Thank so much! I have an Envaya Mini and I was wondering if disassembly was easy or not. In this video you show very clearly how to take it apart and once I'm disassembling mine I will use this video as a guide! I'm a bit sad to hear that the battery is not fit for upgrading, but luckily you can charge the Envaya Mini with a powerbank.
erikpoephoofd Oh by the way, could you tell me how you painted the blue cloth? I did my best to understand your German but I only understand some words in German.
Thanks for the dissassembly video. It was very useful. I just replaced the old battery with a brand new 3200mah Panasonic. This little thing is a bitch to take apart! Not to mention to fit the new battery... There is almost no spare place inside. Quite a piece of engineering!
Hi, i had problems with my envaya mini, one day when it was fully charged after playing 3-4 songs it turned off and it was absolutely dead ( unable to charge, blinking red led and thats it) After that i was unable to switch it on even when it was connected to the charger. After that i found this tutorial and replaced battery thinking that was the main problem. After replacing original battery ( with better one Panasonic NCR-18650 B 3400 mAh Li-ion) envaya mini started working like nothing happened, after that i pluged device into charger… Device is charging normali so i think ok problem is solved, but after 1 hour when i came to check if it is fully charged device came back to same problem as before. Today i disassembled only rubber cap on side where power button is ( just two screws ) , pulled out small round golden pin for a second and it seems that created some kind of hard reset and now everything works. So if it will crash again .. it isn not so hard to do this reset again. Hope it will help somenone. Br.
Did you use some original panasonic battery or a cheap Chinese replacement ? on ebay big chance to buy a fake replacement battery. how determine if its original vs fake one? thanks
Robert Martinez Thank you. I tried to do the video in english, but I am not able to speak intuitively like in my native language. I need more practise. ;) Most important I said is that I do not suggest to change the battery because it is wired and it is not clear how the protection circuit will work with an other battery.
ahhh thanks! Just make sure you practice! Also you could do captions in english too (I think), if you really want to make it available to in english too.
+Mark MLSensai (miniklangwunder) I dont think it's a problem. Do you know if that was a protected or non protected battery? I want to put in a 3600 mAh in mine.
Thanks for the battery help, unfortunately it seems to be the circuit board attached to the battety that is faulty. I have another one but it only has 2 solder connections, not 3 like the envaya one.
Der Akku soll sich ja entladen weil NFC dauerhaft an ist. Hat schon mal jemand gestestet einfach das NFC Modul abzustecken? Sind die Probleme dann erledigt bzw. geht er so überhaupt an. Benutze eh ein iPhone und kann daher mit NFC nix anfangen.
Nice disassembly video. Danke schön. Do you know what brand and model number the 2600 mAh 18650 li-ion cell is? It would be nice to know what type of li-ion chemistry to get, so you order one before taking it apart. There's many different types of li-ion chemistires and some are designed for high discharge current applications at the cost of capacity (for cordless power porwer tools etc.), while others are designed for lower discharge rates, but with higher capacity (for laptops etc.). Some li-ion chemistries require different charging voltages and discharge protection than others, so it's very important to get the right type when replacing li-ion cells.
Hi! I have replaced the battery (2400 mAh because I had one) and apparently everything is fine except the battery status LED (green, orange and red) that does not work. You know why? Thank you!
Hallo Mark, Danke für das tolle Video, kurze frage da ich mir gerne solch einen Denon Envaya Mini kaufen möchte jedoch mir das Blaue Stofftuch unter dem gitter nicht gefällt und dieses gerne entfernen möchte bzw. vielleicht auch gegen ein schwarzes Stofftuch austauschen möchte, wollte ich dich fragen ist es recht aufwändig dieses Tuch zu entfernen da es ja bei Deinem Video schon nicht mehr drauf ist. Was ist Deine meinung ist es ratsam wieder ein Stofftuch draufzugeben o. könnte man es gleich weglassen.
Hallo Jürgen, das Stofftuch ist einfach mit einer Art doppelseitigem Klebeband befestigt und ist in wenigen Sekunden entfernt. Das Klebeband war es bei mir dann allerdings auch. Dann einfach neues Klebeband anbringen. Ich habe einen dünnen roten Baumwollstoff damals eingeklebt, nachdem ich ihn etwa 4 Wochen "nackt" betrieben habe. Doch irgendwann schimmerte arg der Staub durch das Gitter. Daher ist meine Empfehlung auf jeden Fall einen neuen Staubschutz anzubringen. Dennoch musst du ausprobieren, da manche Stoffe extrem die Höhen schlucken. Übrigens war mein einfacher Baumwollstoff klangneutraler als der von Denon. 😉 Gruß
BarryLlewellynperson the driver layout from the bose soundlink mini is copied as well if you state it like that... soundbars for tv's has been around way longer than compact bluetooth speakers and featured this layout
Cuerex Apologies if I didn't make myself clear, the layout isn't copied. The drivers and passive radiators are copied. They're the exact same size and form, with a few very minor changes, but they're very clearly copied, and I'm very surprised they haven't got in trouble with Bose for it.
Cuerex I know several manufacturers in China producing the same drivers, they are however an original Bose design. Several more dodgy speakers sold in Asia use the same drivers and passive radiators, but Im surprised that a more established company would also reproduce them. If I may say so myself, Denon have recreated a better driver than the original Bose drivers. Much better treble due to the new speaker cone by the looks of it.
BarryLlewellynperson i'm not an engineer when it comes to this sadly. but what i learned over time is that larger/thicker drivers mean more power beneath and yeah, i just ordered the envaya, i do own KEF LS50 so i know what accurate sound reproduction sounds like.. i think that the bass heaviness is tweakable via equaliser though
Mine does. On battery power it lasts for about 15 seconds, but still works almost normally when plugged in. I say almost, as on loud volumes, sound gets distorted and it seems that its not getting enough current.
Moin zusammen.... Blöde Frage, mein Gerät macht auch keinen Mucks mehr. Ist nun zerlegt und der Akku entfernt. Lässt sich der Speaker auch ohne Akku betreiben?
Well, they don't make it easy to get to that battery! Jesus. Sitting here watching this with the sound coming from my EM. It's just started doing the dead battery stuff (I think I've had for at least 4 years) and I've always wondered how easy/difficult it would be to put a new one in. This is pretty much what I expected. Not sure if I'm up for it. I've got USB battery banks, so I'll wait until they don't work I guess. Thanks for the video.
@@TigerDave I just ordered a regular 18650 cell, a Panasonic I already used in a vacuum cleaner. It should be 3200 mAh and it cost me 4,5€. No protection circuit, but you don't need one as the built-in battery has one. You have to carefully cut the plastic housing and harvest the circuitry, and then solder it on the new cell. Not very difficult, but be careful (don't short anything) and make sure to make it as thin as possible, for the is very little space to fit the battery. Another guy did the same here :yadi.sk/d/hNTtA_RdpGNSt
In meinem Fall habe ich einen Denon Enavay DSB-50BT, auf den der Akku auch dann entladen ist, wenn Sie ihn (theoretisch) vollständig aufgeladen lassen. Selbst wenn Sie ihn nicht verwenden, wird er nach zwei Wochen entladen sein. Wenn es frisch geladen ist, fällt es mit der Dauer seiner Batterie zusammen, die der Mini vor mir ist. In Amazon gibt es mehrere Berichte über Batteriefehler dieser Art und es scheint, dass ohne Lösung. Hatten Sie diese Symptome vor und / oder nach der Änderung?
Bei meinem DSB-100 beträgt die Laufzeit nach ca. 1,5 Jahren nur noch 10-15 Minuten. Daher plane ich, den Austausch zu wagen. Das Panasonic-Modell mit Lötfahnen wäre dann sicherlich die passendste Variante? Die angelötete Elektronik müsste sich doch auch an den Austausch-Akku anlöten lassen - oder übersehe ich da etwas?
Ich würde gerne etwas fragen: Nach einigen Monaten oder Jahren Laufzeit wird sich doch die Leistung des Li-Ion Akkus merklich verringern - denkst Du also dass dann ein Akkutausch auch eher nicht möglich wäre? Was ist Deine Einschätzung dazu? Danke schon mal für dieses Video!
Also, es ist ja klar, was für ein Akku verbaut ist. Wenn man eben einen Akku austauscht, dann geht das nur unter dem Risiko, dass man nicht weiß in wie weit die Ladeschaltung auf den fremden Akku abgestimmt ist. Im schlimmsten Fall kann es zur Überhitzung und Akkubrand kommen mit allen möglichen drastischen Folgen. Was anderes darf ich als E-Techniker dazu nicht schreiben.
Thanks for the reply. Makes sense, would be interesting to see if a 2900mAh panasonic 18650PD(high current) would work better . Maybe I'll try someday when the battery in my Envaya mini is old.
Very good video. I see the 18650 is 2600mAh. Maybe it would be possible to put a higher capacity 18650 in the speaker like a Panasonic 3400mAh to extend run time?
Matt Hoyle Hi Matt, I already tried a 3400mAh battery in an onther speaker and there was only a improvement of 10 percent. Because the 3400mAh battery will give the energy down to lower voltage as the speaker is designed for. These high capacity batteries are very good for RC cars or LED flashlight but not for the Denon Envaya Mini. I am sorry.
Mark L. MLSensai So what you're saying is that the speaker turns off at a certain voltage for battery protection, but when you put in a higher capacity battery it could have longer play time, but it doesn't because of that protection?
Mark L. MLSensai Are you familiar with problems with malfunctioning of this device, i was using for about 2 weeks, and i can not recharge it now? Bought from Argos UK.
+Matt Hoyle I put Panasonic 3400mAh, win - just over 20%. Earlier in the fully discharged Denon when loading flows into 2500mAh, it is now - about 3050mAh. If it were possible to put 2x3400mAh, then the payoff would be substantial. But there is no place ...)))
Hallo. Ich habe diese Lautsprecher, aber die Platine, an der Sie den Lade-USB anschließen, ist beschädigt. Können Sie die USB-Anschlüsse detaillierter zeigen, um zu versuchen, den Micro-USB-Anschluss zu ersetzen? Vielen Dank
К сожалению у меня его больше нет и не хотелось его полностью разбирать. Я хотел показать, как открыть динамик, не повредив его. ( Leider habe ich es nicht mehr und wollte es nicht komplett zerlegen. Ich wollte zeigen, wie man den Lautsprecher öffnet, ohne ihn zu beschädigen.)
Guter Lautsprecher - und der beschissenste Akku, den man sich vorstellen kann. Was Denon sich dabie gedacht hat, weiß ich nicht. Der Lautsprecher wird zurzeit von meinen Eltern benutzt, Die Laufzeit beträgt maximal 20 Min. Spricht etwas dagegen, ihn permanent am Ladekabel zu lassen?
Hi, yes it is true. The DEM is very special. It has 100 volume steps. If you set it to volume level above 60 the power consumption is somehow at maximum even if you play only very quite with volume level 1 of 16 with e.g. Android device. More than 6 hours playtime re not possible. If you set on the DEM level 50 as maximum an then you only use your player to change the volume, then the playtime will be extended to 9 hours. There is a sevond possibility why your playtime is not satisfying. It seems, that some production charges have problems with the battery management. There are some cases where the DEM plays only short time till it won't start anymore. Maybe this could help you. Best regards Mark
Wonder if those drivers fit in a SoundLink Mini? They sure looks very alike except cone design! Guess they have a little better treble dispersion with their center dome design. You could then Frankenstein the ultimate portable speaker :D Combine the best of both worlds. You didn't very well show the battery. Is it just one or two standard 18650 wrapped with a protective IC? If so then would be very easy to rebuild pack when it needs. Also if they've chosen low capacity 2300 mAh cells like Bose then you could exchange them for some 3400 mAh Panasonic or 3500 mAh LG to get much longer runtime.
Hi ich habe die gleiche Bluetooth Box aber seid heute morgen Leuchtet die Box Rot (Akku) und auf der anderre Seite Weiß es blinkt aber nicht es bleibt einfach an auschalten kann ich es auch nicht
Das war keine Folie sondern Stoff. Der ist nicht wasserdicht. Ist eher ein Staubschutz und hält vereinzelt Spritzwassertropfen auf. 😉 Mittlerweile habe Ich einen neuen Stoff drunter, in Rot. Sieht mega geil aus.
Da würde ich auf Nummer sicher gehen und den etwas weiter wegstellen. Der hat zwar innen überall Dichtgummis, dennoch wirbt der Hersteller ja nicht mit Wasser- Beständigkeit.
Leggo che molti hanno avuto lo stesso problema batteria! Bene, io ho modificato il tutto alloggiando una Lion con protezione e controllo termico, controllo sul sovraccarico e sul caricamento e scaricamento ecc., da 3,7v da ben 8800mah! tagliando con un cutter gli spessori in plastica che tengono la batteria nell'alloggiamento, sono riuscito a mettere la nuova batteria, che come dite in molti è un filo piu' lunga, e non siete riusciti a metterla. Basta modificare poco il cabinet. ora la mia Denon, che prima era morta, dura anche piu' di 12 ore ;)prima in 30min era scarica.... notate bene, il problema che si crea (bruciature dei condensatori smd, surriscaldamenti ecc) è dovuto alla scarsa batteria che usano mettere di fabbrica. ed è lei che danneggia anche lo speaker e non solo la durata scarsissima di ascolto. Cambiate subito batteria, ancora quando è nuovo il prodotto. costo della nuova batteria 4 € ;) fate un po' voi i vostri conti ;) Nel rimontare il tutto, fate molta attenzione ai passaggi. Per quanto riguarda la tela acustica, fissatela da un lato con del nastro isolante sottile, fatela scorrere all'interno della griglia metallica in modo che non si stacchi e rimanga attaccata bene al bordo, una volta entrata tutta nella griglia, mandate avanti di 1 cm lo speaker e togliete il nastro, il gioco è fatto. La mia non sembra mai stata aperta, come nuova. con una batteria finalmente performante. Ciao a tutti e ciao al mitico Olev ;) è colpa tua se ho preso la denon e anche la mia preferita, la B&O S3 beoplay (dalla cina originale, 116 €) ;) ve lo consiglio l's3 per casa. Bomba Mostra meno RISPONDI
@Stefan Arnautovic da ist dann leider der Akku total platt. Wenn du noch Gewährleistung hast, dann zum Händler und umtauschen. Das ist der sicherste Weg. Gruß Mark
Thank so much!
I have an Envaya Mini and I was wondering if disassembly was easy or not. In this video you show very clearly how to take it apart and once I'm disassembling mine I will use this video as a guide!
I'm a bit sad to hear that the battery is not fit for upgrading, but luckily you can charge the Envaya Mini with a powerbank.
erikpoephoofd
Oh by the way, could you tell me how you painted the blue cloth?
I did my best to understand your German but I only understand some words in German.
Thanks for the dissassembly video. It was very useful. I just replaced the old battery with a brand new 3200mah Panasonic. This little thing is a bitch to take apart! Not to mention to fit the new battery... There is almost no spare place inside. Quite a piece of engineering!
Hi, i had problems with my envaya mini, one day when it was fully charged after playing 3-4 songs it turned off and it was absolutely dead ( unable to charge, blinking red led and thats it)
After that i was unable to switch it on even when it was connected to the charger. After that i found this tutorial and replaced battery thinking that was the main problem.
After replacing original battery ( with better one Panasonic NCR-18650 B 3400 mAh Li-ion) envaya mini started working like nothing happened, after that i pluged device into charger…
Device is charging normali so i think ok problem is solved, but after 1 hour when i came to check if it is fully charged device came back to same problem as before.
Today i disassembled only rubber cap on side where power button is ( just two screws ) , pulled out small round golden pin for a second and it seems that created some kind of hard reset and now everything works.
So if it will crash again .. it isn not so hard to do this reset again. Hope it will help somenone. Br.
which small round golden pin did you pull out?
I have exactly the same problem
at 2:33 you can see that there is only one golden pin, he probably means that one.
Did you use some original panasonic battery or a cheap Chinese replacement ? on ebay big chance to buy
a fake replacement battery. how determine if its original vs fake one? thanks
hi there, is there any battery sparepart for this? ur u modified with urself?
Awesome video, I appreciate this! Thanks! Although I don't understand what you're saying throughout the video it's still good and cool.
Robert Martinez
Thank you. I tried to do the video in english, but I am not able to speak intuitively like in my native language.
I need more practise. ;)
Most important I said is that I do not suggest to change the battery because it is wired and it is not clear how the protection circuit will work with an other battery.
ahhh thanks! Just make sure you practice! Also you could do captions in english too (I think), if you really want to make it available to in english too.
+Mark MLSensai (miniklangwunder) I dont think it's a problem. Do you know if that was a protected or non protected battery? I want to put in a 3600 mAh in mine.
Krass :)
Ich mag es sehr!
Thanks for the battery help, unfortunately it seems to be the circuit board attached to the battety that is faulty. I have another one but it only has 2 solder connections, not 3 like the envaya one.
Der Akku soll sich ja entladen weil NFC dauerhaft an ist. Hat schon mal jemand gestestet einfach das NFC Modul abzustecken? Sind die Probleme dann erledigt bzw. geht er so überhaupt an. Benutze eh ein iPhone und kann daher mit NFC nix anfangen.
Nice disassembly video. Danke schön.
Do you know what brand and model number the 2600 mAh 18650 li-ion cell is?
It would be nice to know what type of li-ion chemistry to get, so you order one before taking it apart.
There's many different types of li-ion chemistires and some are designed for high discharge current applications at the cost of capacity (for cordless power porwer tools etc.), while others are designed for lower discharge rates, but with higher capacity (for laptops etc.). Some li-ion chemistries require different charging voltages and discharge protection than others, so it's very important to get the right type when replacing li-ion cells.
Hi! I have replaced the battery (2400 mAh because I had one) and apparently everything is fine except the battery status LED (green, orange and red) that does not work. You know why? Thank you!
What kind of screwdriver did you use for disassembling? Is it Torx T6?
Is T5, regards.
Hallo Mark, Danke für das tolle Video, kurze frage da ich mir gerne solch einen Denon Envaya Mini kaufen möchte jedoch mir das Blaue Stofftuch unter dem gitter nicht gefällt und dieses gerne entfernen möchte bzw. vielleicht auch gegen ein schwarzes Stofftuch austauschen möchte, wollte ich dich fragen ist es recht aufwändig dieses Tuch zu entfernen da es ja bei Deinem Video schon nicht mehr drauf ist.
Was ist Deine meinung ist es ratsam wieder ein Stofftuch draufzugeben o. könnte man es gleich weglassen.
Hallo Jürgen,
das Stofftuch ist einfach mit einer Art doppelseitigem Klebeband befestigt und ist in wenigen Sekunden entfernt. Das Klebeband war es bei mir dann allerdings auch. Dann einfach neues Klebeband anbringen. Ich habe einen dünnen roten Baumwollstoff damals eingeklebt, nachdem ich ihn etwa 4 Wochen "nackt" betrieben habe. Doch irgendwann schimmerte arg der Staub durch das Gitter. Daher ist meine Empfehlung auf jeden Fall einen neuen Staubschutz anzubringen.
Dennoch musst du ausprobieren, da manche Stoffe extrem die Höhen schlucken.
Übrigens war mein einfacher Baumwollstoff klangneutraler als der von Denon. 😉
Gruß
Thanks for the video!!
BarryLlewellynperson the driver layout from the bose soundlink mini is copied as well if you state it like that... soundbars for tv's has been around way longer than compact bluetooth speakers and featured this layout
Cuerex Apologies if I didn't make myself clear, the layout isn't copied. The drivers and passive radiators are copied. They're the exact same size and form, with a few very minor changes, but they're very clearly copied, and I'm very surprised they haven't got in trouble with Bose for it.
BarryLlewellynperson my guess is that they have the same partner in china to develop those drivers :)
Cuerex I know several manufacturers in China producing the same drivers, they are however an original Bose design. Several more dodgy speakers sold in Asia use the same drivers and passive radiators, but Im surprised that a more established company would also reproduce them. If I may say so myself, Denon have recreated a better driver than the original Bose drivers. Much better treble due to the new speaker cone by the looks of it.
BarryLlewellynperson i'm not an engineer when it comes to this sadly. but what i learned over time is that larger/thicker drivers mean more power beneath and yeah, i just ordered the envaya, i do own KEF LS50 so i know what accurate sound reproduction sounds like.. i think that the bass heaviness is tweakable via equaliser though
Great video. My micro usb connector parted from the motherboard, is it easy to put back on? Does anyone know someone who can repair it for me?
Nice video! I have a question... when the battery is at end of life, will the speaker still work plugged in? Denon customer support said "sometimes"
Mine does. On battery power it lasts for about 15 seconds, but still works almost normally when plugged in. I say almost, as on loud volumes, sound gets distorted and it seems that its not getting enough current.
Moin zusammen....
Blöde Frage, mein Gerät macht auch keinen Mucks mehr. Ist nun zerlegt und der Akku entfernt.
Lässt sich der Speaker auch ohne Akku betreiben?
Well, they don't make it easy to get to that battery! Jesus. Sitting here watching this with the sound coming from my EM. It's just started doing the dead battery stuff (I think I've had for at least 4 years) and I've always wondered how easy/difficult it would be to put a new one in. This is pretty much what I expected. Not sure if I'm up for it. I've got USB battery banks, so I'll wait until they don't work I guess. Thanks for the video.
I just posted an Instructable here, check it out:
www.instructables.com/How-to-Remove-the-Battery-From-a-Denon-Envaya-Mini/
@@TigerDave D'oh!! I just finished replacing the battery and now I've found your instructions...! Great job by the way ;)
@@JeanV1986 how did you deal with the wires and connector that come out of the stock battery? Also, where did you buy the replacement?
@@TigerDave I just ordered a regular 18650 cell, a Panasonic I already used in a vacuum cleaner. It should be 3200 mAh and it cost me 4,5€. No protection circuit, but you don't need one as the built-in battery has one. You have to carefully cut the plastic housing and harvest the circuitry, and then solder it on the new cell. Not very difficult, but be careful (don't short anything) and make sure to make it as thin as possible, for the is very little space to fit the battery. Another guy did the same here :yadi.sk/d/hNTtA_RdpGNSt
u still there? i wanna ask some questions
In meinem Fall habe ich einen Denon Enavay DSB-50BT, auf den der Akku auch dann entladen ist, wenn Sie ihn (theoretisch) vollständig aufgeladen lassen. Selbst wenn Sie ihn nicht verwenden, wird er nach zwei Wochen entladen sein. Wenn es frisch geladen ist, fällt es mit der Dauer seiner Batterie zusammen, die der Mini vor mir ist. In Amazon gibt es mehrere Berichte über Batteriefehler dieser Art und es scheint, dass ohne Lösung. Hatten Sie diese Symptome vor und / oder nach der Änderung?
Bei meinem DSB-100 beträgt die Laufzeit nach ca. 1,5 Jahren nur noch 10-15 Minuten. Daher plane ich, den Austausch zu wagen. Das Panasonic-Modell mit Lötfahnen wäre dann sicherlich die passendste Variante?
Die angelötete Elektronik müsste sich doch auch an den Austausch-Akku anlöten lassen - oder übersehe ich da etwas?
Ich würde gerne etwas fragen: Nach einigen Monaten oder Jahren Laufzeit wird sich doch die Leistung des Li-Ion Akkus merklich verringern - denkst Du also dass dann ein Akkutausch auch eher nicht möglich wäre? Was ist Deine Einschätzung dazu? Danke schon mal für dieses Video!
Also, es ist ja klar, was für ein Akku verbaut ist. Wenn man eben einen Akku austauscht, dann geht das nur unter dem Risiko, dass man nicht weiß in wie weit die Ladeschaltung auf den fremden Akku abgestimmt ist. Im schlimmsten Fall kann es zur Überhitzung und Akkubrand kommen mit allen möglichen drastischen Folgen. Was anderes darf ich als E-Techniker dazu nicht schreiben.
Amp type ?
Thanks for the reply. Makes sense, would be interesting to see if a 2900mAh panasonic 18650PD(high current) would work better .
Maybe I'll try someday when the battery in my Envaya mini is old.
Can i get the side rubber covers of Envaya Mini...existing side covers are getting cracks.
look sturdy.
umm hey sir, wanna ask flex cable at 1:46, what's the cable for? coz i ripped off the cable what will happen to the speaker?
NFC antenna - if you rip it off you'll probably not be able to pair your phone by touching the speaker anymore (normal pairing should still work).
Very good video.
I see the 18650 is 2600mAh.
Maybe it would be possible to put a higher capacity 18650 in the speaker like a Panasonic 3400mAh to extend run time?
Matt Hoyle
Hi Matt,
I already tried a 3400mAh battery in an onther speaker and there was only a improvement of 10 percent.
Because the 3400mAh battery will give the energy down to lower voltage as the speaker is designed for.
These high capacity batteries are very good for RC cars or LED flashlight but not for the Denon Envaya Mini.
I am sorry.
Mark L. MLSensai
So what you're saying is that the speaker turns off at a certain voltage for battery protection, but when you put in a higher capacity battery it could have longer play time, but it doesn't because of that protection?
Mark L. MLSensai Are you familiar with problems with malfunctioning of this device, i was using for about 2 weeks, and i can not recharge it now? Bought from Argos UK.
I am sorry, but I have no deep detailed knowledge about the Envaya Mini.
+Matt Hoyle I put Panasonic 3400mAh, win - just over 20%. Earlier in the fully discharged Denon when loading flows into 2500mAh, it is now - about 3050mAh. If it were possible to put 2x3400mAh, then the payoff would be substantial. But there is no place ...)))
Hallo. Ich habe diese Lautsprecher, aber die Platine, an der Sie den Lade-USB anschließen, ist beschädigt. Können Sie die USB-Anschlüsse detaillierter zeigen, um zu versuchen, den Micro-USB-Anschluss zu ersetzen? Vielen Dank
Спасибо!
Познавательное,но,не подробное видео.
Хотелось бы увидеть аккумуляторную батарею Denon Mini,узнать её размеры и мощность в миллиамперах...
К сожалению у меня его больше нет и не хотелось его полностью разбирать. Я хотел показать, как открыть динамик, не повредив его.
(
Leider habe ich es nicht mehr und wollte es nicht komplett zerlegen. Ich wollte zeigen, wie man den Lautsprecher öffnet, ohne ihn zu beschädigen.)
@@Miniklangwunder
Всё равно ваше видео очень информативное,не удаляйте его,пусть висит на ютубе,я пересматривал много раз!
Спасибо за ответ!
Cooles Video. Wie sind Deiner Erfahrungen mit der Akku-Laufzeit?
Gruß Andi
Wenn der DEM auf max. halber Lautstärke am Lautsprecher selbst eingestellt ist, sind knapp 9 Stunden möglich. Sonst sind max. 6 Stunden realistisch.
Guter Lautsprecher - und der beschissenste Akku, den man sich vorstellen kann. Was Denon sich dabie gedacht hat, weiß ich nicht. Der Lautsprecher wird zurzeit von meinen Eltern benutzt, Die Laufzeit beträgt maximal 20 Min. Spricht etwas dagegen, ihn permanent am Ladekabel zu lassen?
Let me ask the Denon pin mini envaya fact few hours? I use 2/3 of the volume that is only 5 hours, I am very disappointed
Hi, yes it is true. The DEM is very special. It has 100 volume steps. If you set it to volume level above 60 the power consumption is somehow at maximum even if you play only very quite with volume level 1 of 16 with e.g. Android device. More than 6 hours playtime re not possible.
If you set on the DEM level 50 as maximum an then you only use your player to change the volume, then the playtime will be extended to 9 hours.
There is a sevond possibility why your playtime is not satisfying. It seems, that some production charges have problems with the battery management. There are some cases where the DEM plays only short time till it won't start anymore.
Maybe this could help you.
Best regards
Mark
+Mark L. MLSensai “MLSensai” Thank you very much, I like the sound of it, but the battery capacity is not, it is too weak. How do you help me fix it?
Wonder if those drivers fit in a SoundLink Mini? They sure looks very alike except cone design!
Guess they have a little better treble dispersion with their center dome design. You could then Frankenstein the ultimate portable speaker :D Combine the best of both worlds.
You didn't very well show the battery. Is it just one or two standard 18650 wrapped with a protective IC? If so then would be very easy to rebuild pack when it needs. Also if they've chosen low capacity 2300 mAh cells like Bose then you could exchange them for some 3400 mAh Panasonic or 3500 mAh LG to get much longer runtime.
+HifiCentret Haha nice Idea, I would definitely try this if I had the money...
does anyone know where to buy the charge port/electronic board of this envaya mini model? (online)
Hi
ich habe die gleiche Bluetooth Box aber seid heute morgen Leuchtet die Box Rot (Akku) und auf der anderre Seite Weiß es blinkt aber nicht es bleibt einfach an auschalten kann ich es auch nicht
Könntest du die Folie, die da drüber war, eventuell mal auf wasserdichtigkeit testen?
Das war keine Folie sondern Stoff. Der ist nicht wasserdicht. Ist eher ein Staubschutz und hält vereinzelt Spritzwassertropfen auf. 😉
Mittlerweile habe Ich einen neuen Stoff drunter, in Rot. Sieht mega geil aus.
Hm.. also denkst du, dass ich den Lautsprecher beim Duschen nicht direkt neben die Wanne stellen sollte?
Da würde ich auf Nummer sicher gehen und den etwas weiter wegstellen. Der hat zwar innen überall Dichtgummis, dennoch wirbt der Hersteller ja nicht mit Wasser- Beständigkeit.
Leggo che molti hanno avuto lo stesso problema batteria! Bene, io ho modificato il tutto alloggiando una Lion con protezione e controllo termico, controllo sul sovraccarico e sul caricamento e scaricamento ecc., da 3,7v da ben 8800mah!
tagliando con un cutter gli spessori in plastica che tengono la batteria nell'alloggiamento, sono riuscito a mettere la nuova batteria, che come dite in molti è un filo piu' lunga, e non siete riusciti a metterla. Basta modificare poco il cabinet. ora la mia Denon, che prima era morta, dura anche piu' di 12 ore ;)prima in 30min era scarica.... notate bene, il problema che si crea (bruciature dei condensatori smd, surriscaldamenti ecc) è dovuto alla scarsa batteria che usano mettere di fabbrica. ed è lei che danneggia anche lo speaker e non solo la durata scarsissima di ascolto. Cambiate subito batteria, ancora quando è nuovo il prodotto. costo della nuova batteria 4 € ;) fate un po' voi i vostri conti ;)
Nel rimontare il tutto, fate molta attenzione ai passaggi. Per quanto riguarda la tela acustica, fissatela da un lato con del nastro isolante sottile, fatela scorrere all'interno della griglia metallica in modo che non si stacchi e rimanga attaccata bene al bordo, una volta entrata tutta nella griglia, mandate avanti di 1 cm lo speaker e togliete il nastro, il gioco è fatto. La mia non sembra mai stata aperta, come nuova. con una batteria finalmente performante.
Ciao a tutti e ciao al mitico Olev ;) è colpa tua se ho preso la denon e anche la mia preferita, la B&O S3 beoplay (dalla cina originale, 116 €) ;) ve lo consiglio l's3 per casa. Bomba
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ciao, ma hai dovuto saldare la batteria, io mi ritrovo con tre pin invece di due :S
Du siehst aus wie jemand der sich mit dem Teil gut auskennt. Meiner lädt auf einmal nicht mehr. Hab auch sonst keine Funktion mehr. Hast du nen Tipp?
@Stefan Arnautovic
da ist dann leider der Akku total platt.
Wenn du noch Gewährleistung hast, dann zum Händler und umtauschen. Das ist der sicherste Weg. Gruß Mark
Miniklangwunder MLSensai Danke. Ist ein halbes Jahr alt. Werd es umtauschen. Danke dir. 😌
How waterproof it is?
skaiam
In my opinion splash water should be no problem. You should not drop it deeply in water.
heavy rain its ok?
That I could not answer and I advise better not to test this. ;)
sind das 40mm speaker?
Das sin 37mm oder 38mm Chassis. Gruß
Weiß jemand warum bei meinem 250er eine LED Status Leuchte weniger leuchtet beim Batteriecheck
könnten die in die jbl Charge 2 passen?
Kannst du sowas nicht für den 250er machen...
Sorry, leider nein, da ich den nicht besitze.
Und ich dachte man könnte es auf den großen 250 von denon ubertragen
please give the name of the board , which is mini usb? entrance fee feeding
or photos from 2 sides of the board
писец как надо
+женя золотов Давай мыло, вышлю фото с торца, где micro usb и сверху на плату, куда этот разъем впаян.
speaker watss
remis S 20 watts