I Tried Suboxone and You Won't Believe What Happened!
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2023
- Are you familiar with medication-assisted treatment for opioid addiction? In a recent podcast, TJ shared his experience with Suboxone, a common medication used in such treatment. He revealed that he was allergic to Suboxone because it triggered his cravings and lead him to smoke crack. However, he also acknowledges that it works for some people and helps them disconnect from the street life and the substances associated with it.
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Suboxone saved my life ❤
What dose I’m tryin to stay low@ 3 2 or 3.5 mgs was jw because I think it stops working at higher doses after a while?
It helps me not be on tar 247 but when yo ain’t got it just as bad as H w/d or anything really because it’s 2 drugs mix and arguably strongest part of the poppy crop stock need to switch to kratom to many side effects tho I’ll just take this sh!t in low doses every 2 -3 days or 2 -3 times a day
There’s a science to it 🧬
You saved your life.
Suboxone is a tool to help you. I know because I'm in the same boat. 3 years 8 months clean no relapse. I've been taking Suboxone as prescribed.
Believe me I understand it I really do. Thankfully you're still here. Keep up the good fight.
@@SouthOfSanity79 Thank you 🌝 I was on Suboxone for 7 years, and I have been off it since July 12,2023,and have never felt better 😌 All the best for you ❤
Bro the benzos were giving you stimulant cravings not the Suboxone 🤦. Benzos cause certain people (me included) to feind for stimulants even if you never enjoyed them previously. I notice this "stim craving" effect with xanax especially.
UPDATE: I finally quit Suboxone.
Funny you say that cause I’m great on Suboxone but i definitely feel the cravings of Crystal Meth while on it.
never took a bar till I got off the opiates and got on subs now I find myself needing a xan
Benzos always made me binge on alcohol. When I'm off everything I rarely drink
I'm from Finland so we really don't have crystal meth here and the coke here is mostly shit. You can get crystal meth or good pepsi if you have connects, but most people use just regular speed. A few years ago when I was using the most amount of benzos & speed, that combo makes you have no remorse, dignity or any self control + you have energy to do stuff, because if you take just tens of milligrams of xanax (here it's called xanor) or rivatril/clonazepam (klonopin in US) even if you have a high tolerance, you will eventually pass out, but not on speed. Pretty much every time I've gotten arrested I've been on benzos & speed + usually more stuff and all the problems I'm currently facing have come from those times😅
Facts (benzodiazepines 👿)
That has nothing to do with suboxone. It has to do with where your at mentally....it's about taking accountability.
Or it's about a chemical reaction and something is happening physiologically and maybe not weakness of character. It's like shitting on a cancer patient because they can't gain weight.
That's quite true, indeed.
He’s just repeating BS he heard in AA or rehab
He probably got that part wrong but the other part he was 100% correct. They are so eagerly looking to put addicts on subs or methadone. It’s basically this.. There are individuals that want to help but mostly, addicts are seen as tacky people, causing problems for the world at large. Whether it be overdosing in the streets or stealing from people and stores to get their next fix. MAT is a way of dealing with these issues to reduce the multitude of challenges addicts place on society at large. Of course this is never the narrative of what the medical and political systems use or will ever allude to; it is most certainly a primary motive of treating people who suffer with addiction with a less messy drug to keep them out of the way and whilst also being a way those same systems can profit tremendously in terms of money.
Most people believe we have a health care system but really it’s just as much a keep you sick system. Even a get you sick system. How did the addict become an addict. They most definitely didn’t go into their surroundings and cultivate the necessities to make the drugs themselves.
You want to be clean and sober. The best way is first through understanding what the world and industry around you is. It’s hard to make that distinction when you’re born into the machine that feeds you not only the causes and cures but every iota of information that you ever swallowed
Radical acceptance but don't let others place guilt on you, be brave enough to face your own actions yourself.
MAT has a significantly higher succes rate then just jumping straight into abstinence. The "Gold' standard is 12 steps and thats %100 BS.
The gold standard is drastically changing your personality to be a responsible adult that takes accountability for their own actions. Addicts are the epitome of loser personality . I have changed so I have no sympathy for loser addicts/beggars. The only people below an addict in society are the decreased people. Even criminals in jail that aren’t addicts are more useful than addicts because they have some functional ability
Fun fact:
The original joke is...
I'm allergic to Xanax.
Every time I break out in Felonies and misdemeanors
🤣🤣that's hilarious
In 2022 I lost 42 LB just taking 8 mg of Suboxone / 2 mg of naloxone I was sick like a dog I had to have the mylan brand I was never an addict I was taking zofran everyday I was nauseated I couldn't eat nothing I weighed 174
Wow that sound awful! I really hope you're doing better. Boy do I know that sick as a dog feeling! BTW, I like Myland products also.
SUBLOCADE!!! No withdrawls when you quit ! Get your energy back immediately almost. You feel great all the time no up and down . No depression. At least for me. For my fellow addicts out there. I’m praying for
You
What’s the difference between that and suboxone?
@@Thatdudewiththedogssublocade is a shot you get once a month
@@ThatdudewiththedogsWhat Tess said. Just different methods of delivery. Theres plenty. Under the tongue patches are the most common. There used to be the pills, but those are pretty rare now. There's the shot, which varies in time. Most common is once a month. I hear there's even dermal and subdermal patches too...
I can't afford it 😞
I can't wait to get on this next week. Just started Suboxone and have to wait for the shot but I'm ready to live life.
Saved my life but after ten years feels like it’s killing Mee
I've been on it for 2 years n it saved me 💓
Everyone is different 💞
Same and agreed
Now it's time to taper?
Your still hooked on Opiates. No hate JS
I take Subutex (very, very low dose) for depression and OUD and it saved my life!
Been on it 10 years and I feel like I'm on prison from it.
I take suboxone, aderall and baclofen together as prescribed . But first thing in the morning I have to have it to start moving around. My body has become dependent on it. I hate it but I’m thankful that I am managing my life and not doing street drugs and alcohol.so if it’s not one thing it’s another.
Yuk , u can’t move until u take ur drugs , wow , get sober , no matter what Jesus is king 🙏
Holy hell can I relate to this. I smoked crack on 12MG subs until I lost just about everything. Sobriety is hard but it’s genuinely the only way to stop suffering. Currently tapering down for the 5 time but I have hope.
Hope all is well friend 🙏
I have hope for you as well. Hang in there, you got this!!
Thank you guys ✊ it means a lot!
Suboxone saved my life if anyone out there needs to talk I'm here
I need help. I Just recently O/D 😢 I have no one. My parents passed away...❤️I🙏 and I was an only child.im 32 now.. I Had a total hip replacement .and several knee surgeries.. ,then got addicted to opiates !! I am still in pain EVERDAY !!! I am just starting to learn about Suboxone...I don't know what to do? And/ I Tried to do it alone..
I need to talk.???
And I'm happy for you!!
.peace and love
They stopped giving me opiates AFTER 5 YEARS DAILY /HIGH USE !
-- you probably know- what happened from then on...😢
@@PalmtreesGoodvibes I'm 32 as well
@@PalmtreesGoodvibes hope you're all right I'm here to talk
Subs make you smoke Crack? Umm no.
Lol 50 tines stronger than morphine Suboxone
Alcohol+ Xanax = me smoking crack .... usually i would come out of a blackout with a crack pipe in my hand like "how'd this happen" 🥴 🤕🤦♂️ thank God i don't live like that anymore 🙌
Great job to you my friend !! God bless you !🙏 Stay faithful, and strong !!! You got this !!!!
Never had that issue with suboxone but with methadone 100%. I would never smoke crack or do cocaine unless I was extremely drunk. I started on methadone and within a week I find myself going to buy crack at 9:30 a.m. on a Sunday morning stone cold sober. I explained to the doctor what was happening and he said yes if you have an affinity for cocaine methadone will increase your Cravings dramatically. Of course that was never mentioned prior to getting on.
I did H for about 3 months after my oxycodone addiction, I could never see myself doing crack or H for longer than that. I got help right away . I've been on methadone and clean since 2015, stoped Xanax and weed by early 2018.
But from 2015-2018 I was only taking Xanax and weed . Nothing crazy
@magnoliamike Congratulations, that is awesome, my man!! I guess you have been on methadone now for about 8 years? May I ask your dose and are you tapering or planning on getting off anytime? No judgement here! I think do whatever we need to do to not harm society, or go to prison or die. If that means staying on MAT indefinitely then so be it.
Neither was ruining teeth bones if u can don't b on methadone for long time it totally ruin my teeth now gotta get false teeth
Snorting pain meds ruined my teeth..sad to say...by the time I got on suboxone I had no teeth left
Be careful, most people i know who took or take it have been on it for 10+ years. Because withdrawal from suboxone is loooong and brutal. Getting down to 2mg a day is easy but once you start going lower you start feeling it so most people just end up taking it for years. Take off a couple weeks from your life and prepare your soul for epic battle. 1st 7 days are hell but once you get over that hill its nothing compared to what you just went through. The body and especially the brain are very efficient at repairing themselves even from a decade of abuse, its really quite impressive.
He’s so wrong about the “automatic preferred pathway for recovery” I went to 50 treatment centers and sober livings, and a lot of them do Suboxone taper, and then you’re off of it forever, but not one place did suboxone maintenance after 10 years of completely destroying my life, I finally walked into a clinic to be on maintenance and I’ve been clean for two and a half years I’m surprised a lot more places. Don’t try to do Suboxone they just don’t.
Congratulations 🎉 good for you. I learned it's only my business and my doctors business what my prescriptions are and my sponsorship family and or sponsor or any program isn't ur doctor and you have HIPAA rights to keep ur meds to urself. It no one's business as long as ur getting prescribed.
❤ yourself. Everyone's story is different. Thanks for your post to explain it's a case by case scenario. ❤❤❤
And thanks for opening up and sharing. Made me laugh. Much appreciated 😊
He’s not wrong
At least here in Australia the doctors push ORT hard
In fact most detox centres said I couldn’t do their detox program unless I went on ORT & stayed on it the whole time I was there
I want to be off all drugs I don’t care if they’re legal I want to be healthy & free, I want my bodies natural serotonin, dopamine & endorphins to start working again.
But if it works for you then I’m happy for you
Im illergic had medical reaction to it i tried it to get off methadone but my body rejected it so i still have to take methadone 18 mil very low dose but ruined my teeth herion weed didn't do anything to my teeth but methadone ruins teeth badly
Saved mine too but I'm withdrawals and can't get help for them I didn't taper well I didn't want to stop
Hiw are you now. What would you consider tapering well?
It's the gold standard of treatment because it's the only one that works.
Suboxone saved my life. It may not be for everyone. But if you are struggling with opiate addiction I can’t say this enough, please go and at least try suboxone and some therapy sessions. It will do wonders for you if subs are for you. God bless anybody that’s struggling with addiction right now. You got this, if I can stop taking opiates then so CAN YOU!!!
Suboxone saved my life but after awhile i was abusing the suboxone, taking more then i needed or going days without and then dosing so i could feel it hit harder. I was on subs for longer than i was in active addiction. Sublocade saved me from suboxone
That's fucking crazy how did u win. I'm going thro it right now.
@@diegoholley5593 i got the sublocade shot. Its a pretty new drug, i didnt know it existed for a long time. I got the shot 3 months ago and never looked back. The shot is basically a huge amount of buprenorphine that tapers on its own. I suggest you look into it. Tapering off suboxone was impossible for me.
Exactly I’m not feeling anything from subs anymore idk what to do
My freind gets sublicade pills he told me to try them are they way better then subs that’s what he says
@@tinatinnet8751same here
When I take suboxone I don't want to drink or do anything else
I was in the hospital for a week for benzo / alcohol detox and figured what the hell and mentioned I had been taking kratom for around a decade and he immediately said “yea suboxone” and I’ve been on a script since then around 7 months as I tapered off Librium and only am able to hold onto them for around a few days to a week before taking em all then switch back to kratom for the rest of the month without much problem. I only get the 2mg ones which is a crazy jump from kratom I know but I have heard of people being switched from kratom to 8mg strips and that’s wild af to me. But yea I’d say similar feeling to when I first used dilaudid if you have a low to even mild tolerance but obviously works much safer.
You can ask to be upped. I've been in treatment for 3 years. I take 3 8mg a day
Great perspective sharing, TJ! We all approach health and recovery differently; this honesty is so valuable. Thank you brother - true sharing of ones approach enriches and informs the discussion. ❤
That's what happens to a lot of people. They get on methadone or subs and they start smoking crack
I’m not someone who is open about my addictions but I would be dead from fentanyl if it weren’t for Suboxone.
Man I can understand what this as a thirty year methadone addict who was given no warnings about precipitated withdrawal the whole process of just trying to adjust has wrecked me with me turning to drink, Benzodiazepines and pre gabs just to get some sleep after a month of hell. That said I’ll never go back on methadone having finally come out of the other side. The key is to change everything up though with Buprenorphine as imo just surviving the day isn’t enough
Methadone is what ramped up the crack and benzo craving for me
MAT saved my life❤
What's MAT?
@@Maxine1630medicated assisted treatment
a drug is a drug, no matter if it comes from the street or the doctor down the street.
Big difference between a drug and a narcotic
Bro. Addicts are going to use regardless. It’s called “harm reduction” for a reason. They’re still addicts but clean from street drugs
How soon can u go back to subs after xr morph? Was a shortage and used my old morphs to get by. I'm so scared of precipitated but it's INTOLERABLE in the am (also in interdose wd from benzos from being shot in the face) advice ASAP PLEASE 🙏
It was not the Suboxone
IT WAS THE BEZO's Good Sir
Suboxone gives me really bad back pain. It is a side effect… been trying to see if anyone else has had that problem
Soboxon and meth was my poison. I kicked the meth 5 years ago but still on Soboxon. You've gotta be in a good place for it to work
From what I’ve seen it’s just because the patients are addicts and want to get high it has very little to do with the doctors. When I was in rehab all anyone would talk about is how they can’t wait to get a subutex shot and nod off for days which was literally happening
Thats bull crap
False accusations
You are very obviously so uneducated about suboxone and have clearly have never had experience with it😂☠️
Nobody that used hard opiates would nod off the shot. Once you’ve done heroin or fent you won’t feel suboxone.
@@levintaydebrownson4968I feel my sub dose when I take it in the morning. Nothing crazy and it definitely doesn’t get close to making you nod. Just a slight glow and a good mood. It’s not every day either.
It’s the Benzos probably . I do stupid stuff on too much benzos
I mean people die every minute from fet. Just cus u smoke hard on subs doesn't mean it's anything to do w the substance. It's all about the mindset
Methadone and God saved my life. My entire world is different now. I'm almost tapered off, and I got my entire life back. MAT was truly the only way for me.
Anybody watching this knows he's not that far into recovery yet.
My brother loved smoking crack wit methadone
Suboxone works for me
Methadone, Xanax, and weed was a crazy mix too lol
Tats v call reaction.,... Just instantly get worse craving..
But they do give all addicts the same medication
It may have to do with your surroundings and support system
If your getting high on Subs, you should have never been on Subs, doctors will give people taking to much Tylenol 3s Subs and they get high as fuck, I was in H and used Subs to get stay of of it and even the first time I took 16mg I didn’t feel “High” just felt okay. If you get high on Subs it’s because your tolerance is to low to need Subs.. crazy over prescribed.
No I dont believe it's for everybody. If ur a balls to the wall kinda addicted I would say no it's not for you. Atleast not for them as long term maybe short term would be okay. Like a week or 2.
If your not in a life threatening situation, meaning you havnt had several overdoses recently then I’d stay away from subs. But if your skirting by death on the regular I’d say subs will save your life.
Be free from addiction by the blood of Christ.
ahhh suboxone the best and worst thing that ever happened to me😁
Really dude. Why even post this
Sounds like you have a everything habbit not a herion habbit
It would prevent it for you to if you had better self control.
Suboxone ruined my life lol suboxone gets you high asf
Dude isn't even trying but acting like he is
Your lucky you could get Benzos my friend. Wds are hell
Lots of MONAYYY in subs...that's why! Also it's insanely addictive. Like the most addictive substance I know of.
I wish I could get a straight answer I'm trying to OD and all I have is subs. so far 7 subs 8bover 2 hasnt worked. I'm trying to OD
You ok bro?
I'm thinking about it myself that's how I found your post.hope your still alive
@@johnygonagetu7096 ya I'm still here unfortunately... Turns out all I did was short myself a bunch of subs.... Didnt work. And I ran out early witch totally sucked.... I'm soooooo goddamn tired of all of this... I just wanna be shed of all this crap....anyway happy memorial day.
@@johnygonagetu7096 this too shall pass bro 🙏 don’t do it
This too shall pass but no you can’t OD on it.
Subutex & Serax saved my life