🇿🇦 🇧🇼American Couple Reacts "African Traditional Tswana Wedding - Lobola Proceedings"
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- 🇿🇦 American Couple Reacts "African Traditional Tswana Wedding - Lobola Proceedings" | The Demouchets REACT SOUTH AFRICA
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Small correction: Batswana don't call it lobola. That's isiZulu. We call it magadi. Same thing different word, only because it's a different language ❤🎉🎉
True, it is bogadi or magadi in setswana
Y'all have my people on today, I am Motswana by ethnicity, not nationality (I'm South African, not from Botswana). I'm just wanted to say yay for this upload before even watching it💃🏾💃🏾
That is snuff what they put in their noses, and we have that private conversation called *Go laya* when they tell the women how to treat the husband and her duties and the same as for the husband
They don't mean sniffing coke Fam😂but it's actually a play showing that after having babies you grow old and become a grandmother....in our culture most old grannies usually sniff/smoke Snuff intshu (tobacco leaves used for smoking via nostrils)
Hi guys, i enjoy watching your reaction content on Africa you have come a long way and have learned a lot about Africa and my country South Africa 🇿🇦 the women in blue are from the groom's family or tribe and they are mainly there to show or teach the bride on what is expected of her when she joins her husband's family, the baby gesture symbolizes child bearing and the sniffing gesture symbolizes tobacco for elders also the sweeping gesture for chores etc, the people wearing regular clothes are probably from the bride's family and neighbors and also those who are invited to the celebration, when the groom arrives it symbolizes the acceptance and that he is now permitted to enter the bride's family compound and is recognized as a "son in law". The songs also carry a message like when they are singing facing the door they are asking for the bride to come out so they can see her because she is now fully their "daughter in law", after all the traditional ceremonies are done the couple can now decide if they want to do a western wedding (depending if they have the budget for it) if not the traditional wedding is also recognized as lawful in South Africa. I can't wait to see you guys landing on South African soil 💞
Thank you for explaining to us, Sisi. We find the more things are the same amongst the tribes, the more they are different. That’s the beauty of learning! Soon, soon!❤️
What I like about traditional wedding the are no invitation everyone in the village is welcome to join and celebrate 😂❤
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The Tswana Lady just marked the register 😍😍😍😍. Alililili
Its the confusion for me. Thanks for representing the Diamond 💎 country
I swear I love the confusion and how yol try make sense of everything but you'd find that not all is as deep as you see it.😄. Dion gets alot of things for some weird reason, which is not to say CeeCee you don't get stuff but you are more connected to African'ess on a more spiritual plane if that makes sense
This is exactly it, fam!😂
My tribe finally💃💃
The first part of the video happened at the brides house. The part with the men sitting in the house, the bride has been taken to the grooms house and she is being welcomed.
The women singing and wearing blue are the grooms representatives.
Setswana weedings depend on the tribe youre married into.
The negotiations are done in private, theyre rarely shown on camera.
At 4:52, those women are doing a little bit of demonstrating the use of smokeless tobacco called snuff, or sneif in Afrikaans, snuff is simply a smokeless tobacco made from finely ground or shredded tobacco leaves. It may have different scents and flavors and may be moist or dry. Moist snuff tobacco is placed in the mouth, usually between the cheek and gum or behind the upper or lower lip. Dry snuff tobacco is inhaled through the nose and is mostly used by very old people and in cases of younger people, its common in traditional healers and people who have the gift of communicating with our ancestors on our behalf. They believe snuff calms their nerves after sneezing.
I wish u knew Setswana language, because some of the wedding proceedings are entailed in those traditional songs.
Wow this reminds me of my cousin's wedding 2 years back. We took her to her in-laws and they were wearing this and singing the songs. The first song when they go in basically says '' Please tell the uncles that the nephew is getting married''. It's a beautiful song. Setswana wedding are beautiful. Love this reaction Fam ❤
Thanks for the reaction ❤️🇿🇦
First part was the Patlo and Lobola (Magadi)...the second part i think is the Kgoroso (Arrival of the Bride to the Grooms place). Kgoroso happens at the Grooms home..
Bra our weddings are 2 days long, celebrate ate the wife's place then the next day celebrate at the grooms place... this singing drinking and celebration take an entire weekend
This was very delightful to rewatch because I don't remember the video.
It’s not Lobola in Botswana it’s called Bogadi 🎉🎉🎉
It might be slightly confusing seeing Batswana of South Africa🇿🇦 and Batswana from Botswana 🇧🇼 commenting but same culture different regions. A little history reveals we used to be in one region only extended due to wars with Colonial forces.
Thanks guys enjoyed your reaction❤….this takes me back to my traditional wedding last year. As the bride, looking out the window, waiting for those women in blue to call me out. Gosh! was I nervous and excited at the same time😅
The lobola is only the negotiating, the bride is not going with the groom’s family unless they doing one celebration but normally after this then comes the white wedding 😊
I love you guys maan thats it,I just love your channel❤
The first scenes of the video shows what we call PATLO( The traditional wedding) theres one for men and women respectively usually the men meet around 5 am at the KGOTLA where the groom will be given what is expected of him as a HUSBAND and a married man in his household and the community at large( there are roles that are only meant for married men such as sitting in for MAGADI(lobola) negotiations)...after they are done thats when now the women can start their session(the scenes where they were acting) where the bride also will be told what is expected of her as a WIFE and a married woman in her household and the community at large(also there are roles that are only meant for a married woman) .... The second part of the video is what we call KGOROSO, so now the WIFE's family will now be officially handing her over to the HUSBAND's family.
NB:That checked blanket(shawl) is only worn by married women and married men put on a coat
Finally 🎉🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼
Well, she was there to be told the rules and regulations. The wife duties, her responsibility as a daughter-in-law how to dress, how to carry herself, what time she should wake up. How long she should wear her bridal attire (not the one in the video), just clothes similar to her attire. Meaning, she first came with her family all the way to the grooms house, and then the grooms family took her in. Went to a specific bedroom/room to have a word with her. Spoken to the elderly woman and also selected what for her to wear as it'll be the attire they chose for her to show they had accepted her and gave her a new name. If her name was Sarah Lauw, now she would be known as Sarah Sharon Smith. Because, while the grooms family is busy helping her dress up, they are telling her about her duties as the new daughter-in-law and so forth. So after she comes out, she'd step out with her husband, meaning traditionally, they are married according to the customs. So, yes, they are officially married. The bride price is fully paid, and now this is only the celebration being officially husband and wife.
Then in future if they wish they will celebrate by having a white wedding if they want.
It's like these in :
Sesotho, SeTswana, IsiZulu, IsiXhosa, SePedi, and so forth. But, not much if you're married to a Afrikaans or English family they don't often practice these types of customers.
As a person of Tswana descent with not much exposure to my culture I've learned a lot. Also you asked why the grooms family isn't in attire I don't know much but usually is SA people of different tribes get married so its probably because they are giving the bride away to the grooms family rather than the other way around so but like I said I don't know much either.
I think the people that weren't wearing attire might be guests not necessarily invited.
the nose sniffing gesture is a portrayal of old age as a lot of grannies maybe grandpas too sniff Motsoko/Snurf
This is my culture
You are right. The bride and groom and told their roles in marriage. The roles can be playfully demonstrated on the occasion of the payment of the 'magadi' in Botswana. These roles are passed on my by married men and women. In effect, they are also welcoming the couple into the married people club.
First and foremost I would to thank you family for this awesome reaction video…usually the uncles from both the groom and brides families come together and negotiate how much is required from the grooms family in exchange for the bride…once that part is finalised than the wedding proceedings can begin…usually the negotiations are done in the early hours of the morning so that the gift sharing can also be done in the same day before the bride Is handed over to the grooms family.
I am Tswana💯
After lobola has been finalized. We do gifting ceremony, where the brides family was seen dramatist the duties the bride is expected to perform at the in laws. She is also given laws or guidance on how to represent the family at the in laws. Once that is done. The groom is coming with his people then the gifting ceremony starts. The grooms family gifts the bride's family then the following day the bride is taken to the groom's family for an official handover. Then it's the bride's family's turn to gift the grooms family. One that is done, then they can do a western wedding. It can be done after a month or a week depends on your financial status.
Its a traditional wedding before the white wedding
Was this neo montja request?
The first part is at the brides family, the grooms family came to pay the bride price(magadi) then we celebrate. Normally everyone wearing a blanket is married woman, everyone wearing normal clothes is not single.
The second part of the video the brides family take the newly wed woman to her inlaws to get dressed in his tribes attire.
8:20 They are officially there to collecting the bride after the value of who & what the bride is, is paid, so in essence the family of the groom was there to state all the T's & C's of the contract
They're showing her what is expected of her the sniffing is showing her she'll grow old in their family and end taking snuff traditional tobacco normally taken by old ladies
The ones in blue are from the groom’s side. They went to the bride’s house to get her. The sniffing is of tobacco used to be done by elderly women, not that common anymore
Hi guys great reaction once again...by the way the sniffing is not about heavy drugs😅 its called snyf elders sniff it...its kinda like a mini version of a cigarette but it's totally allowed in our cultures its black like powder used mostly by old women.❤
Smoking snaff and sneezing.😊
The other people in different colors are a mixture of both families.
Dion is right. When she was brought in she wore her own regalia. But went into the house to be dressed like the rest of wives in the groom's family. Now she's dressed like them and she welcomed as a part of the groom's family. She's officially a part of them. And the lady escorting her out is her relative, handing her over.
The sniffing is for tobacco which was widely practiced in many communities by elderly.
Sniffing crushed Tobacco we call it Snuff or Sneifi..lol
🎉🎉😂😂❤❤
Snuff is like powered cigarettes taken by over 60yrs both men and women. Its harmless.
The negotiations happen at the brides house.
The sniffing signifies snuffing, many traditional elders in Africa do snuff actually.
They are not sniffing coke, its tobacco which elder women sniff when they get older in many African tribes
The grooms family have come to collect the wife
Haha😂 it's not coccaine, our grandma's here smoke snuff, AKA tobacco when they grow old and gossip up the whole area
The dude is right 😂
sneif or that sniff thing they did is an acceptable part of our culture practised mostly by elders. it s just herbs
It's called a hand over
It’s tobacco snuff not cocaine please.
That's not cocaine but tobacco for old women.
That's why they were walking like grannies
The sniff ain't what you think it is but it's whats called traditional tobacco which some people intake through the nose.
Not everyone does this but some people do it, especially people whom are or rather have a higher spiritual connection especially with the underground gang/ancestors/Amadlozi.
Honestly, we didn’t know what to think it was but thank you for sharing this with us.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT you're welcome😄 . I swear I thought it was some of that white powder too when I 1st saw it but I recalled that it's a thing that happens. P.S I'm xhosa so I don't know much about tswana culture but there's some minor similarities we share here and there
@@siphoadonis you killed me with the "underground gang" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
Check Xhosa traditional wedding
@@TheDemouchetsREACT that's Ntsu, some people use it merely for headache/migraine because it has the vicks smell and sensation in it. All that was said above is also true.