As someone from Belgium, it is so nice to see so many people around the world enjoying these stories. We're very proud of them. Love these Tintin videos you do on this channel :)
Thank you, that means a lot! The love for Tintin is truly global, and over the course of making my videos I've got a sense of just how many people hold this series of books so close to their heart! I'm thrilled to be a small part of this online! 😁
Excellent video- love hearing you talk about Tintin. I'm impressed at how well Herge's art holds up in black and white. The addition of all the background detail does, to my eye, change the impact of the whole comic though. It brings the feel of a real lived in world to a much higher level and makes me invest myself more in each scene. In my opinion, anytime you have more thoughts about Tintin- go ahead and make a video!
Thank you! I doubt I'll ever be able to get away from Tintin, no matter what else I do 😁 I'm really glad you enjoy these videos! Discovering that Tintin had earlier, black and white versions was a mind blowing thing for me (It wasn't that long ago!) and excavating these changes and adjustments to things so deeply entrenched in my mind from childhood has been quite a wonderful process. To know that sharing what I see continues that process brings the purest satisfaction! I completely agree with you - Herge's older stuff holds up pretty well, and I really enjoy the black and white. But just like you, I love the level of background detail and craftsmanship that came into the later adventures (and was inserted into the earlier ones). They add literal depth, putting me in that time and place, and I cannot imagine the series without them!
The redrawing of the figures was, interestingly, restricted to the first few pages, after which Herge decided he could just go with the original drawings for the colorisation, embellishing only the backgrounds. You can see the stark difference in the modern edition where Tintin suddenly appears shorter, with pointy shoes and a more rounded head for the rest of the story. And about the large redrawn rickshaw panel - it was all Herge's work, not his assistants yet. :) And now we wait another lifetime for your next Tintin video. :P
Thank you for that wonderful scholarship! In another comment here, we were just discussing how the styles seem to switch and here you've explained it clear as day! Also good to know that lovely market panel was all Herge! And haha yes, sorry about the gap between Tintin videos, but there are just so many comics to talk about and celebrate! Also, I have a very limited number of facsimiles left, so I need to space them out to last the rest of this channel's life! 🤣
This is something that had puzzled me a lot when I first read the blue lotus. It was such a drastic shift in appearance from the tintin we saw in the redrawn Cigars of the Pharaoh then to this sets of panels of Blue Lotus.
I think I recall from somewhere that the album was first redrawn rather early on while Herge's style was still similar, and the first pages in modern prints are the result of a second redraw that was abandoned.
Ah, the Tintin comparison saga continues! I don't really have much to say here other than again noting for myself that I need to pick up some Tintin comics and do some reading. I've not read any Tintin since I was a small child (if I remember correctly) - and I might be misremembering, maybe I only watched the animated TV series... in which case I haven't read any Tintin at all! Great stuff as always, well done sir!
Reading Tintin is so different from most other reading for me, because as a child I read each adventure over and over again. In fact, most of the things I read as a child I read over and over again because I wasn't getting new books every week, but some of them couldn't hold up to the intense scrutiny. The Tintin books could, however, and they rewarded re-reading and provided a deep satisfaction of familiarity, be it with the world, characters, or the separate plots of the books. That is why finding out that the earliest ones originally looked very different from what I know and loved was such a mind blowing discovery for me, and why I really enjoy making these little comparisons. I think it would be great to know what you think of Tintin as an adult, unfettered perhaps by the amount of nostalgia I invariably am! 😁
Thank for sharing this. I found a documentary on Tintin where I saw the orginal drawings. There is nothing beautiful about orginal, editing is what makes things beautiful.
Interesting comparison for someone like me who didn’t read the b&w early versions of Tintin. Around 6:50, about the famous scene in the street. If i’m not mistaken Hergé got help from his long time friend Tchang for some details about Chinese calligraphy for the coloured edition. As you may know when Hergé got his studios and started to «restore/update» his albums he got a lot of help from his collaborators. To name a few Bob de Moor and Edgar P.Jacobs. For example de Moor went to England to make sketches for the new «Black Island» album to update some scenes. De Moor was probably the artist that was able to «copy» perfectly the style of Hergé, so it was really easy for Hergé to take de Moor sketches and make the final drawings with his own style. De Moor was also doing technical drawings like cars, buildings, etc ( he draw the plane of «Flight 714»). Jacobs was the father of the series «Blake and Mortimer» and he helped Hergé with colours for the Tintin albums. For instance he helped a lot for the album «King Ottokar’s Sceptre» (in a ballroom scene Jacob and Hergé make a cameo).
Thanks for this great comment! I've been finding out more and more as the years go by - as a child, I knew only the later, colour versions of every adventure, and thought it was one man doing everything! I do mention Jacobs and Bob De Moor a little bit in other videos of mine, and take a close look at two later Black Island versions as well, along with videos on America, and Cigars of the Pharaoh. Another commenter here mentioned that in The Blue Lotus all of the redrawing was by Herge himself though; his associates started helping him after 1946. And another friend of mine has actually illuminated me that it was Roger Leloup, not Bob Demoor who did the plane in Flight 714, alongside other planes and vehicles throughout. Would you be able to confirm that?
@@ftloc I was right to assume that you knew a lot about Hergé ;-) Yes the studio itself has an interesting story because when you think of it Hergé was a sort of Walt Disney, creating his characters, this empire around Tintin. I confirm, after a little bit of research, that Roger Leloup drew the plane of «flight 714». Actually Leloup was known as "the aeronautical expert in the Studios". Getting back to De Moor he took the position of assistant when Jacobs left to work on his own series. Bob de Moor et la méthode de travail de Hergé aux Studios (copy/paste this title on RUclips) In this video of Bob de Moor and Hergé's working method at the Studios you will see the way drawings where made. Basically it shows De Moor getting rough sketches from Hergé. De Moor refines the drawings by adding precisions and details in the surroundings (like specific plants he had in photos). Then the pencils drawings gets back to Hergé who will put it’s final touch by inking them. (I know that Hergé had problems with his hands at one point. Following this fact, I cannot confirm whether De Moor would have done the final inking himself on some pages). It’s the sort of details that could be in a biography. A few years back a very good one was published and a detail in the content shocked a few fans because it was said that Hergé didn’t like children! For Jacobs it’s interesting to note that, unlike Hergé, he gave the ok to continue «Blake & Mortimer» after his death. I think there is quite a few albums published now. The editor alternates with two duets of authors (a designer and a screenwriter), it seems to work because albums are published. Of course, although the drawings are in the style of Jacobs, there is a slight difference in the rendering. (Too bad DeMoor couldn’t have drawn the last album of Hergé (Alph’art) because if there was an artist to do it it was him). Cheers!
I absolutely love your Tintin videos, you share my passion! Really happy I found your channel yesterday, keep up the great work and greetings from Ireland
Another great Tintin vid and very informative as usual. Love the splash panels in the original. I remember thinking as a boy that id read all the Tintin books, as here in the UK you only had 16 books on the back cover in the late 70s. Imagine my surprise when this was released in the early 80s in the UK and it was originally published before anything I had already read. Mind was blown and I loved it.
Thank you! And I had a very similar experience - no back cover of any of the albums I read featured the Blue Lotus and I had no idea it existed, because Methuen hadn't brought it out in English. Then one day I saw a copy, thought it was new, and realized it was older! I talk a little bit about those back covers and trying to navigate that pre-internet in my 'Tintin in the East' video, and I may still have one album with just the 16/17 books you mention! 😁
@@ftloc Good to hear of similar tales. I remember I couldn't wait to get it home to read after requesting it at my local library. Like Asterix, I would love someone to bring new Tintin stories out but they would have to keep him in that era. Thanks again for the vid, will check the other one out.
This one was redrawn far less than some of the others. I have videos on America and Black Island as well, and the latter in particular is quite different! Check those out if interested
I just got the black and white version of the blue lotus yesterday. Thanks to your reviews making us aware of these editions. Now hoping to find the other black and white editions. They are being tough to find though
Always love watching your takes on the Tintin comics! It's really fascinating to see Herge's evolution as an artist and storyteller. He gets so much better at setting the atmosphere of the locations in the background details, and even his use of panel structure itself gets noticeably better (Picaros being the perfect example, where the camera angles are practically like a live action film). I'm curious about whether you've read the Quick and Flupke comics. I remember seeing a few copies of them in a bookstore in Mumbai about a decade ago but haven't seen them anywhere since. As someone who has ran out of Tintin books to read, they seem like a good substitute for that void lol.
Thank you! And I absolutely agree with you on how masterfully Herge's style matures (and how quickly!) over the years, and I remember being very confused in my childhood as to how the person who drew Picaros was the same person who drew America, and I was only looking at the redrawn editions! There's also a 'modularity' to the adventures that I think comes from their varying forms of serialization (some by the page, some by the row or dual rows of panels) that I think is wholly unique. Just a few weeks ago I got my very first Quick and Flupke book, a gift from a viewer (as documented in my recent mail-time livestream) but I have not yet cracked it open. I remember reading one Jo Zette and Jocko book in my childhood but other than that it's just been returns to the Tintin well for my Herge fix! 😁
@@ftloc Yeah I noticed that too as I got older. Even the pacing improved a lot. Early adventures had Tintin jumping from one sticky situation to another so that each segment of the story seemed "exciting" to readers when serialized but he gradually got more comfortable with letting them breathe in calmer moments. There's just so much to talk about when it comes to analysing these comics.
Somehow I find the early versions of Tintin adventures so alluring and lovely. I believe there are French editions that allows the reader to compare both versions. Can you confirm if this early version was published in landscape format? It’s clear that Hergé and his studio heavily modified the initial layout, sometimes more than once.
I agree with you on the charm of the earlier, looser style, but the redrawn versions, being what I grew up with and re-read hundreds of times, are too firmly etched into my brain! I believe that the original serialization was in two page segments, but the redrawn versions and later stories were definitely serialized ALSO in landscape format - often a single row running as a daily strip. I've seen several such newspaper printings myself and I know there are landscape format editions of books like The Seven Crystal Balls and Prisoners of the Sun, even in English!
This is pretty neat seeing all the changes. I really like the art on the Casterman cover. I think I prefer the background on the redrawn edition, with the black dragon on the red background, but I like the way Tintin and the vase look in the original with more detail, shading, and a different design on the vase.
I love it! Thank you. Will you be continuing these comparisons on the other Tintin books? (I've seen the Tintin in America, The black island and the Cigars of the Pharaoh) :). Big fan as always
There aren't that many more, at least in English, but I could definitely continue this series with one of the smaller French editions I show in another video. I just need to get my technical skills levelled up to shoot and edit between a tight zoom and a wider shot 😝
Great review with attention to detail. One small request is to review 'Meanwhile: Pick Any Path. 3,856 Story Possibilities' by Jason Shiga for its multiending concept and for making the reader actually make decisions for the characters somewhat like a computer game.
A great video, as always :) An interesting observation I had from my childhood days. In the redrawn version there are 2 very different art styles. When tintin is in india there is a certain style, but once he comes to China, the style changes, more like the old versions of tintin. But the large market place picture in China reverts from the "China" style to the "India" style. :)
Thank you so much! And yes, this book confused the heck out of me when I was young! I couldn't figure out when it was set, when it was created and why the style varied so much! 😁 I think what you have noted is absolutely correct - there must have been some pages Herge and his assistants touched more than others, and you can see that most in the India sections!
When I was around 10 years old the school library had Tintin books. I picked Blue Lotus as the first one to read. It became my favorite. I don't know why I picked it first.
Yay!! I always love these Tintin comparison videos. :) I got my first Tintin B&W Facsimile about a month ago (Cigars of the Pharaoh), and I’m hoping to eventually collect all nine!! That’ll be quite the adventure 😄 In my search, I also found that Éditions Moulinsart is currently colourizing - and for the first time publishing - the original versions of Land of the Soviets - Crab with the Gold Claws! It appears they published the colourized version of Soviets back in 2017 (though a rather thorough search for an English language version has led me to believe it was printed exclusively in French) and while I’ve seen references to a colourized Tintin in the Congo in 2019, it appears to me that it may have only been published in French, in lithograph form. I found this to be really fascinating, but was absolutely chuffed when I found that the colourized version of Tintin in America had just recently been published, and have since been able to get my hands on it! As a fellow Tintin enthusiast/collector, I was curious to hear your thoughts on all this, and whether you had heard of this as well, and or were considering making a video about it. Cheers! 😁
Thanks so much, and glad you enjoyed the video! I heard about those Moulinsart editions in general and the Tintin in America volume in particular, but I have no idea how to get my hands on a copy! The Collectors Editon of Congo, brought out by Casterman, is a colour edition and I think the only one available these days (I could be wrong!) Soviets I have never seen in colour form at all, interesting to know there is one in French! I think whenever I do another Tintin edition comparison, I may have to go to one of the tiny French copies I have - I believe I'm now out of full-size facsimiles (other than Congo, I suppose). Cheers!
@@ftloc They have the English copy of the colour version of Tintin in America on the official North American site for Tintin. It's interesting as they have three different covers. I could send you a copy if you want.
@@ftloc Whoops! I replied to this yesterday, but apparently it didn’t go through. Oh RUclips 😅 In any case, I was able to find the new colourized version of Tintin in America on The Tintin Shop UK’s website, which I’ll link here 😊 (This is where I got my copy): thetintinshop.uk.com/shop/tintin-in-america-newly-colourised-1932-edition As for Land of the Soviets, I was delighted to see the Tintin Shop also stocked a reprint of the 2017 French colourized version! Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure there is no English version, though if someone found one, I’d be absolutely thrilled to know! Nonetheless, I’ll link the French version as well: thetintinshop.uk.com/shop/les-aventures-de-tintin-reporter-chez-les-soviets-limited-coloured-edition-copy Finally, it took me a bit of digging to find the colourized Tintin in the Congo lithograph, but here it is! www.bdaddik.com/en/comics-collectible-portfolios/3869-lithographs-box-moulinsart-tintin-in-congo-colorized-23548-2019-2354800000004.html It’s worth noting that unlike the Tintin Shop, I’ve never bought from this site before, so unfortunately I can’t vouch for the product’s authenticity. However, I have seen other copies of this circulating around online, so I think it’s likely legit. I find it quite fascinating that when colourizing the original artwork of Tintin in the Congo, Moulinsart chose to publish it exclusively in lithograph form. I wonder if it had to do with their deal with Casterman… 🧐 Either way, just thought I’d share this cool bit of information I found! Hope this helps! P.S. Personally, I’d love to see a future comparison video using the miniature French facsimiles - especially The Broken Ear, King Ottokar’s Sceptre, or Crab with the Golden Claws!! Looking forward to future videos!! 😁
@@liamblack2009 I have it (Tintin in America (new coloured version)) digitally only for ₹530. And I know they're recently colouring the original versions of the first nine Tintin comics.
A remarkable explanation of the differences between the two versions. I really like these two albums but there are two things that have always shocked me. 1 - The change of style of the first pages in the color version. By the time this happens (leaf 5), I find it ugly. After that I get used to it and of course I find the album very beautiful. 2- The coming of Rastapopoulos. For me, it's impossible that he survived his fall. The end of Cigars of the Pharaoh, which keeps the identity of the leader of the gang a secret is perfect for me. Rastapopoulos doesn't add anything to the story of the Blue Lotus.
Thank you! And I know - the 'shift' in style was confusing but something, like you, that I quickly get used to. As for Rastapopulous, while surviving a fall is sort of classic now (see also Sherlock Holmes! 😊) I guess I also expect a return of a mysterious figure when it was never revealed who they were. But I have to agree that his identity or reveal isn't nearly as important or impactful as it needs to be in this story. Especially since he just volunteers away his secret. I do love him as a character later on in the series, though, so I'm glad he sticks around!
@@ftloc Oh, I had never made the connection with Sherlock Holmes. Well seen ! For Rastapopoulos I agree with you, if he comes back, his performance must be very strong. It is not. But unlike you, I don't like the character of Rastapopoulos (I think he's the only one I don't like). In the two other albums where he performs, he is a little ridiculous and it's hard to believe that he was such a powerful bandit of the Cigars. Okay, so I'm going to keep checking out your videos. They are remarkable.
Have you done a video on EC archives by darkhorse yet? I would love to hear you talk about the reprints. I am confused about which one to collect, gemstone or darkhorse.
Hey I did saw one of your videos which was dedicated to indian comics but was sad that you did not read much of Indian comics but I request to try some of the gems like rakshak from ydc or odayan from level 10.You surely will fall in love with them
I tried Rakshak but it wasn't my cup of tea. Odayan, on the other hand, was quite interesting. I'm looking forward to the next chapter! And I'll definitely feature more independent Indian comics and anthologies in future spotlights!
Great overview of the books! I'm fairly sure the first four pages are the only ones that are fully redrawn in the colour version, and it's only from then onwards that character drawings from the original B&W are used with backgrounds sometimes being altered (and occasionally characters). If you look carefully, Tintin's appearance in the first four pages is his newer look from the redrawn Cigars of the Pharaoh.
Exactly this was brought to my attention just an hour or so ago in another comment! No wonder there's been this whiplash all my life 😁 To add to that, another comment pointed out, the redrawn Tintin appears for one panel in Shanghai! I may have to go back and do a Cigars to Lotus transition comparison, but by that time I'd have niched myself down to five viewers interested! Thanks so much for the note, and the edification!
@@ftloc Ooh, interesting about the redrawn Tintin in Shanghai, I'll have to have a look and try to find it! Really enjoyed the video! Hoping to one day track down my own copy of the facsimile! I wish the facsimiles would be reprinted!
Thank you and re: reprinting: me too! A lot of people seem interested in them. I'd also like them to continue through the series, at least till The Crab With Golden Claws, in their original black and white form.
Hello. Can you please do a quick video comparing different edition of dark knight return, locke and key and v for vendetta. There are more i cant remember right now. I can only afford 1 edition😂 of them each.
Great suggestions, but I may not have enough editions in-hand to do a comparison! Let me see what I can come up with but in the meantime: For Locke and Key I would recommend the Master Editions, for the Dark Knight Returns I am partial to the slipcased set of four slim hardcovers (unless you can get the original issues) and V for Vendetta - well, if you can afford it, I would say go for the Absolute, but there's something very charming about the yellowed paper of my TPB for this story, but maybe that is just nostalgia. 😊
I like pictures like that fourth plate where, it's a piece of art, that has other pieces of art within it. so not only did Herge draw the picture itself, but had to come up with designs for the artwork within his own artwork. As an artist too, that kind of thing always fascinates me.
Absolutely! And in another video I glance at the reference materials (and anecdotes of his friend Chang contributing characters for signage etc) that went into this.
@@ftloc yep have seen them all. Have been following the channel for past one year now. Your videos have been extremely useful as I was able to expand my comic reading from just tintin/asterix. Order of the sticks has been my most favourite among the new ones. Do make a video on that too when possible :).. thanks a lot for making these videos !!
@@hariharaprasadv680 That is simply wonderful to hear, thank you! Long may your enjoyment of this channel continue, and I definitely will talk about The Order of the Stick more than I already have at some point of time soon! Cheers! 😁
As special editions, with smaller print runs and enhanced production, yes, they were more expensive than the regular editions, but I don't even know if the English editions are available any more. As for if they're worth buying, I leave that for people to decide for themselves, and hopefully the videos I've made on a bunch of them help in some way. All my facsimile edition videos are here in this playlist, if you're interested! ruclips.net/p/PLf2B7UoR9NKWyI-w-6f2ifLKMNsDbTGsx
I didn't know about redrawing of tintin comic. I have only seen redrawn version. Also this reminded me of what Dark Horse did with Blade of the immortal.
Yes, it wasn't until only a few years ago that I realized that the first nine Tintin adventures had been redrawn to the forms I was more familiar with! I have no idea what happened with Blade - the publisher got the work redrawn? At least here it was the artist himself, or collaborators under his direct supervision, who were doing this...
@@ftloc on request of Blade of immortal creator Dark Horse flipped all the pages (to make it read like western comic). This made few pages with onomatopoeia look odd. So dark horse cut those pages/panels and adjusted onomatopoeia to keep the flow of the manga intact. You can find few flipped swastika marks due to this.
I'd love to but so far I have only been able t find a French edition of it. If I can't locate an English edition in the next year, I'll just make the video using the French!
From what I have been able to find out, Tintin albums in English were imported into India at least as early as 1970 1971. The Bengali magazine Anandamela serialzed translated Tintin adventures starting in 1975. Translated albums followed in later years.
@@pareekatti The facsimiles of America, Cigars and Lotus have been quite readily available (though not as much as the regular editions of course) since their recent Last Gasp / Casterman reissue. It's the others (Soviets, Congo, and the Egmont colour facsimiles until Ottokar's) that are a lot harder to find (in English) at the moment. Though I wouldn't be surprised if at least the colour facsimiles were reissued again - I believe they would have a good number of buyers.
@@abhishekjamalabad5950 May I know from where I can get my hands on the cigars and America facsimiles? It isn't available on Amazon India or bookswagon
@@pareekatti I bought mine from the Tintin Shop in Singapore. If you're budget conscious, you can wait for a steep price drop like I did - they do happen often. :) I bought them for not much more than their regular album prices. PS - If I may say so - Amazon (India or anywhere else) is the worst place to look for Tintin and other bandes desinees. Artificial rarity and hugely inflated prices.
Is great to watch your video comparisions. I have the old version and the actual version of "L'oreille casée" in catalan lenguage (I'm from Barcelona) and the old version have an entire sequence of a Tintin's dream that not exist in the actual version of the comic book. I want to recommend you "Johan et Pirlouit" comic books by peyó, "Marsupilami" by Franquin and "Les aventures de Chick Bill" by Tibet.
So glad you liked the video and thanks so much for sharing that! I have recently introduced myself to Franquin's works, and would love to check out more Peyo, whose Smurfs I really like. Tibet is someone I've yet to discover! Cheers!
They used to be back when I got them many years ago, but seem to have become hard to find in recent times. I hope they get reprinted sometimes soon, and that they continue with the series!
@@ftloc Thank you for the reply. Yeah I wish I found out about these earlier (Your Channel is the first one I came across discussing about these older different versions, back when you did Black Island I think, and thank you for this). Am hoping to have a full collection of every possible Tintin album (kinda too ambitious :D). Cheers for keeping the Tintin nostalgia alive
I got all of these many years ago, just on Amazon and Infibeam. Unfortunately, they seem harder to find these days. Still, worth checking in from time to time to see if they've been reprinted! Good luck!
I love these facsimile editions. It's unfortunate that the English versions stopped at The Blue Lotus. Still, I think I'm going to have to get the rest in French. I just find them too fascinating to not have in my collection.
I did the same thing (get them in French), albeit with the additional temptation of an unusual and charming format. Documented here: ruclips.net/video/k2bVF8Svl2g/видео.html if interested! 😁
The first nine were; The Shooting Star was the first colour album and the first nine were drawn/ recoloured at the time of various editions, sometimes the English edition, whose audiences were familiar with later adventures (like the Moon and Unicorn stories) before they got to know of the earlier ones (because they were translated later). This video of mine shows the tiny editions of the original nine books: ruclips.net/video/k2bVF8Svl2g/видео.html
Interesting thought! For the most though, I really love the later, detailed style - it's a formative part of the adventures for me, and crucial to how many times I re-read them (I keet finding new things in the pages!) I wouldn;t mind seeing them at half the panels per page though! 😁 Giant Herge art !
It's very hard to be absolutely sure, at least for me, but the colour facsimiles are supposed to be replications of the original colours over the (often) adjusted later editions.
@@peetvader478 I have a small colour comparison between two editions, one facsimile, one 'modern' here: ruclips.net/video/wMImMy-Kwt8/видео.html in case you're interested!
It may feature in a list video or two, but despite how much it blew me away in my younger years, over the years I've found its appeal lessening as a story. Who knows, I may change my mind one day? But right now there are just SO MANY videos I want to make! 😁
@@bitroast I'd agree with that fully. I don't like it when older colouring becomes absolutely unavailable in any form in print, as has happened with a few DC titles now. I believe even the deluxe is new colours only, but the Absolute has both the old and the new, if I am not mistaken, much like Batman Year One? Luckily I have it collected in the earliest edition of the DC Stories of Alan Moore, from which, it has now been removed!
An slim 'about Tintin' book by Tintin scholar Michael Farr, who has a number of books on Tintin. I haven't read this one but have a couple of his others/
I don't understand why when I want to reply to the comment you made on mine the post doesn't work. So I write here. Here is the written comment: Oh, I had never made the connection with Sherlock Holmes. Well seen ! For Rastapopoulos I agree with you, if he comes back, his performance must be very strong. It is not. But unlike you, I don't like the character of Rastapopoulos (I think he's the only one I don't like). In the two other albums where he performs, he is a little ridiculous and it's hard to believe that he was such a powerful bandit of the Cigars. Okay, so I'm going to keep checking out your videos. They are remarkable.
Haha fair enough. Since I first read these books as a kid, I loved the villain being made a buffoon and being ridiculed. And I know people don't like it as much, but I am a fan of Flight 714 and the Rastapopulous/Carriedas truth battle will always hold a soft spot in my heart! 😊
I don't think the Tintin books are overtly racist. Every character in the books regardless of race, including whites. is a caricature. King Ottokars Scepter has caricatures of Eastern European people. The Black Island has caricatures of Scottish people, Prisoners Of The Sun has South American caricatures etc. And Herges strongest life long friendship was with a Chinese boy, Chang. That would be strange indeed if he was racist.
It is strange the 4 first pages set in India were redrawn to the more modern and evolved style, while the rest, set in China, remains in the old primitive style.
Actually have to disagree with you here, I prefer the Boat Scenes going from India to China, especially the map panel, gives it more of a High Adventure feel.
Have you done a video on EC archives by darkhorse yet? I would love to hear you talk about the reprints. I am confused about which one to collect, gemstone or darkhorse.
I only have 7 or 8 volumes of the Gemstone editions, which are excellent. I knew that someone had finished the series (I thought it was IDW, but as you point out it is Dark Horse) but I have not yet gotten my hands on any of those. At this point I think the Gemstone volumes (which were never completed) are harder to get, but from what I can see, Dark Horse has done a good job maintaining the same production specifications. But of course I can't tell first hand, sorry!
@@ftloc o.k thanks. Can you please do a video on Rick Greary's reading order. There are single volume and compendiums. I dunno which volumes are included in collected edition and which ones are left out. Thanks.
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As someone from Belgium, it is so nice to see so many people around the world enjoying these stories. We're very proud of them. Love these Tintin videos you do on this channel :)
Thank you, that means a lot! The love for Tintin is truly global, and over the course of making my videos I've got a sense of just how many people hold this series of books so close to their heart! I'm thrilled to be a small part of this online! 😁
Well it's fun but Asterix have better jokes.
Good viewing for a sunday morning. Thanks.
So glad to hear that! "Sunday morning viewing" is a great tone to go for! 😁
Excellent video- love hearing you talk about Tintin. I'm impressed at how well Herge's art holds up in black and white. The addition of all the background detail does, to my eye, change the impact of the whole comic though. It brings the feel of a real lived in world to a much higher level and makes me invest myself more in each scene.
In my opinion, anytime you have more thoughts about Tintin- go ahead and make a video!
Thank you! I doubt I'll ever be able to get away from Tintin, no matter what else I do 😁
I'm really glad you enjoy these videos! Discovering that Tintin had earlier, black and white versions was a mind blowing thing for me (It wasn't that long ago!) and excavating these changes and adjustments to things so deeply entrenched in my mind from childhood has been quite a wonderful process. To know that sharing what I see continues that process brings the purest satisfaction!
I completely agree with you - Herge's older stuff holds up pretty well, and I really enjoy the black and white.
But just like you, I love the level of background detail and craftsmanship that came into the later adventures (and was inserted into the earlier ones). They add literal depth, putting me in that time and place, and I cannot imagine the series without them!
@@ftloc It's probably that deep seated childhood investment that makes these videos so wonderful.
You're back with Tintin comparison! I was waiting for this for aeons. Thanks a lot. 😀
Thank you! It's been possibly the most specifically requested video of the last months, and I'm glad I could finally tackle it the way I wanted 😁
The redrawing of the figures was, interestingly, restricted to the first few pages, after which Herge decided he could just go with the original drawings for the colorisation, embellishing only the backgrounds. You can see the stark difference in the modern edition where Tintin suddenly appears shorter, with pointy shoes and a more rounded head for the rest of the story.
And about the large redrawn rickshaw panel - it was all Herge's work, not his assistants yet. :)
And now we wait another lifetime for your next Tintin video. :P
Thank you for that wonderful scholarship! In another comment here, we were just discussing how the styles seem to switch and here you've explained it clear as day!
Also good to know that lovely market panel was all Herge!
And haha yes, sorry about the gap between Tintin videos, but there are just so many comics to talk about and celebrate! Also, I have a very limited number of facsimiles left, so I need to space them out to last the rest of this channel's life! 🤣
This is something that had puzzled me a lot when I first read the blue lotus. It was such a drastic shift in appearance from the tintin we saw in the redrawn Cigars of the Pharaoh then to this sets of panels of Blue Lotus.
I think I recall from somewhere that the album was first redrawn rather early on while Herge's style was still similar, and the first pages in modern prints are the result of a second redraw that was abandoned.
Ah, the Tintin comparison saga continues! I don't really have much to say here other than again noting for myself that I need to pick up some Tintin comics and do some reading. I've not read any Tintin since I was a small child (if I remember correctly) - and I might be misremembering, maybe I only watched the animated TV series... in which case I haven't read any Tintin at all!
Great stuff as always, well done sir!
Reading Tintin is so different from most other reading for me, because as a child I read each adventure over and over again. In fact, most of the things I read as a child I read over and over again because I wasn't getting new books every week, but some of them couldn't hold up to the intense scrutiny. The Tintin books could, however, and they rewarded re-reading and provided a deep satisfaction of familiarity, be it with the world, characters, or the separate plots of the books.
That is why finding out that the earliest ones originally looked very different from what I know and loved was such a mind blowing discovery for me, and why I really enjoy making these little comparisons.
I think it would be great to know what you think of Tintin as an adult, unfettered perhaps by the amount of nostalgia I invariably am! 😁
Thank for sharing this.
I found a documentary on Tintin where I saw the orginal drawings.
There is nothing beautiful about orginal, editing is what makes things beautiful.
"That which we call writing is actually editing"
Interesting comparison for someone like me who didn’t read the b&w early versions of Tintin. Around 6:50, about the famous scene in the street. If i’m not mistaken Hergé got help
from his long time friend Tchang for some details about Chinese calligraphy for the coloured edition. As you may know when Hergé got his studios and started to «restore/update»
his albums he got a lot of help from his collaborators. To name a few Bob de Moor and Edgar P.Jacobs. For example de Moor went to England to make sketches for the new «Black
Island» album to update some scenes. De Moor was probably the artist that was able to «copy» perfectly the style of Hergé, so it was really easy for Hergé to take de Moor sketches
and make the final drawings with his own style. De Moor was also doing technical drawings like cars, buildings, etc ( he draw the plane of «Flight 714»). Jacobs was the father of
the series «Blake and Mortimer» and he helped Hergé with colours for the Tintin albums. For instance he helped a lot for the album «King Ottokar’s Sceptre» (in a ballroom scene
Jacob and Hergé make a cameo).
Thanks for this great comment! I've been finding out more and more as the years go by - as a child, I knew only the later, colour versions of every adventure, and thought it was one man doing everything!
I do mention Jacobs and Bob De Moor a little bit in other videos of mine, and take a close look at two later Black Island versions as well, along with videos on America, and Cigars of the Pharaoh.
Another commenter here mentioned that in The Blue Lotus all of the redrawing was by Herge himself though; his associates started helping him after 1946.
And another friend of mine has actually illuminated me that it was Roger Leloup, not Bob Demoor who did the plane in Flight 714, alongside other planes and vehicles throughout. Would you be able to confirm that?
@@ftloc I was right to assume that you knew a lot about Hergé ;-) Yes the studio itself has an interesting story because when you
think of it Hergé was a sort of Walt Disney, creating his characters, this empire around Tintin. I confirm, after a little bit of research, that Roger Leloup
drew the plane of «flight 714». Actually Leloup was known as "the aeronautical expert in the Studios". Getting back to De Moor he took the position
of assistant when Jacobs left to work on his own series.
Bob de Moor et la méthode de travail de Hergé aux Studios (copy/paste this title on RUclips)
In this video of Bob de Moor and Hergé's working method at the Studios you will see the way drawings where made. Basically it shows De Moor getting
rough sketches from Hergé. De Moor refines the drawings by adding precisions and details in the surroundings (like specific plants he had in photos).
Then the pencils drawings gets back to Hergé who will put it’s final touch by inking them. (I know that Hergé had problems with his hands at one point.
Following this fact, I cannot confirm whether De Moor would have done the final inking himself on some pages). It’s the sort of details that could be in
a biography. A few years back a very good one was published and a detail in the content shocked a few fans because it was said that Hergé didn’t like
children! For Jacobs it’s interesting to note that, unlike Hergé, he gave the ok to continue «Blake & Mortimer» after his death. I think there is quite a few
albums published now. The editor alternates with two duets of authors (a designer and a screenwriter), it seems to work because albums are published.
Of course, although the drawings are in the style of Jacobs, there is a slight difference in the rendering. (Too bad DeMoor couldn’t have drawn the last
album of Hergé (Alph’art) because if there was an artist to do it it was him). Cheers!
I absolutely love your Tintin videos, you share my passion! Really happy I found your channel yesterday, keep up the great work and greetings from Ireland
Tha k you so very much, long may your enjoyment of this channel continue! Greetings right back at you from India!
Another great Tintin vid and very informative as usual. Love the splash panels in the original. I remember thinking as a boy that id read all the Tintin books, as here in the UK you only had 16 books on the back cover in the late 70s. Imagine my surprise when this was released in the early 80s in the UK and it was originally published before anything I had already read. Mind was blown and I loved it.
Thank you! And I had a very similar experience - no back cover of any of the albums I read featured the Blue Lotus and I had no idea it existed, because Methuen hadn't brought it out in English. Then one day I saw a copy, thought it was new, and realized it was older!
I talk a little bit about those back covers and trying to navigate that pre-internet in my 'Tintin in the East' video, and I may still have one album with just the 16/17 books you mention! 😁
@@ftloc Good to hear of similar tales. I remember I couldn't wait to get it home to read after requesting it at my local library.
Like Asterix, I would love someone to bring new Tintin stories out but they would have to keep him in that era. Thanks again for the vid, will check the other one out.
Thank you so much! Here's the video ruclips.net/video/N2_gM8FZoug/видео.html with a little bit of personal anecdote at the start 😁
I didn't discover Tintin until I was an adult, but I still enjoyed them thoroughly. I did not realize that this book had been redrawn.
This one was redrawn far less than some of the others. I have videos on America and Black Island as well, and the latter in particular is quite different! Check those out if interested
I have been missing your videos Man. Happy to see this.
Thank you so much and I really hope it was worth the wait! 😁
I just got the black and white version of the blue lotus yesterday. Thanks to your reviews making us aware of these editions. Now hoping to find the other black and white editions. They are being tough to find though
Congratulations! Those ARE getting hard to find - I do hope they get reprinted soon, and we see new ones as well!
Always love watching your takes on the Tintin comics! It's really fascinating to see Herge's evolution as an artist and storyteller. He gets so much better at setting the atmosphere of the locations in the background details, and even his use of panel structure itself gets noticeably better (Picaros being the perfect example, where the camera angles are practically like a live action film).
I'm curious about whether you've read the Quick and Flupke comics. I remember seeing a few copies of them in a bookstore in Mumbai about a decade ago but haven't seen them anywhere since. As someone who has ran out of Tintin books to read, they seem like a good substitute for that void lol.
Thank you!
And I absolutely agree with you on how masterfully Herge's style matures (and how quickly!) over the years, and I remember being very confused in my childhood as to how the person who drew Picaros was the same person who drew America, and I was only looking at the redrawn editions!
There's also a 'modularity' to the adventures that I think comes from their varying forms of serialization (some by the page, some by the row or dual rows of panels) that I think is wholly unique.
Just a few weeks ago I got my very first Quick and Flupke book, a gift from a viewer (as documented in my recent mail-time livestream) but I have not yet cracked it open. I remember reading one Jo Zette and Jocko book in my childhood but other than that it's just been returns to the Tintin well for my Herge fix! 😁
@@ftloc Yeah I noticed that too as I got older. Even the pacing improved a lot. Early adventures had Tintin jumping from one sticky situation to another so that each segment of the story seemed "exciting" to readers when serialized but he gradually got more comfortable with letting them breathe in calmer moments. There's just so much to talk about when it comes to analysing these comics.
Somehow I find the early versions of Tintin adventures so alluring and lovely. I believe there are French editions that allows the reader to compare both versions. Can you confirm if this early version was published in landscape format? It’s clear that Hergé and his studio heavily modified the initial layout, sometimes more than once.
I agree with you on the charm of the earlier, looser style, but the redrawn versions, being what I grew up with and re-read hundreds of times, are too firmly etched into my brain!
I believe that the original serialization was in two page segments, but the redrawn versions and later stories were definitely serialized ALSO in landscape format - often a single row running as a daily strip. I've seen several such newspaper printings myself and I know there are landscape format editions of books like The Seven Crystal Balls and Prisoners of the Sun, even in English!
This is pretty neat seeing all the changes. I really like the art on the Casterman cover. I think I prefer the background on the redrawn edition, with the black dragon on the red background, but I like the way Tintin and the vase look in the original with more detail, shading, and a different design on the vase.
I have to agree with you there, the reworked cover is absolutely brilliant and a classic for a reason!
The comparisons are always very interesting !!!
Glad to hear it and glad you liked the video! Cheers!
Ah! A Sunday video and that too Tintin. My day is made!
and hearing that makes MY day! Cheers!
I love it! Thank you. Will you be continuing these comparisons on the other Tintin books? (I've seen the Tintin in America, The black island and the Cigars of the Pharaoh) :). Big fan as always
There aren't that many more, at least in English, but I could definitely continue this series with one of the smaller French editions I show in another video. I just need to get my technical skills levelled up to shoot and edit between a tight zoom and a wider shot 😝
Great review with attention to detail. One small request is to review 'Meanwhile: Pick Any Path. 3,856 Story Possibilities' by Jason Shiga for its multiending concept and for making the reader actually make decisions for the characters somewhat like a computer game.
I talk about Meanwhile and four other comics by Jason Shiga in this spotlight video!
ruclips.net/video/u8XOwBJPufw/видео.html
Cheers!
A great video, as always :)
An interesting observation I had from my childhood days. In the redrawn version there are 2 very different art styles. When tintin is in india there is a certain style, but once he comes to China, the style changes, more like the old versions of tintin. But the large market place picture in China reverts from the "China" style to the "India" style. :)
Thank you so much!
And yes, this book confused the heck out of me when I was young! I couldn't figure out when it was set, when it was created and why the style varied so much! 😁
I think what you have noted is absolutely correct - there must have been some pages Herge and his assistants touched more than others, and you can see that most in the India sections!
When I was around 10 years old the school library had Tintin books. I picked Blue Lotus as the first one to read. It became my favorite. I don't know why I picked it first.
It's #1 for a lot of people, and many, including myself, find the cover irresistible! Maybe that played some part? 😁
Yay!! I always love these Tintin comparison videos. :) I got my first Tintin B&W Facsimile about a month ago (Cigars of the Pharaoh), and I’m hoping to eventually collect all nine!! That’ll be quite the adventure 😄 In my search, I also found that Éditions Moulinsart is currently colourizing - and for the first time publishing - the original versions of Land of the Soviets - Crab with the Gold Claws! It appears they published the colourized version of Soviets back in 2017 (though a rather thorough search for an English language version has led me to believe it was printed exclusively in French) and while I’ve seen references to a colourized Tintin in the Congo in 2019, it appears to me that it may have only been published in French, in lithograph form. I found this to be really fascinating, but was absolutely chuffed when I found that the colourized version of Tintin in America had just recently been published, and have since been able to get my hands on it! As a fellow Tintin enthusiast/collector, I was curious to hear your thoughts on all this, and whether you had heard of this as well, and or were considering making a video about it. Cheers! 😁
Thanks so much, and glad you enjoyed the video! I heard about those Moulinsart editions in general and the Tintin in America volume in particular, but I have no idea how to get my hands on a copy! The Collectors Editon of Congo, brought out by Casterman, is a colour edition and I think the only one available these days (I could be wrong!)
Soviets I have never seen in colour form at all, interesting to know there is one in French! I think whenever I do another Tintin edition comparison, I may have to go to one of the tiny French copies I have - I believe I'm now out of full-size facsimiles (other than Congo, I suppose). Cheers!
@@ftloc They have the English copy of the colour version of Tintin in America on the official North American site for Tintin. It's interesting as they have three different covers. I could send you a copy if you want.
@@ftloc Whoops! I replied to this yesterday, but apparently it didn’t go through. Oh RUclips 😅 In any case, I was able to find the new colourized version of Tintin in America on The Tintin Shop UK’s website, which I’ll link here 😊 (This is where I got my copy): thetintinshop.uk.com/shop/tintin-in-america-newly-colourised-1932-edition
As for Land of the Soviets, I was delighted to see the Tintin Shop also stocked a reprint of the 2017 French colourized version! Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure there is no English version, though if someone found one, I’d be absolutely thrilled to know! Nonetheless, I’ll link the French version as well: thetintinshop.uk.com/shop/les-aventures-de-tintin-reporter-chez-les-soviets-limited-coloured-edition-copy
Finally, it took me a bit of digging to find the colourized Tintin in the Congo lithograph, but here it is! www.bdaddik.com/en/comics-collectible-portfolios/3869-lithographs-box-moulinsart-tintin-in-congo-colorized-23548-2019-2354800000004.html
It’s worth noting that unlike the Tintin Shop, I’ve never bought from this site before, so unfortunately I can’t vouch for the product’s authenticity. However, I have seen other copies of this circulating around online, so I think it’s likely legit. I find it quite fascinating that when colourizing the original artwork of Tintin in the Congo, Moulinsart chose to publish it exclusively in lithograph form. I wonder if it had to do with their deal with Casterman… 🧐 Either way, just thought I’d share this cool bit of information I found! Hope this helps!
P.S. Personally, I’d love to see a future comparison video using the miniature French facsimiles - especially The Broken Ear, King Ottokar’s Sceptre, or Crab with the Golden Claws!! Looking forward to future videos!! 😁
@@liamblack2009 I have it (Tintin in America (new coloured version)) digitally only for ₹530. And I know they're recently colouring the original versions of the first nine Tintin comics.
A remarkable explanation of the differences between the two versions. I really like these two albums but there are two things that have always shocked me.
1 - The change of style of the first pages in the color version. By the time this happens (leaf 5), I find it ugly. After that I get used to it and of course I find the album very beautiful.
2- The coming of Rastapopoulos. For me, it's impossible that he survived his fall. The end of Cigars of the Pharaoh, which keeps the identity of the leader of the gang a secret is perfect for me. Rastapopoulos doesn't add anything to the story of the Blue Lotus.
Thank you! And I know - the 'shift' in style was confusing but something, like you, that I quickly get used to.
As for Rastapopulous, while surviving a fall is sort of classic now (see also Sherlock Holmes! 😊) I guess I also expect a return of a mysterious figure when it was never revealed who they were. But I have to agree that his identity or reveal isn't nearly as important or impactful as it needs to be in this story. Especially since he just volunteers away his secret. I do love him as a character later on in the series, though, so I'm glad he sticks around!
@@ftloc Oh, I had never made the connection with Sherlock Holmes. Well seen ! For Rastapopoulos I agree with you, if he comes back, his performance must be very strong. It is not. But unlike you, I don't like the character of Rastapopoulos (I think he's the only one I don't like). In the two other albums where he performs, he is a little ridiculous and it's hard to believe that he was such a powerful bandit of the Cigars. Okay, so I'm going to keep checking out your videos. They are remarkable.
Ah, a proper video after a long time 💙
Haha I hope you enjoyed it!
Have you done a video on EC archives by darkhorse yet? I would love to hear you talk about the reprints. I am confused about which one to collect, gemstone or darkhorse.
Hey I did saw one of your videos which was dedicated to indian comics but was sad that you did not read much of Indian comics but I request to try some of the gems like rakshak from ydc or odayan from level 10.You surely will fall in love with them
I tried Rakshak but it wasn't my cup of tea. Odayan, on the other hand, was quite interesting. I'm looking forward to the next chapter! And I'll definitely feature more independent Indian comics and anthologies in future spotlights!
Great overview of the books! I'm fairly sure the first four pages are the only ones that are fully redrawn in the colour version, and it's only from then onwards that character drawings from the original B&W are used with backgrounds sometimes being altered (and occasionally characters). If you look carefully, Tintin's appearance in the first four pages is his newer look from the redrawn Cigars of the Pharaoh.
Exactly this was brought to my attention just an hour or so ago in another comment! No wonder there's been this whiplash all my life 😁
To add to that, another comment pointed out, the redrawn Tintin appears for one panel in Shanghai!
I may have to go back and do a Cigars to Lotus transition comparison, but by that time I'd have niched myself down to five viewers interested! Thanks so much for the note, and the edification!
@@ftloc Ooh, interesting about the redrawn Tintin in Shanghai, I'll have to have a look and try to find it! Really enjoyed the video! Hoping to one day track down my own copy of the facsimile! I wish the facsimiles would be reprinted!
Thank you and re: reprinting: me too! A lot of people seem interested in them. I'd also like them to continue through the series, at least till The Crab With Golden Claws, in their original black and white form.
@@ftloc Yes, that would be great, I don't really consider my collection complete until I have all the different versions!
Enjoy your comparison videos!!
Thank you! So great to hear!
Hello. Can you please do a quick video comparing different edition of dark knight return, locke and key and v for vendetta. There are more i cant remember right now. I can only afford 1 edition😂 of them each.
Great suggestions, but I may not have enough editions in-hand to do a comparison!
Let me see what I can come up with but in the meantime: For Locke and Key I would recommend the Master Editions, for the Dark Knight Returns I am partial to the slipcased set of four slim hardcovers (unless you can get the original issues) and V for Vendetta - well, if you can afford it, I would say go for the Absolute, but there's something very charming about the yellowed paper of my TPB for this story, but maybe that is just nostalgia. 😊
@@ftloc thanks. Apprecitae the reply.
What a great channel and video !!
Thank you so much; thrilled to have you! Hope you find plenty to like here, past and future 😁!
Cheers from Belgium !
I like pictures like that fourth plate where, it's a piece of art, that has other pieces of art within it. so not only did Herge draw the picture itself, but had to come up with designs for the artwork within his own artwork. As an artist too, that kind of thing always fascinates me.
Absolutely! And in another video I glance at the reference materials (and anecdotes of his friend Chang contributing characters for signage etc) that went into this.
Wow a tintin video ! More such please :P ... loved this comparison video.
Haha thank you, so good to hear. Have you had the chance to check the other Tintin edition comparisons I have done?
@@ftloc yep have seen them all. Have been following the channel for past one year now. Your videos have been extremely useful as I was able to expand my comic reading from just tintin/asterix. Order of the sticks has been my most favourite among the new ones. Do make a video on that too when possible :).. thanks a lot for making these videos !!
@@hariharaprasadv680 That is simply wonderful to hear, thank you! Long may your enjoyment of this channel continue, and I definitely will talk about The Order of the Stick more than I already have at some point of time soon! Cheers! 😁
Hello,
Are the Casterman books worth buying? Are these more expensive?
As special editions, with smaller print runs and enhanced production, yes, they were more expensive than the regular editions, but I don't even know if the English editions are available any more. As for if they're worth buying, I leave that for people to decide for themselves, and hopefully the videos I've made on a bunch of them help in some way. All my facsimile edition videos are here in this playlist, if you're interested! ruclips.net/p/PLf2B7UoR9NKWyI-w-6f2ifLKMNsDbTGsx
I didn't know about redrawing of tintin comic. I have only seen redrawn version. Also this reminded me of what Dark Horse did with Blade of the immortal.
Yes, it wasn't until only a few years ago that I realized that the first nine Tintin adventures had been redrawn to the forms I was more familiar with!
I have no idea what happened with Blade - the publisher got the work redrawn? At least here it was the artist himself, or collaborators under his direct supervision, who were doing this...
@@ftloc on request of Blade of immortal creator Dark Horse flipped all the pages (to make it read like western comic). This made few pages with onomatopoeia look odd. So dark horse cut those pages/panels and adjusted onomatopoeia to keep the flow of the manga intact. You can find few flipped swastika marks due to this.
Can you please make a video on tintin the crab with the golden claws black and white version comic book comparison !🤩🤩
I'd love to but so far I have only been able t find a French edition of it. If I can't locate an English edition in the next year, I'll just make the video using the French!
Who first published blue lotus in India 🇮🇳? Can you share any details please 🙏
From what I have been able to find out, Tintin albums in English were imported into India at least as early as 1970 1971.
The Bengali magazine Anandamela serialzed translated Tintin adventures starting in 1975. Translated albums followed in later years.
Thanks what was the name of the Indian publisher? Do you have copies of these editions?
@@前橋みき The magazine Tintin was published in was called Anandamela
This is my favourite Tintin adventure, I also noticed that the facsimile wasn't available on bookswagon, so I bought it instantly
You mean it WAS available on BW? Nice snag, it's gotten hard to find, I heard. I'm sure you'll treasure it!
@@ftloc Yep, I did a typo. I've been looking for these for quite some time now. Hopefully other facsimiles will be available soon
@@pareekatti The facsimiles of America, Cigars and Lotus have been quite readily available (though not as much as the regular editions of course) since their recent Last Gasp / Casterman reissue. It's the others (Soviets, Congo, and the Egmont colour facsimiles until Ottokar's) that are a lot harder to find (in English) at the moment. Though I wouldn't be surprised if at least the colour facsimiles were reissued again - I believe they would have a good number of buyers.
@@abhishekjamalabad5950 May I know from where I can get my hands on the cigars and America facsimiles? It isn't available on Amazon India or bookswagon
@@pareekatti I bought mine from the Tintin Shop in Singapore. If you're budget conscious, you can wait for a steep price drop like I did - they do happen often. :) I bought them for not much more than their regular album prices.
PS - If I may say so - Amazon (India or anywhere else) is the worst place to look for Tintin and other bandes desinees. Artificial rarity and hugely inflated prices.
Is great to watch your video comparisions. I have the old version and the actual version of "L'oreille casée" in catalan lenguage (I'm from Barcelona) and the old version have an entire sequence of a Tintin's dream that not exist in the actual version of the comic book. I want to recommend you "Johan et Pirlouit" comic books by peyó, "Marsupilami" by Franquin and "Les aventures de Chick Bill" by Tibet.
So glad you liked the video and thanks so much for sharing that! I have recently introduced myself to Franquin's works, and would love to check out more Peyo, whose Smurfs I really like. Tibet is someone I've yet to discover! Cheers!
Are these Casterman "Original Drawing" versions available for purchase anywhere?
They used to be back when I got them many years ago, but seem to have become hard to find in recent times. I hope they get reprinted sometimes soon, and that they continue with the series!
@@ftloc Thank you for the reply. Yeah I wish I found out about these earlier (Your Channel is the first one I came across discussing about these older different versions, back when you did Black Island I think, and thank you for this). Am hoping to have a full collection of every possible Tintin album (kinda too ambitious :D). Cheers for keeping the Tintin nostalgia alive
@@wasimakram93 and thank YOU for watching! 😁
Forgive me, sir, but will you say where can I find the black and white version of this book?
I got all of these many years ago, just on Amazon and Infibeam. Unfortunately, they seem harder to find these days. Still, worth checking in from time to time to see if they've been reprinted! Good luck!
I love these facsimile editions. It's unfortunate that the English versions stopped at The Blue Lotus. Still, I think I'm going to have to get the rest in French. I just find them too fascinating to not have in my collection.
I did the same thing (get them in French), albeit with the additional temptation of an unusual and charming format. Documented here: ruclips.net/video/k2bVF8Svl2g/видео.html if interested! 😁
@@ftloc I am indeed interested. Thank you!
Were all the Tintin books originally released in black and white?
The first nine were; The Shooting Star was the first colour album and the first nine were drawn/ recoloured at the time of various editions, sometimes the English edition, whose audiences were familiar with later adventures (like the Moon and Unicorn stories) before they got to know of the earlier ones (because they were translated later).
This video of mine shows the tiny editions of the original nine books: ruclips.net/video/k2bVF8Svl2g/видео.html
@@ftloc Now I wonder how the later adventures would look, if they were ever to be extrapolated into the black and white, longer page count format.
Interesting thought! For the most though, I really love the later, detailed style - it's a formative part of the adventures for me, and crucial to how many times I re-read them (I keet finding new things in the pages!)
I wouldn;t mind seeing them at half the panels per page though! 😁 Giant Herge art !
I bought a facsimile tintin.. but the colours seem off...I wonder if the colours are really the same as the original editions
It's very hard to be absolutely sure, at least for me, but the colour facsimiles are supposed to be replications of the original colours over the (often) adjusted later editions.
@@ftloc it would great if someone could put them side to side. I actually prefered the colour of the newer prints than the facsimile .
@@peetvader478 I have a small colour comparison between two editions, one facsimile, one 'modern' here: ruclips.net/video/wMImMy-Kwt8/видео.html in case you're interested!
Taking cue from your line...About the more activisty and empathetic TinTin....Could you also do a video on Joe Sacco and his body of work?
Not yet, long due, i think but a bit intimidating! 😁
@@ftloc oh...You're going to do just fine...Full faith!😊👍
you can also compare the land of black gold 1950 vs 1971 version....
I wish I could get my hands on any edition of the original version - alas, it eludes me!
Can you make a video on killing joker 😄😄
Haha honestly, I doubt it 😁
@@ftloc why ?
It may feature in a list video or two, but despite how much it blew me away in my younger years, over the years I've found its appeal lessening as a story. Who knows, I may change my mind one day? But right now there are just SO MANY videos I want to make! 😁
it's such a bummer the original colouring is no longer available to buy, outside of the deluxe edition. dumb decision making somewhere..
@@bitroast I'd agree with that fully. I don't like it when older colouring becomes absolutely unavailable in any form in print, as has happened with a few DC titles now. I believe even the deluxe is new colours only, but the Absolute has both the old and the new, if I am not mistaken, much like Batman Year One? Luckily I have it collected in the earliest edition of the DC Stories of Alan Moore, from which, it has now been removed!
have you read any traditional Chinese manhua ?
Alas, never!
What is tintin & co
An slim 'about Tintin' book by Tintin scholar Michael Farr, who has a number of books on Tintin. I haven't read this one but have a couple of his others/
I don't understand why when I want to reply to the comment you made on mine the post doesn't work. So I write here. Here is the written comment:
Oh, I had never made the connection with Sherlock Holmes. Well seen ! For Rastapopoulos I agree with you, if he comes back, his performance must be very strong. It is not. But unlike you, I don't like the character of Rastapopoulos (I think he's the only one I don't like). In the two other albums where he performs, he is a little ridiculous and it's hard to believe that he was such a powerful bandit of the Cigars. Okay, so I'm going to keep checking out your videos. They are remarkable.
Haha fair enough. Since I first read these books as a kid, I loved the villain being made a buffoon and being ridiculed. And I know people don't like it as much, but I am a fan of Flight 714 and the Rastapopulous/Carriedas truth battle will always hold a soft spot in my heart! 😊
Bro do you read indian comics?
I don't think the Tintin books are overtly racist. Every character in the books regardless of race, including whites. is a caricature. King Ottokars Scepter has caricatures of Eastern European people. The Black Island has caricatures of Scottish people, Prisoners Of The Sun has South American caricatures etc. And Herges strongest life long friendship was with a Chinese boy, Chang. That would be strange indeed if he was racist.
It is strange the 4 first pages set in India were redrawn to the more modern and evolved style, while the rest, set in China, remains in the old primitive style.
Yes, apparently they just stopped the redrawing after a few pages! 😁
Just a wish that I could own the historic version 😂
Btw sir where are from india
I live in New Delhi!
Actually have to disagree with you here, I prefer the Boat Scenes going from India to China, especially the map panel, gives it more of a High Adventure feel.
I have to admit, I do like those old adventure serial map travel sequences! 😁
@@ftloc Yep the map travel sequences never go out of style!
Whose read this one I have the Library who had them closed down lost to myth a 1945 collection
Have you done a video on EC archives by darkhorse yet? I would love to hear you talk about the reprints. I am confused about which one to collect, gemstone or darkhorse.
I only have 7 or 8 volumes of the Gemstone editions, which are excellent. I knew that someone had finished the series (I thought it was IDW, but as you point out it is Dark Horse) but I have not yet gotten my hands on any of those. At this point I think the Gemstone volumes (which were never completed) are harder to get, but from what I can see, Dark Horse has done a good job maintaining the same production specifications. But of course I can't tell first hand, sorry!
@@ftloc o.k thanks. Can you please do a video on Rick Greary's reading order. There are single volume and compendiums. I dunno which volumes are included in collected edition and which ones are left out. Thanks.