When France Absolutely BULLIES The Pantsir - Mirage 2000-5F - War Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The French Mirage 2000-5F takes the D-R1 and gives it a set of amazing guns, and some extra ordinance to make the Pantsirs suffer in top tier!
00:00 - So whats new?
03:28 - Let's Boolie Pantsirs!
21:25 - The Booli'ing Concludes
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I see "bullies Pantsir" - I click
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@@IlllIlIlIIlll I see "Mirage" - I click
I see "Cas" - I click
I see "Jets" - I click
Monkey see monkey do. Neuron activation.
Don't forget that compared to the pod on the Mirage 2000D you have the DAMOCLES with three times the magnification and third generation thermals! It's the highest magnification in the game (for aircraft) with IIRC x96 zoom
God damn
Wouldn't be quite 3rd gen, in game it would be gen 2+, it's 1080x720, which is very similar to the helicopter gen 2+ resolution of 1024x768. Gen 3 would be 1200x800.
The A-6E (due to a bug) also got a thermal resolution upgrade, it uses now the helicopter resolution of 1024x768, but only if you have the NVD mod equipped I believe.
Also according to datamines, the highest zoom will soon go to the Jaguar A and E, with 12x-150x zoom roughly (from 6x-25x it is now). They are not FLIR pods tho, so it's not nearly as good still. Not sure if this is really an upgrade altogether either, it will be more annoying to use if you don't have a zoom axis binded and losing the wider fov is kinda sad as well.
The DeMarcus pod
Apparently magnification of Apaches gonna be /2 soon, so DAMOCLES would simply have the best magnification in the game.
@@Wotplaya4 any news if the tornado pod get reworked too?🗿🗿
TV guidance was improved recently, when launching in POINT mode it can switch to TRACK in flight without exploding, so now you can do 20km yeets with PGMs (though ground vehicles don't render in at that range I think so you still have to be a bit closer)
How does it work? At 20km, it's point and if the target doesn't move, the AGM changes to Track mode?
Massive French W. France is finally somewhat relevant at top tier.
The 2000-5F is a breeze to play, glad to see you enjoying it !!
It’s been relevant since the 2000C/D were out
France is getting better and better, this update was good for France
Man, that Mirage skin looks super slick.
you missed the fact that you can take the 2000D along side it since its an attacker
As for the difference between the leclerc S1 is the base variants, the S2 got its embarqued electronic upgraded, recieve an AC (the big pack on top of the turrets and irl recieve a DU round and the SXXI got an global imprvement to its fcs, modernising all the sights (in game it get a citv that is more boxy than the one found n the previous modele), and its composite has been upgraded with titanium (and the bigger armor block on front of the optics.
I did not think of that!
S2 and S21 should have a new shell too
as far as in game goes, the various Leclercs are practically identical apart from the points you've mentionned, IRL it was subsequent upgrades, some to systems, some to reliability, rarely to performance, I'd like to see the reload buffed to 5.5s at least personally or at least a new shell since the OFL 120 F1 is in the game since May 2019 and quite a few better shells have been made since for the Leclercs
The armor is supposed to change too from the 3 ravient we have in game but it is not modeled in game
I agree with that. :P
CAS is my favorite type of content in War Thunder videos.
I bet 100 dollars that Gaijin will either nerf all CAS or buff Pantsir next update
all SPAA SAM are bad in combat after the update with the exception of the pantsir that are more or less acceptable
They nerfed ALL SAM
They neared AA and you CAS mains still complain..
French CAS is just so good, the camera is amazing with not losing track and its actually really good at zoom which alot of other planes struggle from.
It might be the most modern aircraft in game.
francepilled. i love to see France content in war thunder.. if you're feeling brave and want to go into midtier, maybe you could even show off the big 7.3-7.7 lineup. works pretty well imo, only thing it lacks is AA... happy fourth of july
Only problem about this aircraft is that it has a pretty low missile count compared to other jets at its BR. It’s pretty solid even with the drawbacks tho.
The day it gets its 6 missiles loadout is the day it gets the MICA, which would mean it's going to 13.0 BR.
@@lsq7833 maybe it's the same day the mig-29 got its r-73
@@irgiefarras2159 Yeah, but MICA are quite considerably better, with long ranges (especially for the IR variant), 50Gs with engines on, 30-35Gs engines off, potent IRCCM, and used by a plane with a far better radar. Gone will be the days when the mig29 will be able to shot first and not care about incoming enemy missiles. I expect the arrival of somethings like mig31 and su27 to compete with their sheer load of missiles.
THIS GUY PRONOUNCED LECLERC PERFECTLY !!!! GIVE THIS MAN MEDAL OF HONOR
great video Justin I was in a four stack on the other team on the last map you destroyed us that game well played. It was fun playing against you.
We love you Justin just try to make yourself happy and enjoy your life dude
Yay Justin made it in the Video 18:25 and you shot my whole gun but ey was nice to meet you ingame xD
Mirage “taking the Pants off The Sir” an extra S but it works😉
That would have been a fire video title
I can feel you when you suffering from the heat because I live in Arizona and in Arizona would get to 113f during April or something in late March and during the late summer can get to 118-120f or 45c or 50c and the last 3 year have been more Humid and even during the night it still is 100f or 105f
You are really selling me on top tier France.
Serie 2 has electric air conditionning and a data transmission to the commander vehicule, mainly. it further got a better thermal sight
Seeing somebody slapping those pantsirs so hard feels so good!
The fuel does that to me all the time it’s hell 😂
11:50 "We have lost every single game except for the beginning" That sums up the top tier France experience at the moment. Facing russia pretty much every single game will do this to you.
Finally A French plane delivering freshly baked baguette to the enemies
Killed 13 of these so far, my pantsir reigns supreme as I've yet to be killed by one
the difference between the S.1 and S2 are , better cooling fins on the breaks and sponsons (you can see it in game) the big box in the back of the turret is an NBC-AC unit, some appliqué armor on the sponsons (modeled in game) and then it's mostly battlefield datalink
on thing to mention, is that the Leclerc should not have more exhauts fumes when accelerating because of it's Hyperbar engine
Hello there ! Thanks for this nice vid about this beautiful plane !
Between S1 and S2, there are no major changes to the game.
The addition of air conditioning for the crew, which you can see at the rear of the turret, and IRL improvements that don't add much to the game. I'm almost tempted to say that, in its current state, the S1 is better because it's lighter without the air conditioning, and as long the S2 don't get more powerfull ammo.
However, from S2 onwards, all Leclercs can wear the AZUR armour package. I still hope Gajin add them.
As for the SXXI's armour, unfortunately all the internal armour is supposed to be reinforced with titanium, so it shouldn't just be a few centimetres around the gunner like in WT, but a whole armour upgrade (which is already some armour far from realistic even on previous versions).
And of course, better shells... I'm sad that the Leclercs is the only MBT top tier not to receive any new shells (nothing since the first release) when almost everyone else has received better ones.
Just to illustrate, the next Leclerc to come into WT is logically the XLR, but the shell that should already be there for the Leclercs in game wouldn't even be suitable as the basic XLR shell because it's totally obsolete.
Sad powercreep, from the armor, the mobility (it's a 1500hp hyperbar, the second the pilot presses the accelerator he has 1500hp, the power is direct...at least IRL. And the turret should rotate around 40°/s, way more than actual number) and the shells..
Look a little race between a Leclerc and the VBCI : ruclips.net/video/iPDePYE__ls/видео.html
Turning to the Magic 2, it's funny that you say they're going all out on the flares, because according to Gaijin, they're the most resistant missiles (and bonus: they should be even more resistant to countermeasures than they are now).
they did something with the overpressure mechanic.. the 2SM used to be a beast with the air burst munition even on most tanks.. and now you can't even get a kill on a sherman.. any sherman
3:10 Freudian slip lmao
Gg and sorry to strela you at the end of the last game dude. It’s a BS system in game. Still surprised you survived two hits from the Tunguska guns. o7 and see ya around
Ah man come on but gg anyway good to have in the match :)
Mirage is such a scary aircraft to fight
This is BF4 levels of bullying ground worms
Just as a side not it's not a camera, they're called TGP's, ie targeting pods
This wants me to put myself through pain to get this plane from t1
the PGM TV bombs are like, rocket assisted bombs
They're buggy as all hell right now. Randomly self detonating, and fall short at times.
the sXXI is supposed to have better rounds as well as an upgraded composite layout not just of the turret face but the entire tank, it has also changed the era layout of the turret bustle, there are probably other changes but those are the ones that stand out as applicable to warthunder
11:36 the Pantsir that killed you got a Nuke, he j'd out and his vehicle changed from Pantsir to Su-7BKl 😅
The Pantsir Plunderer
The S2 gets an air conditioner.
Justin, i want you to teach me how to play CAs at high br.. lol... i suck at it, cos i dont own that great jets yet. my best cas is the A10A, and i barely have any experience in it. :-P
Ja37 has m/70 rockets wich onetap alot fun to use aswel
The bomb isn’t restated…it’s special😂
As a french im proud someone finally said french vehicules are good
Can you give the USH a try it wrecks on 11.0 super fast and rockets that can alot just a slow rotation speed
I was sad to see no pgms in this video maybe another one using them in this thing or tornado gr1
what is the weird visual glitch @15:03 ? Never seen it before
11:37 this guy just got a nuke !
SXXI should get its long rod DU round
Just big fan love the content please do a MiG 27K video
Soon.
Why dont guide AS30L and GBU same time?
I think the best part is that this and the 2000D-R1 dont share the same SP since this is a fighter and not a strike aircraft so its worth it to bring both
Entirely true, and it has found a good place in my lineup xP
Why didn´t you take flers and chaffs?
11:38 did u know the pan stir that killed you turned into a nuke?
Hey justin could you do a video with the su22um3k?
16:40: The difference between the S1 and S2 is the AC system for the inside of the tank, so in game it gives you no advantage and actually makes the tank and turret less responsive due to both being heavier. The SXXI has improved armor, battlefield management systems and sights, but the additional armor isn't modelled because gaijin hates the Leclerc for some reason:
- Underperforming armor and excessive spalling. There's a thread about both on the forums, the UFP is an absolute tragedy and there's a video of the most ridiculous kill ever due to the insane spalling: A shell going above and parallel to the track kills all crew members.
- Mobility is underperforming as well: The Leclerc has a unique combination of diesel engine and gas turbine where the turbine fills the role of the turbocharger which eliminates turbo lag and makes the tank far more responsive and gives it great acceleration. There's a video of a Leclerc racing a VBCI on youtube and the Leclerc actually leads for a good part of it (it's pretty easy to find, just type the name of both vehicles) . That's not modelled in game because reasons.
- Nuclear fuel tanks
- Missing its best APFDS shells
- Reload is slower than it could be
And forgot to mention: Love your content Justin!
What's a nuclear fuel tank?
@@adrien5834 It's just a way of saying that they're a massive weak spot and will be the cause of many one-hit deaths due to how vulnerable they are. It's beyond ridiculous how fragile they are.
@@garargus4948 Oh, right. Thx.
pls do a video with german tornado
can you teach me how i can get b 29a fast?
Also Mirage 2000 5F got the best radar in game and can carry MDBA Mica
Me with the Phantom II and spamming 6 Mavericks from 25km out
well thats bs. ground targets dont load for locking beyond 20km. even lock on after launch doesnt work then.
i cant wait for gaijin to make this plane as good in air-air as it is at CAS by buffing magic 2 to 50G (cuz u know... 2 fox 2...) or by adding some nerfed MICA missiles which come by 6 (cuz you know... 4 to 6 fox 2 is quite normal at top tier)
Fun fact any plane can bully SAMs like the pantsir since the missile nerf. Now SAM missiles cant pull for shit you just need to do a few turns and you are safe. Plus SAM radars will not keep a steady lock on target making it near impossible to hit anything moving at speed. Which the SAM systems were build to do...
Have to say strela in top tier is stealth af. best for low flying supersonic hahha
12:37 if you think thats bad, the KA-52 and Mi-28NM have a DIRCM that completely stops all Stingers and Type-91s from locking making Japan's top tier AA fucking worthless against them
Sweden Italy germany israel and USA also have IRCM.. just just mention russia because you have a skill issue against them
@@Skinny6539 except the stingers and Type-91 arent affected by the IRCM because they have ECM (their IRCM only works for you basic IR AAM) , the russian KA-52 and MI-28NM have DIRCM which can fuck over the IR SAM's seekers. And anyway, you literally cant have a skill issue when using something thats fire and forget my guy?
Min 6:54, It was me haha I launched a misiles (aim54c) cuz I got mad and try to kill the enemy jet (you) hshshshhs im Quiet_02
Realistic AS FCK
difference between Series 1 and 2 is that the Series 2 was made for the UAE, and so was given more protection against sand (more filters in the gas turbine engine, more mudguards and stuff), and hot climate (there is an AC unit on the turret roof)
Nope, the series 2 wasn't made for the UAE at all. That's the tropicalized version. With a much stronger AC, an RWS, different CITV and interface, and a different engine with an APU in an external armored box.
Day one of asking you to play the Udes 33 in the Swedish tech tree (7.7 atgm with 20 degree depression)
Leclerc S2 has AC no I'm serious
Woooooo!
I mean it’s too funny… Russians locking up the air with 7-9 pantsir per game meanwhile if you are lucky your own team maybe has 1 Ito90 or flarak and both of them are nowhere near as good as the pantsir… I really wonder what gaijin was thinking adding these
I wish Japan had something like this. I have both the F-16AJ and AH-64DJP, but I seem to have no opportunities to use either. Either killed by Pantsirs, planes, or Ka-50/52s. Speaking of good SPAA, Japan doesn’t get that either. Also doesn’t help I keep getting put against Russia, so I’ve lost like 40 games in a row now. Russian bias or not, the statistics do not lie that something needs to be done because top tier is a one-sided game rn.
10:44 Still could've gotten the helicopter. And use the radar gunsight!!
The radar on the -5 is WAY better than on the C, it's basically unnotchable.
They nerfed it
@@Skinny6539 of course they did.
Justin if you want to avoid missile while keeping your camera in sight, fly perpendicular to your target
Like you notching radar missile, AA can't hit you at all If you fly at mach 1+ and perpendicular
That's what I usually do, my only gripe is that the camera at such angles will lose tracking and veer off. Hence my more direct approach, initially.
Not true, nailed a fair few F16 players whilst they were doing that shit
@@mattthesedg4238 What F-16 has targeting pod to use their camera in sight and fly perpendicular? None of them have targeting pods, so what were they doing?
@@JustinPlaysTV I just did it in test flight, and couldn't get the camera to lose tracking and veer off, this was the case during dev server but not anymore since a report was put in to fix it.
@@warthundershowcasing8905 Point being they were afterburning perpendicular to my position.... Still killed them.. it's all about manual targeting and very gentle missile course correction, that explains my like 5.0 KD with the pantsir, that and good positioning on the maps
15:11 I would disagree. The missiles are best reserved for AA so you can put some distance between you and the target and destroy it ASAP, while MBTs can’t do anything g to you so you can take your time with bombs.
🤓
3 years into it and the farthest I’ve gotten is the Jaguar……
People keep saying "oH nO CaS oP" especially at top tier but it really requires a lot more skill to be successful than people think. Easier now with the missile nerf but really, just how many planes can you spawn? Once then you're probably done, a little mistake and that's 700-750 spawn points wasted. These Pantsir spammers can spawn 2 (or any of these top tier SPAAs for that matter) with less spawn points than an MBT, clear the skies like braindead bots, point and clicking from beyond spawn range and spawn a KA-50 or some other bullshit they want. Playing SPAA at top tier has way less risk than CAS, and that's probably the point. The skill required to be successful with CAS vs SPAA especially with the introduction of the Pantsir pre missile rework is too far in between.
The j35a’s cannons don’t even shoot that fast
I mean my Pantsir kill all cancer Cas in every game without a Problem
WHERE ARE THE MICA ???
If ur high skilled then f16 USA is much better option for G rb . 3 gbus and 3 mavericks + 4 great aa ms ! If ur lucky and etc sometimes u can make 5-6 ground kills but usually 4-5 and few air targets in just 1 run . My personal record is 11 ground targets with 3 air in 1 game . Could get more but no more targets left lol
F16A is ass, mirage better
It's far less convenient and reliable, you have bad zoom options, no thermals and very limited view angles, can't change targets on the fly, also if it's a night battle you're screwed overall I'd say the mirage is better due to more numerous use cases
@@thcfck6870 yeah show me ur KD on mirage and I will show u mine on F16 … if ur low skill that’s the only case it’s a better option . U can get more kills without issues on f16 if u know what to do. Plus there are no night battles anymore and I used to leave all night games no matter what nation I play , cause I’m not an idiot to suck that shit that kills ur eyes
@@gavrilovdenis153 if you feel personally attacked by what is simply an observation then you should probably lay down for a bit, also I don't believe that properly choosing my vehicles is a skill issue nor is sacrificing a tiny bit of firepower for convenience and especially versatility
@@thcfck6870 lol the main difference it’s hard to get 3-4 ground targets and u have only 2 aa ms and they are worse than f16s.. Plus f16 is 100% more safe to play vs c1 . So yeah ur not giving away a bit of fire power u give away 2-4 more potential kills that are very important to win some games . Plus I get those kills in 2-3 runs . To get in 1 game not 5 kills but to get 10-15 kills u have to be fast and f16 gives u much more to get faster and more kills . Like I said mirage is for low skills kids like mig27k but u can’t get as many kills as I can in a short period of time
11:30 he spawn with NUKE after he kill you
Justin, since you’re a Russian main, what should I get first; T-72B or T-64B??
Yes.
@@JustinPlaysTV what yes?😂😂
Which one first my champ?
@@PanzerSteinn i like 64B more, it also the way to a better tank which is T-80s line
@@ryzkiguruh2942but on the other line there is a T-90A the beloved tank
But thank you for the advice
@@PanzerSteinn well you can go for the T-72 line and just add T-80UK when you reach T-90A. Personally i like -12Km/s more than -4.5Km/s reverse speed. Give you more room to engage target
about the leclercs, the s2 is just worse than the s1 (it is heavier because of nothing)
No idea what the difference is with the S2 that makes it as heavy as the S21 without the extra armor, besides an AC unit 😂. Objectively, it’s the worst one lol
You make ground RB look way too easy.
Should I grind France or Japan?
The F4EJKai is a lackluster top tier jet, and the F16 you can just play like half of the other nations, but nothing can ever replace the T2 to me. France has unique jets, and I really like the interceptor Vautour, but I'm only in tier 5. Sadly in terms of ground Im only like 6.? in Japan and 3.0 in france. In terms of Air I would say to go for Japan if you like props, and France if you like jets
We for sure have a great CAS, ask the Syrians
the s2 has ac
damn he makes dodging Pantsirs so easy, this is gonna get Russian mains to complain that the Pantsir needs a buff
It actually got a huge nerf since the last patch which it really didn't need.
It really need, Its by far the best AA from the game.
@@TheDominiqueGit 100% did need it..
@@lenoxDwell since Gaijin decided to nerf all SPAA, CAS is once again beyond dominant in Ground RB. CAS mains just need to realize that at some point they are going to need to learn and adapt instead of getting hand fed free kills from Gaijin
I’m not saying the Pantsir didn’t need to be nerfed, imo they had better and cheaper options like the upgraded TOR for Russia with only maybe an extra 1-2 km range and better missiles than the current TOR for China. I’m just saying that in Ground RB, I shouldn’t see the enemy team spawn in like 5-7 jets all at the same time, even at low tiers the CAS spam is ridiculous. And I’ve lost games on both sides of the CAS plague, I’ve lost games from being completely overwhelmed and spawn killed by CAS and I’ve lost games when most (sometimes all) of my teammates get in planes and provide barely any support on the ground. I do understand the roll that CAS plays but I’m getting to a point with it that I’m starting to actually agree with the percentage of people that think having a ground only mode would be better than what we have now
You know, i feel slightly retarded for now just realizing that gaijin models the composite armor on western mbts to be underperforming while for Russian tanks to be overperforming to all hell
Well u couldn't think of a cleverer title ig 14:08
Don't challenge a modern aircraft to glide to the airbase when the fuel is off.
My F-4F flew without fuel for 5 minutes with no problem
16:50 Leclerc S1 is a little bit faster than S2 and SXXI, it weight less and SXXI has a powerful almight gunner 40mm extra protection with commander thermal😂😂😂 all are copy + paste sadly
2 wievs 2 likes, perfect balance
Suiii
Happy treason day to you too Justin!
…Jesus, I love Americans but the 4th of July… sheeesh
At least my birthday is July 3rd I guess?
Happy legalized explosives day, everybody!
So I personally love the Mirage, When I chose to main France I wanted those as-30s just to prove Russian bias won't stop me from showing Russia who's aircraft is better! Just wish console players like me could get custom skins or use the gaijin store so I could get my justin decal.