Logging your property-What you need to know- Project 291 Forestry consultant assessment (1/2)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Do you own land, or are you thinking of buying land with woods on it? If so then this 2 part mini series is definitely for you. Join us today on our new investment property 'Project 291' which is a Southern Illinois property with lots of hardwood ridges and lots of overgrown pasture fields. Today I will join Forestry consultant Michael Brenner, from Brenner's Forestry LLC as we take a property tour and a 'timber cruise' lite if you will for our first potential timber harvest property assessment. I absolutely learned a ton today on this forestry consult as I asked a lot of 'why' questions and I think you will enjoy tagging along on this timber cruise. Not to mention it was a sunny and beautiful day to take a walk in the woods! If you are a new viewer, here are the links to the first few episodes of this Investment property, as we have already improved one 20 acre parcel which was sold by the previous owner:
(Before we owned it): Cutting a half mile of trails through the woods so the surveyors have access to the first parcels. • Cutting a HALF Mile of...
EP #1 cutting a new road system on 20 acre property:
• EP #1 20 acre project ...
EP #2 clearing land for a new cabin/pole barn sight on the 20 acre property:
• EP #2 20 acre project ...
EP #3 clearing new trails and a micro food plot opening in the woods:
• EP #3 20 acre project ...
EP #4 rough grading and clean up of the excavation work:
• EP #4 20 acre project ...
EP #5 DJI mini 3 pro drone tour of 20 acre property after project completion: • DJI mini 3 pro 4k Dron...
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You don't need to hire some fancy guy with a piece of paper, just an honest guy who knows proper forestry practices, the smaller operations generally will give you the best deal too
We just went thru a select cut on 200 of our 320 acres about 2 years ago. I had a forestry consultant come out but he never got back with me on a review on what should be taken down. We were having red oaks rotting and falling over our fencing. It hadn't been hardwood timber cut in at least over 90 years. We had them take 24 inch in diameter and higher except to leave 1 or 2 bigger trees than that every acre. We want to get back into it again in 10 years. TBH, it doesn't even look like it's been touched and we got 60k out of it. We've got tree tops and rotten logs everywhere after the timber cut. I'm getting a sawmill to work on the timber left on the ground so I can build 2 or 3 small cabins(approx 12 x 12) to enjoy ourselves in the outdoors. Our family waited 20 years too long to cut to keep the forest healthy. My dad and his dad didn't take into consideration that the trees would start rotting from invasive insects and aging. As a long term land owner, I wouldn't touch yours for another 5 to 10 years. Your forest isn't dense enough for my personal tastes.
Sounds like you did pretty well considering some trees died. It's all a learning curve, we'll see how the bids come out. Remember this is an investment property and not meant for a long term ownership. We may or may not log it, depends on a few factors. Thanks
@@KapperOutdoors2.0 The more you cut, the less the land us worth. It will probably be a wash.
Subscriber for 4 years, this video is in the top 10 you have put out. Great Information. Thanks
Wow, thanks! And these kinds of videos are the easiest to edit! lol. I wish some of the ones that I put 10 hours of editing into would take off! Thanks have a good one!
Agree… so much great information in a short amount of time
Really good information.that’s what I love about this channel. Always keeping it 100 % real!! I’d like to log my property but it’s hard finding trustworthy people nowadays. Thanks Kapper
I get that. We met with a couple guys and my cousin got a bad vibe about them and passed. These guys had very good reviews, I should have pushed for them a little harder. I think we would have gotten more money from them, but the land would have looked more clear cut. Our deal is that we could not be out there to monitor them daily.
Best of luck and I know what you mean! Logging is one of the worst industries where people get ripped off imo and from what I have heard in all of my years in land investing. I do like this method with a broker as it does 'theoretically' greatly reduce the risk of getting ripped off. Thanks man!
Interesting information on assessing the different species for logging.
Great information! Appreciate the video! Thanks Kap!
You bet! It's a constant learning curve life is.. :)
Really interesting video 👌
The ash trees are long gone on the family farm in southern Indiana. Lots of big trees, I saw the bark peeling off and thought what a waste. The next year most of them were down, and along with them went my morel mushroom patch. 😕
darn man, sounds like maybe they should have had it select cut!?
I forgot about the family farm, can't be too far from us! Be sure to holler next time you come up if you want to stop in!
I have some black walnut didn't know they were worth anything well i had a logger try to say there not worth nothing i have a lot of chipin saw
DANG! Black walnut is top dollar!!
If you're absolutely selling this land, you are leaving behind lots of money if you don't go in and cut everything that's usable...even down to stuff that's only good for pallets and ties.
It's all a balancing act on time and cash management. Some things are not always worth the time to put in, if a better return can be derived elsewhere in that time frame. We'll take it one step at a time but always keeping an eye on the new big monthly payment!
Who’s going to buy the land after the previous owner cut everything usable off the property I know I wouldn’t. I would buy property that was Managed properly and logged every 10 to 15 years. Not logged 1 time in 100 years
@@TheWildWestMill I asked Kapper what the new owners were going to do with the property and he said they're going to cut all the timber that will make a 4 inch post or larger. Go figure!!
@@clarkwheeler8764 here in southern Ontario there aren’t clear cuts Farms aren’t clear cut for any reason only land that is right on the edge of town for a subdivision but if you own a farm with timber they don’t let you clear cut large areas only if you got 2 acres of timber and you want to square up your field and you gotta pay to plants trees somewhere else on your property or on crown land