People were saying how weak he was fighting monsters and I was like, "Just wait for a PvP video, if he is weak in one area, he is probably super strong in another."
***** actually DiE is super OP in PvP.... you must've forgotten the memo, but his passives as DiE is where he truly shines. He has a passive that reduces the effect of debuffs by half, like fear suppresion, panic, stun and other debuff. He also has passives that lets him gain DP/MP and skills that also do the aforementioned. Another passive he has allows him to raise his attack speed and gives him a chance to reduces all of his skills cooldown, with max level and the passive procs he can reduce 51% of his skills CD. Saying that DiE is still weak in PvP after looking at his passives makes u look inexperienced. Also, PvP is about skills and not the equips. U can be OP in equips but if u cant hit ur opponent its just as useless. P. S. Haven't u ever thought about how the acronym of Diabolical Esper spells out "DiE".
The acronym of Diabolical Esper is DE. Oh cool, there's a DE server. Because someone is going to ask for help job changing into a German. Please. His passive that lets him gain DP/MP from skills recovers about 3.5% of the Mana/DP used, at level 56. So there are maybe like 3~4 more levels to the skill, increasing it by .5% each level. Ooh yeahhh! Soo great!! I can murder everyone with an extra 15 MP from a 300 mp skill! and to top it off, it's not even a 100% chance! You're getting jumbled up here. The 51% chance is to gain the 3.5% mp, but at level 56, it's 36% chance. At level 60, assuming you don't chose ESP, you get the 6% recovery of DP/MP skills. which is totally OP, gaining 18 mp from a 300 mp skill. E.S.P is definitely nice. Not going to deny that. The most dangerous part about DE is particle accelerator, and force nova. period. And there are only like, three major debuffs he reduces. Suppression, Stun, and Fear. let's be honest. if you were playing IP, and you used chaos, what makes you think they'd stay and fight you if they knew they were taking a 60% extra crit chance? I don't know about you, but i'd high tail my ass out of there. I am not aware of the cooldown passive though, enlighten me.
Reverse Stigma is indeed overpower... But I think the most broken thing is how he can generate both resource so efficiently, and that allows him to spam skill non stop.
I have a feeling KOG will do something about Reverse Stigma, at least on the cost or the warp's hitstun. Complaints errr, suggestions on this will be bombarding them lol
I think Diabolic Esper's difficulty set by KoG is reasonable and I will explain myself. This might receive a lot of hate, but it's my opinion. In general people respond to the difficulty for Diabolic Esper should be easy and I can understand why, but you need to ask yourself do you have a "Add" background like either if you had played LP or MM? The fighting style might be different but in general Add's base difficulty is medium, you can't really compare the base to the second job advancement. LP remains medium due to that LP use mostly Nasod armor combo and blinks to your opponent without doing much catching. MM in general have extreme long range due to some of its skill (eg. Phantom Seekers and Nasod drone skills) which makes him hard in a way if you don't use base Add combo and only use MM combo's which have no catching ability that which makes hard to use for BEGINNERS :D (If you don't agree I would love to hear your opinion as well). Finally comes down to Diabolic Esper. I had done some research and read all the different ideas and opinions about DiE or Add in general which is not a bad thing that some people's opinion. Let's jump straight to the most hot topic "Reverse Stigma" aka RS in short. This skill only cost 100 Mp or 100 Dp and with the cd 5 seconds, and all of our normal reaction will be like " **** it's so OP!!" or w/e, and that is my first reaction to skill as well no surprises here and it is specially strong in PvP which I can't deny it, since it is really strong to a point some people might stuck in another combo after they think they had just escaped one. Like reggiedbest said that KoG might nerf the skill or they might not depends on the situation. To be honest guys :D DiE only came out like 19 days ago, you can't really expect tons changes KoG is going to provide and DiE changes is not the priority right now since it is still being observed by the people. Let's put that aside. There is some weaknesses that Add possess and I would put that into consideration as well. For example, from all Hae Gwon's combo for DiE you can tell that his combo is partially limited to some degree, and its pretty repetitive from all the matches and that apply to other character as well like VC, that his combo are mostly horizontal movement and lack of vertical combo's and that is why he has the passive of Air Slicer to increase the possibilities for VC in the air. This is all my opinions about DiE, I also would want to hear others opinions as well. THANKS HAE GWON FOR THE AWESOME VIDEO :D
I know this is about to sound blasphemous but I actually think out of the new 3 classes he is the most overpowered. I say that because of his armor honestly. He gains DP as he uses mana vice versa. Not only that but hes got a move that doesn't take that much Dp allowing him to teleport people to the spot. If you combine his Time Tracer PVE skills, with the Diabolic PVP skills, and his seal of time, he, if played in the right way is simply the most balanced character in the game. Not to mention he does a TON of damage, but then thats add in general.
Ruthless Indeed I love all of adds Classes but this is my favorite Not As Dangerous as LP or MM But still ruthless his speed seems increase for the loss of damage output
This is a very cool pvp video. This video made me make a add, but I have a problem, I can't decide which class to go for. My options are between DE and LP, they are both good classes, but which one is better than the other? Can I get some help pls? ;-;
That... Reverse Stigma was it called? I swear... when DE gets released in NA, it'll be so hard to PvP... less and less people are PvPing nowadays too (sighs)
***** Lol Although I didn't understand half the things you said, I get the idea. When I say OP, I mean as in even though Je only uses those basic skills to PvP, he still is dominated his opponents. And (I hate to admit it but...) this is sorta like WS and NF XD As well as the ZZ>ZZ loop
how did you use maximum strike and particle accelerator one after another? and I believe your mp was below 300 when you use particle accelerator, is it another DiE passive?
Very skilled player, to be able to win with a hard character like that. According to Elwiki he should be as hard to play as Blade Master and Master Mind.
Can anyone please explain to me why Diabolic Esper needed reverse stigma or why KOG decided it was a good idea to make a move like that in the first place? I was slightly ok with adds other homing abilities but damn is there a way even a way to dodge this one besides evasion?
Remove stun mid combo for dp mode, lower base damage and hitstun, and remove homing on most skills (or decrease range?). That's really all they need to do but do they do it? No, they just make another character that can beat add so people stop complaining
I love it. The ultimate troll to end all trolls. Literally have to kill him before he kills you cause there's no running. You have to be aggressive as hell and make sure that every hit is on point and timed well. Oh yes oh yes oh yes. In NA oh is he gonna be the class that I'll love to spar against. "Also LP and MM are cheap as hell this one takes some real skill to play go add!" #voteKOGforbestbalanceevar
I like DE he's one of my favorites but LP is op in my opinion with the current version of the game all i have yo do its nasod armor combo canclr out then recombo then conquer and game over
its still maintenance in our server now but after it will be having season 3 arena and character rebalance. i think all ranks will be reset as what i've heard, rip my rank sss 6 chars. (TAT) ^hoping for no rank reset though :( thankfully, add still isn't released here and not planning on creating one..maybe. either way, must get all my chars back up there before he arrives!
For those of you who say Add is unbeatable or god, I've beaten level 70 Adds (LP and AT) with a level 59 IP, they are actually really weak, you can take em out in one combo, I killed a level 70 AT in one combo with my level 57 DC, it's just you don't know how to counter Add's attacks because he's a new character and everybody is too busy loving him, or raging over him. I use him myself with a level 40 AT beating level 70 LPs because I know how they try to catch and simply counter it.
I don't get why people say he's not good a solo PvE I'm on NA so I don't know but his attacks are ap strong and he has fast base attack speed he have low health and defense but look at LP can't be touched in PVP or PvE
In these videos he win only post the clips where he actually wins, no one would show you when they lose, so don't think diabolic esper will wreck everything. I've played every Add and have reached S rank with all of them, the strongest one at catching, in my opinion is definitely lunatic psyker, in terms of flexibility and fun-wise, i would say diabolic esper and mastermind is for PvE solo.
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People were saying how weak he was fighting monsters and I was like, "Just wait for a PvP video, if he is weak in one area, he is probably super strong in another."
He's not the greatest in pvp either. Je Hae Gwon has a +8 weapon with grend 4/4 and accessory and 70% crit, remember?
***** actually DiE is super OP in PvP.... you must've forgotten the memo, but his passives as DiE is where he truly shines. He has a passive that reduces the effect of debuffs by half, like fear suppresion, panic, stun and other debuff. He also has passives that lets him gain DP/MP and skills that also do the aforementioned. Another passive he has allows him to raise his attack speed and gives him a chance to reduces all of his skills cooldown, with max level and the passive procs he can reduce 51% of his skills CD.
Saying that DiE is still weak in PvP after looking at his passives makes u look inexperienced.
Also, PvP is about skills and not the equips. U can be OP in equips but if u cant hit ur opponent its just as useless.
P. S. Haven't u ever thought about how the acronym of Diabolical Esper spells out "DiE".
The acronym of Diabolical Esper is DE.
Oh cool, there's a DE server. Because someone is going to ask for help job changing into a German. Please.
His passive that lets him gain DP/MP from skills recovers about 3.5% of the Mana/DP used, at level 56. So there are maybe like 3~4 more levels to the skill, increasing it by .5% each level. Ooh yeahhh! Soo great!! I can murder everyone with an extra 15 MP from a 300 mp skill! and to top it off, it's not even a 100% chance! You're getting jumbled up here. The 51% chance is to gain the 3.5% mp, but at level 56, it's 36% chance.
At level 60, assuming you don't chose ESP, you get the 6% recovery of DP/MP skills. which is totally OP, gaining 18 mp from a 300 mp skill.
E.S.P is definitely nice. Not going to deny that.
The most dangerous part about DE is particle accelerator, and force nova. period.
And there are only like, three major debuffs he reduces.
Suppression, Stun, and Fear. let's be honest. if you were playing IP, and you used chaos, what makes you think they'd stay and fight you if they knew they were taking a 60% extra crit chance? I don't know about you, but i'd high tail my ass out of there.
I am not aware of the cooldown passive though, enlighten me.
Yeah just like i tought
why are you talking about being lvl 56? Im just saying that his passives makes him deadly in PvP, I'm not saying that he's broken OP.
The "Teleporting from different time" intro for DE is amazing. Still don't get why he says, "It is...the dawn of HELL!" when he does though.
If you check DE's history on Elwiki maybe you can undestand
He vows to destroy the broken world
Fenrir Strike
Yes I know why he teleports, I'm a lore person XD;;, But I don't understand why he says" It is..The dawn of hell!"
Well, the broken world in his opinion.
I think he means he is going to destroy that dimensions earth too.
Reverse Stigma is indeed overpower...
But I think the most broken thing is how he can generate both resource so efficiently, and that allows him to spam skill non stop.
DE's laugh at the beginning of every match is so sexy oh my god.
no matter how hard i practice in PvP i cant reach the level of this guy, he is just a master of PvP >.
HAHAHA 8:38 THAT NOPE BRIDGE THOUGH XD
You can use your dp to skill and reload mp. Amazing. Je it's a pleasure to watch your videos. Greetings from italy :D
Reverse Stigma is just a slap in the face to all runners in pvp.
And here I thought they couldn't make a more OP class after LP...
Reverse Stigma.
Add as Elsword's Scorpion confirmed.
This guy has some op moves like that move where it teleports the opponent to the place marked.
I usually don't say anything is overpowered but....
Reverse Stigma is fucking overpowered.
I have a feeling KOG will do something about Reverse Stigma, at least on the cost or the warp's hitstun. Complaints errr, suggestions on this will be bombarding them lol
HI Je! Have you made a video with Your CA against Type H and and dungeon? I really wanted to see it.
I think Diabolic Esper's difficulty set by KoG is reasonable and I will explain myself. This might receive a lot of hate, but it's my opinion.
In general people respond to the difficulty for Diabolic Esper should be easy and I can understand why, but you need to ask yourself do you have a "Add" background like either if you had played LP or MM? The fighting style might be different but in general Add's base difficulty is medium, you can't really compare the base to the second job advancement.
LP remains medium due to that LP use mostly Nasod armor combo and blinks to your opponent without doing much catching.
MM in general have extreme long range due to some of its skill (eg. Phantom Seekers and Nasod drone skills) which makes him hard in a way if you don't use base Add combo and only use MM combo's which have no catching ability that which makes hard to use for BEGINNERS :D (If you don't agree I would love to hear your opinion as well).
Finally comes down to Diabolic Esper. I had done some research and read all the different ideas and opinions about DiE or Add in general which is not a bad thing that some people's opinion. Let's jump straight to the most hot topic "Reverse Stigma" aka RS in short. This skill only cost 100 Mp or 100 Dp and with the cd 5 seconds, and all of our normal reaction will be like " **** it's so OP!!" or w/e, and that is my first reaction to skill as well no surprises here and it is specially strong in PvP which I can't deny it, since it is really strong to a point some people might stuck in another combo after they think they had just escaped one. Like reggiedbest said that KoG might nerf the skill or they might not depends on the situation. To be honest guys :D DiE only came out like 19 days ago, you can't really expect tons changes KoG is going to provide and DiE changes is not the priority right now since it is still being observed by the people.
Let's put that aside. There is some weaknesses that Add possess and I would put that into consideration as well. For example, from all Hae Gwon's combo for DiE you can tell that his combo is partially limited to some degree, and its pretty repetitive from all the matches and that apply to other character as well like VC, that his combo are mostly horizontal movement and lack of vertical combo's and that is why he has the passive of Air Slicer to increase the possibilities for VC in the air.
This is all my opinions about DiE, I also would want to hear others opinions as well.
THANKS HAE GWON FOR THE AWESOME VIDEO :D
@Je Hae Gwon What do you think about the balance of Add in general and the latest iteration of Add: DE? Are his catches too strong?
hey Je :), why you didnt use Adddmg/Reddmg? is Crit better in PvP now? (sorry for my bad english :P)
That S CrA is playing like todays NA or EU SSS
I know this is about to sound blasphemous but I actually think out of the new 3 classes he is the most overpowered. I say that because of his armor honestly. He gains DP as he uses mana vice versa. Not only that but hes got a move that doesn't take that much Dp allowing him to teleport people to the spot. If you combine his Time Tracer PVE skills, with the Diabolic PVP skills, and his seal of time, he, if played in the right way is simply the most balanced character in the game. Not to mention he does a TON of damage, but then thats add in general.
8:38 NOPE Bridge strikes again!
Fix that thing already QQ
Awesome! I wonder how much your critical are...
REWIND OP
CA vs DE seems like a power combo i like
Ruthless Indeed I love all of adds Classes but this is my favorite Not As Dangerous as LP or MM But still ruthless his speed seems increase for the loss of damage output
Rune slayers and blade masters are the only balance classes left in Elsword.
Although DE is cool and all but still he is a really scumbag class.
LK is pretty cheap, especially with Mortal Blow, Windmill, and Impact Smash. But LK isn't as bad as the other classes.
RS and BM arnt really balanced e.e
lmao in no way is LK more OP than RS.
they have better catches, their combos do faster damage, and they're just way easier than LK overall.
Makkhai Cronus No one talks about IS ;.;
love to see lightning shower stun time being at a worthles 1second.
Reverse stigma=Delayed fire 2.0 OP
Esper is what you call the power users in the to aru majutsu no index from the science side. So yep he's like accelerator
I notice that you get around 10mp for each hit you do. Is that an effect/buff you have or am I just wrong?
Je what stats and attributes would you suggest for season 3 pvp ?
This is a very cool pvp video. This video made me make a add, but I have a problem, I can't decide which class to go for. My options are between DE and LP, they are both good classes, but which one is better than the other? Can I get some help pls? ;-;
People say he is the God of PVP. And honestly if you know how to use him your a op.
PLZ COME BACK TO ELSWORD I MISS UR VIDEOS!!
I have a feeling you have main others characters a lot.. haven't you Je Hae Gwon -.-?
should i go for tons of crit, or keep the dp gain i had when there were less dp gaining skills?
are the combos that you used are complicated or easy to do?
In pve solo, which is better? Lunatic psyker or Diabolic Esper?
Derp, it's official... DE is the most insane class out of all of Add's classes. And the scariest. Did i mention also the most OP if played properly?
That... Reverse Stigma was it called? I swear... when DE gets released in NA, it'll be so hard to PvP... less and less people are PvPing nowadays too (sighs)
***** Lol Although I didn't understand half the things you said, I get the idea. When I say OP, I mean as in even though Je only uses those basic skills to PvP, he still is dominated his opponents. And (I hate to admit it but...) this is sorta like WS and NF XD As well as the ZZ>ZZ loop
***** Well nothing to do about it right? Just gotta find an opening and attempt to do as much combos as possible
***** I say that but I still lose to every Add I meet xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
how did you use maximum strike and particle accelerator one after another? and I believe your mp was below 300 when you use particle accelerator, is it another DiE passive?
***** ahhh okay, thanks
If Kog knew what balancing was, it wouldn't take years to fix abusive things in Grand Chase
I like PVP battle cause you used my favorite skills and that is Mind Break xD
GG Broh
wtf?? this is beyond OP... i like it :D
Very skilled player, to be able to win with a hard character like that. According to Elwiki he should be as hard to play as Blade Master and Master Mind.
So whats the best pvp class for add in your opinion?
Ppl complain about Add so much, but he really is built for PvP. Pretty useless in dungeons except for Mastermind, who I have a personal beef with.
can't wat for this job change !
love pshyker and all but he looks kicka ss
heheh hello, excellent video I really like this class, this happened .. what is the ost of the first pvp ??
8:39 The nope bridge strikes again!
Je, may you please make more IS (Infinity sword) videos....I only found one on ur channel and can you make the videos mainly on PvP
so... if i remove my Add.dmg for Critical...would that be good? (Elsword NA/LA)
*That Asura just gor PRANKED!*
I thought I heard Desire Drive at around 1:40. And until 5:50,... I don't believe it!
which you think best DE LP or MM ??
When u were fighting that CA and she came out wit that combo I was like O.O DAYUMMMMM I rewinded it like 5 times lol
What is the first song? .w. (PD: sorry for my english xD)
My thoughts when I see this class: Balance isn´t broken enough, right?
소감쓰기 시작!
그래비티 버스터에 대전보정은 그냥 없다고 봐도 되겠네요. 8강무기에 6만뎀이라니, 뭐야. 옛 퀀커러 보는 느낌....
리버스 스티그마는... 강제소환이란거 자체가 마음에 안들이요. 100MP로 두번 선타잡기! 특히 8:28... 차라리 소환할때 경직이 없다면 그나마 나았겠는데.
20초안에 파액 두번이랑 맥시멈이라니... 뭐, 마나가 700있는거랑 마찬가지...
그버는 헤븐스 피스트 애드 버전! -근데 2필짜리가 뎀이 두세배-
13:00엔 정말 거리계산을 잘하셨네요 ^^
디에는 장거리 애드!
15:18 - 15:22 우하하하하하하하하 푸하하하하하하하핳하하핳ㄱ다ㅣㅁ희ㅏㅡ민ㅇㅍ
...신난다
영상 감사합니다~~
Can you do a 7-4 title run on DE? Without a miho?
just for reference.
Can anyone please explain to me why Diabolic Esper needed reverse stigma or why KOG decided it was a good idea to make a move like that in the first place? I was slightly ok with adds other homing abilities but damn is there a way even a way to dodge this one besides evasion?
OMG OMG OMG!! I can't wait till he's released over here in the U.S. i'll be spamming the crap outta him on other people :D
but that dodge though! 10:58
Where can i get el tree bottom and bridge music?
can i see how much DP gain you have and DP reduction .?
What was the song used at 9:00
what tohou song in wintery velder?
2 and half months required for NA salt rain.
what are the skills ur using?
Remove stun mid combo for dp mode, lower base damage and hitstun, and remove homing on most skills (or decrease range?). That's really all they need to do but do they do it? No, they just make another character that can beat add so people stop complaining
Can you do a Raid Boss video with Diabolic Esper?
포스노바는 왜않쓰시는거에요?????? 버그인지 아무것도없는데 그냥 마나회수와디피회수가 다되더라고요
good video Je Hae Gwon
I love it. The ultimate troll to end all trolls. Literally have to kill him before he kills you cause there's no running. You have to be aggressive as hell and make sure that every hit is on point and timed well. Oh yes oh yes oh yes. In NA oh is he gonna be the class that I'll love to spar against. "Also LP and MM are cheap as hell this one takes some real skill to play go add!"
#voteKOGforbestbalanceevar
that Asura in 9:53-11:27 tho.. almost killed him if it werent for the buff
I just love how no one uses the Nasod combos for DiE
Let's gooooo!!!
How does the ara have a third and how are u adds 3rd class WDF
Omg add is getting more op by the minute... We need like some sorta way or character to counter add or need him just a little
i just hope the next char is not as op as add
what is your equipment
Themes song??? Pliz
+LinkHell they are touhou soundtracks
I like DE he's one of my favorites but LP is op in my opinion with the current version of the game all i have yo do its nasod armor combo canclr out then recombo then conquer and game over
its still maintenance in our server now but after it will be having season 3 arena and character rebalance. i think all ranks will be reset as what i've heard, rip my rank sss 6 chars. (TAT)
^hoping for no rank reset though :(
thankfully, add still isn't released here and not planning on creating one..maybe. either way, must get all my chars back up there before he arrives!
Reverse Stigma make me think about Delay Fire of Night Watcher xD He's IMMORTAL '-'
What's your keyboard's brand and type ?
we have the same hands bro your fast hands and I m fast hands too....
For those of you who say Add is unbeatable or god, I've beaten level 70 Adds (LP and AT) with a level 59 IP, they are actually really weak, you can take em out in one combo, I killed a level 70 AT in one combo with my level 57 DC, it's just you don't know how to counter Add's attacks because he's a new character and everybody is too busy loving him, or raging over him. I use him myself with a level 40 AT beating level 70 LPs because I know how they try to catch and simply counter it.
You sir are added.
Rєвєccα Rєѕιɗєηт ƐνιƖ Sυяνινσя Ƈнαмвєяѕ Wat.
Evan Chapman Adding you on G+ and Elsword.
Rєвєccα Rєѕιɗєηт ƐνιƖ Sυяνινσя Ƈнαмвєяѕ Oh I main DC now, add ShootingSeik
Evan Chapman Okay. I shall.
you should make a list of combos that you use in pvp in your website that would be really helpful
Why u dont show fight when u losd
JW can you show use what to max out and so on?
오버리미트 덕분에 DP로 맥시멈 스트라이크 쓰고 파티클 날리는 방법이 있다니 나중에 써봐야 겠네요
Can reverse stigma teleport a leaping elesis?
Is DE better than LP?
I don't get why people say he's not good a solo PvE I'm on NA so I don't know but his attacks are ap strong and he has fast base attack speed he have low health and defense but look at LP can't be touched in PVP or PvE
Your damage is pretty high for a +8 with no add dmg.
Thought you might have the 5 piece effect of the dragonic origin but you don't.
Song list plz?
You think DE is more easy to play than the LP?
He's... as quick as Blade Master? O.O
Main Reason i when back to Diabolic Esper
Song's PvP?
In these videos he win only post the clips where he actually wins, no one would show you when they lose, so don't think diabolic esper will wreck everything. I've played every Add and have reached S rank with all of them, the strongest one at catching, in my opinion is definitely lunatic psyker, in terms of flexibility and fun-wise, i would say diabolic esper and mastermind is for PvE solo.
any tips on how to use Revers stigma in dungeons ?
check my homepage~
Darz Zero Reverse Stigma in PvE is mainly for trolling ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)u transfer the boss to another location to troll ur teammates
+I Conquer You But you can't CAST it on the BOSS.. D:
Has anyone tried? Try to use it on the boss before he has the super armor! Try the small one first like Ran :3
You can't CAST REVERSE on all BOSS'S