You forgot the part where you spend 10 minutes swearing when that one single wire just doesn't want to cooperate and keeps shifting it's position when entering the RJ45 connector 🤣
Tell me about it! All those wires want to remain in their initial positions. I've often toyed with the... do you cut the wires to length, then try to place them in order.. or, get them assembled into order with long tails, then trim the bad boys.. no conclusions on that one. However, this is right up there alongside the; forgetting to put the boot on, and inserting the wires.. in order.. but upside down. Thanks for watching.
The video recommended putting the jack into the crimper then inserting the wires. I'll disagree with this. I've seen the wires move too often when inserting them into the jack. Insert the wires into the jack first and look through the jack to make sure all the wires are all the way in and in the correct order before putting the jack into the crimper. Of course, this isn't as big a problem with the push through jacks since you can see the wires as they come out the other end of the jack.
Hi. Thanks for comment. For the traditional plugs, inserting wires before putting jack into crimper is not a bad thing. I remember when I was first learning to wire RJ45's I would prep the end of the cable and then repeatedly insert and extract the wires just to get use to those wires aligning themselves into the channels inside the RJ45 plug. It's probably not a bad idea for someone starting out to insert the wires before placing the plug in the crimper in that you can visually inspect the insertion prior to the plug being obscured by the crimper. Thanks for watching and commenting.
"recording on a webcam" :-o :-) ...... So the 6k Panasonic camera not quite cutting it ... note to self... check the settings.. specifically the "emulate webcam mode".. "you showed everything" ... I like to think so.. "so helpful" ... that's what we like to hear.... plus a Subscribe :-)
Do you know.. looking back.. i think you're right... it looks like a webcam... I think the production element of the videos has improved over the months so more recent videos look 'better'.. Thanks for highlighting it though... appreciate you taking the time..
Have been fighting with the cable for the last 45 minutes and keep getting the pairs slightly out of alighnment - great video - major frustration on my part! I NEED those passthru plugs - would make checking it a LOT easier than losing a bunch of plugs when the tester resturns the wrong pair
Go PassThru.. you know it makes sense :-) ... you're right though... with the traditional plugs.. it's difficult to see the ordering inside the plug, whereas with PassThru they pop out the otherside and there is no confusion about what's happening...PLUS, the diagram sits on the otherside. Thanks for pointing out this particular observation. There's two schools of thought when you wire one end wrong... 1) go ahead and wire the other end in exactly the wrong way ! or, 2) snip the end off and get it right ! :-) ... either way it will work. Thanks for your feedback.. much appreciated!
Can it be done without that special tool? I’ve got my 8 coloured wires in the rj45 plug. How is the copper core exposed to the pins in the rj45 plastic bit? Can it only be done with the tool?
I've been crimping RJ45's for 10+ years, got finger tips like a guitarist to prove it! Tough to watch your video but I'll give you 10 for effort :) It's cheaper and just as easy to do it with the standard RJ45s once you've done a few. CAT5e is easy, CAT6 can be a pain if you don't deal with the plastic divider well. I tend to pull the cores and the jacket back on themselves a bit and pull the plastic divider out (almost stretching it) a little before cutting it off, that way it tends to go back inside the jacket a little and gets out of your way. If you want a tip to just remember the colours..... ORANGES grow on GREEN trees under a BLUE sky but to get GREEN leaves they need BROWN soil. Always start with white and go left to right. Swap the blue pair to start with the colour rather than the white. Never need a chart or Google ever again ;) I have found that a fully populated network switch can have issue fitting a full 48 ports of booted RJ45s as they can push up on the side of each other and make it very tough to connect and disconnect, I even had connectivity issues caused because of this. Booted is still best practice though just be aware of the above. I wouldn't recommend putting the RJ45 in the crimp first. Straighten out your cores, pinch the top of the jacket with one thumb and finger whilst wiggling the cores left and right a few times with your other hand to get them all straight and in order. With the crimp you can cut with the cutter side to get the exposed cores down to around 10-12mm and all in a straight line, you just do it by eye after a while, around length of your thumb nail. Now just carefully slide the RJ45 on, keeping a tight grip on the end of the jacket you were pinching will keep them in the right order. The end of the jacket should go in up to the mould line on the RJ45 and nicely past the plastic tab the crimp will push down on. You can now double check the cores are in the right order by looking through the plastic RJ45, if they are good crimp away, if not take out, adjust, check again and crimp away. This is usually the point where you say ah **** I forgot to put the boot on.
Andy, really appreciate the considered and constructive response. "Tough to watch your video"... even I'm struggling to watch it now :-) the production/edit wasn't so great, attention to detail not so great, so would probably have done it different and hopefully better now. The tip for remembering colours... brilliant.. " ORANGES grow on GREEN trees under a BLUE sky but to get GREEN leaves they need BROWN soil.".. I've always used one for UK electrics which is the "The live BROWN worm sits on the YELLOW/GREEN earth looking at the neutral BLUE sky". Thanks for your addition. I still have no idea why this video is generating so much interest, as opposed to my more recent improved ones, but if nothing else this one is generating conversation. Thanks so much for your contribution.
But there is a lot of people are complaining about this tool; some say its miss 1 and 2 pins and some say it did not cut perfectly all the time. Advise please.
I've not had that issue/problem. You do have to squeeze that trigger hard until you reach resistance. It has no choice but to cut the wires. I've been using the tool ever since putting that video together and I like it.. It almost feels lazy not doing it the hard way. I would say.. if you've had success with the old method/tool, stick with it.. but I like the Klein tool because of the simplicity. Let me know where you've seen people having problems. Thanks for watching!
Do I need to buy pass through crimper or I can use the regular crimp tool. Want to know if I can use the pass through rj45 connector with standard crimp tool and then cut “passed” wires with scissors
You could use a regular crimping tool with the pass-thru connectors but I feel you'd probably have to use a sharp knife/blade to cut them flush as scissors wont get close enough and you might find you struggle to place the connectors securely in the RJ45 socket with a stub of wires sticking out. Honestly though, once you've done one or two using the tradition crimper and traditional non-pass through plugs, you'll be on a roll. It's just about getting the right amount of outer PVC sheath. Go with the .. cut an inch of PVC sheath off, align the colours into correct order, then cut the inch down to half an inch. The sheath should be clamped once crimped. Good luck! Let me know how you get on.
I have an old set I bought about 22 years ago that I been using for that long and decided to buy the new passthrough tool which mine looks like your standard crimper in the video actually both my pass through & standard looks pretty much alike only the pass through has other options but I found my pass through isn't crimping the ends right it's not breaking the wire to hit the electrodes or clip fingers I used my old crimps to crimp the pass through tighter and the cable works but it's slow is there a way to adjust the finger breaks on all these tools? I should look since I just figured this problem out.
Dennis.. Good question. I think technically/physically, yes you could.. but practically the results would be a bit hit and miss. I've just experimented in case I missed something. The reason is that the traditional tool has no blade to cut the wires that extend through the plug (the "pass thru" bit), so whilst you could thread all eight wires through the plug and then crimp it, you'd still have an excess of wire coming through the plug. I imagine you could use a Stanley/box knife to trim them down, although you'd have to take care not to damage the clip moulding that protrudes slightly. Did you envisage a scenario where you'd want to do use the pass-thru plugs with the traditional tool ? Just FYI, someone else asked the counter question, about using normal (non pass-thru) RJ45 plugs in the Klein Tools Crimper, which initially I thought was not possible, but it is :-) Thanks for watching.
In my experience, pass through crimps are rotten. Much better with conventional crimps and just taking your time when arranging the pairs. Most pass through crimps crush the protruding ends and can cause wires to short on one another.
Arno, thanks so much for your question.. and apologies for the delayed response. I did look in to this based on a previous query: So, I looked at the manufacturer's page www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru and they write: "Not for use with standard (non Pass-Thru) connectors" but i thought.. interesting. So I got a non Pass-Thru RJ45 connector and just successfully crimped it, no issues. In a way, everything about Pass-Thru and Non Pass-Thru plugs need to be identical, apart from the holes to allow the wires to pass thru on this crimper. Just comparing the two different plugs and they are identical in terms of the sheath clamp, wire pins, everything. So, can only imagine the the manufacturers clause is more about "would prefer you didn't... ". If I was crimping production cables I'd test the first few or so to give me a level of confidence. Go for it, keep a mix of pass-thru and non-pass-thru in your tool box. Thanks for watching and taking the time to ask a question. Much appreciated !
Hi, thanks a lot for the response! I have since then already bought the crimper and have also had no issues crimping non-pasthrough plugs as you mentioned.
I've used the normal plugs and crimpers for 20 years or so, and it was pure curiosity that I looked at the pass-thru crimper/plugs. There's definitely some benefits for newcomers to crimping and I would almost suggest fail-proof. But at the end of the day.. whatever method/tool works.. no need to change.
I like the traditional tool. I dont like pass through because it leaves open conductors exposed and depending on the application the emf at those ends can cause issues. Practicing crimping with the standard plug gets easy after a little while. Whichever you use always test it with a cable tester after.
@Henry Jones Henry, thanks for your comment. It’s definitely what you’re use to. I’ve been using a standard tool for years with little in the way of problems. However, what I found out recently is that the klein tool will crimp non-pass thru plugs so you get all the benefits. I really like the idea of the colour codes printed on the tool although for years carried a crib-card with the colours. and.. it crimps standard (non-pass thru) connectors
The two standards came about to split up the 'pairs' in order to reduce cross-talk between wires/pairs. However, as to why this arrangement or why there's an A or B.. I had never considered this. Just been looking into it and found something pertinent if you were considering wiring at the Pentagon.. www.flukenetworks.com/knowledge-base/application-or-standards-articles-copper/differences-between-wiring-codes-t568a-vs Most articles seem to implicate the US Government for the standards. Would be keen to hear from others on this subject. Great question. Thanks.
From what I remember in class, in the past we use to have to make 2 types of cables straight through and crossover. In straight through we used the same standard on both sides either 568A or 568B, then in crossover we use one standard on one end and another standard on the other. Then we used these different types of cables for different situations. The straight through cables were for dis-similar devices like from a PC network port to a switch, while a crossover cable were for similar devices eg switch to switch or pc to pc. But here is the most important thing to know. Most devices these days are auto sensing and don't need you to create crossover cables, you just need to make straight through and you are good to go the devices will automatically know how to connect to one another.
@@allthegear-noidea1298 The wiring order is for historical reasons. Originally modular plugs were designed for telephony. I'm not sure where the A pattern came from, but the B pattern is from a preexisting AT&T standard and had a fair amount of use before Ethernet became popular. Everyone learned the B pattern because the people teaching them had learned the B pattern, and the cycle has continued through to today. The first circuit was on the center two pins, and the second circuit took the next set of pins out from the center. That applies not just to RJ45 but to RJ11/12 as well. I'm guessing they abandoned that pattern for circuits 3 and 4 because it becomes difficult to terminate the wires if the pairs have to split that far (or maybe to minimize the untwisted section for noise reasons). For 10BaseT and 100BaseT, the center two pins are unused by networking so that they can be used for voice (although I've never seen it done and I'm not sure if that was ever recommended).
Great video. Thank you. Maybe put the boot on before you cut? All these videos should come with a disclaimer that it's not going to be as easy as they make it look. Buy extra cable and jacks!...and a continuity tester!😆
I haven't gotten what i was looking for out of this video. You skipped right over the most annoying part - arranging the wires in the right order. I bet there's a trick to do that quicker and easier, but i haven't seen one yet. Every time i arrange them they end up crossing all the way across each other, then i have to undo and try to shift them all around until it's less horrible. There has to be a better way.
CAT-5 is easier. This is what I do for CAT-6: Strip the sheathing longer than you need to and untwist the pairs. Arrange them approximately how you want them. Then take a screwdriver (or any thin, round, hard object), hold the wires against the shaft of the screwdriver with your thumb, and pull the wires through. All the kinks will be gone and all the wires will have a gentle curve. Arrange the wires again, cut to length, crimp as usual. It's an extra step, but I find it takes less time and gives me more consistent results.
Hi there. The product page for this crimper is here: www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru The price in the UK is approximately £50 (Screwfix, Amazon, RS, CEF, etc), seems to be about $50 in the US. Google for "VDV226-110" and you should be able to find it. Thanks for watching and your interest.
Interesting question.. So, I looked at the manufacturer's page www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru and they write: "Not for use with standard (non Pass-Thru) connectors" but i thought.. interesting. So I got a non Pass-Thru RJ45 connector and just successfully crimped it, no issues. In a way, everything about Pass-Thru and Non Pass-Thru plugs need to be identical, apart from the holes to allow the wires to pass thru on this crimper. Just comparing the two different plugs and they are identical in terms of the sheath clamp, wire pins, everything. So, can only imagine the the manufacturers clause is more about "would prefer you didn't... ". If I was crimping production cables I'd test the first few or so to give me a level of confidence. Thanks for the question though!
Take a look at this image: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/6404/1539/files/T568A_vs_T568B___trueCABLE_1024x1024.jpg It gives you a sense of where Pin 1 in relation to the the orientation of the plug (tab up or tab down). Pin 1 is the White/Orange strand for the T568B convention. The beauty of the KleinTools PassThru tool is that it shows you the colour ordering both in and out of the plug, so double verification. If you use a normal RJ45 crimping tool and using the T568B convention, with the tab at the bottom make sure you run through the white/orange as far left (Pin 1) as possible, and finally end up on solid brown (pin 8) far right. Then crimp away. Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching and the question. I've now settled on the Klein Tools Pass-Thru in my network toolbox. You just know you're going to get a good result everytime. Also, I find the fact that the tool has the markings/colour codes on the device itself means no more surfing or bringing the handy guide around. I got very competent with the old style tool knowing what length to cut at, but the Klein Tool just takes the thinking out of it. Upvote on the pass-thru. :-)
I like the traditional tool. I dont like pass through because it leaves open conductors exposed and depending on the application the emf at those ends can cause issues. Practicing crimping with the standard plug gets easy after a little while.
@@Henry_Jones Henry, thanks for your comment. It’s definitely what you’re use to. I’ve been using a standard tool for years with little in the way of problems. However, what I found out recently is that the klein tool will crimp non-pass thru plugs so you get all the benefits. I really like the idea of the colour codes printed on the tool.
Btw , you dont really exactly need to use the boot if you are rarely unplugging the cable and moving it all over the place. It doesnt really matter, the clip doesnt break as easily as thought.
It's definitely a personal choice. I think the boots have helped me in the past when I've had a tangle of cables and the clip gets caught up and you pull the cable through and it snaps. You're right in that I've rarely lost a clip from inserting/extracting a cable, it's what happens all those other times. :-) Thanks for your comment. - Dave
I was under the impression that is was mainly for strain relief on the cable. Isn't that why it's called a strain relief boot? I'd never heard about it protecting the clip.
You are correct. When extracting a plugged in cable there's a tendency to pull on the CAT 5/6/7 cable, whereas you should grip the strain relief boot, push down on the clip and remove it. That is it's main purpose. However, I think the secondary most beneficial one for me is when I have box full of cables and trying find one, you just know that the cable without a boot is going to get its clip caught on another cable and get pulled back. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@mlordwhiteslayerfromf.u.g when ordering predone cables, all the 'booted' versions are usally called snagless. Boots on user devices like computers etc, no boots on racks, ever.
Well spotted, around the 07:00 mark. Some of the shots took a few takes and I think accuracy went out the window with ordering the pairs after a while :-) .. My other thought (excuse!) was that it was more about the principle. In my defence though, the standard could be looked at as a recommendation rather than a rule, and if one has made a mistake on one of the plugs, just make sure you repeat the mistake on the other end :-) Thanks for the eagle eye viewing.. I thought this would have come up earlier...
Exactly. Putting the wires in the right order is the hardest part with the traditional way and it is a pita, and here on this video he pretends to do it right when he clearly doesn't... Tf
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You forgot the part where you spend 10 minutes swearing when that one single wire just doesn't want to cooperate and keeps shifting it's position when entering the RJ45 connector 🤣
Tell me about it! All those wires want to remain in their initial positions. I've often toyed with the... do you cut the wires to length, then try to place them in order.. or, get them assembled into order with long tails, then trim the bad boys.. no conclusions on that one. However, this is right up there alongside the; forgetting to put the boot on, and inserting the wires.. in order.. but upside down.
Thanks for watching.
Yes
The video recommended putting the jack into the crimper then inserting the wires. I'll disagree with this. I've seen the wires move too often when inserting them into the jack. Insert the wires into the jack first and look through the jack to make sure all the wires are all the way in and in the correct order before putting the jack into the crimper. Of course, this isn't as big a problem with the push through jacks since you can see the wires as they come out the other end of the jack.
Hi. Thanks for comment. For the traditional plugs, inserting wires before putting jack into crimper is not a bad thing. I remember when I was first learning to wire RJ45's I would prep the end of the cable and then repeatedly insert and extract the wires just to get use to those wires aligning themselves into the channels inside the RJ45 plug. It's probably not a bad idea for someone starting out to insert the wires before placing the plug in the crimper in that you can visually inspect the insertion prior to the plug being obscured by the crimper.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Absolutely
Oh yeah… agreed
Honestly for a guy recording on a webcam you showed everything thank you so helpful
"recording on a webcam" :-o :-) ...... So the 6k Panasonic camera not quite cutting it ... note to self... check the settings.. specifically the "emulate webcam mode"..
"you showed everything" ... I like to think so..
"so helpful" ... that's what we like to hear.... plus a Subscribe :-)
@@allthegear-noidea1298 No sorry its just the way the camera was angled it looked like a webcam
Do you know.. looking back.. i think you're right... it looks like a webcam...
I think the production element of the videos has improved over the months so more recent videos look 'better'..
Thanks for highlighting it though... appreciate you taking the time..
@@allthegear-noidea1298 Well I've subscribed so I'll be watching more!
Nice. Subscribed
Have been fighting with the cable for the last 45 minutes and keep getting the pairs slightly out of alighnment - great video - major frustration on my part! I NEED those passthru plugs - would make checking it a LOT easier than losing a bunch of plugs when the tester resturns the wrong pair
Go PassThru.. you know it makes sense :-) ... you're right though... with the traditional plugs.. it's difficult to see the ordering inside the plug, whereas with PassThru they pop out the otherside and there is no confusion about what's happening...PLUS, the diagram sits on the otherside. Thanks for pointing out this particular observation. There's two schools of thought when you wire one end wrong... 1) go ahead and wire the other end in exactly the wrong way ! or, 2) snip the end off and get it right ! :-) ... either way it will work. Thanks for your feedback.. much appreciated!
Can it be done without that special tool? I’ve got my 8 coloured wires in the rj45 plug. How is the copper core exposed to the pins in the rj45 plastic bit? Can it only be done with the tool?
I've been crimping RJ45's for 10+ years, got finger tips like a guitarist to prove it! Tough to watch your video but I'll give you 10 for effort :) It's cheaper and just as easy to do it with the standard RJ45s once you've done a few. CAT5e is easy, CAT6 can be a pain if you don't deal with the plastic divider well. I tend to pull the cores and the jacket back on themselves a bit and pull the plastic divider out (almost stretching it) a little before cutting it off, that way it tends to go back inside the jacket a little and gets out of your way.
If you want a tip to just remember the colours..... ORANGES grow on GREEN trees under a BLUE sky but to get GREEN leaves they need BROWN soil. Always start with white and go left to right. Swap the blue pair to start with the colour rather than the white. Never need a chart or Google ever again ;)
I have found that a fully populated network switch can have issue fitting a full 48 ports of booted RJ45s as they can push up on the side of each other and make it very tough to connect and disconnect, I even had connectivity issues caused because of this. Booted is still best practice though just be aware of the above.
I wouldn't recommend putting the RJ45 in the crimp first. Straighten out your cores, pinch the top of the jacket with one thumb and finger whilst wiggling the cores left and right a few times with your other hand to get them all straight and in order. With the crimp you can cut with the cutter side to get the exposed cores down to around 10-12mm and all in a straight line, you just do it by eye after a while, around length of your thumb nail. Now just carefully slide the RJ45 on, keeping a tight grip on the end of the jacket you were pinching will keep them in the right order. The end of the jacket should go in up to the mould line on the RJ45 and nicely past the plastic tab the crimp will push down on. You can now double check the cores are in the right order by looking through the plastic RJ45, if they are good crimp away, if not take out, adjust, check again and crimp away. This is usually the point where you say ah **** I forgot to put the boot on.
Andy, really appreciate the considered and constructive response. "Tough to watch your video"... even I'm struggling to watch it now :-) the production/edit wasn't so great, attention to detail not so great, so would probably have done it different and hopefully better now.
The tip for remembering colours... brilliant.. " ORANGES grow on GREEN trees under a BLUE sky but to get GREEN leaves they need BROWN soil.".. I've always used one for UK electrics which is the "The live BROWN worm sits on the YELLOW/GREEN earth looking at the neutral BLUE sky". Thanks for your addition.
I still have no idea why this video is generating so much interest, as opposed to my more recent improved ones, but if nothing else this one is generating conversation.
Thanks so much for your contribution.
But there is a lot of people are complaining about this tool; some say its miss 1 and 2 pins and some say it did not cut perfectly all the time. Advise please.
I've not had that issue/problem. You do have to squeeze that trigger hard until you reach resistance. It has no choice but to cut the wires. I've been using the tool ever since putting that video together and I like it.. It almost feels lazy not doing it the hard way. I would say.. if you've had success with the old method/tool, stick with it.. but I like the Klein tool because of the simplicity. Let me know where you've seen people having problems. Thanks for watching!
Do I need to buy pass through crimper or I can use the regular crimp tool. Want to know if I can use the pass through rj45 connector with standard crimp tool and then cut “passed” wires with scissors
You could use a regular crimping tool with the pass-thru connectors but I feel you'd probably have to use a sharp knife/blade to cut them flush as scissors wont get close enough and you might find you struggle to place the connectors securely in the RJ45 socket with a stub of wires sticking out.
Honestly though, once you've done one or two using the tradition crimper and traditional non-pass through plugs, you'll be on a roll. It's just about getting the right amount of outer PVC sheath. Go with the .. cut an inch of PVC sheath off, align the colours into correct order, then cut the inch down to half an inch. The sheath should be clamped once crimped.
Good luck! Let me know how you get on.
Always pin 1 and pin 8 give trouble on push through, WHY???
I have an old set I bought about 22 years ago that I been using for that long and decided to buy the new passthrough tool which mine looks like your standard crimper in the video actually both my pass through & standard looks pretty much alike only the pass through has other options but I found my pass through isn't crimping the ends right it's not breaking the wire to hit the electrodes or clip fingers I used my old crimps to crimp the pass through tighter and the cable works but it's slow is there a way to adjust the finger breaks on all these tools? I should look since I just figured this problem out.
the old crimper does not work thats why I need to buy newer crimper for pass through rj45. I only use the old crimper to cut the excess wires
Good snappy informative video, thanks.
hi can you use the old crimper tool with pass through connectors
Dennis.. Good question. I think technically/physically, yes you could.. but practically the results would be a bit hit and miss. I've just experimented in case I missed something. The reason is that the traditional tool has no blade to cut the wires that extend through the plug (the "pass thru" bit), so whilst you could thread all eight wires through the plug and then crimp it, you'd still have an excess of wire coming through the plug. I imagine you could use a Stanley/box knife to trim them down, although you'd have to take care not to damage the clip moulding that protrudes slightly. Did you envisage a scenario where you'd want to do use the pass-thru plugs with the traditional tool ?
Just FYI, someone else asked the counter question, about using normal (non pass-thru) RJ45 plugs in the Klein Tools Crimper, which initially I thought was not possible, but it is :-)
Thanks for watching.
In my experience, pass through crimps are rotten. Much better with conventional crimps and just taking your time when arranging the pairs. Most pass through crimps crush the protruding ends and can cause wires to short on one another.
Can you use the klein tools crimper for normal RJ45 connectors?
Arno, thanks so much for your question.. and apologies for the delayed response. I did look in to this based on a previous query:
So, I looked at the manufacturer's page
www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru
and they write:
"Not for use with standard (non Pass-Thru) connectors"
but i thought.. interesting. So I got a non Pass-Thru RJ45 connector and just successfully crimped it, no issues. In a way, everything about Pass-Thru and Non Pass-Thru plugs need to be identical, apart from the holes to allow the wires to pass thru on this crimper. Just comparing the two different plugs and they are identical in terms of the sheath clamp, wire pins, everything. So, can only imagine the the manufacturers clause is more about "would prefer you didn't... ". If I was crimping production cables I'd test the first few or so to give me a level of confidence.
Go for it, keep a mix of pass-thru and non-pass-thru in your tool box.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to ask a question. Much appreciated !
Hi, thanks a lot for the response! I have since then already bought the crimper and have also had no issues crimping non-pasthrough plugs as you mentioned.
I am too used to using normal plugs lol, i tried using the pass through and it failed.
I've used the normal plugs and crimpers for 20 years or so, and it was pure curiosity that I looked at the pass-thru crimper/plugs. There's definitely some benefits for newcomers to crimping and I would almost suggest fail-proof. But at the end of the day.. whatever method/tool works.. no need to change.
I like the traditional tool. I dont like pass through because it leaves open conductors exposed and depending on the application the emf at those ends can cause issues. Practicing crimping with the standard plug gets easy after a little while. Whichever you use always test it with a cable tester after.
@Henry Jones Henry, thanks for your comment. It’s definitely what you’re use to. I’ve been using a standard tool for years with little in the way of problems. However, what I found out recently is that the klein tool will crimp non-pass thru plugs so you get all the benefits. I really like the idea of the colour codes printed on the tool although for years carried a crib-card with the colours. and.. it crimps standard (non-pass thru) connectors
Why do we have a 568A and B?
The two standards came about to split up the 'pairs' in order to reduce cross-talk between wires/pairs. However, as to why this arrangement or why there's an A or B.. I had never considered this. Just been looking into it and found something pertinent if you were considering wiring at the Pentagon..
www.flukenetworks.com/knowledge-base/application-or-standards-articles-copper/differences-between-wiring-codes-t568a-vs
Most articles seem to implicate the US Government for the standards. Would be keen to hear from others on this subject. Great question. Thanks.
From what I remember in class, in the past we use to have to make 2 types of cables straight through and crossover. In straight through we used the same standard on both sides either 568A or 568B, then in crossover we use one standard on one end and another standard on the other. Then we used these different types of cables for different situations. The straight through cables were for dis-similar devices like from a PC network port to a switch, while a crossover cable were for similar devices eg switch to switch or pc to pc. But here is the most important thing to know. Most devices these days are auto sensing and don't need you to create crossover cables, you just need to make straight through and you are good to go the devices will automatically know how to connect to one another.
@@allthegear-noidea1298 The wiring order is for historical reasons. Originally modular plugs were designed for telephony. I'm not sure where the A pattern came from, but the B pattern is from a preexisting AT&T standard and had a fair amount of use before Ethernet became popular. Everyone learned the B pattern because the people teaching them had learned the B pattern, and the cycle has continued through to today.
The first circuit was on the center two pins, and the second circuit took the next set of pins out from the center. That applies not just to RJ45 but to RJ11/12 as well. I'm guessing they abandoned that pattern for circuits 3 and 4 because it becomes difficult to terminate the wires if the pairs have to split that far (or maybe to minimize the untwisted section for noise reasons).
For 10BaseT and 100BaseT, the center two pins are unused by networking so that they can be used for voice (although I've never seen it done and I'm not sure if that was ever recommended).
Great video. Thank you. Maybe put the boot on before you cut? All these videos should come with a disclaimer that it's not going to be as easy as they make it look. Buy extra cable and jacks!...and a continuity tester!😆
Continuity tester? lol. You test the continuity by waiting to see if your user calls you to complain about a poor connection!
I haven't gotten what i was looking for out of this video. You skipped right over the most annoying part - arranging the wires in the right order. I bet there's a trick to do that quicker and easier, but i haven't seen one yet. Every time i arrange them they end up crossing all the way across each other, then i have to undo and try to shift them all around until it's less horrible. There has to be a better way.
I feel you
CAT-5 is easier. This is what I do for CAT-6:
Strip the sheathing longer than you need to and untwist the pairs. Arrange them approximately how you want them.
Then take a screwdriver (or any thin, round, hard object), hold the wires against the shaft of the screwdriver with your thumb, and pull the wires through. All the kinks will be gone and all the wires will have a gentle curve.
Arrange the wires again, cut to length, crimp as usual.
It's an extra step, but I find it takes less time and gives me more consistent results.
hello how much is the price
Hi there. The product page for this crimper is here:
www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru
The price in the UK is approximately £50 (Screwfix, Amazon, RS, CEF, etc), seems to be about $50 in the US. Google for "VDV226-110" and you should be able to find it. Thanks for watching and your interest.
Can you use the pass-thru Crimper with a non pass-thru rj45?
Interesting question.. So, I looked at the manufacturer's page
www.kleintools.eu/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-cable-crimper-stripper-cutter-pass-thru
and they write:
"Not for use with standard (non Pass-Thru) connectors"
but i thought.. interesting. So I got a non Pass-Thru RJ45 connector and just successfully crimped it, no issues. In a way, everything about Pass-Thru and Non Pass-Thru plugs need to be identical, apart from the holes to allow the wires to pass thru on this crimper. Just comparing the two different plugs and they are identical in terms of the sheath clamp, wire pins, everything. So, can only imagine the the manufacturers clause is more about "would prefer you didn't... ". If I was crimping production cables I'd test the first few or so to give me a level of confidence.
Thanks for the question though!
Do you insert the cable with tab up?
Take a look at this image: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/6404/1539/files/T568A_vs_T568B___trueCABLE_1024x1024.jpg
It gives you a sense of where Pin 1 in relation to the the orientation of the plug (tab up or tab down). Pin 1 is the White/Orange strand for the T568B convention. The beauty of the KleinTools PassThru tool is that it shows you the colour ordering both in and out of the plug, so double verification. If you use a normal RJ45 crimping tool and using the T568B convention, with the tab at the bottom make sure you run through the white/orange as far left (Pin 1) as possible, and finally end up on solid brown (pin 8) far right. Then crimp away. Hope that helps.
@@allthegear-noidea1298 Thanks I printed that and took it with me. All worked well.:)
Which one is your preference??
Thanks for watching and the question. I've now settled on the Klein Tools Pass-Thru in my network toolbox. You just know you're going to get a good result everytime. Also, I find the fact that the tool has the markings/colour codes on the device itself means no more surfing or bringing the handy guide around. I got very competent with the old style tool knowing what length to cut at, but the Klein Tool just takes the thinking out of it. Upvote on the pass-thru. :-)
@@allthegear-noidea1298 then that is what I shall purchase. Thank you sir.
I like the traditional tool. I dont like pass through because it leaves open conductors exposed and depending on the application the emf at those ends can cause issues. Practicing crimping with the standard plug gets easy after a little while.
@@Henry_Jones Henry, thanks for your comment. It’s definitely what you’re use to. I’ve been using a standard tool for years with little in the way of problems. However, what I found out recently is that the klein tool will crimp non-pass thru plugs so you get all the benefits. I really like the idea of the colour codes printed on the tool.
Btw , you dont really exactly need to use the boot if you are rarely unplugging the cable and moving it all over the place. It doesnt really matter, the clip doesnt break as easily as thought.
It's definitely a personal choice. I think the boots have helped me in the past when I've had a tangle of cables and the clip gets caught up and you pull the cable through and it snaps. You're right in that I've rarely lost a clip from inserting/extracting a cable, it's what happens all those other times. :-) Thanks for your comment. - Dave
I was under the impression that is was mainly for strain relief on the cable. Isn't that why it's called a strain relief boot? I'd never heard about it protecting the clip.
You are correct. When extracting a plugged in cable there's a tendency to pull on the CAT 5/6/7 cable, whereas you should grip the strain relief boot, push down on the clip and remove it. That is it's main purpose. However, I think the secondary most beneficial one for me is when I have box full of cables and trying find one, you just know that the cable without a boot is going to get its clip caught on another cable and get pulled back.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@mlordwhiteslayerfromf.u.g when ordering predone cables, all the 'booted' versions are usally called snagless. Boots on user devices like computers etc, no boots on racks, ever.
I use Klein Tool pass through crimp tool and never going back to traditional crimping tool.
I think it's a "Marmite" moment, you either love it or hate it... I love it.
You didn't even put them in the right order..
Well spotted, around the 07:00 mark. Some of the shots took a few takes and I think accuracy went out the window with ordering the pairs after a while :-) .. My other thought (excuse!) was that it was more about the principle.
In my defence though, the standard could be looked at as a recommendation rather than a rule, and if one has made a mistake on one of the plugs, just make sure you repeat the mistake on the other end :-)
Thanks for the eagle eye viewing.. I thought this would have come up earlier...
@@allthegear-noidea1298 WTF! are you kidding ? or you joking ? YOU want to use T56A or T56B not your own color code!
loool I spotted that as well, like one of those videos where they just stick it into the RJ45 and push down the pins with a flat head screw driver!
Exactly. Putting the wires in the right order is the hardest part with the traditional way and it is a pita, and here on this video he pretends to do it right when he clearly doesn't... Tf
YEAH !@@djabthrash
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