There is a Oregon Historical Monument at the site across the road from the stage station/tavern/hotel. Lots of people (including me) have placed momentos on the monument in a touching tribute to Charboneau. I heard he was on his way to the gold strike in Helena MT.
Im a native of Calif. Auburn and Placer county are my home town. Ive spent many great days swimming the american river. My oldest son still lives there. Im in Grand Junction Co. Now. Thank you, really informative info.
That was one of the most amazing stories I have ever heard. He was involved in every important event in US history from his birth until the Civil war. He was a real tiger, no wonder considering his parents.
I have visited his grave site twice at Inskip Stage Station, in Oregon. Once before I read a book about his life, and once after. Interesting man. Interesting life.
Thank you for a great video ! As an avid history buff of both African and American early explorers. I grew up on the banks of the Mupfure (Umfuli) river amongst Africans who were just one generation from tribesmen where medicine, the wheel, gunpowder, glass, a compass, hygiene, irrigation or mosquito nets were unknown and where slavery was common. I spent many years riding around in the African veld with my 2 dogs near the town of Chegutu (formerly Hartley) & just a few miles from where the famous elephant hunter Henry Hartley used to set up camp and by accident discovered gold there. He befriended many African chiefs with some basic knowledge of medicine as did both David Livingstone and Lewis & Clarke. I have traveled the entire Lewis & Clarke route and rafted some of the Yellowstone.. I humbly suggest another topic for you to consider - David Thompson 1770-1857 (86). Arrived in Churchill Manitoba, Hudson Bay aged 14 !! Nearby York Factory was one of the first fur-trading posts established by the HBC, built in 1684 & used for 270 yrs til 1954 . (see the York Factory Express for another fascinating story) Twice annually 1821-1846, men traveled the York Factory Express to Fort Vancouver WA and back. Thompson traveled 56,000 miles across N America, mapping 1.9 million sq miles of N America. In 1799 he married Charlotte Small, a 13 yr old Métis daughter of Scottish fur trader & Cree mother. They had 13 children stayed married 57 years, the longest marriage known in 19th century Canada. Charlotte Small traveled 3½ times farther on these expeditions with Thompson and their children than did the American explorers Lewis and Clark. A terrific story in my view.
Man, you guys just keep knocking it out of the park! Great job again! The fur trade has been a lifelong study for me & you put years & many documents all in one convenient and accurate place for me about 'Ol Pomp. Only correction would be of pronunciation: Gros Ventres is pronounced "grow vaunt", which translates 'big bellies'; and Nez Perce is pronounced "nez purse" (means 'pierced noses' and, technically would be 'nay pursay', though no one does. Married to a Nez Perce for over 30 years, never heard her or her relatives say it that french way.) They met Lewis & Clark on a Camas prarie outside of present day Pierce, Idaho. (That first meeting might be a future video for you. Great story, there.) The Nez Perce didn't pierce their noses, but were camped there with some Flatheads who did. Probably where the error crept in. The name they call themselves is Nee-Me-Poo, meaning "the people". Have you ever noticed how many Indian nations, in their own tongue, call themselves "The People"? Many were very ethnocentric; I mean they viewed the world as made up of 2 groups: there's us (the people), and there's everybody else (those people). Always wondered if the founding fathers borrowed that for beginning the Decaration of Independence. Thoughts? Again, a superb video. Thank you.
Thanks for the added detail and the help with the pronunciation! You have unique insight that we appreciate you sharing with us. Thank you for sharing!
Jacques de Noyon (1668-1745) a French Canadian explorer, coureur des bois. He is the first known European to visit the Boundary Waters region west of Lake Superior. In 1688, he led an expedition into territory unknown to fur traders. He & his men reached Rainy Lake. After wintering on the Rainy River, they pushed on to Lake of the Woods in 1689. There some Assiniboines told Noyon of a route to Lake Winnipeg via the Red River. His sister was the great-grandmother of Toussaint Charbonneau (1767-1843) a Canadian-born explorer, fur trapper, merchant & generally just a nasty swine. Toussaint came down to Mandan from Winnipeg where I now live to purchase 15 yr old Sacagawea who had been captured from her Shoshone tribe & sold into slavery. What you may not know is just how interesting this area was to the history of US & Canada. Three lakes approx 140 miles apart are the sources of 3 rivers that flow to 3 different oceans. Lake Itasca near Bemidji MN - source of the Mississippi river - Gulf of Mexico. Lake of the Woods near Kenora ON - Winnipeg River - Hudson Bay, Arctic Ocean. Rainy Lake near International Falls ON - Pigeon River - Great lakes, Atlantic Ocean.
I am always looking forward to watching your documentaries. I have lived in eastern Washington for most of my life and just now learning of the many men they did not mention in history class. Thanks again.
James Beckwourth is my favorite Mountain Men, You should do a Video on him, If you've one already I apologize. I've read most Bios I can find on these men and Beckwourth or Beckwhitt is heads above them all IMO.
Such interesting characters back then and such an interesting time and place to live. Life was tough, so I suppose they had to be hardy to survive. A pity he died of pneumonia at such an age. Younger than me at the time of his death. I wonder if the hard life he had led, contributed to his relatively early death. An interesting story, I remember about his Mother from the Lewis and Clark journals. That expedition was a fascinating story in itself.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Steven. Jean Baptiste truly lived a unique life and there is much to be learned from his experience and the experience of others who lived during such a challenging time.
Average life expectancy, in early 1800s, was 30-40 years. And that's for average lives... Many in cities/farms. His life was far from average, start to finish.
I owe all of your viewers an apology. I am the artist that created the depiction of Jean Baptiste Charbonneau featured throughout this video. My source for the illustration showed an image that I thought was Charbonneau but, in fact appears to be Jim Beckworth. I am in the process of correcting the error everywhere this image was published.
This very exhilarating, and I hope it is true, but I read that the young Charbonneau boy went to St. Louis with Lewis as stated, but stayed there. What is the source of your information?
I think the picture shown this video is actually a picture of James Beckwourth, not a picture of Jean Baptiste. Anyway, it seems like he lived an interesting, varied, and idyllic life for that time period.
The picture shown is a painting done by Jeff Byrd of Sacramento who is a descendant of Jean Baptiste Charbonneau. It’s titled: Jean Baptiste Charbonneau-Guide Source: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/california-pioneer-history-exemplified-in-art-competition?lang=eng
Time 3:10 "The two set sail on the Smyrna from St. Louis in December 1823" with a picture of 3-masted sailing ships and a steam ship with two masts. I don't believe sailing ships of this sort were at St. Louis on the Mississippi River. Did the two perhaps set sail from New Orleans, Louisiana on a sailing ship named Smyrna or perhaps a riverboat in St. Louis named Smyrna?
While they appear similar you are mistaken. The image used in the thumbnail indeed is a depiction of Jean Baptiste: www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2016-02-04/california-pioneer-history-exemplified-in-art-competition-28596
@@LegendsoftheWest '95' is a modern highway but sure is not a freeway. It has been maybe 25 years since I was there..I guess there is something marking the side road. I remember the building being something like stone or concrete..for protection from the injuns.
One of my favourite historical figures, think it was his language proficiency that drew me to him, remember I first learnt of him in Japan.
This man's life would make a great movie.
as usual, Hollywood would screw it up
Just off Highway 95 south off Jordan Valley OR is the Historical Marker directing you to His Grave. Great Tribute. Wow what a life of adventure
Very cool. Would love to visit his final resting place. He covered more miles than most of his lifetime!
I’ve stopped there. Much solitude. It is marked with a sign on the state highway
Driving past there tomorrow
There is a Oregon Historical Monument at the site across the road from the stage station/tavern/hotel. Lots of people (including me) have placed momentos on the monument in a touching tribute to Charboneau. I heard he was on his way to the gold strike in Helena MT.
Im a native of Calif. Auburn and Placer county are my home town. Ive spent many great days swimming the american river. My oldest son still lives there. Im in Grand Junction Co. Now. Thank you, really informative info.
That was one of the most amazing stories I have ever heard. He was involved in every important event in US history from his birth until the Civil war. He was a real tiger, no wonder considering his parents.
Our thoughts exactly
Joe Biden knew him well and taught him how to tap beaver.
Adventurous and for that time in history highly educated and obviously a brave man to boot. What a fantastic adventure his life was.
Very true! Thanks for sharing
I have visited his grave site twice at Inskip Stage Station, in Oregon. Once before I read a book about his life, and once after. Interesting man. Interesting life.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing your experience metaglypto
Great Lewis & Clark expedition ! Discovering lands French have been using for century
If only Napoleon realized what he sold away so cheap!
Oh man...what a life he lived. Thank you for posting.
He saw and did remarkable things. Thanks for commenting
Thank you for a great video ! As an avid history buff of both African and American early explorers. I grew up on the banks of the Mupfure (Umfuli) river amongst Africans who were just one generation from tribesmen where medicine, the wheel, gunpowder, glass, a compass, hygiene, irrigation or mosquito nets were unknown and where slavery was common. I spent many years riding around in the African veld with my 2 dogs near the town of Chegutu (formerly Hartley) & just a few miles from where the famous elephant hunter Henry Hartley used to set up camp and by accident discovered gold there. He befriended many African chiefs with some basic knowledge of medicine as did both David Livingstone and Lewis & Clarke. I have traveled the entire Lewis & Clarke route and rafted some of the Yellowstone..
I humbly suggest another topic for you to consider -
David Thompson 1770-1857 (86). Arrived in Churchill Manitoba, Hudson Bay aged 14 !! Nearby York Factory was one of the first fur-trading posts established by the HBC, built in 1684 & used for 270 yrs til 1954 . (see the York Factory Express for another fascinating story) Twice annually 1821-1846, men traveled the York Factory Express to Fort Vancouver WA and back.
Thompson traveled 56,000 miles across N America, mapping 1.9 million sq miles of N America. In 1799 he married Charlotte Small, a 13 yr old Métis daughter of Scottish fur trader & Cree mother. They had 13 children stayed married 57 years, the longest marriage known in 19th century Canada. Charlotte Small traveled 3½ times farther on these expeditions with Thompson and their children than did the American explorers Lewis and Clark. A terrific story in my view.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story!
Remarkable man, remarkable family.
Glad I learned of him. A life like that is worth learning of. Thank you!
Thanks for listening! His life is inspiring for sure!
What a great man respected by all walks of life god bless him
Excellent video,your work and knowledge is appreciated.Thank you!
Thank you N8 Drus.
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A life well lived, thanks.
Thanks for commenting Frank!
A marvellous to sit down so interesting and educational when the television pushes out absolute crap
Thanks John!
Really very interesting.
Man, you guys just keep knocking it out of the park! Great job again!
The fur trade has been a lifelong study for me & you put years & many documents all in one convenient and accurate place for me about 'Ol Pomp.
Only correction would be of pronunciation: Gros Ventres is pronounced "grow vaunt", which translates 'big bellies'; and Nez Perce is pronounced "nez purse" (means 'pierced noses' and, technically would be 'nay pursay', though no one does. Married to a Nez Perce for over 30 years, never heard her or her relatives say it that french way.)
They met Lewis & Clark on a Camas prarie outside of present day Pierce, Idaho. (That first meeting might be a future video for you. Great story, there.)
The Nez Perce didn't pierce their noses, but were camped there with some Flatheads who did. Probably where the error crept in.
The name they call themselves is Nee-Me-Poo, meaning "the people".
Have you ever noticed how many Indian nations, in their own tongue, call themselves "The People"? Many were very ethnocentric; I mean they viewed the world as made up of 2 groups: there's us (the people), and there's everybody else (those people).
Always wondered if the founding fathers borrowed that for beginning the Decaration of Independence. Thoughts?
Again, a superb video. Thank you.
Thanks for the added detail and the help with the pronunciation! You have unique insight that we appreciate you sharing with us. Thank you for sharing!
Wonderful summation of an all but unknown man.
Jacques de Noyon (1668-1745) a French Canadian explorer, coureur des bois.
He is the first known European to visit the Boundary Waters region west of Lake Superior. In 1688, he led an expedition into territory unknown to fur traders. He & his men reached Rainy Lake. After wintering on the Rainy River, they pushed on to Lake of the Woods in 1689. There some Assiniboines told Noyon of a route to Lake Winnipeg via the Red River.
His sister was the great-grandmother of Toussaint Charbonneau (1767-1843) a Canadian-born explorer, fur trapper, merchant & generally just a nasty swine.
Toussaint came down to Mandan from Winnipeg where I now live to purchase 15 yr old Sacagawea who had been captured from her Shoshone tribe & sold into slavery.
What you may not know is just how interesting this area was to the history of US & Canada. Three lakes approx 140 miles apart are the sources of 3 rivers that flow to 3 different oceans.
Lake Itasca near Bemidji MN - source of the Mississippi river - Gulf of Mexico.
Lake of the Woods near Kenora ON - Winnipeg River - Hudson Bay, Arctic Ocean.
Rainy Lake near International Falls ON - Pigeon River - Great lakes, Atlantic Ocean.
Amazing contribution! Thank you!
I really enjoy these
Thanks Kip!
I am always looking forward to watching your documentaries. I have lived in eastern Washington for most of my life and just now learning of the many men they did not mention in history class. Thanks again.
Thank you for watching!
He's buried in SE Oregon, he died trying to make to the Idaho goldfields, they need to make a movie about this man
We would watch that movie!
James Beckwourth is my favorite Mountain Men, You should do a Video on him, If you've one already I apologize. I've read most Bios I can find on these men and Beckwourth or Beckwhitt is heads above them all IMO.
The tribe (Gros Ventres - Big Bellys) is pronounced: "grow vaunt". Otherwise, a very interesting telling of this young man's life. Thanks.
I was thinking the exact thing!
Hell of a Man.
The illustration depicted as Jean Baptiste is virtually indistinguishable from the photograph of Jim Beckwourth.
I grew up near Charbonneau Park in Eastern Washington.
Very cool
Very good video.
Thank you for watching!
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Gracias no conocia la historia de este caballero.
Such interesting characters back then and such an interesting time and place to live. Life was tough, so I suppose they had to be hardy to survive.
A pity he died of pneumonia at such an age. Younger than me at the time of his death.
I wonder if the hard life he had led, contributed to his relatively early death.
An interesting story, I remember about his Mother from the Lewis and Clark journals. That expedition was a fascinating story in itself.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Steven. Jean Baptiste truly lived a unique life and there is much to be learned from his experience and the experience of others who lived during such a challenging time.
Average life expectancy, in early 1800s, was 30-40 years. And that's for average lives... Many in cities/farms. His life was far from average, start to finish.
His mother Sacajawea is a national hero.
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I owe all of your viewers an apology. I am the artist that created the depiction of Jean Baptiste Charbonneau featured throughout this video. My source for the illustration showed an image that I thought was Charbonneau but, in fact appears to be Jim Beckworth. I am in the process of correcting the error everywhere this image was published.
Nicely done. You already know of the pronunciation of the tribe.
This very exhilarating, and I hope it is true, but I read that the young Charbonneau boy went to St. Louis with Lewis as stated, but stayed there. What is the source of your information?
Thanks, I feel like a nobody now.
Lol! We’re proud of you Eric 👊
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I think the picture shown this video is actually a picture of James Beckwourth, not a picture of Jean Baptiste. Anyway, it seems like he lived an interesting, varied, and idyllic life for that time period.
The picture shown is a painting done by Jeff Byrd of Sacramento who is a descendant of Jean Baptiste Charbonneau.
It’s titled: Jean Baptiste Charbonneau-Guide
Source: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/california-pioneer-history-exemplified-in-art-competition?lang=eng
If you look on the Internet under Jean Baptiste Charbonneau, you will see pictures of him which look nothing like this painting. Check yourself.
It’s definitely Beckwourth.
Why the picture of jim beckwourth?
The charbonneau name is cool.
We think so too
Looks like a good role for Danny Trejo.
Time 3:10 "The two set sail on the Smyrna from St. Louis in December 1823" with a picture of 3-masted sailing ships and a steam ship with two masts.
I don't believe sailing ships of this sort were at St. Louis on the Mississippi River. Did the two perhaps set sail from New Orleans, Louisiana on a sailing ship named Smyrna or perhaps a riverboat in St. Louis named Smyrna?
The image that accompanies this video is of Jim Beckwourth, not Jean Charbonneau.
While they appear similar you are mistaken.
The image used in the thumbnail indeed is a depiction of Jean Baptiste: www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2016-02-04/california-pioneer-history-exemplified-in-art-competition-28596
Unless I'm dreaming he is buried in eastern Oregon at stage stop..a couple of miles west of hiway 95.
That sounds right! A few others have commented that he is buried off of a freeway. Thanks for sharing
@@LegendsoftheWest '95' is a modern highway but sure is not a freeway. It has been maybe 25 years since I was there..I guess there is something marking the side road. I remember the building being something like stone or concrete..for protection from the injuns.
looks like james beckwourth
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It is.
I think the Gros Ventres is pronounced Grow Vont
Gros Ventre/Grohvant. New Perce/ nay persay.
Thank you!
Gros Ventre is pronounced "grow von".
Bison tongue. Yum.
Moved to St. Louis . . . “ at Lewis Clark’s invitation.” Nice try, though.
Clark gave him the nickname "pomp".
gros ventres is pronounced groh-VAHNT
Shame folks of his ilk were replaced by Tucker Goebbels types.
Incomplete. Learn how to pronounce Native American tribes.