@9:55 (1181n: 6-layers of cotton is minimum, but no adjustments to tension were made. Just out-of the-box capability?). FWIW: Sewing Gold has a video or two showing adjustments for lightweight material, including reducing the takeup spring tension or stroke (I forget which. The instruction manual shows both adjustments). He gets a couple of layers working pretty good with light thread. I was at my local distributor's store a couple weeks ago and it sewed (top to bottom) 2 layers of poly poplin (thin, slippery finish), thin batting, Pellon 50 stiffener, thin batting on bottom. It sewed that really well with t40 poly thread. Had to reduce the presser foot pressure, and thread tension. There's more adjustments that might make it work better. But, it seemed fine. It would be interesting to see a video pushing the 1181n to its extremes. Goldstar has a video showing the 1181n sewing ridiculously thick/heavy/hard webbing (in his video it looks like the presser foot height should be adjusted (it's not going 15mm like you show in your video. He struggles to get it under the foot. Maybe for dramatic effect. "Look how thick this is." It looks like the foot isn't as high as it could be.). There's quite a few adjustments that could make the 1181 handle thin material. It would be interesting to see that. (I'm drawn to the 1181 for that capability. There seems to be a gap between home/consumer models using the "attachment" walking foot - which works ok, and a real walking foot machine. Those seem to be upholstery-leather oriented. If you're doing layer of thin material and want a real walking foot (for better feed), the 1181 seems to be the only choice. Most videos talk about how thick/heavy it can go. Not how thin/light.).
Thanks so much for this video! I'm looking to add a walking foot to my arsenal for upholstery and this video laid out the differences so clearly! Making the choice so much easier!
i dont know how to sew but i have 3 classic cars that need uhpolstered and i think learning to do this will save me a ton of money and I learn a new skill
There are machines; including ones by juki, that are designed for car upholstery; I would consider looking into those but I definitely can't vouch for the quality as I'm more of a fashion sewing girlie... Good luck with your sewing journey ^w^
Just curious if these two machines can be specifically tuned to much lighter materials by changing the thread size, bobbin tension, and top tension? It seems like the bunching comes from the thread, bobbin tension, and top tension not being set to the material. A tuning video would be helpful to see how good you can get it to work on light materials and thread at the bottom of their range - because I’m very interested in both of these machines, but need to know more about their real versatility.
@@JukiJunkies That's helpful. I guess what I'm trying to get down to is; What's possible with these machines if you tune them well to the material you're sewing -- is it possible to get them to go above or below their stated ranges in thread size and material weight. As in, could you tune the 1541 to do a TEX-30 thread with a thin material like a nylon taslan like you might see in a sleeping bag, and do a nice stitch, or is that just not possible?
@@dixonbuttes6564 I get where you're coming from. I want to do material that's more in the range of home/consumer machine, but layers (and batting) which makes even feeding problematic without a walking foot. (Home machines have a "attachement" walking foot which works ok. I'd like to do better with a real walking foot. The "attachment" pinches the fabric to the feed dogs and jacks the foot up a bit. It "walks" in a sense, but not like a real one.). SewingGold has a video or two showing an 1181 adjusted for light fabric. It involves less takeup spring tension, maybe less takeup-spring stroke too. Less thread tension too. I tested an 1181 at my local dealer's shop a couple weeks ago and it worked really well with tex-40 and two layers of light/slippery poly poplin, and some thin batting (on the bottom; still fed well with the top helping it along). Juki's instruction manual shows other adjustments that could help with lighter fabric. (The manual's difficult because it shows 7 languages side-by-side for 101 pages. I edited a copy down to english-only 31 pages. Much easier to peruse.).
Now I’m wondering if the 1181 is better for me. I had my eye on the 1541s. But… i probably won’t be doing that dense leather. Mostly layers of denim, low to high to low seams… bag making using repurposed jeans.
Do you only sell Juki sewing machines? I’m interested in one that does straight and zigzag but unfortunately Juki with that option is costs way too much than I can afford !
Hello. I have a question regarding the Knee Lift - is it adjustable (would need to lower, since I’m 4’10”) to accommodate the diff knee height of sewist. Thank you
Can the 1181 sew through two layers of marine vinyl? I saw a few videos from people using multiple layers of tpu and it looks like 1181 struggled a bit. Trying to decide what to save for.
Thanks I guess I need to look, further than I did. I think the larger 1545s is the one I want. Although cylinder arm with the flat bed, is what my brain wants.
@@barbarahautsch7232 FWIW: I'm going to buy a used 1181 from my local distributor. He said a bag maker had bought it and wasn't happy. He said that's common. "They want to save money, and think it will work. After some time they trade up to the... (I forgot which model)."
Can the bobbin also use the same # thread as the top. Or do you have to use say for example a Tex45 in bobbin and use a Tex70 on the top thread. Thank you
@@JukiJunkies unfortunately, the cc option is not always available. I think it has to do with how the video was made (but I’m not sure). Thank you for trying and being aware.
Buy the Juki 1541S because it's more powerful to handle heavier materials (e.g. thicker levels of leather, etc.). Also, buy a 750w brushless servo motor to use with it.
@@JukiJunkiesI have. Haruka tl 18 so would you go with the 1541 ? I do bags sometime I used interfaced cotton on them too could it be done on that machine ?
How does one live with an oil pan in the home ? It has odors from oil fumes, that coats the lungs, allergies ? Pets, babys, disabled-asthma , bronchitis, emphazima, elderly. 🤺💐
I don't have an 1181 yet. I wouldn't think the oil pan would matter. I have a Consew 146RB which drips oil onto a pain. A Singer 201 which drips oil onto a pan too. They're not closed systems. The whole shaft assembly underneath is oiled and exposed, drips. (The needle-bar & takeup bearings are not enclosed well. The oil's fairly exposed to the air.). The oil is odorless. It's essentially mineral oil (which isn't toxic. I use Juki No 1 oil. I've seen others buying "Lily White" oil cheaper.). Being industrial machines, workplace safety (OSHA) is a top priority. If there was some inhalation risk, there would be warnings plastered all over about using the machine in a well-ventilated area. I just finished reading the 1181 instruction manual. Didn't see a single mention.
@@antserI'm in Sweden, we use metric, which should be more logical, accept size 20 thread is double the thickness as size 40 thread - because sewing stuff is a mess. 😆
@9:55 (1181n: 6-layers of cotton is minimum, but no adjustments to tension were made. Just out-of the-box capability?). FWIW: Sewing Gold has a video or two showing adjustments for lightweight material, including reducing the takeup spring tension or stroke (I forget which. The instruction manual shows both adjustments). He gets a couple of layers working pretty good with light thread.
I was at my local distributor's store a couple weeks ago and it sewed (top to bottom) 2 layers of poly poplin (thin, slippery finish), thin batting, Pellon 50 stiffener, thin batting on bottom. It sewed that really well with t40 poly thread. Had to reduce the presser foot pressure, and thread tension. There's more adjustments that might make it work better. But, it seemed fine. It would be interesting to see a video pushing the 1181n to its extremes. Goldstar has a video showing the 1181n sewing ridiculously thick/heavy/hard webbing (in his video it looks like the presser foot height should be adjusted (it's not going 15mm like you show in your video. He struggles to get it under the foot. Maybe for dramatic effect. "Look how thick this is." It looks like the foot isn't as high as it could be.). There's quite a few adjustments that could make the 1181 handle thin material. It would be interesting to see that. (I'm drawn to the 1181 for that capability. There seems to be a gap between home/consumer models using the "attachment" walking foot - which works ok, and a real walking foot machine. Those seem to be upholstery-leather oriented. If you're doing layer of thin material and want a real walking foot (for better feed), the 1181 seems to be the only choice. Most videos talk about how thick/heavy it can go. Not how thin/light.).
Excellent video. As always Juki Junkies are the best at educating us. I have a 1541s
Glad you like them!
David, Thank You very much for everything you for for juki owners.
Thank you for watching :)
Thanks so much for this video! I'm looking to add a walking foot to my arsenal for upholstery and this video laid out the differences so clearly! Making the choice so much easier!
Actually, there are a few places to oil the 1181n, in addition to the oil pan.
i dont know how to sew but i have 3 classic cars that need uhpolstered and i think learning to do this will save me a ton of money and I learn a new skill
Agree :)
There are machines; including ones by juki, that are designed for car upholstery; I would consider looking into those but I definitely can't vouch for the quality as I'm more of a fashion sewing girlie... Good luck with your sewing journey ^w^
Plus, you get a lot more choices in terms of what you can pick from
Just curious if these two machines can be specifically tuned to much lighter materials by changing the thread size, bobbin tension, and top tension? It seems like the bunching comes from the thread, bobbin tension, and top tension not being set to the material. A tuning video would be helpful to see how good you can get it to work on light materials and thread at the bottom of their range - because I’m very interested in both of these machines, but need to know more about their real versatility.
If you want to go lighter get the 1181. If you want lighter than what you saw with the 1181. Look into a 8700 H.
@@JukiJunkies That's helpful. I guess what I'm trying to get down to is; What's possible with these machines if you tune them well to the material you're sewing -- is it possible to get them to go above or below their stated ranges in thread size and material weight. As in, could you tune the 1541 to do a TEX-30 thread with a thin material like a nylon taslan like you might see in a sleeping bag, and do a nice stitch, or is that just not possible?
@@dixonbuttes6564 I get where you're coming from. I want to do material that's more in the range of home/consumer machine, but layers (and batting) which makes even feeding problematic without a walking foot. (Home machines have a "attachement" walking foot which works ok. I'd like to do better with a real walking foot. The "attachment" pinches the fabric to the feed dogs and jacks the foot up a bit. It "walks" in a sense, but not like a real one.). SewingGold has a video or two showing an 1181 adjusted for light fabric. It involves less takeup spring tension, maybe less takeup-spring stroke too. Less thread tension too.
I tested an 1181 at my local dealer's shop a couple weeks ago and it worked really well with tex-40 and two layers of light/slippery poly poplin, and some thin batting (on the bottom; still fed well with the top helping it along). Juki's instruction manual shows other adjustments that could help with lighter fabric. (The manual's difficult because it shows 7 languages side-by-side for 101 pages. I edited a copy down to english-only 31 pages. Much easier to peruse.).
I love my 1541s. ❤ With the right interfacing, I make 100% of my bags on it.
Love it
Hi I am thinking of getting the 1541 but here in the U.K. we can’t get the 1541s is the safety switch essential on this machine? Thank you in advance
Great info. Really looking for an industrial machine. I think the juki 1541S would be perfect
Thank you, love my Juki 1181N
I love JUKI 1541. it is amazing machine. thanks for great video. very informative. I love both juki's but 1541 is my love.
Exactly what I looking for… thank you so much.
You are welcome!
Please do a video on what all stitches the juki MO654DE serger can do .
Love my 1181. I have a compound feed cylinder arm, it’s overkill since I don’t sew leather.
It is a great machine :)
Now I’m wondering if the 1181 is better for me. I had my eye on the 1541s. But… i probably won’t be doing that dense leather. Mostly layers of denim, low to high to low seams… bag making using repurposed jeans.
If you’re stuck in between machines I would call us at 813-661-9000 so we can help make sure you get the best one (depending on your needs)
I didn’t hear of these two machines have an automatic thread cutter? Thank you for the videos!
They do have those options but they’re 3 times the price :)
Wondering...How slow will the Juki 1541 go? Every video I see of somebody using it, it seems way to fast for detailed leatherwork.
300 rpm check out this video to seeruclips.net/video/klX2lPQJuKU/видео.htmlsi=3QHlSzH4k34FT-GX
Do you only sell Juki sewing machines? I’m interested in one that does straight and zigzag but unfortunately Juki with that option is costs way too much than I can afford !
Dumb question... was wondering how many hours can you sew with the 1181 every day? Thanks, great video.
They are industrials made to sew all day/week long :)
Hello. I have a question regarding the Knee Lift - is it adjustable (would need to lower, since I’m 4’10”) to accommodate the diff knee height of sewist.
Thank you
Yes you can adjust that and the table as well :)
Thanks for sharing. How to change the timing for a different needle size?
You would have to bring it to a local mechanic.
The Juki instruction manual shows how.
Please do this kind of material try out for the DDL 9000C
Can the 1181 sew through two layers of marine vinyl? I saw a few videos from people using multiple layers of tpu and it looks like 1181 struggled a bit. Trying to decide what to save for.
How does a 3D purse maneuver under !181. Do things get caught under the head. Thank you.
i did a search in you tube. juki 1181 purse making and a bunch of bag maker videos came up talking and using the machine.
Thanks I guess I need to look, further than I did. I think the larger 1545s is the one I want. Although cylinder arm with the flat bed, is what my brain wants.
@@barbarahautsch7232 FWIW: I'm going to buy a used 1181 from my local distributor. He said a bag maker had bought it and wasn't happy. He said that's common. "They want to save money, and think it will work. After some time they trade up to the... (I forgot which model)."
Can the bobbin also use the same # thread as the top. Or do you have to use say for example a Tex45 in bobbin and use a Tex70 on the top thread. Thank you
you can put the 70 on top and bottom of both :)
Does the 1541 also rest in an oil pan like the 1181? At 1:42 when you open the 1541, I see oil dripping from the bottom of the machine.
It is a oil catch pan not a hole holding pan. Check out this to see more ruclips.net/video/iCPCq3qjUmk/видео.htmlsi=Jzipp-qYlqj79_3x
Hi can you use with 1541s 10 no. thread and up to 200 gauge needle?
What needle size were you using in these demos?
I wish I could watch, but I need it to be captioned for the hearing-impaired.
You can turn on captions in settings on RUclips :)
@@JukiJunkies unfortunately, the cc option is not always available. I think it has to do with how the video was made (but I’m not sure). Thank you for trying and being aware.
If you had a choice which one would you get?
I would pick the 1541 s if i had a Juki TL already.
Buy the Juki 1541S because it's more powerful to handle heavier materials (e.g. thicker levels of leather, etc.). Also, buy a 750w brushless servo motor to use with it.
@@JukiJunkiesI have. Haruka tl 18 so would you go with the 1541 ? I do bags sometime I used interfaced cotton on them too could it be done on that machine ?
Hi Is that possible to use 1181 for a silk project? Thanks
It would be too heavy for that. You would want a 8700 or TL or 9000c
How does one
live with an oil pan
in the home ?
It has odors
from oil fumes,
that coats the lungs,
allergies ? Pets, babys, disabled-asthma , bronchitis, emphazima, elderly.
🤺💐
One doesnt buy
one if it doesnt
fit there wants
or needs
@@JukiJunkies correct.
I thought I wanted one until
Ddd da... The oil.
Maybe unattached well, vented studio.
Tu
🤺💐
Do they both have an oil pan? If using in a poorly ventilated basement does that make one of these a bad buy?
@@joeschmidhofer2674 no.
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I don't have an 1181 yet. I wouldn't think the oil pan would matter. I have a Consew 146RB which drips oil onto a pain. A Singer 201 which drips oil onto a pan too. They're not closed systems. The whole shaft assembly underneath is oiled and exposed, drips. (The needle-bar & takeup bearings are not enclosed well. The oil's fairly exposed to the air.). The oil is odorless. It's essentially mineral oil (which isn't toxic. I use Juki No 1 oil. I've seen others buying "Lily White" oil cheaper.).
Being industrial machines, workplace safety (OSHA) is a top priority. If there was some inhalation risk, there would be warnings plastered all over about using the machine in a well-ventilated area. I just finished reading the 1181 instruction manual. Didn't see a single mention.
Can the 1181 sew up to 9/10oz leather?
I think that would be a little too thick...
@@JukiJunkies okay ty!
Juki du1481 video please
So torn on TL18 vs one of these
Give us a call and ask for David! Hopefully we can help you make the right choice :) 813-661-9000
I have the 1541. Your videos are very educational!
Thanks for the comment :)
135x17 and DPx17 is the same needle system. 😁
😂 and TEX 45 to 135, and the big boy TEX 35 all the way up to TEX 138! Well well … Trust me, I’m confused.
@@antserI'm in Sweden, we use metric, which should be more logical, accept size 20 thread is double the thickness as size 40 thread - because sewing stuff is a mess. 😆
@@Farmfield Another Swede here that also think the thread size is a bit messy!
@@AlexKall I'm so lazy I often just go with Gutermann Extra Strong to not have to spend half a day online trying to find something more fitting. 😁
Great video, but one can hear the lady talking in the background. Its distracting. Mute her out.
Sorry about that.
mute you