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Phil Jackson is a good coach. Warriors have 3-pointers. Jordan would be on the freethrow line atleast 20 times depending on the era. Warriors are not physically violent so I dont think they will try to hurt Jordan on hard fouls
@@Alicia_Tomoko_5xDraymond Green might hardfoul Jordan if he decides MJ is scoring too much.
@@Alicia_Tomoko_5xThere is a dirty player on the Warriors. Draymond Green. Jordan would average 40 without hard fouls. But Draymond
@@seriesx9508Draymond is a Michael Jordan fan. He won't hard-foul Jordan regardless of the era. Pippen on the other hand: Draymond stomp and kick
MJ is asking: what is a game 7 looks like in the finals? He doesn’t know what that is 😂😅
YOUNG MAN, you would have to have been there to see it in action. (You keep stopping to interject. Let them finish their statements, THEN react.) The 1996 Bulls were MONSTERS. That is something you can not get from a video. I am Chicago, born and raised. We dubbed the 1996 season as the "Revenge Tour" because they got knocked out by Orlando in 1995. Michael was on a mission and was NOT going to be denied! The Warriors would not know what had hit them.
You said Green and Rodman negate each other? Not really, because Rodman would OWN Green. It is too easy to get in Draymond's head. He probably would get him kicked out twice, like he did with Brikowski.
Jordan putting up a lot would be no problem because that is what he does. This league today, nobody can touch him. Not to mention that the front courts are SMALLER than the 1990s. He is going to the hole EVERY time. The Portland "Shrug Game" showed he could hit the three if he wanted to. Remember, in 1996, he shot 42 percent off of almost 300 attempts.
Anything you say is a negative, MJ will show you up.
Also, in the playoffs, MJ has averaged more than 40 points SIX different times.
You can say GSW, but listen to their COACH who PLAYED with them, young brotha. Remember, they beat the Bulls' season record and LOST. That is not happening with MJ. They could easily play defense today because not only being long, quick, and athletic, they had GREAT hands. They were stealing everything. **(On a side note, did you know that most of the starters had a fitness contest between them? They would also compare to see who had the best abs. Even Dennis Rodman heard about it and wanted to get in on it. I believe he was the one winning the most)
Man-to-man?? KUKOC would get KD. He can not stop him, but he is also 6'11" and quick. He would be enough to slow him down. That is why Kukoc is a Hall of Famer.
I believe no team in history is being that 96 Bulls team in a seven game series.
I was there. I live in Chicago. From 1991-1998. I saw all 6 championship titles.
@pointsur67 😂😂 you ain't lying. No team is beating them. Hell naw. Kukoc was a left handed killer on the court.
WORD!
Imagine If Pre Knee Injury Ron Harper Was With The Bulls. I Watched Ron Since College (Miami Of Ohio) 🤷🏿♂️. These Kids Don't Much...No Sense Of History On Any Topic, Let Alone Sports 😂!
Regarding other comments: no, Jordan isn't going to guard Steph Curry. Curry is a great 3-point shooter but he is a defensive liability in 2017. The question isn't "who can guard Steph Curry." The question is, "who can Curry guard?" No one
News flash… Curry is far more guardable than Jordan. Just saying… 🤷🏻♂️
The 96 Bulls win EASILY because not only could they score points but are more than capable of shutting down a team that scores most of their points with jump shots. People that have never watched the 96 Bulls team Play Defense have no idea how Great they were. You have to remember they won back to back to back Championships because how good of a defensive team they were. They suffocated teams with their defense! MJ, Scotty, Ron and Dennis were like unleashing 4 killer Dobermans out on teams! But if you've never seen them actually play then you wouldn't understand how great of a defensive team they were. That Warriors team was not even close as good on defense as the Bulls teams was. Michael Jordan alone with foul half their team out with the old rules and most definitely in today's rules.
Being as objective as possible, the Bulls would win in either era. Every Bulls starter was a better 1 on 1 defender than the Warriors starters and turned any mistake by the other team into instant offense. Plus with Rodman being quicker, a better rebounder, AND better than Draymond at head games, Draymond would play himself out of the series. KD would get his points, Clay would be nullified by the defensive pressure, and Steph would have to be nearly perfect every game to give the Warriors a fighting chance. Advantage Bulls.
Also, the reason a lot of us older fans are so firm in our opinions is because we've seen both eras in real-time and saw how the Bulls adapted to players with skillsets that we see in today's game. Hakeem, David Robinson, and Patrick Ewing were all bigs with very good range from mid-range, so adapting to a KD wouldn't be as much of a challenge as younger fans think. Shooters? They played against teams like Indiana with Reggie Miller & Chris Mullin on the floor together and while it was a hard fought series, they figured out how to win.
I guarantee you if the 96 Bulls palyed against the Warriors, you'd be forced to change your mind. The 96 Bulls would slaughter the Warriors today. If Michael Jordan was on the court, since no one is able to touch anyone Michael Jordan would score every time he has the ball. He'd probably put 50 to 60 points on the board.
Agreed MJ locking steph down but KD the only factor and he still wouldn’t be able to do enough because KD been exposed
@@blognationent1956 now I'm not trying to start any type of altercation, but I guarantee that Michael Jordan would dominate KD.
@@jefferycollyge3877 that's wat im saying reread my comment im saying KD wouldn't be able to do enough because he been exposed
@@blognationent1956 I guess you meant by the initial of his first and last name.
KD gets exposed during the NBA playoffs when defensive effort occurs
Kd don’t want no smoke with Scottie one on one. Kd gonna get his buckets, but ain’t nobody torching Scottie head to head.
I wouldn’t say ain’t nobody torching Scottie head to head when Scottie has no answer for Connie Hawkins, elgin Baylor, Doctor J, Bernard king, bird, iceman, melo, or Adrian dantley
KD would struggle more than them guys above against Scottie tho lacking in the post and heavily reliant on wrist carrying crossovers which will work sometimes like Kobe and grant hill were sometimes successful with that against pippen but much more is needed than that to torch him in a head to head matchup
Grant Hill entered the chat…
@@worldlfree yup. He entered in the middle of my comment. Been here ever since wondering what’s wrong with that man
@@beenizz5102 we don’t know that for a fact. He never played any of them besides bird and dantley
@@worldlfree so did his ankles. lol. Jk. Ok yeah grant used to give Scottie buckets. But he did that to Eveyone. Scottie did a decent job most times defending him. And kd isn’t nearly as aggrieved or versatile as grant because he almost solely looks to score and mostly on jumpers whereas grant was explosive and attacked the cup.
Ron Harper had like 4 seasons averaging over 20 pts before he came to the bulls. Tony was a play maker, also averaged close to 20 a few times after MJ left.
I think the bulls win in their era and warriors win in theirs…but bulls have a way better chance in winning in warriors era then warriors do winning in the bulls.
Given time to adjust to eras I think bulls got it. People don’t give tony and Harper enough credit. And Mj’s impact also gets lost too…lebron with a 50% jumper
Just an fyi. Look up the nba commissioner talking about the rules. The rules today were changed to make it easier for players like Steph to be great. Meaning that in reality, MJ would be much better today. The rules made the game easier… not being bias look it up.
The Bulls would put the clamps on the Warriors and who’s going clamp Jordan? The answer is no one!
Bulls vs Warriors is a difficult argument to describe. The '96 Bulls prioritize defense over scoring
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, n Harper would snatch the warriors heart..KD n Steph are easily overwhelmed when dealing with all star defenders..MJ n Pip would have shut them down..rattle them..I give the warriors 2 games max..MJ n Pip never played a game 7 in the finals.. nuff said
Rodman had a way to get in the head of his opponent... He was a monster!
Kukoc coming in the league was best known as a good shooter and a great passer.
Being a great passer was what he was known for.
And he could dunk from the FT line.
I was already thinking that before Vince said it. I do think Curry and Thompson are going to be far less effective if people are able to shove them around on the perimeter. I think KD is gonna be great regardless, but I do wonder if someone like him would get hurt, even though he's quite durable. It's down to eras, but also which team can adjust to the other era better. I do think the Bulls have the edge of adjusting because they just got the size.
I really think that the 96 Bulls would sweep the 2017 Warriors. We are forgetting about the full court press the Bulls would suffocate teams teams with. Curry would struggle for sure!
Jordan wasn't the only one that could score, kukoc was a beast in his own right too.
Just shows how soft the NBA is today, half these stars wouldn't be shit in 80s-90s
Kind of weird how he cut off Gilbert's opinion.. cause he says he gives the Warriors maybe 1 game against the Bulls. Also, teams were playing zone.. it was a lenient rule that was rarely called. Look up "K Jordan VS Zone Isolation 1-1 Defense" and you'll see alot of teams strategies vs jordan was a ton of zone defense.
I know KD is your favorite player, but KDs biggest weakness is his strength. If there is hand checking I can see KD being less efficient, and could be bullied by anyone on the bulls starting 5, and even more so for Curry and Klay. The strongest player on the Warriors is Draymond. KD would average around 25-27pts with hand checking, not 30, but without hand checking KD could get 30+. Delladova worked Curry in the finals, so I'm sure Harper and Jordan, two long quick defenders, meanwhile Delladova is pretty much a nobody compared to other elite defenders. One thing that confuses me is how no one mentions Jordan in the video. With or without hand checking Draymond or KD would be forceddd to guard Jordan because Jordan would give Klay 40 to 50 points a night on the Warriors. Jordan dropped back to back 50 point games on the Knicks who were a wayy more physical and strong team. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a one man show, and Jordan gives Klay and Draymond back to back 50+ points. Without handchecking, I honestly couldn't even imagine. The game is sometimes cringe to watch already with free lanes to the basket. KD doesn't even average 40 without hand checking. Jordan averaged 40 in the finals in his prime, so without hand checking it almost seems Ludacris for someone to average 50 in the finals, but its already Ludacris enough to average 40. People underestimate the greatness and dominance of Jordan. Yes, this man averaged 40 in the finals, but we really think guys like Klay and Draymond are stopping Jordan? I refuse to believe it. KD would be forced to play defense and that would tire him out as well.
Otherwise, the verdict I would say Bulls in 5-6 with hand checking, Bulls in 5-6 without handchecking. I believe it would be the same amount of games with or without hand checking. With hand checking the Warriors are not strong enough to overcome, but without hand checking, it would unlock a different Jordan and Pippin, and Jordan ultimately wouldn't allow it to go to game 7 either way and musture up 70 points on dunks, layups, mid ranges in a game 6, and a few 3's when necessary. Id say Jordan in his absolute prime would average 35-42 points on the Warriors with handchecking, but without handchecking Jordan isn't scoring under 40. It's hard to say, but I'd say he'd average 40-52 points. It would simply be another historic night for Jordan because the warriors have no one to guard Jordan. KD is not the same level a scorer as Jordan. We got Wilt, Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Bird, and KD could be in the top 6-8 range in scoring. But anyways, KD isn't as aggressive or physical as Jordan, meanwhile KD would have to face tougher defense than Jordan. KD would be the best player on the Warriors. Steph and Klay would be merely spectators to the flight of 23, they are non factors on defense. Rockets took the KD warriors to 7 games, switch Harden with Jordan, the rockets win 6 games. Now of course this is my opinion, but this goes beyond the causal takes with an actual analysis.
Kevin Durant is basically Larry Bird. People say Bird is better, but I don't know about that. Elite players get their points regardless of who guards them. That goes for KD, Bird, Stephen Curry, or Jordan.
KD wont average 40 against Bulls. He will score his usual 29 points. Volume shooting causes other issues
KD is a regular season performer and a joke during NBA playoffs. He gets locked up easily on defense on plsyoff teams
kd is not basically larry bird,not a better pure shooter not a better passer rebounder and especially not even close mentally,kd is a great weapon,larry is a great leader/weapon and no kd never led a team to a chip,so this comparison is assenine
1996-1998 Bulls regularly beat teams that stats say are better teams. That means 1996 Bulls have an advantage that stats dont detail
Young G the best way to understand how the bulls was so dominant over other teams is the fear they had from MJ go check out Michael Jordan best defender Ever video and the problem is if MJ gets hot or someone piss him off it’s nothing nobody can do to stop it
I don’t think it matters what era, the Bulls would dominate! Who’s gonna guard MJ? I mean, “come on”!
The Bulls beat the Lakers to win the Championship in 91!
The thing is, it's kinda 50/50 by today's rules and it's hugely in favor of Bulls by the 96's rules. Which kinda proves the point that the Bulls are the better team.
Let's not forget that KD couldn't lead his Thunder team to victory against the Heat. No one is arguing that the Heat team is better than those Bulls teams.
Golden State has no defense. MJ, Pippen & Kukoc would do whatever they'd like on the court....GS can score but defense wins Championships
96 bulls...they'll lock this MF warriors down...!
Unbiased take: 1996 Bulls sweep 2017 Warriors if you replace 1996 Jordan with 1990 Jordan. We know that 1986-1993 MJ had multiple playoff series averaging over 40 points. For 1996 we don't know
Double teams and zone defense nitpickings dont matter with superteams and borderline super teams. The forced man-to-man defense could cause early fatigue in Steph Curry who would be forced to chase down even a non-offensive player.
The defensive rules are not the easy solution you make it out to be. There are numerous things that would cause fatigue in a 1990s setting.
You have to use the "eye" test. Those that watched the 96 Bulls, live, know that no team could beat them in any series. Warriors struggled in the finals and got their weaknesses exploited.
And let's be very clear...Jordan never got tired. That's insulting to hear you say that. Don't you ever say he would get tired running around with Curry. He is the GOAT.
And Rodman was the league's leading rebounder for seven years in a row, a power forward that played like a center. And would irritate the F out of the big men.
Kukoc is always overlooked, but he is a playmaker and a great ballhandler himself coming off the bench (6-man award winner).
Pippen plays consistent, high level defense, even when his offense is struggling.
And the mere fact that the Warriors that went 73-9 but lost in the finals to LePunk means they were not good. Because it don't mean a thing without the ring.
Bulls sweep Warriors 4 games to 0
Jordan had teammates that would shut opponents down
What era are they playing in? In today's load management era, KD would probably show up for just the first 2 games then he goes home. KD dont wanna win that badly, he already got paid.
Chicago is definitely winning and the series would go 6 games the most. But I'll say 5. Curry, Klay and KD would have to guard too. The biggest question is who's guarding Jordan???? You can't guard him.
KD isnt double teamed much in the modern NBA because most players are spaced out waiting at the 3-point line. If KD cannot average 40 when the court is as spaced as it is now, KD won't average 40 in the 1990s or a playoff series.
Need I remind you, 1-on-1 defenders handle KD in the playoffs since other defenders are spaced at the 3-point line
Great review Ty
The only question none answer or talk about is a simple one.
How does todays rules not benefit the Bulls as much as the warriors?
Why would Jordan and Pippin say yea let’s play you can’t hand check us rules lol
Still would be a fantastic fun series to watch
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As much as a fan of old school ball as i am and be a man to think there is no one at MJ's level, i gotta go with your opinion that it all depends on which rules they play in.
Ticky tack touch and big man presence not allowed? It's just too hard to guard all perimeters.
You can put a hand on and put pressure on every position with body contact, good defenders can sway even the great scorers.
How MJ and Scottie contained Kukoc in the olymics to 6 points if i remember correctly is the prime example of how pressures can change the production outcome in a drastical way.
However; there is one thing that also plays crucial in this match up regadless of rules.
That's the mind play and mental toughness.MJ's team comes from the era of physicality and trash talk.
MJ and Rodman are the toughest men there could be and Scottie trained by MJ year after year to help MJ ger through all the competition in that era became no pushover either.
The mental edge should also play big for each team as their respective eras played way different.
The competitiveness, drive for win, hatred towards losing, willingness to throw and take trash talks to get the mental edge and the confidence in skill to back it all up is there for MJ and his crew who had utmost trust in him.
You just need right ingredient in play rules to go with it.
Thats why the 1996 Bulls have Rodman. Draymond Green will rack up the technical fouls, ejections, and suspensions.
Whoever guards Jordan, will be in foul trouble because MJ would repeatedly take it to the hole.
That same warriors team in 2018 was down 2-3 to the Rockets, and if wasn't for James Harden and company choking away a 4th quarter lead and missing almost 30 consecutive 3s. That juggernaut warriors team would've lost. So even that great team can be beaten. You think the greatest clutch basketball player of all time is going to let the warriors off the hook? I don't think so.
Bro. I think you have no idea how good pipen was as his prime as defender . I still thinking KD will be a problem for pipen but pipen will be a good match for any player..
You funny. You give these modern fools too much credit. You say you're neutral and not that biased. You are totally biased. LOL.
The 1996 Bulls are a team. Dennis Rodman would get Draymond Green and Kevin Durant suspended. Draymond Green is easiest for Rodman to provoke and bait into suspension
I believe the bulls will win because they're better constructed. I'm sorry but oftense does not win championships...
I mean they have the The best player of all time, the perfect 2nd option, the best rebounder of all time pound for pound, and the most rediculous role players I have ever seen with their 3rd option coming off the bench who was sixth man of the year, a point guard who should have been all defensive 2nd team, and the most accurate 3 point shooter that ever lived....
I'm sorry but I don't think a bunch of scorers are going to get past 3 of the top ten best defenders of all time + Ron Harper. The warriors scoring average is dropping 10-20 points per game in that series 😂
Not to mention they were running the most successful system in NBA history
Our minds don't change because we saw the bulls an every team after....golden state with kd was about to get clapped by Houston an was lucky Chris Paul got hurt...we saw what physical play does to kd against Boston we see steph an golden state lose any time they have any injuries or adversity...the miss one key player they dint even make the playoffs
Zone defense? Double teams rarely happen in today's NBA unless its Steph Curry. Current day Lebron is given a wide lane on every play to take it to the basket.
Lebron himself doesnt even double team if he has trouble guarding someone.
who would guard michael?
Curry is 6 ft 3, MJ is 6 ft 6. Its a mismatch. If youre saying Bulls 1996 to 2016 Warriors, Steve Kerr, point guard, who is around Curry height wouldve guarded him. 😂 Thats GSW Coach. Bulls won 68 games, 6 championships to the Warriors 4 or 5. Pippen wouldve assassinated Kevin Durant. You wouldve had to lived in 1991-1998 to know what real basketball was. 😂
Curry's scoring does not matter because Curry did not play defense in 2017. Whoever Curry guards will have their best performance ever
How is today's rule an advantage for y'all when Jordan avg over 30 ppg WITH THE HAND CHECKING AND HARD FOULS?!?!?! This is why critical thinking is important
Stop, please stop. Everyone always says who's going to stop the Warriors? The real question is, who is going to stop the Bulls. Can Steph stop Harper or can Steph guard Mike, no! Can Klay stop Mike or Scottie, no. Can KD run with Scottie for 48 minutes, no. Can he stop Kukoc? The actual matchup problem is the Warriors guarding the Bulls and Jordan is the X factor who will win the game for the Bulls. The '96 Bulls were Greyhounds on the loose. Defense and offense. Also the Bulls went 15-3 in the playoffs. The Warriors were 15-9. A great amalgamation of players does not mean you will automatically have the best team. The Bulls had the right people in all of the right positions.
Bulls win easily in any era. The Bulls was number 1 in offensive and defensive ratings that year... So the Bulls could score and lock you up. If you think KD would get 50 on the only team in NBA history to have 3 players first team all defense in Jordan, Pippen and Rodman...
On paper many people may go with the Warriors. Unfortunately most of those people never watched the three-peat Bulls with Rodman. As a person that has watched both teams, I will say it comes down to defense, turnovers and execution down the stretch. The Bulls were a better defensive team than that Warrior team even with KD. Curry is turnover prone and would not be able to defend Ron Harper or Jordan in the post. That is significant in a close game. Also, if Curry is not scoring 35 or more then that could be a problem. Curry would need to be hot in at least 4 out 7 games in order for the Warriors to win the series. KD may lead the Warriors in scoring for the series but he may not hit 46% of his shots. He will have to earn those points. Rodman would probably defend KD. Also, Tony Kuckoc off the bench would be a problem for the Warriors and may be the X-factor in the series. Kuckoc was similar to Luka but without the gaudy stats. Dude was 6'10 with three point range, a handle, a passer and an all-around skilled offensive talent. The Bulls could even insert him as a center if the Warriors go small. If the games are close I'd take the Bulls. There's another problem, the coach of the Warriors was on those three-peat teams. Another factor is that the rules in 96'97'98 were different than in the 2017. If we could time travel a team would we take the Warriors back or bring the Bulls forward? And if Kerr suits up for the Bulls, who's gonna coach the Warriors? If I coached the Warriors against that Bulls team I would RUN the entire game. You got to tire out the vets on the Bulls plus you're gonna need eazy buckets against a very stingy Bulls defense. Their defense was no joke.
Its a different era. Bulls prioritized defense over offense. Its not easy to detail that to those unaware.
He keeps talking about KD and Curry. If even they get their points, Bulls would lock down every other Warriors player. If KD and Curry score a combined 55 points, then 55 points is all Warriors would score in any game against the Bulls
On Paper, Bulls dont win in their own era. Even the 1995 or 1996 Magics seem to have an overall better roster than 1996 Bulls. Even filled with all those 3 point scorers.
The 1997 and 1998 Lakers are also superior to the Bulls on paper. Yet they got squashed by Utah Jazz that doesnt have the "stats on paper" advantage over them.
This means the qualities of the 1996 Bulls are not easily identified by paper stats
Bulls win in both eras.. look how dominant they played in their own era imagine playing in an era where it's easier.. So warriors lose in Bulls era cause it's too tough but win in their own cause it's easier? Makes no sense. Let's say both teams are equally skilled. Now implement the era in which they played. They can't beat us in our era when the game was more difficult and now we get to go to their era where it's so much easier to score and somehow that's an advantage for Golden State. Not a chance! 96 Bulls win in 5. Jordan averaging 50 pts a game. That Bulls team averaging 120-130 pts a game
96 bulls for sure.. how the warriors win if they don't have a coach?😂
Jordan wouldn’t have to guard Curry every position with the Bulls being able to guard and switch everything quickly. I give that lineup Kerr laid out with Kukoc, Pippen, Jordan, Harper, and Rodman a shot against any team today.
Ummm....96 Bulls were the #1 offense and #1 defensive team in the league...they could play offense too 🙄
The Bulls never double teamed anyone anyway 🤷🏿♂️
Kevin Durant is not the playoff performer you believe he is. Prime KD gets locked down 1-on-1 during playoffs and at times is less efficient than Kobe. However, you can make that argument about Scottie Pippen as well.
Given KD's track record, he would be 43% field goals vs Bulls in a playoff series. Poor playoff performance booted KD from his own vs Lebron debate
Man this guy is really underestimating pippen isnt he. Kd isnt putting up anywhere near 50 against pip. Cmon. And rodman is vastly superior to green so no their not gonna cancel each other out. Rodman is gonna b setting rebounding records with all the 3s gs is gonna b chucking. Defense wins championships and the bulls have the clear advantage. They dont need to shut em down they just need to wear em down. The bulls would win no matter the rules. There would likely b a period of adjustment if they played with todays rules but even still they could adapt. Cuz honestly they probably wouldn't leave the gym until they did.
The era makes all the difference my friend, as someone whos seen both eras, Warriors wouldn't stand a chance. Michael and the Bulls would change/tailor their game to the modern era. Whenever Jordan had setbacks, he always came back stronger. You see that when he started the turn around jumpers. Theres a reason Curry and the Warriors couldn't win back to back Championships and thats playing in TODAYS game. The Bulls won 3 Championships in a row TWICE!!! You dont do that by being ok..
p.s. DONT underestimate how much MORE Jordan would score in todays game. Be greatful hes too old!!
If you ask me, under 1990s rules, Steph Curry is injured in Game 2. Curry with his injury then has to stick man-to-man with a player he believes doesnt deserve to be chased and guarded, worsening his injuries. Then Rodman accidentally roundhouse kicks Curry.
Under 2017 rules, Rodman injures Curry anyway. Because Rodman. Under 2023 rules, KD quits and makes up a fake injury.
Nobody could beat the Bulls except for Larry Bird and the Celtics.
Dawg. You never watched the Jordan "one of the best defenders ever video" then you would understand..
I reacted to that vid a couple days ago here the link - ruclips.net/video/2wnhAQGtbRA/видео.html
@@queztheplug : my man...
You mean....stuck....like YOU thinking the warriors have a chance. lol. some people wont hear FACTS. LOL.
Listen, I actually love the way you talk about these highlights and videos and things keep it up you’re doing an awesome job. The one thing I wanna say about this particular video with the bulls versus Golden State. I know that you are talking about if they it depends on which era OK well if we automatically shoveled Golden State back to, the 80s playing the bulls OK you have to realize those exact same players starting out from the rookie year aren’t gonna have the same benefits that they have today OK so they’re not gonna be as good as they are today if that makes any sense. And the same thing goes the other way around if, the bulls came up and played in today’s era you have to realize that all of those players OK starting from the rookie year up until today are going to be taking care of their bodies and being in better shape and you’re going to have all of the advantages of today’s technology that comes with it see you back then when you came and played you just everybody depended on your natural ability. OK you were either born gifted or you weren’t in that carried you through until the bulls got sick and tired for example, I’m getting beat up by Detroit Pistons so they all started a workout program with the bulls after like their second or third loss. But it took that because they were sick and tired of getting beat up. Jordan in particular went off his natural ability. Tilian realize he needed to be stronger and bigger. OK now had he grew up with LeBron James for example he would’ve been playing at a much earlier age OK like LeBron OK instead of playing basketball starting basketball, his junior year in high school K and he would’ve had all of the advantages, LeBron James hat and probably would’ve started working out because you know what everybody in today’s league they work out to stay in the shade everybody’s build everybody’s huge everybody’s this and that. But back then you just went off your natural ability and Jordan hit the natural ability jackpot. If I’m being honest, he had the perfect body and the perfect agility now imagine if he had today’s technology to carry him through all those years, imagine how great he would’ve been then that’s why I’m saying, if you just take the balls and bring them in today’s game in my opinion they could definitely hold her way with Golden State OK and the same thing goes for back then is good as Golden State is if they played back then with the rules in the way teams did things back then you’re not gonna have the same Golden State team no matter who’s on the team OK because those guys go to the gym I can tell you when I was in high school but nobody worked out they went off their natural ability. They thought that playing the game itself was their work out which it was but players today work out at least two or three times a day and have different programs and we know so much more now that we didn’t know back then hopefully you get my Jess that’s why I’m saying if you if you go by the way, they did things back then I think the bulls win if you bring the bulls up today and go by Golden State rules to where they have all of the technology of today’s rules then I still think the bulls win either way now in today’s royal think they have a way better shot at beating the balls but back then no they wouldn’t have because most players played off their natural ability and most of the players today are only good because they’ve been working out since they were kids basically and practicing basically parents are more involved in today’s game to where they travel with kids take them here and there you didn’t have all that back there. Well you did but you had to be like the best in your state pretty much in order to go to a certain camp for this year that and you had to have money, a lot of players never made it, just because they were broke today. There’s ways to get around that but hopefully you understand what I’m saying. Keep up the good work you’re doing a great job.
Pippen defense was as good as Jordan. Pippen was as much as a lockdown defender as Jordan. If Pippen guards Klay, it will be the same as Jordan guarding Klay.
The Seattle Supersonics is close to the Warriors style of play and the bulls got them in 6 games. They had a lit of sharpshooters and athleticism...and probably better defense than the warriors. They had a 6'10" three point shooting Versatile and athletic guy in Detlef...and Sam Perkins spread the floor too. Those guys basically do what Durant does and the bulls defense coutered them easily... between scottie , kukoc and dennis. Ron was "The Mitten" and MJ is that DAWG. JORDAN PIPPEN RODMAN and Ron would have had something for the Warriors. It would be a crazy series. But I think the bulls win. Current Durant and current Steph with the 2017 warriors would MAYBE edge the bulls out💯
KUKOC is the X factor bc he could drop 30 on any given night...and FAST. PLUS he was versatile as hell. It was almost like Luka coming off the bench back then .
If it were 90's rules? The warriors would struggle to get 1. They just dont have the lineup for a 90's era team. With 90's rules the bulls would rough them up a lot more than people realize. Todays rules? I think they would win 2 in a 7 game series. I think people forget how suffocating the bulls d was with jordan, pippen, rodman and harper. 3 of those guys were top 5 defenders in the league almost every year they played.
The whole jordan on the other teams best offensive player then switched to the other teams best defender was status quo his entire career. Pippen wouldn't shut down KD, but he would make his life a living hell. Especially with 90's rules. Defense wins championships.
Another thing i think people dont fully realize is Kukoc would be the face of a team in todays nba. He legit was that good, especially on offense. Guy wasnt even a starter for the bulls in 96.
Ive noticed every generation seems to think the generations before were slower, weaker, less talented less intelligent etc etc.... its simply not true. IMO the softer rules of today allow players to be less talented yet still succeed. Thats not the players of either generations fault. But one generation had to find solutions to the problems the tougher rules created. One generation doesn't. You sharpen a knife with a wetstone, not warm butter 🤷
You keep saying that they have to guard KD and Stephen Curry. I have one question for you, who in that GS team is going to guard M.J, because if KD is dropping 50 on Pippen Jordan is dropping 100 on Curry or Klay Thompson. What about that?
HAha everyone is dropping 50 on Curry. Curry doesnt play defense. Well, not the 2017 version of Curry
@Queztheplug
You @5:25: "Aint nobody ever locked down KD 1v1"
That's true, but let's also not pretend that he's ever faced a staunch defensive team like that Bulls team either. Especially if they're playing under the old rules. Because if that were the case, the KD-Warriors would be in SERIOUS trouble.
Even with KD, the Warriors STRUGGLED MIGHTILY to beat CP3 and Harden's Rockets in 7-games! They ONLY won that series because CP3 suffered his annual playoff hamstring injury 😂
Hell, in that 2022 BOS vs BKLYN series, the C's played about as close to 90s style, physical defense on KD as the rules would allow, and it took him TOTALLY out of his game, forcing him into 38% shooting! 🤣
KD has a track record of STRUGGLING against solid defenders who can/will get a bit physical with him.
Case in point: Tony Allen.
He's only 6'4, but when he was in MEM, he REGULARLY forced KD into 40-42% shooting in those series vs OKC. Now, just imagine what one of the GREATEST perimeter defenders EVER, in Scottie Pippen, would do to him?!!
In Scottie you have a guy who stands 6'8, has a 7-2 wing span, terrific overall strength, and has the speed and lateral quickness of a guard!
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the RULES of this era is what's GREATLY enhanced the offensive #s of many of the guys, that your generation fawns over (including KD).
It's just a shame that many in your generation STILL haven't figured this out yet...
He needs to look into KD's track record. Particularly in playoffs when a good defender is put on him and KD gets inefficient
Change is good I don’t know who would be better
Draymond wouldn’t be a factor. Curry, Clay, and KD are the only ones to worry about.
That 3rd option might Gaurd th goat lol
Harper would keep Klay at bay...
And as far as Steph is concerned MJ used 2 drink beers and smoke cigars before playoff games and still drop 30 to 40 plus defend the 1stvor 2nd option. And no zone means you have 2 guard Jordan 1 on 1 also
@@leonardjackson6210steph in 2017 didnt play defense.
@@littletiffany9089 Your point is what exactly
KD got exposed when he got beaten by the Celtics!!! The Bulls will daimantle them in 4 game sweep! Remember Orlando had Shaq and got sweep 4-0 !
Bulls would win in 5 , it is probably a sweep but imma give em one with either KD or Curry having one monster night. But both of em in the same game? Not happening. One of them gets locked down by the G.O.A.T. or by Pip. Rodman would expose Draymond at the boards easily and possibly get Green suspended with the trash talk. Finally, MJ would score way too easy if they are playing with today's rules and no defensive hand checks 😂 MJ would average 45 pts if Curry or Klay have the monumental task of trying to guard him. 😂😂😂
Jordan, pippen, rodmen, harper could easily lock down steph and clay, kd. Draymond can defend the bulls by himself
It’s not a wash between Draymond and Dennis. Dennis will take away any second chance points and destroy the pick and roll. The scoring for the warriors ain’t gonna be crazy because the pick and roll action is eliminated. Draymond will not be able to focus because dennis is not a troll… he’s Hannibal Lecter. Pippen with more space is 25 per game. Kukoc is 20 off the bench. How can you beat Chicago with players who cannot gaurd them. They can guard the post at all.
If there is any team that can play defense against the Warriors, its the 1996 Bulls. Dennis Rodman would probably do a well-timed flagrant foul on the right player
Kukoc was a bad man in Europe. Played point guard. Nickname. The Waiter. Felt bad for him in 92.He was my second favorite on the team.
"The five-time European Player of the Year won gold at the 1990 FIBA World Championships when he was named MVP, two gold medals in the European Championships, and was a three-time EuroLeague MVP. All of that to go along with the 1992 title in the Italian League. 3 rings with the Bulls
If we're talking warriors vs bulls I personally think this one comes down to which era we're playing in because the bulls were actual a good team not every player was the best unlike the warriors the bulls were not really a super team its just that every player played a specific role which they did do very well but individually they were ok not great but ok because you take Jordan out the picture and they barely made the finals let alone win one now granted the warriors have yet to play a player like Jordan so I think it'll be a very close game but I'm probably saying warriors now if we say old rules then yeah I'ma go with the bulls. It's a lot easier to confidently say Jordans is the goat but I'm not as rock solid about the bulls as I am about Jordan
All the players on the warriors was scorer's 96 bull's was defense and offense everybody on Chicago was 1st and 2nd team defense then the warriors don't have no one to stop Jordan
Jordan needs to be guarded too if you think kd getting 50... what do you think Jordan getting?
Warriors vs Bulls is a challenging debate because Bulls on Paper dont win championships in their own era even though they did. Bulls are a pure defensive team.
Thats less fancy than the Shaq Kobe Lakers that have multiple scorers. We know 1996 Bulls beat 2001 Lakers but explaining how is not easy. Lakers seem to have a better roster.
You have no idea at all. Who in the blue hell would get close to competing with GOAT when he is on offense. Warriors would be praying Bulls don't shoot at all.
I'm definitely objective! Bro I rock with you and the channel.. I'm a NC native big UNC fan so I been following MJ.. the Bulls D is wayyyy too tough.. pippen would clamp down along with the other hall of Fame players stopping most of the team with the triangle 📐.. bulls 4-2.. MJ as usual tipa the ⚖️
Jordan would score 50 per game v the warriors.
Chicago lines up defensively gs can't say the same
Kd Warriors not beating the 72-10 bulls in a 7 game series.
I’ll say this without being biased and I’m letting em off easy. The D nowadays is non existent whether as in 96 was off the hook. That team vs 2020s, Mj alone was averaging 40+ in the 90s he’d double that without help. The bulls have the depth to last longer in any era. Era is almost nonexistent if you think about it. Warriors are good but they didn’t necessarily have the team chemistry compared to the bulls. Too each their own bulls take is 4-3
Didn’t the Warriors lose 2 games to the damn Clippers . Come on man
swept
i rather see 2001 lakers vs 96 bulls.
Did you just say m.j. would get tired from guarding steph and scoring a lot. Young buck, jordan, did that his entire career, without sleeping, I might add. He doesn't tire out. You're thinking of lebum. Man to man is not what you've been told. You couldn't double team a player.without the ball and if the player hasn't started dribbling, but those were rarely enforced. How many times watching m.j. highlights have you seen him double and triple teamed all over the floor. Way more than anyone nowadays. Also players played zone essentially because they played 5ft of their man if they didn't have the ball. That's basically zone coverage.
Jordan goes for 70
Just one thing bro, please let every statement finish before you interject. Coz most of the time the one you're looking for will be said and quashes your opinion. Hear their context first, then comment. Other than that it's all good and really appreciate the video.
Also, when you do that, your opinion sounds defensive too.
What is Jordan was on LeBron James‘s workout program for example, instead of just going off of this natural ability because Jordan didn’t start working out and lifting weights and watching Woody Sara, any of that he drank he smoked he did all kinds of thing that are bad for your body. And still bodied on a nightly basis. All of those health risks were known back and like they are today that’s why I say if Jordan was put into basketball at age 5 or six and never stopped like LeBron James, for example, and did nothing but practice in know the game of basketball OK instead of starting his junior year in high school imagine how much greater he would’ve been. That’s why I said if you played in today’s era, in my opinion, Jordan, as well as the rest of the bulls team, they would’ve all been a hell of a lot better athlete and I guarantee they would beat the Golden State. If it was played in today’s era if they were granted the same rules as golden state and were able to have the same advantages have access to the same technology. Yeah, they’re gonna be just as good if not better than Golden State. That’s why I said they win either way because if you took all of that away from Golden State OK with all of the advantages of the 90s you’re not even gonna be dealing with the same team I guarantee you some of those players probably won’t even be on that team. Because back then basketball players in college and all the way up to the NBA and then high school the only thing we did was party and drink and smoke and you relied off your natural ability. You need to watch Charles Barkley’s interview and literally the man never practiced until he got so big he was actually forced to practice in order to lose some weight. But here’s the thing he was still better even when he was overweight, he was still better than 90% of the players he played against at that time.
Golden State would loose in any era you don't know basketball .
You don’t know basketball when an nba hall of famer literally said that lol
@@queztheplugif you look only at stats, Bulls would not win any championships 1996-1998. There is a dominant Shaq and Penny Hardaway Magics team with multiple scorers and 3-point scorers. Bulls use Jordan as the main scorer, yet Bulls swept the Orlando Magics easily.
There is also the 1997/1998 Lakers team which is arguably the best all around team of the decade. Shaq scores alot, plus there is Nick Van Axe, Eddie Jones, a Lakers team complete with 3-point shooters. 5 different 3-point shooters, and 2 above 50% 3 point shooting.
Despite how advanced that Lakers team is, they got swept by the Utah Jazz. Utah does not have all those ultra-stats players, yet they beat 1998 Lakers.
Then Bulls beat Utah Jazz despite stats saying Bulls have the worse all around roster. Thats why pointing out the "stats" of Golden State players means little
Bro Jordan chased Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, John Starks, etc and all of them ran around just as much as Steph Curry. Jordan would be guarding Clay Thompson and Ron Harper would be the one chasing Steph or they'd switch up from time to time because of the Bulls versatility on defense. As far as the scoring is concerned Jordan was able to score as much as he needed to to win and you're out of your mind if you think the Warriors would score 120 on the 96 Bulls!! Finally I live in Oklahoma City and I'm a big KD fan but KD isn't scoring 50 on Scottie Pippen!! Durant's going to get his but ain't no way he's putting up 50 on Pippen. What you don't understand is that 96 Bulls team didn't double team Shaq so why do you think they'd double Durant or anyone else!! Bro us Jordan fans actually watched both teams in real time live not just the current Warriors live not clips of highlights from the 96 Bulls. That's why our opinion doesn't change!!! We watch them both