2:30 speaking of “teardown” I’ve heard people do nothing but tear down this 12 team tournament, how about some of y’all try steel manning it because I have a feeling that if they do switch up the format and next year they go by top 25 poll you’re only going to see the same programs year in and year out, you will never see teams like Boise State and Arizona state again, it will come down to the same teams every year. Which, then, in turn means, talent will not be spread out like it is now. Talent will become centralized and will start to hurt college football. Say 10 years from now. But if you keep the same format, it hurts the sec and the big 10 because all they do now is beat up on each other, so I don’t know how you fix this.
They should get rid of college rankings as a voting system. They need to just go off of record and tie breakers like the NFL does. Allow the conference Champions to get in just like the NFL and open the rest of the field to wild card spots. This would only work if they do not count the conference championship games as a win or loss.
When they asked Dan Lanning about it he said "it isn't supposed to be easy to win a national championship" so he basically embraced the toughest path to the championship.
I'm not saying Lanning lacks character, but the implication that him not bitching about it somehow makes him some righteous outlier? Totally laughable😂
I dont mind the sentiment as an Oregon fan, but TBH. Job's not done. If we cant beat the best why should we rely on someone else to do it for us? GO 🦆🦆🦆
respect that, the opposite approach to that can be seen w/ Lane Kiffin whining about potentially losing the SEC championship game and then losing the right to even play in the game when he would’ve been a lock to get in the CFP by making that game.
@@jsmithers.What was bad here? I don't think his complaints about the structure of the playoffs works on a short segment on this and I guess you can all these pretty mild takes but I don't see what was "bad"
@@1224taylor He says conference championship wins are overvalued, yet that is the same thing as a division winner being ranked higher than a non-division winner with a better record in the NFL...And we all like it that way.
Lol.hahaha yeah that's all we need is another sec and big 10 homer! Get rid of the committee! And adopt a real playoff system! Follow division 2 and 3 models and produce a real champion! What are all these talking heads afraid of!
All they have to do is, put conference champion in but not a guarantee bye. Reseed schools after first round & make second round a campus game as well..
Good discussion....Oregon will likely face Ohio State yet again, Texas in Texas, and Georgia in Atlanta....Brutally criminal and where is the reward for being undefeated? If Oregon can win all 3 they will historically have the most brutal path to a championship. Oregon also will go down as one of the best if they do
“PAC12 teams suck” “PAC12 teams couldn’t handle being in real conferences” you have Oregon and ASU winning their conferences in their first year with Oregon the number 1 team. Y’all schmucks out there didnt care about the PAC12 and now your pedigree is in danger.
I'm generally with you, the only devils advocate I'll throw out is that Oregon had a very favorable Big 10 schedule and the Big 12 traditionally rolls over for whichever team actually has some balls in a given year. Still think both are gonna do great, Oregon especially with that bottomless NIL bucket.
@@1224taylor Can't say how it could have been a much more difficult B1G schedule, they beat Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Illinois. Are you saying it would have been more challenging with Northwestern, Rutgers, Minnesota and Nebraska?
I love how excited they both get when they agree on something. I haven’t seen analysts this excited and happy to talk about a topic together. I respect and appreciate the level of care and joy they both have for their professions.
Literally not a single game has been played and we are already complaining how it’s setup, let’s see how it plays out then talk about how we can fix it. The only thing we need to fix is out of conference games especially with the power 4 conferences playing each other more and make every conference play 9 conference games that should be the norm
Nope, lesson sent by the selection was for SEC to go back to a 6 game conference schedule and play B12/Mt West/CUSA teams in non conf, drop all the Michigans/Clemsons/Wisconsins/etc.
It's stupid that the second round is at "neutral sites". It's stupid that Oregon and Georgia won't get home games. Especially in Oregon's case where I expect either Tennessee or Ohio State to have more fans in LA than Oregon (Tennessee fans will travel for their first playoff games, and people from Ohio love to leave Ohio). It's also dumb that Boise and ASU get to be 3 and 4 seed just because they won their conferences. If it was actually seeded 1-12, it'd be less of a problem. But we have to pretend those two teams are better than Texas and Ohio State and Tennessee because they won their conferences.
The second round games coincide with traditional New Year’s bowl games. If you don’t like the shoe-horned bowl game context and setting, then that’s fine. But, it’s short-sighted to not see a reasoned purpose to these games not being played on campus.
There are actually a ton of Oregon fans in SoCal. Lots of players go up and play for them from down here too. I got tickets to the Rose Bowl already. Went last time they played. It's also only a 2 hour flight and that's not too tough out of Eugene's airport.
As a Bama fan I’m so glad they actually talked about the games instead of 30 minutes of whether Bama should’ve gotten a 12th seed because despite what other fans may think the majority of Bama fans aren’t sweating this. We know this wasn’t a championship level team so hardly anyone I know is crying over not getting the 12 seed in a playoff. We’re just gonna go to our bowl game, heck, we still have a chance to win 10 games for the 17th straight season so there’s that.
You're not a real Alabama fan. How can you say they're not a championship level team when they LITERALLY beat Georgia, head to head. They are capable and they showed that, on the field.
@@cljackson512Beating Georgia this season isn’t all that special. Georgia lost twice and nearly lost 3 other games and I’ve been a fan since the Bill Curry days.
Not to mention the rarely talked about fact that SMU played 11 Power 4 games this season including the championship game compared to 9 for Bama. It was the right call and a lot of pro-SEC people, especially in the media, hate it.
I would rather watch a flawed SMU or Boise team with as equal an opportunity it all than just have to watch a bama Georgia Clemson Ohio state playoff again
@@swae4KT.... you don't know what you're talking about, that's just like saying Hollywood represents all of America when they think they speak for everyone when nothing could be further from the truth and they only speak for the left-wing wackos.
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I'd throw Sark and Marcus Freeman in there too considering that one guy has the most talented roster in the country on paper, and the other coaches for the most storied program in all of College Football and just so happens to face scornful little brother to the East.
@@jonathanross149 I understand wanting the rivalry wins, but firing a consistent 10-win per year coach is ridiculous. Ohio State fans are too entitled, and need to calm down. 99% of teams' fanbases would LOVE to see their head coach have his record.
I think it will work best for an Oregon if Tennessee beats Ohio State, and Oregon takes on The Vols. I think Oregon’s strengths and style of play stacks up better against Tennessee. With Tennessee the Ducks know what they are getting. At any given time, 2 different Buckeye teams could show up!
@ Maybe so. Yet Oregon beat Penn State by a single score. Penn State who scored 13 vs Ohio State, and tended to score 20-23 pts in quality Big 10 play. They got two more TDs bs Oregon. I am worried for Oregon's defense in playoffs.
Colin lets Joel rip the format (get it) for three full minutes to open the segment THEN says “ok let’s talk about games” 😂 these two together are more dynamic than anyone in sports media
@@kendall_jaymes Colin LET him riff on the format, so you’re spot on. Their respect/disdain level for a one-on-one segment is legendary. PTI type chemistry but even more formidable (even if one day a week most times) Hopefully new CFP keeps bumping us some extra Joel appearances!
No no no. I was reliably told the big 10 is the best conference and I was told the best 12 teams got in. We don’t need to change the narrative now. If Oregon is number 1 they should win all their games.
Whoever is the best team should win all their games this year. Of course, the only team that's left that could pull that off is Oregon, and they could lose just like all the other teams have. Maybe there isn't a best team. Time will tell. lol.
@@jonathanross149 It's disrespect when you consider that a committee of people put this together knowing that Oregon would potentially have the toughest path.
None of the reams I support made it nor did I expect them to. The question was effectively about being "fair" and objectively it was not with respect to the path for Oregon. i credit Coach Lanning for not whining and it would be nice if the players on his team are motivated because of the way things have been set up. I cannot say that I have been impressed by Penn State, Texas, Georgia , Ohio State and saw very little of the Volunteers so while I will watch many of the games I am not that enthused . Frankly , if it was not Oregon then I would be more pleased to see SMU, Boise, Indiana etc
I love the format. It gives us consistent competitive games. It doesn’t do what for say the nba playoffs do when you can basically skip the first round or so because Yk whos gonna win. It all makes for more compelling playoff games. Why does it need to be so easy all the time
But the games WON'T be competitive. ND got an easy home game against Indiana, Pa. State--which didn't have a quality win all season--gets to play SMU at home--and OSU gets a home game it didn't deserve after its embarrassing loss to Michigan. The committee--led by a Big 10 guy--greased the wheels for the big10 teams that all played weak schedules.
Oregon has a potentially difficult path, but they also have a bye. No chance of losing in the first round, no chance of key players getting injured in the first round. They have an easier road than any team without a bye.
Do away with conferences altogether, have a computer assign schedules, implement relegation, and have only 50-60 playoff eligible teams. Have an 8 game playoff based off record. Have some tie breakers of some sort (head to head etc). Done and done.
Why does it anything have to be “fair” with seeding? If you want to win the natty, you have to beat the best teams anyways. If we believe Oregon is the best team, then they should have no problem with Tennessee/OSU on a neutral field, right?
I think the committee was trying to avoid rematches of GA with teams they had already beaten, one of which GA beat twice. However, Penn State and Ohio State should have been seeded the opposite way-that would have avoided a rematch between Ohio State and Oregon.
i really hope the CFB playoff czar implements changes as quickly as the NFL does. reseeding and quarterfinal home games should be implemented by next year at a minimum
They have done it 4 times this season.. 3 of them without a bye during an 8 conference game stretch... It's definitely tough, but they have prevailed every time..
I love watching all the media folks crashing out and crying about how unfair it is that the big brands who lived so high on the hog for so long didn't get in this time.
Man, everyone notices Ewerers looked bad against Georgia except the coach. Good segment. I think Boise State or SMU will be competitive and make Championship game or semifinal very competitive. Just like NCAA basketball upsets. God bless you
There were two points in there but trying to condense it down on a segment like this just led to a lot of rambling and circling around to the same words. It was better explained on his podcast
I have an idea to help Oregon and make it fair. Top four seeds Oregon, asu, Boise, and Georgia should be able to pick which quadrant they want to play in. Oregon picks first since they are #1 seed. Then Georgia gets to pick and so on.
Sounds like a pretty good idea. I'm sure someone will come up with a negative but just thinking about it quickly its fair as long as the top 4 are fairly chosen and the brackets are fairly chosen.
Before the Big Ten Championship, it was extremely clear that if Oregon lost, they would get the 5 or 6 seed which guaranteed them an easier path than 1. Everyone knew it. Oregon could have lost the game if they wanted but they didn't. The committee isn't screwing Oregon. The committee was 100% transparent on how the mechanics of this bracket would work. I don't feel bad for anyone, including Oregon. Good luck to all!
@@RitzCrackers311 Not saying anyone this year would, but there was talk by SMU's coach that if they were kicked out by 1 loss, there'd be a solid argument to "come down with COVID" and sit out a game in the future rather than risk it. He meant it as a rhetorical warning, and I do think that sort of logic did help sway the committee in the right direction. Making it to the conference game should not be allowed to drop you out of the playoff, and ultimately they agreed.
@@RitzCrackers311 I'm not saying it was the wrong move for Oregon, I'm sure the conference championship means a lot to them! All I'm saying is they had a choice based on guranteed outcomes and there's a tradeoff to it.
I don't think anyone is blaming the committee. I think they did a good job. The problem is the format of the playoffs, which was determined a couple years ago by the conference commissioners.
@@jefferykovacs4211 You're really comparing the literal head coach to a fan? Two completely different hats with two completely different responsibilities. Don't be so dense.
We got hosed in 2016 when we won the Big Ten Championship and they sent Ohio State to the CFP! So no, I don’t care and this is simple Good Karma for Penn State!
and 1994 , and so many other times. and the calls against us vs oregon on saturday. they literally got all the calls. we need to step up now and win this thing. penn state!
If it were that simple, Oregon would already have multiple National Championships. Also, even if by some stretch that Oregon loses (which I don't see happening, they're clearly the best team in the country) they're not going away. They've already got a highly ranked recruiting class coming in next year. Oregon is not going away, so you'd better get used to them. IF they don't get it this year, they're going to get it sooner or later.
Poor Ohio state and Georgia they just don't have any resources. And Tennessee can't even afford uniforms.....Ever team has a NIL. And Oregon's NIL is less that the for mentioned teams.
Some people in the world will complain about any and everything. If oregon wins in my opinion they’ll be the greatest college football team of all time because of the conference they played and playing the toughest part of the bracket. And to go undefeated would be insane because they played top tier teams damn near every week
@ huh? I’m saying Georgia has a more favorable path to the championship game than Oregon who deserves that road. Teams should have been reseeded and placed to avoid that happening again.
NGL, Everyone sleeping on SMU and BSU. They got enough talent to Win, they lack the depth and the 4 or 5 star recruits but got the heart to ball out. Go watch the reaction videos of the schools, you can clearly see who the hungry teams were.
What no one is talking about is- it will be CFB Armageddon if UGA and TX meet in the Natty and UGA loses after beating the Longhorns TWICE ALREADY! Everything will be blown up!
This argument reminds of when people use to complain about NFC South champs having a 7-9 record and getting a home game but they didn't realize their teams padded their records with the NFC South.
@@deepfornoreasonx stopped them from coming to Boise, they payed us to get out of the contract 2025. Supposed to be one home and one away game with Oregon. Again, they don’t want to play Boise…
PSU got shafted by the CFP in 2016. They beat OSU and won the B1G10 championship - then somehow OSU went to the playoffs. Also, Oregon deserves a more difficult route due to horrendous officiating in the PSU game. If the officiating had gone the other way, PSU easily could have been the team up 7 at the end. PSU deserves the cupcake route due to those 2 injustices.
@@georgelucas2571 Sure, but that was a September game, and early season games are historically given less consideration in the selection process. They beat Ohio State in a head-to-head matchup, and head-to-head matchups carry significant weight in selection. Last, they won the conference championship, and winning a conference championship is crucial and often guarantees a spot in the playoff.
Sark has to call fades because Ewers' arm turned into a noodle after the collarbone injury and he can't fit into tighter windows in the red zone (which is an issue exacerbated against a more athletic defense)
Or are we undervaluing how good a BYE truly is. Great coaches use the bye to their advantage. I feel like getting your guys healthy and not having to play is more important than playing a competitive team in the first round. The first round bye is rewarding.
I really don’t understand the argument of why people think it’s unfair that the conference champions got byes. Idc what conference your in winning a conference is still difficult. Who else would you give the byes to if it’s not ASU and Boise. Because sure you could say on paper Ohio state is better but they lost to Michigan and we sucked this year. Penn state has 2 loses to the best teams they played , same with Texas, and Tennessee has a bad loss to Arkansas. So do we really think those teams deserve byes over teams with less losses who win their conference.
Where I disagree.. I'm NO Buckeye fan, but they MUST have an advantage in the Northern weather. We northerners adjust well to it. Big plus to the home team.
The crux of the issue is rankings should supersede seeding when allocating teams to the bracket. The 3rd ranked team should go though the 2 and not the 1.
There are no rivalries without conference championships. Teams have to play each other for decades. Rivalries are the lifeblood of college football and it's being kicked to the curb.
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2:30 speaking of “teardown” I’ve heard people do nothing but tear down this 12 team tournament, how about some of y’all try steel manning it because I have a feeling that if they do switch up the format and next year they go by top 25 poll you’re only going to see the same programs year in and year out, you will never see teams like Boise State and Arizona state again, it will come down to the same teams every year. Which, then, in turn means, talent will not be spread out like it is now. Talent will become centralized and will start to hurt college football. Say 10 years from now. But if you keep the same format, it hurts the sec and the big 10 because all they do now is beat up on each other, so I don’t know how you fix this.
Klatt = KIRK HERBSTREIT wannabe
Such a TOOL
They should get rid of college rankings as a voting system. They need to just go off of record and tie breakers like the NFL does. Allow the conference Champions to get in just like the NFL and open the rest of the field to wild card spots. This would only work if they do not count the conference championship games as a win or loss.
Klatt is the worst Sports pundit on RUclips or anywhere
Just Pull Names out of a Hat.
When they asked Dan Lanning about it he said "it isn't supposed to be easy to win a national championship" so he basically embraced the toughest path to the championship.
Dan Lanning is a class act
He has to say that because that's what is expected. Our society hates complaining.
@drax1s729 99% of society complains about everything! What are you talking about?
@@drax1s729 Unless you're from the SEC, right?
Lanning is a big believer in staying focused on what they can control....Hopefully the selection process will improve as this continues
Not one word of complaint from Dan Lanning. That dude's character is amazing to witness.
Lmao amazing character and dan lanning in the same sentence 😭🤣
He will only complain if they lose
@jakeburney84 huh?! Lanning has no examples of character flaws. Not sure what you're implying.
He does not need to when Klatt and Cowherd are doing all the talking :)
I'm not saying Lanning lacks character, but the implication that him not bitching about it somehow makes him some righteous outlier? Totally laughable😂
Always nice when Colin’s dad stops by for a segment
This is correct, Joel replied to a tweet from me from last season and said he was Colin daddy 😅
It’s really nice he checks on his son every week
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😂😂😂😂
Boomer humor 🤡
Abandon the playoff bracket and adopt the NFL model. 1 seed should play the lowest ranked team remaining in the second round.
Makes sense to me
I agree, they are trying to mix the NFL model with the traditional bowl system and the two don’t jive.
The most logical thing to do
Not when the lowest ranked team is better than the top 4
How would that fix anything they still play Ohio state Texas and Georgia…
I dont mind the sentiment as an Oregon fan, but TBH.
Job's not done.
If we cant beat the best why should we rely on someone else to do it for us?
GO 🦆🦆🦆
That's how I feel as well.
This was Pete’s philosophy - anyone, anywhere, anytime
respect that, the opposite approach to that can be seen w/ Lane Kiffin whining about potentially losing the SEC championship game and then losing the right to even play in the game when he would’ve been a lock to get in the CFP by making that game.
RESPECT
Because beating the best and being exhausted is going to factor in. You know have to have one of the hardest paths to a championship maybe ever.
Joel Klatt's analysis is consistently top tier
no its not last week he said only three teams can win the natty this week its four what changed
This was bad analysis from him lil bro 🤡
Not really.
@@jsmithers.What was bad here? I don't think his complaints about the structure of the playoffs works on a short segment on this and I guess you can all these pretty mild takes but I don't see what was "bad"
@@1224taylor He says conference championship wins are overvalued, yet that is the same thing as a division winner being ranked higher than a non-division winner with a better record in the NFL...And we all like it that way.
i have seen enough put joel klatt on the committee right now 🤣🤣
No
@@seancraven-tf6ecWhy not?
Lol.hahaha yeah that's all we need is another sec and big 10 homer! Get rid of the committee! And adopt a real playoff system! Follow division 2 and 3 models and produce a real champion! What are all these talking heads afraid of!
All they have to do is, put conference champion in but not a guarantee bye. Reseed schools after first round & make second round a campus game as well..
This is the easy fix
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AND go to 16 teams with no Conference Championship games
@@bigmike4962 16 with all 9 conference champs. Get rid of the stupid conference championship games.
Definitely need to reseed after the first round! And why not after. the second round too?
Make all teams have a conference championship. Let’s go back to the BCS
Duck Fan here. To quote Chip Kelly, "Win The Day". Go Ducks!
Do yall hate chip Kelly since he left?
@@braddavid902 Oregon is probably the only place Chip has gone through where the fan base doesn't hate him lol
@@braddavid902 Us Oregon fans are still grateful for all that Chip Kelly did here.
@@braddavid902 I don’t. I personally liked him as a Coach here. Love Lanning though 💚💛
@@braddavid902 Chip was part of the reason our ducks have ascended so I'll always appreciate what he did here
Good discussion....Oregon will likely face Ohio State yet again, Texas in Texas, and Georgia in Atlanta....Brutally criminal and where is the reward for being undefeated? If Oregon can win all 3 they will historically have the most brutal path to a championship. Oregon also will go down as one of the best if they do
They get to play on the west coast in the rose bowl so that’s an advantage
@@Jleed989if it’s against Tennessee maybe. Ohio state had a presence at Autzen so the way they travel kinda neutralizes that. Good for them though.
So they’ll pretty much play the regular season Georgia just endured
@@courtneysimpson7942in the most overrated conference?
maybe they’ll get Tenn and Arizona State
“PAC12 teams suck” “PAC12 teams couldn’t handle being in real conferences” you have Oregon and ASU winning their conferences in their first year with Oregon the number 1 team. Y’all schmucks out there didnt care about the PAC12 and now your pedigree is in danger.
No one said Oregon sucked. But yes, the PAC 12 was garbage and folded as a result. Arizona will not last long and is in the Big 12….
I'm generally with you, the only devils advocate I'll throw out is that Oregon had a very favorable Big 10 schedule and the Big 12 traditionally rolls over for whichever team actually has some balls in a given year. Still think both are gonna do great, Oregon especially with that bottomless NIL bucket.
@tomac100 definitely fair at the end of the day, you gotta beat the games on the schedule and they were the only ones to win every one of em
@@1224taylor Can't say how it could have been a much more difficult B1G schedule, they beat Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Illinois. Are you saying it would have been more challenging with Northwestern, Rutgers, Minnesota and Nebraska?
I’m fairness, most people were not complaining about the powers at the top of any conference, but the middle and bottom was complete trash.
I love how excited they both get when they agree on something. I haven’t seen analysts this excited and happy to talk about a topic together. I respect and appreciate the level of care and joy they both have for their professions.
Literally not a single game has been played and we are already complaining how it’s setup, let’s see how it plays out then talk about how we can fix it. The only thing we need to fix is out of conference games especially with the power 4 conferences playing each other more and make every conference play 9 conference games that should be the norm
Nope, lesson sent by the selection was for SEC to go back to a 6 game conference schedule and play B12/Mt West/CUSA teams in non conf, drop all the Michigans/Clemsons/Wisconsins/etc.
Good let the SEC go to 6 conference games...then their only claim to fame is gone... The gauntlet is gone.
@@DavidLyle-su2volmaooo. Sorry bama wasn’t good enough to beat vandy this year. Playing less sec games ain’t going to help with that
@@Johnnyhamcheck1 and that same BAMA team can actually beat any team in the bracket… half the teams in bracket everyone knows has no shot… lol
It's stupid that the second round is at "neutral sites". It's stupid that Oregon and Georgia won't get home games. Especially in Oregon's case where I expect either Tennessee or Ohio State to have more fans in LA than Oregon (Tennessee fans will travel for their first playoff games, and people from Ohio love to leave Ohio).
It's also dumb that Boise and ASU get to be 3 and 4 seed just because they won their conferences. If it was actually seeded 1-12, it'd be less of a problem. But we have to pretend those two teams are better than Texas and Ohio State and Tennessee because they won their conferences.
The second round games coincide with traditional New Year’s bowl games. If you don’t like the shoe-horned bowl game context and setting, then that’s fine. But, it’s short-sighted to not see a reasoned purpose to these games not being played on campus.
There are actually a ton of Oregon fans in SoCal. Lots of players go up and play for them from down here too. I got tickets to the Rose Bowl already. Went last time they played. It's also only a 2 hour flight and that's not too tough out of Eugene's airport.
Gees!
I guarantee Oregon would rather have a bye than a home game… 3 games>>> 4 easily
@@CarterFuchs Yes, but it's insane that the dominant teams don't get to play in front of their home fans under this system.
As a Bama fan I’m so glad they actually talked about the games instead of 30 minutes of whether Bama should’ve gotten a 12th seed because despite what other fans may think the majority of Bama fans aren’t sweating this. We know this wasn’t a championship level team so hardly anyone I know is crying over not getting the 12 seed in a playoff. We’re just gonna go to our bowl game, heck, we still have a chance to win 10 games for the 17th straight season so there’s that.
You're not a real Alabama fan. How can you say they're not a championship level team when they LITERALLY beat Georgia, head to head. They are capable and they showed that, on the field.
@@cljackson512Beating Georgia this season isn’t all that special. Georgia lost twice and nearly lost 3 other games and I’ve been a fan since the Bill Curry days.
Beating the sec champs has to count for something @@neneshubby
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 It would’ve if we don’t lose to a pair of 6-6 teams. Nobody but ourselves to blame.
Not to mention the rarely talked about fact that SMU played 11 Power 4 games this season including the championship game compared to 9 for Bama. It was the right call and a lot of pro-SEC people, especially in the media, hate it.
I would rather watch a flawed SMU or Boise team with as equal an opportunity it all than just have to watch a bama Georgia Clemson Ohio state playoff again
you don’t mean that 😂 and even if you do that won’t sell as much as the bigger teams
@@swae4KT Yes, we really mean that. And fans don't care about sells.
@@swae4KT.... you don't know what you're talking about, that's just like saying Hollywood represents all of America when they think they speak for everyone when nothing could be further from the truth and they only speak for the left-wing wackos.
@@swae4KT you talking about sell and money as if you would get a piece of it.
We get it you like participation trophies
I've been saying for awhile now...Quinn Ewers is a little over-rated.....the NFL teams that scout him are going to be a little disappointed.
Really weak QB class, Sanders and Cam Ward will probably go top 5 but they wouldn’t have been first round last year
I’m a longhorn fan and I think he’s very overrated
Let’s just admit that we all love College Football!
Thanks Colin and dad Joel for bringing it yet again.
Lock the gates behind you… it’s going to be a bath!
lol, Merry Christmas guys. Have fun with your friend and family!
Klatt x Colin >>>>>>
No
I watch a ton of these sports shows talking about this but when I stumbled across this one they nailed it. Very good discussion
No one getting a bye is getting hosed. Joel and Colin need a coloring book and a safe space.
They are both pontificating buttheads full of self-aggrandizement who grossly overvalued themselves.
They both grossly overvalue themselves.
RUclips thinking they have the right to silence people again.
Texas fan here. Agree with all the Sark criticism and reluctance to put in Arch. He can get a little stubborn sometimes.
James Franklin and Ryan Day will be the two most pressured coaches on Saturday at HOME. their HOME CROWD does NOT need to see them choke.
ryan day as beaten top 10 teams before. Choke Franklin on the other hand...
The difference is Ryan day may get fired if he loses. They'll never fire Franklin for some reason
@@chriskozak7356You cannot lose to Mich 4 times in a row and keep your job.
I'd throw Sark and Marcus Freeman in there too considering that one guy has the most talented roster in the country on paper, and the other coaches for the most storied program in all of College Football and just so happens to face scornful little brother to the East.
@@jonathanross149 I understand wanting the rivalry wins, but firing a consistent 10-win per year coach is ridiculous. Ohio State fans are too entitled, and need to calm down. 99% of teams' fanbases would LOVE to see their head coach have his record.
The bracket is perfect man they better not change it
I think it will work best for an Oregon if Tennessee beats Ohio State, and Oregon takes on The Vols. I think Oregon’s strengths and style of play stacks up better against Tennessee. With Tennessee the Ducks know what they are getting. At any given time, 2 different Buckeye teams could show up!
Great to see these 2 as always.
Actually Arizona St technically had best conference championship performance, not Oregon.
Ahhh, but look who their opponent was . . . Iowa State vs. Penn State? Not equivalent . . . I'm sorry, they're just not.
Not relative to the opponent.
@@Rilianawakened321.... Penn State's not that good this year so that's a poor example and Iowa State could definitely beat them.
@@Rilianawakened321....nope
@ Maybe so. Yet Oregon beat Penn State by a single score. Penn State who scored 13 vs Ohio State, and tended to score 20-23 pts in quality Big 10 play. They got two more TDs bs Oregon. I am worried for Oregon's defense in playoffs.
joel klatt killed it in the intro! tyring to put old wine into new wine skins.... superb!
That was great!
Colin lets Joel rip the format (get it) for three full minutes to open the segment THEN says “ok let’s talk about games” 😂 these two together are more dynamic than anyone in sports media
Idk though.. tha bigg bro homie/mentor, lil homie/mentee dynamic with him and my guy Nick is prettyyy cool
@@kendall_jaymes Colin LET him riff on the format, so you’re spot on. Their respect/disdain level for a one-on-one segment is legendary. PTI type chemistry but even more formidable (even if one day a week most times)
Hopefully new CFP keeps bumping us some extra Joel appearances!
Keep writing off SMU see what happens
This 12 is the best format we've had.
Needs to change a few things, but already a huge success
No no no. I was reliably told the big 10 is the best conference and I was told the best 12 teams got in. We don’t need to change the narrative now. If Oregon is number 1 they should win all their games.
Whoever is the best team should win all their games this year. Of course, the only team that's left that could pull that off is Oregon, and they could lose just like all the other teams have. Maybe there isn't a best team. Time will tell. lol.
Funny to see Colin reel Joel back in from the bracket rant. We love ya Klatty
Not to mention Oregon most likely gets an Ohio State team with a coach that is clearly on the hot seat. Bad deal for them lol
I can’t believe Joel isn’t in a Hampton by Hilton😂
Ducks have no fear. One game, one play at a time. They can handle it.
I hope you and Klatt are good buddies the way you’re questioning his paycheck. The man is putting in work.
It's just more disrespect for Oregon, but we're used to this. We will take what comes.
It's not disrespect. It's just a very flawed system, that should be fixed.
@@jonathanross149 It's disrespect when you consider that a committee of people put this together knowing that Oregon would potentially have the toughest path.
@@deepfornoreasonxagree 100%
😂 on Duck disrespect.
So interesting and SPOT ON!!!
None of the reams I support made it nor did I expect them to. The question was effectively about being "fair" and objectively it was not with respect to the path for Oregon. i credit Coach Lanning for not whining and it would be nice if the players on his team are motivated because of the way things have been set up. I cannot say that I have been impressed by Penn State, Texas, Georgia , Ohio State and saw very little of the Volunteers so while I will watch many of the games I am not that enthused . Frankly , if it was not Oregon then I would be more pleased to see SMU, Boise, Indiana etc
I love the format. It gives us consistent competitive games. It doesn’t do what for say the nba playoffs do when you can basically skip the first round or so because Yk whos gonna win. It all makes for more compelling playoff games. Why does it need to be so easy all the time
But the games WON'T be competitive. ND got an easy home game against Indiana, Pa. State--which didn't have a quality win all season--gets to play SMU at home--and OSU gets a home game it didn't deserve after its embarrassing loss to Michigan. The committee--led by a Big 10 guy--greased the wheels for the big10 teams that all played weak schedules.
@ I disagree
@@richardernsberger5692 Why does everyone just assume that Notre Dame is going to win that game? lmao
@@deepfornoreasonxExactly. IU the best team ND played all year
Oregon has a potentially difficult path, but they also have a bye. No chance of losing in the first round, no chance of key players getting injured in the first round. They have an easier road than any team without a bye.
Do away with conferences altogether, have a computer assign schedules, implement relegation, and have only 50-60 playoff eligible teams. Have an 8 game playoff based off record. Have some tie breakers of some sort (head to head etc). Done and done.
Why does it anything have to be “fair” with seeding? If you want to win the natty, you have to beat the best teams anyways. If we believe Oregon is the best team, then they should have no problem with Tennessee/OSU on a neutral field, right?
From a buckeyes fan.
Then Texas after that and Georgia after Texas
agreed
The #1 team should have an easier path than teams below them.
It’s not about “fair” it’s about giving number 1 seed what they earned
I think the committee was trying to avoid rematches of GA with teams they had already beaten, one of which GA beat twice. However, Penn State and Ohio State should have been seeded the opposite way-that would have avoided a rematch between Ohio State and Oregon.
if belecheck grew a mustache, the bears would hire him tomorrow
i really hope the CFB playoff czar implements changes as quickly as the NFL does. reseeding and quarterfinal home games should be implemented by next year at a minimum
Oregon found out how hard it is to play a decent team 3 time zones away from home.
They have done it 4 times this season.. 3 of them without a bye during an 8 conference game stretch... It's definitely tough, but they have prevailed every time..
Yeah. And won
@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_ emphasis on decent.
Mad respect to Oregon. Won every single game and can win any style.
And they are undefeated! So you make no sense!
It looks like Penn State could get a rematch with either Oregon or Ohio State. Happy Days.
I love watching all the media folks crashing out and crying about how unfair it is that the big brands who lived so high on the hog for so long didn't get in this time.
Man, everyone notices Ewerers looked bad against Georgia except the coach. Good segment. I think Boise State or SMU will be competitive and make Championship game or semifinal very competitive. Just like NCAA basketball upsets. God bless you
Klatt's right about long-winded. He made the same point six times in three minutes.
Colin was exhausted after listening to that dissertation..😂
There were two points in there but trying to condense it down on a segment like this just led to a lot of rambling and circling around to the same words. It was better explained on his podcast
@@DenueGrimes Much like Colin's whole show.
He just talks and says he can do everything better. He sounds like a genius to casual.
Klatt was defensive after his blowhard tweet yesterday attacking the committee.
Great breakdown on dysfunctional playoff structure Joel
Expecting a corrupted system to do what is "fair" is 24kt comedic gold
Gotta give Joel props for the Albers prints!
I have an idea to help Oregon and make it fair. Top four seeds Oregon, asu, Boise, and Georgia should be able to pick which quadrant they want to play in. Oregon picks first since they are #1 seed. Then Georgia gets to pick and so on.
Sounds like a pretty good idea. I'm sure someone will come up with a negative but just thinking about it quickly its fair as long as the top 4 are fairly chosen and the brackets are fairly chosen.
Just reseed. If a team like Clemson or SMU get upsets in round 1 they play Oregon.
@@tidmarshXC Yep, reseeding after the first round would help fix this problem.
First thing I thought about when you said old and new don't mix/work with the wineskins Joel. Very nice!
At least Oregon is not it in the Pop Tarts Bowl (real thing) with Mario.
😂
Dillon Gabriel is so smooth under pressure and throws one of the most catchable balls ever…
Oregon is so lucky to have him.
Before the Big Ten Championship, it was extremely clear that if Oregon lost, they would get the 5 or 6 seed which guaranteed them an easier path than 1. Everyone knew it. Oregon could have lost the game if they wanted but they didn't. The committee isn't screwing Oregon. The committee was 100% transparent on how the mechanics of this bracket would work. I don't feel bad for anyone, including Oregon. Good luck to all!
Who would willingly lose a conference championship…
@@RitzCrackers311 Not saying anyone this year would, but there was talk by SMU's coach that if they were kicked out by 1 loss, there'd be a solid argument to "come down with COVID" and sit out a game in the future rather than risk it. He meant it as a rhetorical warning, and I do think that sort of logic did help sway the committee in the right direction. Making it to the conference game should not be allowed to drop you out of the playoff, and ultimately they agreed.
@@RitzCrackers311 I'm not saying it was the wrong move for Oregon, I'm sure the conference championship means a lot to them! All I'm saying is they had a choice based on guranteed outcomes and there's a tradeoff to it.
I don't think anyone is blaming the committee. I think they did a good job. The problem is the format of the playoffs, which was determined a couple years ago by the conference commissioners.
This could easily end up being a part 3 matchup for Georgia and Texas....
🙄
Ducks get 0 reward for being the #1 seed. Absolutely insane
Bye week is a reward somehow
@@lcf2366 what benefit is there from being 1 over 2-4? in the NBA/NFL the 1 seed plays the worst teams on their path.
@@lcf2366 I would agree but it's a 3 1/2 week bye instead of a 2 week bye. Could work against them being off so long.
@@jimjohnson6599 It is a trade that depends on how the energy level of both teams after the period of time
1000% agree on Arch vs Quinn. Sark’s decision-making has been incredibly suspect.
Oregon got so hosed. Oregon should be playing the easiest path to the Natty
Quit crying your coach isn't
@ as a fan, i have a right to complain. Oregon earned the easiest path
@That_Team_Out_West no you don't, again your coach isn't so why should you.
@@jefferykovacs4211 You're really comparing the literal head coach to a fan? Two completely different hats with two completely different responsibilities. Don't be so dense.
The fact that these two don’t do a podcast together is a shame.
Can you believe Oregon might have to beat a playoff team in the playoffs after a bye?
Yawn, we all know the got hosed. To say otherwise is dumb.
Dude fr😂. What are we talking about. it’s the playoffs sorry you have to play one of the best teams in the nation
It’s flawed because the rankings are flawed, not necessarily the playoff.
We got hosed in 2016 when we won the Big Ten Championship and they sent Ohio State to the CFP! So no, I don’t care and this is simple Good Karma for Penn State!
and 1994 , and so many other times. and the calls against us vs oregon on saturday. they literally got all the calls. we need to step up now and win this thing. penn state!
This was literally the format that Klatt advocated tirelessly for……
Best college football segment on tv
Poor Oregon. Their tough road to their first ever championship might prevent Uncle Phil from BUYING A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP 😂
Everybody is buying one then. Oregon doesn't even spend the most
If it were that simple, Oregon would already have multiple National Championships. Also, even if by some stretch that Oregon loses (which I don't see happening, they're clearly the best team in the country) they're not going away. They've already got a highly ranked recruiting class coming in next year. Oregon is not going away, so you'd better get used to them. IF they don't get it this year, they're going to get it sooner or later.
Poor Ohio state and Georgia they just don't have any resources. And Tennessee can't even afford uniforms.....Ever team has a NIL. And Oregon's NIL is less that the for mentioned teams.
Some people in the world will complain about any and everything. If oregon wins in my opinion they’ll be the greatest college football team of all time because of the conference they played and playing the toughest part of the bracket. And to go undefeated would be insane because they played top tier teams damn near every week
I get what you’re saying but the best ever? Nahh. Maybe top 7
Georgia with a better path than Oregon hahaha
How is that a good thing? If Georgia was #1 you would hate it. Oregon has been better than Georgia all year starting in week 3.
@ huh? I’m saying Georgia has a more favorable path to the championship game than Oregon who deserves that road. Teams should have been reseeded and placed to avoid that happening again.
Not getting by ND
@@samweiss-vi6lywho?
NGL, Everyone sleeping on SMU and BSU. They got enough talent to Win, they lack the depth and the 4 or 5 star recruits but got the heart to ball out. Go watch the reaction videos of the schools, you can clearly see who the hungry teams were.
What no one is talking about is- it will be CFB Armageddon if UGA and TX meet in the Natty and UGA loses after beating the Longhorns TWICE ALREADY! Everything will be blown up!
Yeah everyone been waiting for Texas to beat them lol UGA will beat them again and again.
OMG thank you for saying that because I thought I was the only one seeing this.
That's why they go to Oregon..to play in the biggest games . Let's Go
They go to Oregon for the Nike money and so they can look for bigfoot on the weekends.
As a football fan I’d much rather hear Joel Klatt talk about the new playoff format and why it is the way it is, than hear about games…
Ohio State and Tenn are both better than Penn State
This argument reminds of when people use to complain about NFC South champs having a 7-9 record and getting a home game but they didn't realize their teams padded their records with the NFC South.
Oregon doesn’t want to play Boise again. Boise beats Oregon more often than not
You're high.
@ what’s Oregon’s record against Boise? Without a special teams mistake we would still be undefeated
@@Radtech7459 Did that record stop them from losing to Oregon?
@@deepfornoreasonx stopped them from coming to Boise, they payed us to get out of the contract 2025. Supposed to be one home and one away game with Oregon. Again, they don’t want to play Boise…
😂😂😂😂 a swanky set up love COLIN AND KLATT
PSU got shafted by the CFP in 2016. They beat OSU and won the B1G10 championship - then somehow OSU went to the playoffs. Also, Oregon deserves a more difficult route due to horrendous officiating in the PSU game. If the officiating had gone the other way, PSU easily could have been the team up 7 at the end.
PSU deserves the cupcake route due to those 2 injustices.
Didn’t that 2016 Penn State team get manhandled by Michigan?
@@georgelucas2571 Sure, but that was a September game, and early season games are historically given less consideration in the selection process. They beat Ohio State in a head-to-head matchup, and head-to-head matchups carry significant weight in selection. Last, they won the conference championship, and winning a conference championship is crucial and often guarantees a spot in the playoff.
Sark has to call fades because Ewers' arm turned into a noodle after the collarbone injury and he can't fit into tighter windows in the red zone (which is an issue exacerbated against a more athletic defense)
Carson Beck came out in OT with one arm dangling and Texas STILL lined up like they were gonna throw it 😂.
“You are COMPENSATED for that greatness. Our salary cap here, we don’t have a lot of wiggle room with the Klattster” 😂😂😂😂
They are stuck on name brands...it only looks extra bad because of where the name brand teams are.
Who wouldn’t want to play in Oregon? Best facilities and a savage head coach.
Or are we undervaluing how good a BYE truly is. Great coaches use the bye to their advantage.
I feel like getting your guys healthy and not having to play is more important than playing a competitive team in the first round. The first round bye is rewarding.
I really don’t understand the argument of why people think it’s unfair that the conference champions got byes. Idc what conference your in winning a conference is still difficult. Who else would you give the byes to if it’s not ASU and Boise. Because sure you could say on paper Ohio state is better but they lost to Michigan and we sucked this year. Penn state has 2 loses to the best teams they played , same with Texas, and Tennessee has a bad loss to Arkansas. So do we really think those teams deserve byes over teams with less losses who win their conference.
Right before 4:16 Klatt preach! Well said. Adjustments needed next year
Most likely it will be Oregon vs Georgia in the NC title
Where I disagree.. I'm NO Buckeye fan, but they MUST have an advantage in the Northern weather. We northerners adjust well to it. Big plus to the home team.
The crux of the issue is rankings should supersede seeding when allocating teams to the bracket. The 3rd ranked team should go though the 2 and not the 1.
There are no rivalries without conference championships. Teams have to play each other for decades. Rivalries are the lifeblood of college football and it's being kicked to the curb.
I still think 2024 will be the year of the Texas Longhorns. Giddy up Longhorns!
Giving buys to the conference champions will build parity between conferences. It doesn’t t make sense now but it will within the next 2-3 years.
Thank you
What if instead of a static bracket, you allow the top four seeds to choose their opponent starting with the number 1 seed getting first choice etc.