Behringer LmDrum: What You Need to Know Before You Buy - no playing, just talking! :-)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @synthfluencer
    @synthfluencer 6 дней назад +13

    Great video and helpful hints. I would add the following information: 1) Sample memory is limited to 14,17 MB 2) Samples cannot be deleted within the Synthtribe app, only directly in the unit 3) Synthtribe generates a temporary wav file for each sample you upload that will not automatically be deleted. They stack if you do a re-upload the same sample. 4) sample knob controls (snare tune, hihat decay etc) are stored on bank level, not on pattern level. I think some of these will be adressed in a future firmware, but for the time being it's worth to mention.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +2

      Thank you so much for this additional info! Yes, those *.tmp files drive me insane.

    • @Aetila
      @Aetila 6 дней назад

      Du you mean 14 Mb per sample or available in the LmDrum? Even my Casio watch fro the eighties has larger memory... :-)

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +2

      ⁠@@AetilaIt's 1Mb per sample, which is quite a lot for single shots samples unless you're a fan of crash cymbals! There's apparently a limit of 14Mb but I don't know if it's per bank or globally.

    • @Aetila
      @Aetila 5 дней назад

      @
      I see, thanks!
      I mean, it sounds like nothing. What if you want to use other sounds, for fun and sound FX? A user bank with tons of different sets, sounds, at highest quality can easily be large so I thought they would put in tons of memory, especially now, when it's cheap like dirt, lol. Depending on the user memory size, if it's small I won't buy it.

    • @synthfluencer
      @synthfluencer 5 дней назад +3

      ​@@gcoudert @Aetila It reads on page 23 of the current manual "The total storage available for user samples, whether made direct to the LM DRUM or downloaded from SynthTribe is 14.17 Mb; which equates to 310 seconds (5.16 minutes) of sample time." Either nostalgia has gone wrong here or Behringer will keep some improvements for future FW updates. Or there is another drum/sampler in the works and they want to lift buyer groups. No idea.

  • @scottall71
    @scottall71 День назад +1

    I've been watching a lot of videos on this. I'm on the pre-order waiting list and cannot wait till I can start using it! You really gave a lot of good explanation here. So many of these devices it takes a while just to figure out the basics ie: the file importing, how banks are organized, etc You put us in the right ball park here 😎👍

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  День назад

      Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found the video helpful.

  • @riloh58
    @riloh58 3 дня назад +1

    Very useful information. Thank you.

  • @GarethThomasTunes
    @GarethThomasTunes 6 дней назад +3

    This is exactly the sort of information I’m after when considering buying an electronic instrument . The structural concepts and logic behind the device.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +1

      Thanks! These are things I too wish I'd known before buying it. I'd still have bought it, mind you! Please note that I made a mistake when I said the tunings were saved with the Patterns; I am told they're apparently saved with the Banks but I haven't checked.

    • @paulking3863
      @paulking3863 4 дня назад

      @@GarethThomasTunes Thanks a lot for that. Yes, Would be best to save just to that song as you might need to tune it back. Guess you can’t have everything 🥹Thanks again.

  • @easychats
    @easychats 5 дней назад +3

    Well, firstly Thank you. That was Brilliant and very useful for myself. I’ve been struggling with a few things so I appreciate your personal time and simple explanation and also amazing diagrams. The official Behringer video (Part 2) is excellent, but if you follow it to the letter it leaves a lot out in-between what he’s doing and I kept doing factory reset incase I’d changed anything whilst experimenting. Thank you again.

  • @herberdth
    @herberdth 4 дня назад +1

    Other "important" things are that each kind of drum soundgroup has differences in their analogue circuitry.
    Different filtering (if any), different envelope (if any), "random" start point (closed hihat if I remember correctly).
    Some of the original samples had an almost silent "pre-delay" to make them match better in the mix, which also gave it a "groovy" feel.
    This is not simply a sample player, if you swap the samples around you will get differences.
    Bass drum is low pass filtered and the envelope changes this while playing a step. So the sample you load into a bass drum slot will not sound exactly like the sample.
    Hihat samples are looped constantly to make it more random, the ADSR envelope is whats triggered at the beginning of a step. Closed v.s. Open is just how the envelope is set up. If you trigger a closed hihat while an open is still playing it will have different transients since the analogue circuit has not decharged it's capacitors yet. This is part of the soul of the LM1.
    Linn drums don't have reconstruction filter, so there will be aliasing artifacts. The DAC is not perfect, it's a 15 piece approximation of the 8 bit mylaw curve. (so 15 linear lines between 16 points instead of the accurate conversion).
    This is again part of the LM-1 soul.

  • @tonye9045
    @tonye9045 4 дня назад +1

    Some great tips, thanks very much.

  • @ReginaldReggSmith
    @ReginaldReggSmith 4 дня назад +1

    Great info!

  • @marctronixx
    @marctronixx 4 дня назад +2

    great video - do you have a link to the 3.5mm individual out cables you recommend?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  4 дня назад

      I wouldn't say I recommend them as such but I didn't want to spend a fortune on 15 audio cables and these were cheaper than the ones I found on Amazon at the time. They are 2m long, by the way. They do have other lengths too.
      Here's the link: www.kenable.co.uk/en/audio-/audio-cables/jack-to-jack-35mm-cables/8905-35mm-mono-jack-plug-to-635mm-mono-jack-plug-cable-2m-008905-5055383489053.html

  • @isham16
    @isham16 4 дня назад +1

    Nice to read positive messages on this useful video. Internet can be kind sometimes!

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  4 дня назад +1

      So true!

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  4 дня назад +1

      I'm also a ruthless censor! 😂

  • @pietromaffei7682
    @pietromaffei7682 5 дней назад +1

    Thanks a lot for this very insightful video. I found this particularly useful, especially the part were the same sample is assigned to different pads with variation in volume or the closed and open hats taken from the same sample. In the beginning I assumed that with 16 pads you get 16 individual samples to play with but it isn't so. After watching your video I guess I will hold a bit more before buying the LM Drum if buying it at all. Thanks again !

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      You're very welcome!

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei 4 дня назад +1

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @80sJayOfficial
    @80sJayOfficial 5 дней назад +2

    What a great video. You should also add any feature requests or future improvements you have as I bet behringer will see this video.

  • @N0B0DY_SP3C14L
    @N0B0DY_SP3C14L 5 дней назад +1

    Most informative and well presented. I am tempted to pick one up, and I already have the Linn samples in my MPC1k, so I probably won't need one of these boxes for the moment, but it does seem like it could be fun to play.

  • @74goldenjet
    @74goldenjet 5 дней назад +1

    Is the Round Robin feature of the original hihat circuit included? Does it tune the drums like the original, or does it tune them like an ordinary sampler?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      Yes! Essentially, the idea is that all high-hat samples should be open high hats. The LmDrum grabs a snippet of it for the closed hi-hat and its length is determined by the position of the 'Hi-Hat Decay' knob on the top panel. The starting position of this snippet is randomised and the 'Random Cl Hat' parameter can be adjusted under MENU --> Options.
      Regarding your second question, I read somewhere (online, for what it's worth) that the samples are tuned using the same method as on the originals but please don't quote me on that as I don't know for certain. The manual does not mention this at all.

    • @74goldenjet
      @74goldenjet 5 дней назад +1

      @gcoudert thank you very much :) These 2 features make the unit much more attractive, imo.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      Yes, I had doubts to begin with but, after trying it with a number of open hi-hat samples from several classic drum machines, I realised that this system works very well.

  • @paulking3863
    @paulking3863 5 дней назад +1

    If I tune drums are they automatically stored in my song or do I have to store to bank?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      Tunings are saved with the Bank, not with the Pattern or Song, despite what I wrote in my PowerPoint. I have just tested this for you: for example, if you change the tuning of the snare in the LM-2 Bank in one song, all patterns that use that same Bank will play that snare at the same pitch, no matter what Song they're in. I hope this is something that Behringer can fix. Pattern-level tunings would make more sense.

  • @byronvisiado09
    @byronvisiado09 6 дней назад +2

    Thanks for the breakdown and tips!

  • @donadoma
    @donadoma 4 дня назад +1

    Awesome. Thank you! 👍

  • @NicolasMelis
    @NicolasMelis 5 дней назад +1

    great video ! thank you for the info

  • @wehappyfewmusic
    @wehappyfewmusic 6 дней назад +1

    Great video! Do you know if it’s possible to edit your drum beats directly on the machine after you’ve performed them? For example if you wanted to delete an out of time kick drum. Thanks

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +3

      Yes. If you hold TAP (that button again!) and and instrument selection button (between the volume and panning sliders), that instrument will be erased. Alternatively, you can switch to step edit mode and manually remove the notes you don't want. The LmDrum needs to be in record mode either way. Hope this helps.

    • @wehappyfewmusic
      @wehappyfewmusic 6 дней назад +2

      @ brilliant, thanks! Thats really helpful.
      Another question if that’s okay. Is it possible to match the tempo of a drum loop sample to the tempo of the track, or do you have to do it by ear.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +2

      @@wehappyfewmusicNo problem at all. Again, if you tap the TAP button repeatedly to the rythm of the song, the tempo will match. Feel free to ask if you have more questions!

    • @wehappyfewmusic
      @wehappyfewmusic 6 дней назад +1

      @ that tap button really is your friend, that’s awesome!🤩
      I may be back in a bit but thanks a million so far. I had the first go on my LM drum yesterday and ran into a few road blocks. 😆

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +2

      Apart from a Roland R8 I had for a short time 15 or so years ago, I hadn't owned a drum machine since the 1980s so it took me a while to get my head round this one! And the LmDrum's manual is typical of today's operating guides: it tells you what each button, knob and slider does but not HOW to do things.

  • @karljroe
    @karljroe 5 дней назад +2

    Thank you . Super clear& helpful .
    If you get a chance to explain swing & flam in another video … that would be great . Thanks a lot

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +2

      I haven't looked at flam yet but, regarding swing, you can select a global swing/shuffle value for even-numbered steps (i.e. the second and fourth semiquaver of each beat) of between 25 and 75, 50 being no swing at all. Values 25 to 49 will make those steps play a little earlier - which sounds weird to me - and values 51 to 75 will push them back in time. To access the swing parameter, you hold the TAP button and turn the Tempo knob until the lower right-hand side corner of the display shows the swing icon. Then you adjust it as you wish. I love the 55% setting; it feels just right to me!

    • @karljroe
      @karljroe 5 дней назад +1

      @@gcoudert​​⁠nice one . I remember the originals swing being a bit of a game changer too , at the time , so your suggestion of 55% is making sense . Will give it a try 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @moogfooger
    @moogfooger 6 дней назад +2

    thank you so much for all the hard work and detail. I amvery ecited to get mine. Cheers

  • @DoctorRazzArea4
    @DoctorRazzArea4 5 дней назад +1

    Thanks for your video! I have on of these on preorder. Just a question, how do you feel about the workflow/ease of use? I'm buying this partly because I HATE navigating through screens, and this seems like one of the most efficient layouts for making drum patterns. How does it compare to similar modern drum machines and old ones as far as ease of use? I would expect it to be near the top. Also, do you think it would be easy to sample a drum loop and then get it to be perfectly looped on the LmDrum, or is it limited to specific BPMS, making it impossible to perfectly fit a drum loop into a pattern to supplement with other samples?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      It's easy to use once you've got your head round it. There is still a little bit of menu diving to do but it's pretty minimal compared with some of my other gear (it's not as straightforward as the Prophet-5 but it's no Kronos either!), to be honest, as there isn't much in those menus anyway. The main sample-related parameters are on the screen all the time so you just need to navigate through them with the arrow keys. I have no experience of MPCs so I can't compare.
      Likewise, I wish I could compare the LmDrum with other drum machines but this is the first modern one I've owned; I'd only ever owned 1980s machines before the LmDrum.
      As far as I can tell, tempo values in bpm can only be whole numbers so, in my opinion, whilst you can still record, trim, loop and play a loop, you might not be able to sync it correctly if its bpm is not a round number. Maybe someone can prove me wrong here.
      I hope this helps!

  • @titovalasques
    @titovalasques 5 дней назад +1

    This was suuuper helpful! Thank you! 🙏
    Would you happen to know if you for some reason you wanted to restore the original LM-1 snare you replaced, is there a possibility to do so through the music tribe app from some online repository or would it be lost forever unless you made the effort to save it yourself?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      You can't delete the factory samples as they are locked. I can revert back to the original snare by going into PADS mode, selecting any of the three Snare pads and turning the main data knob to select the sample from the list in order to assign it to the three Snare pads. Hope this makes sense!

    • @titovalasques
      @titovalasques 5 дней назад +1

      @ Wow! Thank you so much for the response, mate! 🖖

  • @WillieFourMilli
    @WillieFourMilli 5 дней назад +2

    thanks for breaking this down!

  • @Mikefestiva
    @Mikefestiva 6 дней назад +3

    Really helpful detailed video! Thank you. I’m really interested in the sample feature, sampling from records and other audio sources. I have been using an MPC 2000XL since they first came out 20 plus years ago. This seems like a really simple and flexible sampling drum machine. Looking forward to more videos about it. Thanks 👍

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +2

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @user-rv8wb1nl1b
      @user-rv8wb1nl1b 5 дней назад +2

      you would LOVE a newer MPC , i sold ALL my legacy MPC's for a Live and an X . They rule .

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      @@user-rv8wb1nl1bI'm extremely old school, as you will have noticed if you checked out my channel. I'm not sure that an MPC, which is an amazing machine in its own right, would find a place in my workflow.

  • @foundatsea3483
    @foundatsea3483 5 дней назад +1

    Hello from Boston, great vid, ver helpful. Can't wait to get mine! How sensitive are the volume faders? Build quality feel good? thx

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +2

      They're just about right in my opinion. They're smooth and responsive enough, as are the panning faders. I am less impressed with the velocity response of the pads. As I explained in the video, you have to hit them pretty hard. If I need velocity, I will use a controller keyboard from now on. Greetings from England!

  • @randydarklight
    @randydarklight 5 дней назад +2

    One year later: The 80s Fan found a Snare in the LmDrum.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      A snare? Where?! 😂

  • @WrvrUgoThrUR
    @WrvrUgoThrUR 6 дней назад +2

    One man’s “dark and boomy” is another man’s reason for buying the gear😂 but great run-through. Very helpful. I don’t get mine until Feb.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад

      Absolutely! I will probably use that original sample too when the opportunity arises. It's just not very... 'pleasant' to my own ears. ☺️

  • @matskalski
    @matskalski 5 дней назад +1

    I just discovered your channel ! I,surely love it . new subscriber here !!

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      Welcome!! This particular video is very much a one-off though. I only do instrumental covers, normally.

  • @alicelaranjeira3127
    @alicelaranjeira3127 6 дней назад +2

    Congrats. Very useful video.

  • @sumgiimusic8147
    @sumgiimusic8147 5 дней назад +1

    Thank you . Great video

  • @jaysidd
    @jaysidd 5 дней назад +1

    Great video, thank you.

  • @paulking3863
    @paulking3863 5 дней назад +1

    Thanks a lot!

  • @SG1980s
    @SG1980s 6 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the helpful video!

  • @pablopicasso7343
    @pablopicasso7343 5 дней назад +1

    This is really helpful!

  • @peterfuzz3887
    @peterfuzz3887 5 дней назад +1

    any fx / reverb /delay on board ?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      Only a two-parameter compressor (the so-called Wave Designer) and an analogue filter with resonance that can be toggled between low pass and high pass. No delay or reverb.

    • @peterfuzz3887
      @peterfuzz3887 5 дней назад +1

      @@gcoudert ok, ! and If you apply some reverb with external pedal direct on outs, is it possible to reinject into the input (or this one only for sampling) ?

    • @peterfuzz3887
      @peterfuzz3887 5 дней назад +1

      ahah je viens de déduire que tu es francophone... réinjecter les sorties dans l'entrée audio je disais :)

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      I'm pretty sure it won't play and sample at the same time, internally or externally. I guess you'd have to record the output into a DAW or whatever , process it and record/import the resulting audio into the LmDrum.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      Oui, mais je ne crois pas qu'il soit possible de sampler pendant qu'un pattern joue. Il faudrait que j'essaie.

  • @kennyyellop
    @kennyyellop 6 дней назад +1

    thanks

  • @PsychologyAcademia
    @PsychologyAcademia 5 дней назад +1

    Not a Roger Linn Fan?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +2

      I'm a huge fan but I can't afford any of his machines and I'm sick to death of those videos about his reaction to Behringer's LmDrum - whether he's right or wrong - and the whole Behringer debate. This is the next best thing for the rest of us! ☺️

    • @PsychologyAcademia
      @PsychologyAcademia 5 дней назад

      @@gcoudert How do you think he feels?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      Annoyed.

    • @leftmono1016
      @leftmono1016 5 дней назад +3

      @@PsychologyAcademia- Linn probably feels a bit silly that he didn’t jump on the vintage synth revival band wagon many years ago.
      He’s had at least 10 years to see this coming.

  • @andy80sdrums
    @andy80sdrums 5 дней назад +1

    USB multitrack recording is what it lacks!

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      Most definitely! That would make my life easier!

  • @XLL38_0
    @XLL38_0 6 дней назад +1

    Thank you for this. This is gold. I'm getting this sometime this year. Depending on availablility and my finances. Subscribed btw :) Keep it up.

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +1

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @petauxoeufnono5827
    @petauxoeufnono5827 6 дней назад +3

    Cet homme a tous les talents! Vlà qu'il parle américain avec un accent londonien ! Merci pour la vidéo, cette petite boîte me fait de l'oeil car ma Linn est depuis son achat à l'époque, une saloperie qui tombe en panne coup sur coup et le coût.... J'ai du payer 3x sa valeur en réparations car les machines américaines ont toujours été extrêmement bien distribuées en France.

  • @Dingdongbillybong
    @Dingdongbillybong 5 дней назад +1

    I'll wait a couple years.That's the one thing I know

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      It can certainly do with some tweaking. You might even be able to pick one up for an even better price in 2 years' time, who knows. Or it could become the new Holy Grail! 😂

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 5 дней назад +2

      well if you live in the US its gonna take another year before any retailer has them available anyway

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад +1

      Oh really? That long? 😳

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 5 дней назад +1

      @ only one store here has them and they are backordered until June, and usually this stuff gets pushed back 4 or 5 more times

    • @marctronixx
      @marctronixx 4 дня назад

      @@zachary_attackery if you go to guitar center, they should have them in stock on feb 10. Initially i pre-ordered with guitar center but realized Andertons in the uk would ship to the US AND they had stock! it was also a few dollars cheaper as well. i cancelled the GC order and now i have the machine from andertons.

  • @stcezaire06
    @stcezaire06 6 дней назад +1

    L'audio de cette video est très bon , malgré mon pauvre anglais , j'ai a peu prés tout compris
    je ne suis pas fan du commentaire de frenkfrenk4142 ? s'il a l'argent pour se payer une LinnDrum à je sais même pas le prix actuel en occasion (5000 ....10 000E?) tant mieux pour lui et j'imagine même pas les PB de maintenance de ces vieilles machines
    Cette Behringer me plait bien ....je réflechi pour l'achat

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  6 дней назад +1

      Merci! J'ai essayé de montrer les quelques petites limitations / restrictions de la machine que j'ai trouvées ces derniers jours et j'espère que j'ai réussi!

    • @stcezaire06
      @stcezaire06 6 дней назад +1

      @@gcoudert oui

  • @Klaas-g3t
    @Klaas-g3t 5 дней назад +1

    Are you Timothy Snyder?

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      Nope! Who's he?!

    • @Klaas-g3t
      @Klaas-g3t 5 дней назад

      @@gcoudert de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Snyder

    • @Klaas-g3t
      @Klaas-g3t 5 дней назад +1

      @@gcoudert en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Snyder

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  5 дней назад

      I'm two years older and my field of study was English Linguistics! I wish I had his money though! 😂😂😂

  • @stcezaire06
    @stcezaire06 День назад +1

    je suis pas fan de ces videos américaines mais y'a qq chose
    ruclips.net/video/EBaFGwSLQl8/видео.htmlsi=45AMpEc2Wi9w3N-V

    • @gcoudert
      @gcoudert  День назад

      Oui, je l'ai vue aussi, celle-là. Je suis abonné à la chaîne.