out of focus pictures that can be helped greatly with these software products. One that is as far gone as this pelican are hopeless cases.
You can NOT compare Topaz Photo AI vs Luminar NEO without blaming yourself a fool. TPAI has a few very restricted but very strong functions while LN is a full functions photo editor. A comparison is total nonsense.
skylum is even scummier than adobe... every time they think of a feature they release new product and want $200 for it... and charge for every feature separately.
Luminar NEO: skylum.evyy.net/x9YVPk
I have both of them. I spend a lot of time restoring old family photos. Topaz AI works great for that. Then I take them over to NEO and see what I can do to improve the photo even more.
I have to differ... Blurbuster sharpens images 3 times better and 10 times faster.. you should try it
@@mavic3 what is blurbuster?
Your information about the extensions is incorrect. If you have a monthly, annual or bi-annual plan you get all the extensions as well. You only have to buy them as add-ons if you choose the lifetime (dumb name) license over the subscription.
I'm a Luminar Neo user, having used all the preceding versions. Its catalogue function is pretty limited, so I used it as an extension of Apple's Photos, which is rubbish for photo editing, but serves well as my DAM. One is not limited to an annual subscription, as a perpetual license can be purchased and the "add ons" purchased as desired, which is what I've opted to do. The "Supersharp" add-on has come in handy, but is usually just a "Meh!" fix. The "Noiseless" does a beautiful job, however. One does have to keep an eye on whether one is working with a RAW file (Develop module, Noiseless, Supersharp) or not (i.e., have switched to other editing tools). However, one can go back to the edit history to jump back into the RAW file at any point.
Good points!
Go with both...Neo and and Topaz really, are two different animals other than the noise, sharpening, etc; For myself, I go NEO first...While I wait on the length of time for sharpening with NEO, I take the raw file to Topaz AI and and do the noise/sharpening and wait for the results of NEO. If NEO doesn't handle portions of it, I can take the TOPAZ over to NEO with the initial changes and edit from there. I am very much wiliing to be corrected. Not a LR fan, yet! :) Great show, David!!
Awesome! The only issue with using both is the cost but they both do a great job in their own right
I'm with you. I use Neo first then Topaz just did a final "polish" that brings the picture to the next level. I just recently cancelled my subscription to Adobe and Acdsee. Still impressed enough to keep ON1. They all are not identical. If you have the yearly subscription to Neo you get all the modules as they come out! @@LandscapePhotographyUniversity
Topaz is not as good as Blurbuster App
@@mavic3 Isn't that apple based only?
@@grantw7 Wouldn't it be nice if just one of them did everything they claim they did... I have to usually use 2-4 different packages to get what I need.
I'm looking to fix some out-of-focus shots I did for a gig. I tried topaz and liked the results, but $200 is a bit much for me to drop unexpectedly, and it looks like luminar does not do monthly subs anymore (although it's still cheaper). Who here can tell me which Ai does a better job at fixing blurry pics? Are they comparable? For reference, I'm trying to fix a blurry portrait shot. It's not vehemently out of focus, but enough to be distasteful. Thanks
I have both but have not upgraded for some years. This BF24, LN includes ALL plugins with the Lifetime upgrade for $35. Less than half the upgrade compared to Photo AI. Plus I got an extra 10% off with a coupon. No brainer at the moment.
6:50 I believe they do include all the features in the sub?
BTW, Topaz software are off payments but you normally only get 1 year's worth of upgrades for "free" so technically you'll need to pay for upgrades on top of the one-offs. Worth checking this.
Oh yikes! Thanks for that
@@LandscapePhotographyUniversity I might be wrong but it's definitely worth checking. I *might* take the current Luminar Pro deal before it runs out - so I'll find out and report back if I do.
I'm kinda interested on the quality of the upscale between Luminar and other upscalers like ImgLarger and Upscayl (which runs on your local machine). I'd love to hear a pro's opinion on this. :-)
I like that tool. It works well although I don’t use it much
yeah i think ill probably go for Luminar instead of topaz... Its just sad that you have to buy the extra plugins
It’s definitely not ideal but they’re great if you use them a bunch
Apples and oranges. Plus you needed to run the Dust Spot Removal. Neo also has other Denoise and Sharpen tools besides the extensions.
They do. I just wanted to compare exact same tools. That’ll be a diff video
Thank you so much for this comparison. I just got luminar Neo and always wonder if I make the right choice. Love you videos and perspective on everything that’s out there. Your videos are so educational. Thank you again.
Thank you!
Thanks for the comparison. Super helpful.
Thanks for watching!
Perhaps as a photographer, Neo is the better deal but as a photo editor with huge experience already with Photoshop, it would be extremely limiting to try to switch to NEO and deal with what they have available for photo editing let alone the amount of time that would need to be put into relearning a new software well.
As a landscape photographer myself Neo is AMAZING.. but lacks severely if trying to bring old photos back to life..
Thanks for your review,i know what to do now.
Luminar!
My pleasure 😊
Right nkw, Luminar Neo can be purchased at a 1 time cost of $300 CDN, including 8 pro extensions. They do this type of deal regularly, and it is hands down the best deal on AI based photo editing software. Affinity Photo is the best deal on great photonediting software but it doesn't have the bells and whistles of Luminar Neo.
Ohhh word! That’s a solid deal
Define one time cost? What happens when they update or add features, do you get them? The problem with Skylum is that they want to charge every time for new features.
@@GaryBox Every update for both Luminar Neo and Affinity Photo are free. Owned Affinity for years and never a cost for updates. Owned Luminar Neo since it was released. Same thing. Zero costs for updates. But updates are not upgrades. As expected, you pay for upgrades.
@@GaryBox some new features are completely free. And feally nice new features. And some are an extra, very reasonable cost.
@@GaryBox- Yeah, I’m still reeling that they ditched support on Luninar AI, shortly after I purchased it.
Topaz Photo AI 2.0 is now released, as of this writing, on 2023/09/22. There seems to be many improvements, including lighting and color balance, which I have not yet fully explored. That said, I don't believe I need these extra features from Topaz Photo AI, and I certainly don't need Luminar Neo with all its plugins. I do have a license for Neo, but I uninstalled it a while back.
For straight photo editing (no fancy 'shopping), as is the subject here, I process all my raw files in DxO Photolab first. I'm on the most recent version of Photolab as of this date. All color corrections and preliminary cleanup are done in Photolab (mostly automated), except for a few "problem files," then I send the photos directly from Photolab to Topaz Photo AI. I batch process and let Photo AI do it's automated processing without interference, and let it auto save all the files to high-quality JPGs.
These two apps work together almost seamlessly, are both intuitive and automated, and the results are amazing. This has been the biggest boon to my workflow that I've seen in decades, especially for massive amounts of files, as would come from a wedding shoot, or a day of portrait shooting, and works just as well for my hobbyist landscape photos. The time saved is enormous, and the quality is top notch after the Topaz AI processing.
If I want or need to do some really fancy 'shopping of some select wedding photos or portraits, I pull the selected already-processed HQ JPGs into either Corel Painter, or into Corel PaintShop Pro and the usually the Nik and ParticleShop plugins. I use no subscription editors anymore, and I do not miss Lightroom and Photoshop at all.
I didn't quite catch it all here. But Topaz Photo ai has overall enhancement. If you've got scratches, dust, accidentily bumped your tripod while taking a shot, in addition to various types of noise cleanup. Does Luminar Neo do this too?
Yup
Luminar cannot sharpen an image without distorting features.. to cleanup old scratched images in Neo you can use the clone tool.. takes time but can be done. I have to use other software to sharpen.. Blurbuster is a mobile app or Evoke.. I use both
Topaz Sharpening their standalone app is better than the sharpening in AI, IMHO. Topaz AI renews at an update rate that's less than the annual rate, which you pay for the 1st year.
Good to know!
Thank You So Much!
You bet!
Thanks for the useful shoot-out.
For me, the background muzac added nothing useful to the content. Why bother?
Fair! Thanks for the feedback!
There still is no substitute for getting it correct on the camera!
There’s no doubt about that
It would be more helpful if you used a picture that isn't hopelessly blurred. in my opinion. :)
But then it wouldn’t need any help from what these tools promise to do
No, there are slightly blurred and/or out of focus pictures that can be helped greatly with these software products. One that is as far gone as this pelican are hopeless cases.
Luminar NEO has a huge sale going on. 139$ lifetime subscription. Only 3 more days though!
Go Vols!
YES!
This only touched the surface in comparing noise reduction and sharpening. Title should have been clearer.
a better comparison would have been Liminar vs HitPaw, hitpaw seems much closer to luminar when comparing so its an even match
@@austinharding9734 Ive been using Luminar for 12 months.. trialled Hitpaw today.. stay with Luminar
Comparing apples with oranges 🙄
James Hatfield
What about him
Um - that's comparing kiwi fruit to potatoes. They are essentially for completely different purposes.
I use Topaz Photo AI AND Luminar in that order.
Conjunction, not "conjuncture" (SIC)
It’s good to use them both together
bro do more like why only 7 mins where is the Ai ?!
I like your video, but everything has limits. Adding a good photo to the software improves it. Bad-terrible photos really cant be improved.
Topaz is a waste of money. So far best ai i ever used is remni it will use ai to feel in soft pictures.
You can NOT compare Topaz Photo AI vs Luminar NEO without blaming yourself a fool. TPAI has a few very restricted but very strong functions while LN is a full functions photo editor. A comparison is total nonsense.
@@rr_p6692 Well that would depend on what you were ttying to do with an image.. wouldnt it?
skylum is even scummier than adobe... every time they think of a feature they release new product and want $200 for it... and charge for every feature separately.