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I'm planning a whole house backup generator which includes running my 3 ton Air Conditioner. The problem WAS my AC was blowing my budget because it would require an 8000 watt minimum generator to handle the initial startup of the unit. I found this soft starter and installed it on my AC (took about 10min.) and now I can run my entire house on a 3500 watt generator. Saved me $$
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i continuously support you for your perfection in the automation field i suggest for you to give as a video on for Modbus tcp ip is connected between a step7 and numerical relay i followed most of your video in industrial communication but you did not mention this point good luck thank you in advance
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I dont think people understand the amount of current these large electric motors use. I saw an accident where the motor was physically isolated while fitters aligned the shaft. The apprentice was given the job of stripping and installing wires to the first junction box (safely isolated under permit). While aligning the shaft it is necessary to very slowly rotate the shaft 90 and then 180 degrees. Just a very slow quarter turn on the shaft was enough to generate quite shock and injure the apprentice. Heads did roll because anyone with a high voltage license should have known this. Hard instead of soft start at the same time as an alignment problem nearly bought down a five story structure with me on it and does do a lot of damage to a lot more than just the motor and system it is powering.
Mick This is a great comment and reference from experience. Once never had or seen this happen but you never quite ever know until it happens. As well I’ve been around 4160 Motors being aligned so never quite know until something unexpected happens.
For conveyors, soft starters are recommended, especially if the conveyor needs to be started under load (with boxes, parts, or other pieces on the conveyor). Belt slippage with sudden starts with a DOL starter can cause the belts to wear faster, especially for larger systems.
Great question, but difficult to answer. Life of a motor depends on a host of factors, but using a properly sized, installed, and configured soft starter should extend the life of your motor by up to 25%. The normal life of a motor in years has too many variables to make a quantitative assessment of increased life in years. That all depends on the load, torque requirement at startup, motor design, and how the motor is run (frequent start/stop?, etc.).
Every manufacturer's soft starter is a little different, but most require that you set the line voltage, full load amps, current limit, and torque boost. Beyond that, acceleration, deceleration time, and other parameters specific to that manufacturer's drive are set via a front panel interface or serial programming interface. While VFD's may have 100+ configuration parameters, soft starters usually require less than 10.
Yes. PM motors should use a soft-start or VFD for starting and control to avoid large current inrushes that may lead to motor or component failure. It is always best to check with the manufacturer of the drive you wish to use to see if there are any recommendations for use of their devices with PM motors. Some manufacturers, such as Yaskawa, have specific models or features that are provided specifically for use with PM motors.
The love and appreciation for the team that makes and delivers these videos can be difficult to really convey because it’s highly regarded, so as well is the person narrating the videos. I worked for years as a Tech in the Utility Plant Environment around many equipment with Soft-starters as well VFD’s and never quite understanding properly quite how they worked in a properly explained way like explained by RealPars. I feel so much appreciation from the care taken to make these videos in explanation in demystifying industrial automation understanding. I’m so much smarter because I’m here!
Technology is fascinating. I am just a young adult who is interested in science and technology, and was hoping that there was a device that can reduce flickering of the lights when the air conditioning starts (current inrush). Apparently, someone invented it: the soft starter, and RealPars explained it so well (visual learner here). 10/10 good video. :) *Would be nice if air conditioners, dehumidifiers and fridges could gently start up. Sadly, domestic air conditioners typically don't have enough inertia to necessitate a soft start system, which can cost a lot of money. Also, the flicker of the lights occur for just 1/10th of a second. Thankfully, most my bulbs are LED, so only one or two incandescents flicker. Also, variable stage air-conditioning does exist, and they use similar motor ramp-ups to alternating current soft starts to reduce initial energy consumption.
I build a simple soft starter circuit for use on some of my power tools. The big problem is that I must manually through a switch on the starter itself while the tool's switch is closed. Works great, but a hassle and dangerous. I wish someone came out with a small size retrofit addon kit for saws and other high surge current motors that don't NEED to have balls out instant starting. Be great for construction worksites running off a generator.
Makes me wonder if soft starters could be added before the electric socket, so whatever you plug into the circuit plug gets the soft start (one or more designated outlets for high current equipment)
@@troy3456789 Check out Raymond Innovations. They have a fully self contained soft start box you can plug into any machine that uses a brush type motor. I purchased the Model GS-10 a couple years ago and it works great! I use it for my Skil saw, chop saws, vacuum cleaners too. Does not work so well for motors that use a starting capacitor though. Not cheap @ 150.00.
I've used youtube since 2005, I've subscribed to hundreds of channels... but I only clicked the bell button on this one because the animation is great, the voice is great, the way it teaches is great, and most of all, it talks about devices that are actually relevant to the industry, including high-tech modern devices. Can't say the same about my university... learning about analogue meters. Jesus christ, what is this, 1950? Imagine having an interview and you get to teach the interviewer about the most modern up-to-date tech... that's a big deal. Managers don't want to employ guys that they have to teach... but it's great if the manager has someone who can teach HIM.
This is more "why you should use a "softstart" rather than how a soft start actually works. Need more info on voltage out to motor over ramp time. How much voltage is applied? what is the starting voltage? how much does the voltage increase per ramp time set point? Does the voltage ramp up or is it gated?
I've been doing industrial maintenance and motor control for over 30 years, and lately, a soft starter might be a couple dollars cheaper, but inverters can do everything they do, and a whole lot more with a helluva lot more versatility. Even the most plain Jane inverter can do everything a soft starter does, is practically the same price, and is hella easier to find and quicker to get.
Just installed one on my Central A/C's outside condenser to reduce inrush amps. Later I will get a whole house generator, this was the reason I installed it. My inrush amps went from 120A to 40A. It learned how much it needed to start and reduced over a few starts. 120A, 80A, 60A, 40A Something like that.
inrush... is not "voltage" BUT CURRENT!! From 5 to 7 times the run current The bigger the motor the more destructive is its INRUSH CURRENT at start up time. VFD Soft-starters ramp up the PHASE FREQUENCY there by limiting the current required NOT the voltage. 👍🏻
Yes, the intent is to reduce the inrush current. But the control is via voltage. The triacs in the soft starter are triggered at a specified voltage of the incoming waveform to limit the voltage seen by the motor and thereby reduce the current consumed by the motor.
@@joeanne6258 No. We're not talking about a transformer where you're converting voltage and amperage while keeping wattage constant. We're talking about inrush current which is effectively determined by Ohm's law I=V/R. Since we can't do anything about the resistance, we decrease the available voltage via the triac.
Can you do an advanced video where you explain the function in more details with the correct formulars ? And you didn't mention another big problem when starting big (medium voltage) motors direct on line: The huge voltage drop which occurs due to the high starting current of 6-7 times nominal current. This is often not accepted by the power supplier company and therefore you have to reduce starting current with, for example, a stoft starter.
As the terminal box is only at the fixed side then why you shown the input lines connected from different place for DOL and Soft starter as compared to star- delta..?
You are correct. Motors do have a terminal box on the motor to which all motor leads from the starter are connected. Showing different connections for DOL and Star-Delta in the video was for comparison and illustrative purposes only. The motor leads are connected to the same physical location on the drive in either configuration.
Would we push so many of electrons to do the jobs that earth could do without even use of force? For example instead of using large motor to run the conveyor, we could use sensitive hydraulic balancing to tilt the conveyor and let the load and gravity play its way to destination or use gravity to fill the tank instead of pumping ?... The same concept for all one way road construction with 1 degree downward slope and reduce cost on transportation fuel or force on city road and streets design
I have a 10 Hp electric motor that uses 47 RLA's the torque I'm trying to overcome is substantial. Think a soft start would help more than say a hard start kit?
Yes, a soft starter would limit the amp draw when the motor is first started. With a high starting torque requirement, the starting amps would be significant. A soft starter would provide a smoother start, but it will take a little longer to come up to speed. However, the possibility of popping a fuse at start is greatly reduced.
INDHRA KIRANU N A it's like a dimmer on a light except changes the frequency going to the motor so it starts the motor slow and gradually increases the speed of the motor till full speed however vfds can do more than just ramp up the speed of the Motor they can control the speed of the motor as well as the rotation of the motor
Now I understood why my reactor agitator (current working place) start slowly then after 5sec it rotates fast. Thanks for uploading. Explained very well.
Nice explanation of a soft starter. Can they also be used to power up step-up transformers? Where I live, i have 230V 3-Phase. My work shop main line is 16A 3-phase, 230V. Most of my machines run on 400V 3-phase, so i have a small transformer that is rated at 16A inlet and 10A outlet. Almost every time I switch on the thransformer circuit (through a contactor) the 16A circuit braker trips. This is due to high inrush current i believe. Some times i have to try 3-4 times or more before i can switch on the ciruit without tripping the breakers. Note, the circuit is unloaded when switched on. I never have problems when putting load on the circuit, such as motors etc. Is this an application for a soft starter? Thanks.
The current on the secondary side of a step-up transformer will be less than that on the primary, since power (V x A) is conserved (minus a little efficiency loss). However, since the secondary (as well as the primary) are inductive loads, they behave somewhat like a motor would, with the possibility of a larger inrush current. I would use properly-sized time-delay fuses on the primary feed instead of the breakers you are currently using. This will likely fix your issue. You could try a soft-starter, but that will be expensive by comparison, and may not fix your issue.
There are a few new models in the market that do this, they are integrated in the AC unit. I think they call it inverter technology or dual compressor AC. We have a lot of them here in MExico but they are more costly than regular ones
Nice video... It's educating. However I have a question; which capacity of Softstarter would be suitable for a particular Motor. Example, I have a 55kw electric motor, how many kw or amperage Softstarter would be suitable for that application
The best way to determine the proper Softstarter is to reference the literature of the manufacturer of your preferred vendor. 55kW (75hp @ 460VAC) requires a starter with a 110A capacity @ 460VAC. For example, see: new.siemens.com/global/en/products/automation/industrial-controls/sirius/sirius-hybrid/3rw-soft-starter.html or www.rockwellautomation.com/en-us/products/hardware/allen-bradley/motor-control/soft-starters--low-voltage/smc-50-solid-state.html.
DOL = Direct On Line. A Direct On Line Motor Starter (DOL) consist of a Circuit Breaker, Contactor, and an overload relay for protection. This type of starter delivers full voltage through the starter and does not have the capability for speed regulation or soft-starting.
My one of the best RUclips educational channel.. I really learned a Lott about automation through your channel. Can you please explain how to do Programming in Softsorter How to operate Softstarter?
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Hi John, That's a good question, thank you! You will have to look at the data spec sheet of your air conditioner. There is a soft starter for AC units on the market, and some AC have them build it. Depending on your needs and budget. The soft starter must be connected between the controller and the motor units you want to control. Not sure where you are located, but here is a link for your learning. softstarthome.com/ Happy learning!
Torque is proportional to inertia The torque required for a hydraulic motor is dependent upon the fluid flow rate and pressure developed in the hydraulic lines (usually >1000psi). So, yes, hydraulic motors can have high torque requirements. For hydraulic systems, power clutches are used to regulate the starting pressures (hence, torque and inertia). These devices are not really soft-starters, but rather hydraulic "regulators" that act similarly to reduced voltage motor starters.
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Yes you can use a soft starter (not software starter) with a slip-ring induction motor. You can set up most soft starters to give a starting profile that meets your specific needs. Every motor is different, so if you are unsure of how to set up your specific system, consult your motor supplier for guidelines and limitations for starting circuits.
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Really well described. I have bought a 15kW Sawmill and I have bought a soft start with several different start modes. In my setting where I would like to start the motor without destroying the 25A fuse (3P 400V) I have 2 settings to choose from, Either:1. current limiting setting or 2.Voltage Ramp setting. But Im not sure which one to choose for my scenario, what do you think?
Hello Jonas Granlund, Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, I can’t answer your question, because I don’t know your application and your engineering setup. But I can suggest you look at your soft starters’ manual graphic charts to help you with your torque load and speed output at your load requirements. It should address the amps used for your settings. And make sure you have the wire feed sized correctly to handle the load. Happy learning!
@@realpars Thank you so much for the response, when I look at the graphs and read the manual I get the feeling that the Current limiting mode is a little more advanced and reduce voltage when the Current start to overshoot the set-value. But I'm not sure how high I dare to set the current limit and the amount of second it needs to be delayed. This is what the manual say about this start mode: The current limiting starting mode is generally used in occasions with strict requirements on starting current, especially when the power grid capacity is too small. To limit the starting capacity, the current limiting multiple can be set according to the requirements, which is generally between 2.5 and 3 times. If the setting is too small, the normal starting will not be possible. When current limiting starting is adopted, the starting time is related to the current limiting multiple.
Yes, a VFD can be set up to provide the same benefits as a soft starter. However, if you do not need speed regulation as a normal operating strategy, using a soft starter will be more economical.
Hi RealPars; great videos as always! I'm trying to produce some industrial automation content & tutorials myself. Would love a shoutout! Thank you for everything you do.
At 3:10 I see the soft starter and, besides (parallel) a contactor. So, my question is : How these two components work together? It could be that when the motor starts only the soft starter works, then, when the frequency and voltage are adjusted (by the soft starter), the contactor is activated and the soft starter disconnected. To me that's the explanation. But, another doubt : When we hit the stop button...Is the process the inverse of the starting? , I mean, both contactor and soft started are connected, the the contactor i disconnected and at the end only the soft started is stopping the motor? I will appreciate your explanations.
You are likely correct on the use of the parallel contactor. It is also possible that this particular motor is used in two different modes, one requiring a soft-start and one that does not. Although not completely drawn correctly, Siemens does make a line of motor monitoring modules that is installed in parallel and is cabled to the main motor controller, but I would believe your suggestion is most likely correct.
parallel contactor would represent an emergency bypass starter. When soft starter is nor working properly, the control will close the emergency bypass to allow motor operation.
Thanks for sharing, Christian! This is indeed a great video that will answer your question @rhythmandacaustics Let us know if you would still have some questions afterwards. Happy learning!
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I want my air conditioner to start quieter, would this help? I'm also wondering about whole house capacitor to prevent voltage drops and dimming lights?
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@@realpars you can get individual capacitors for individual appliances but I think it's an interesting question whether one could have a whole house capacitor to perform the job of avoiding voltage drop at air conditioners or other large appliances. I also think that appliances like air conditioners which are still 100% on or off are inefficient. Any large appliance that could potentially have any savings starting slower like an air conditioning compressor unit, HVAC fan, washing machine, oven, stove you name it, seems like everything should start slowly to save money. Or at least have an optional setting to do so like an eco mode.
you should upgrade your AC system with inverter compresor. It has variable speeds that depends on load. Lighter load, compressor runs slower and quieter
@@lordred7462 it is a new Goodman gsx13 scroll compressor, not bad... works very well but the start up is loud... I'd love to upgrade to a DC inverter style, wonder what a 3 ton unit would cost.
The short answer is YES, since both limit the line voltage on start. The electronics inside of the soft starter represents an improvement over the star-delta (or wye-delta) starter arrangement, and soft starters accomplish the same benefits at a higher efficiency.
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Very informative videos from RealPars i am definetly learning a lot and get better understanding on the things i work with daily
The graphics and the explanation used to explain this is is i guess the easiest to understand and apply ... Love this platform 👍
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I'm planning a whole house backup generator which includes running my 3 ton Air Conditioner. The problem WAS my AC was blowing my budget because it would require an 8000 watt minimum generator to handle the initial startup of the unit. I found this soft starter and installed it on my AC (took about 10min.) and now I can run my entire house on a 3500 watt generator. Saved me $$
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World top3 widely used Plc systems..
Siemens, Allen Bradley, Mitsubishi
Which one is best for 3 ton air conditioner?
@@ArcolaBridge I don't know. Maybe three them all possible because nowadays techniques are best upgraded.
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Great explanations and examples shown.
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I did an industrial practice and found a soft starter circuit on a cooling tower application
i continuously support you for your perfection in the automation field i suggest for you to give as a video on for Modbus tcp ip is connected between a step7 and numerical relay i followed most of your video in industrial communication but you did not mention this point good luck thank you in advance
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I dont think people understand the amount of current these large electric motors use. I saw an accident where the motor was physically isolated while fitters aligned the shaft. The apprentice was given the job of stripping and installing wires to the first junction box (safely isolated under permit). While aligning the shaft it is necessary to very slowly rotate the shaft 90 and then 180 degrees. Just a very slow quarter turn on the shaft was enough to generate quite shock and injure the apprentice. Heads did roll because anyone with a high voltage license should have known this. Hard instead of soft start at the same time as an alignment problem nearly bought down a five story structure with me on it and does do a lot of damage to a lot more than just the motor and system it is powering.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge with us, Mick!
Mick This is a great comment and reference from experience. Once never had or seen this happen but you never quite ever know until it happens. As well I’ve been around 4160 Motors being aligned so never quite know until something unexpected happens.
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Hello Sir, for ur last example motor for conveyor, which one is good DOL or soft starter?
For conveyors, soft starters are recommended, especially if the conveyor needs to be started under load (with boxes, parts, or other pieces on the conveyor). Belt slippage with sudden starts with a DOL starter can cause the belts to wear faster, especially for larger systems.
Normally how many additional years will you add up to the life of the motor when using a soft starter compared with a full voltage starter?
Great question, but difficult to answer. Life of a motor depends on a host of factors, but using a properly sized, installed, and configured soft starter should extend the life of your motor by up to 25%. The normal life of a motor in years has too many variables to make a quantitative assessment of increased life in years. That all depends on the load, torque requirement at startup, motor design, and how the motor is run (frequent start/stop?, etc.).
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Hope we can request manufacturers to conduct test
please can you explain how to programme soft starter
Every manufacturer's soft starter is a little different, but most require that you set the line voltage, full load amps, current limit, and torque boost. Beyond that, acceleration, deceleration time, and other parameters specific to that manufacturer's drive are set via a front panel interface or serial programming interface. While VFD's may have 100+ configuration parameters, soft starters usually require less than 10.
Can you control a permanent magnet motor with a soft start?
Yes. PM motors should use a soft-start or VFD for starting and control to avoid large current inrushes that may lead to motor or component failure. It is always best to check with the manufacturer of the drive you wish to use to see if there are any recommendations for use of their devices with PM motors. Some manufacturers, such as Yaskawa, have specific models or features that are provided specifically for use with PM motors.
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Is vfd a sift starter or there is difference between vfd and sift starters?
Vfd is to control speed soft starter is used for starting the motor
softstarter use to control the starting and stopping the motor
same thing except you're using only one function of the vfd
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I agree
Suprised they don't build these things into most ac units,etc
The love and appreciation for the team that makes and delivers these videos can be difficult to really convey because it’s highly regarded, so as well is the person narrating the videos. I worked for years as a Tech in the Utility Plant Environment around many equipment with Soft-starters as well VFD’s and never quite understanding properly quite how they worked in a properly explained way like explained by RealPars. I feel so much appreciation from the care taken to make these videos in explanation in demystifying industrial automation understanding. I’m so much smarter because I’m here!
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Technology is fascinating. I am just a young adult who is interested in science and technology, and was hoping that there was a device that can reduce flickering of the lights when the air conditioning starts (current inrush). Apparently, someone invented it: the soft starter, and RealPars explained it so well (visual learner here). 10/10 good video. :)
*Would be nice if air conditioners, dehumidifiers and fridges could gently start up. Sadly, domestic air conditioners typically don't have enough inertia to necessitate a soft start system, which can cost a lot of money. Also, the flicker of the lights occur for just 1/10th of a second. Thankfully, most my bulbs are LED, so only one or two incandescents flicker. Also, variable stage air-conditioning does exist, and they use similar motor ramp-ups to alternating current soft starts to reduce initial energy consumption.
I build a simple soft starter circuit for use on some of my power tools. The big problem is that I must manually through a switch on the starter itself while the tool's switch is closed. Works great, but a hassle and dangerous. I wish someone came out with a small size retrofit addon kit for saws and other high surge current motors that don't NEED to have balls out instant starting. Be great for construction worksites running off a generator.
Makes me wonder if soft starters could be added before the electric socket, so whatever you plug into the circuit plug gets the soft start (one or more designated outlets for high current equipment)
@@troy3456789 Check out Raymond Innovations. They have a fully self contained soft start box you can plug into any machine that uses a brush type motor. I purchased the Model GS-10 a couple years ago and it works great! I use it for my Skil saw, chop saws, vacuum cleaners too. Does not work so well for motors that use a starting capacitor though. Not cheap @ 150.00.
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Bah. This was clearly a Siemens advertisement!
It is a professional explaining and clearly. Thank you very much for your efforts
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I've used youtube since 2005, I've subscribed to hundreds of channels... but I only clicked the bell button on this one because the animation is great, the voice is great, the way it teaches is great, and most of all, it talks about devices that are actually relevant to the industry, including high-tech modern devices. Can't say the same about my university... learning about analogue meters. Jesus christ, what is this, 1950? Imagine having an interview and you get to teach the interviewer about the most modern up-to-date tech... that's a big deal. Managers don't want to employ guys that they have to teach... but it's great if the manager has someone who can teach HIM.
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This is more "why you should use a "softstart" rather than how a soft start actually works. Need more info on voltage out to motor over ramp time. How much voltage is applied? what is the starting voltage? how much does the voltage increase per ramp time set point? Does the voltage ramp up or is it gated?
I've been doing industrial maintenance and motor control for over 30 years, and lately, a soft starter might be a couple dollars cheaper, but inverters can do everything they do, and a whole lot more with a helluva lot more versatility.
Even the most plain Jane inverter can do everything a soft starter does, is practically the same price, and is hella easier to find and quicker to get.
Just installed one on my Central A/C's outside condenser to reduce inrush amps. Later I will get a whole house generator, this was the reason I installed it. My inrush amps went from 120A to 40A. It learned how much it needed to start and reduced over a few starts. 120A, 80A, 60A, 40A Something like that.
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Please how do you make your animation ?
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inrush... is not "voltage" BUT CURRENT!!
From 5 to 7 times the run current
The bigger the motor the more destructive is its INRUSH CURRENT at start up time.
VFD Soft-starters ramp up the PHASE FREQUENCY there by limiting the current required NOT the voltage.
👍🏻
A triac affects the voltage too.
Yes, the intent is to reduce the inrush current. But the control is via voltage. The triacs in the soft starter are triggered at a specified voltage of the incoming waveform to limit the voltage seen by the motor and thereby reduce the current consumed by the motor.
Low voltage=high current
High voltage=low current
Therefore if you intent to lower the current you need to adjust the voltage.
@@joeanne6258 No. We're not talking about a transformer where you're converting voltage and amperage while keeping wattage constant. We're talking about inrush current which is effectively determined by Ohm's law I=V/R. Since we can't do anything about the resistance, we decrease the available voltage via the triac.
I am from mechanical dept. Can anyone briefly tell what is triac? Is it also called ICBT?
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Basic electronics, they always say "what is the worst thing you can do to your [insert electric equipment here]? Answer: Turn it on.
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Can you do an advanced video where you explain the function in more details with the correct formulars ? And you didn't mention another big problem when starting big (medium voltage) motors direct on line: The huge voltage drop which occurs due to the high starting current of 6-7 times nominal current. This is often not accepted by the power supplier company and therefore you have to reduce starting current with, for example, a stoft starter.
I have a 120vac water circulation pump I want to put a soft starter on.
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As the terminal box is only at the fixed side then why you shown the input lines connected from different place for DOL and Soft starter as compared to star- delta..?
You are correct. Motors do have a terminal box on the motor to which all motor leads from the starter are connected. Showing different connections for DOL and Star-Delta in the video was for comparison and illustrative purposes only. The motor leads are connected to the same physical location on the drive in either configuration.
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Would we push so many of electrons to do the jobs that earth could do without even use of force? For example instead of using large motor to run the conveyor, we could use sensitive hydraulic balancing to tilt the conveyor and let the load and gravity play its way to destination or use gravity to fill the tank instead of pumping ?... The same concept for all one way road construction with 1 degree downward slope and reduce cost on transportation fuel or force on city road and streets design
I have a 10 Hp electric motor that uses 47 RLA's the torque I'm trying to overcome is substantial. Think a soft start would help more than say a hard start kit?
Yes, a soft starter would limit the amp draw when the motor is first started. With a high starting torque requirement, the starting amps would be significant. A soft starter would provide a smoother start, but it will take a little longer to come up to speed. However, the possibility of popping a fuse at start is greatly reduced.
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a video explaining how to control a soft starter using ethernet via TIA Portal please, thanks for all the effort xD
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Thank you very much , I am new at this, I enjoy the explanations and graphics you share.
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are y'all gonna make a video on real pars on how to control a vfd with a PLC?
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Is it like a capacitor in a ceiling fan???
Can you explain in simple terms first and then in industrial level
INDHRA KIRANU N A it's like a dimmer on a light except changes the frequency going to the motor so it starts the motor slow and gradually increases the speed of the motor till full speed however vfds can do more than just ramp up the speed of the Motor they can control the speed of the motor as well as the rotation of the motor
INDHRA KIRANU N A Eaton videos has a 16 minute video on here called VFD 101 basics
That is one of the best explanations on YT
Now I understood why my reactor agitator (current working place) start slowly then after 5sec it rotates fast. Thanks for uploading. Explained very well.
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Will the motor links have to be setup in delta with the Siemens Soft starter?
Yes. Delta gives you full voltage across each winding. The soft starter sort of acts as a Wye-Delta starter, giving a reduced voltage at startup.
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Nice explanation of a soft starter. Can they also be used to power up step-up transformers? Where I live, i have 230V 3-Phase. My work shop main line is 16A 3-phase, 230V. Most of my machines run on 400V 3-phase, so i have a small transformer that is rated at 16A inlet and 10A outlet. Almost every time I switch on the thransformer circuit (through a contactor) the 16A circuit braker trips. This is due to high inrush current i believe. Some times i have to try 3-4 times or more before i can switch on the ciruit without tripping the breakers. Note, the circuit is unloaded when switched on. I never have problems when putting load on the circuit, such as motors etc.
Is this an application for a soft starter? Thanks.
The current on the secondary side of a step-up transformer will be less than that on the primary, since power (V x A) is conserved (minus a little efficiency loss). However, since the secondary (as well as the primary) are inductive loads, they behave somewhat like a motor would, with the possibility of a larger inrush current. I would use properly-sized time-delay fuses on the primary feed instead of the breakers you are currently using. This will likely fix your issue. You could try a soft-starter, but that will be expensive by comparison, and may not fix your issue.
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I wish soft starters were cheaply available for airconditioners. It that way the can be easily supplied by solar power
There are a few new models in the market that do this, they are integrated in the AC unit. I think they call it inverter technology or dual compressor AC. We have a lot of them here in MExico but they are more costly than regular ones
This channel is really helpful for me as a graduate electrical engineer. Would love to see more industrial videos. Thank you! Keep it up👍
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Great Video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video... It's educating. However I have a question; which capacity of Softstarter would be suitable for a particular Motor. Example, I have a 55kw electric motor, how many kw or amperage Softstarter would be suitable for that application
The best way to determine the proper Softstarter is to reference the literature of the manufacturer of your preferred vendor. 55kW (75hp @ 460VAC) requires a starter with a 110A capacity @ 460VAC. For example, see: new.siemens.com/global/en/products/automation/industrial-controls/sirius/sirius-hybrid/3rw-soft-starter.html or www.rockwellautomation.com/en-us/products/hardware/allen-bradley/motor-control/soft-starters--low-voltage/smc-50-solid-state.html.
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what do you mean by DOL? please☺
DOL = Direct On Line. A Direct On Line Motor Starter (DOL) consist of a Circuit Breaker, Contactor, and an overload relay for protection. This type of starter delivers full voltage through the starter and does not have the capability for speed regulation or soft-starting.
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How to operate Softstarter?
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Can you use a soft start on a home air conditioner
Hi John,
That's a good question, thank you! You will have to look at the data spec sheet of your air conditioner. There is a soft starter for AC units on the market, and some AC have them build it. Depending on your needs and budget. The soft starter must be connected between the controller and the motor units you want to control. Not sure where you are located, but here is a link for your learning.
softstarthome.com/
Happy learning!
Do we need soft starters for hydraulic motors? Is there a a high inertia load in hydraulic motors compared to your large fan example in the video?
Torque is proportional to inertia The torque required for a hydraulic motor is dependent upon the fluid flow rate and pressure developed in the hydraulic lines (usually >1000psi). So, yes, hydraulic motors can have high torque requirements. For hydraulic systems, power clutches are used to regulate the starting pressures (hence, torque and inertia). These devices are not really soft-starters, but rather hydraulic "regulators" that act similarly to reduced voltage motor starters.
What is the difference between soft stater and vfd
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Is it possible to use software Starter for slip ring induction motor,and can replace rheostat unit for higher starting torque?
Yes you can use a soft starter (not software starter) with a slip-ring induction motor. You can set up most soft starters to give a starting profile that meets your specific needs. Every motor is different, so if you are unsure of how to set up your specific system, consult your motor supplier for guidelines and limitations for starting circuits.
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que programa utilizan para los graficos diseño
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Really well described. I have bought a 15kW Sawmill and I have bought a soft start with several different start modes. In my setting where I would like to start the motor without destroying the 25A fuse (3P 400V) I have 2 settings to choose from, Either:1. current limiting setting or 2.Voltage Ramp setting. But Im not sure which one to choose for my scenario, what do you think?
Hello Jonas Granlund,
Thank you for your question.
Unfortunately, I can’t answer your question, because I don’t know your application and your engineering setup. But I can suggest you look at your soft starters’ manual graphic charts to help you with your torque load and speed output at your load requirements. It should address the amps used for your settings. And make sure you have the wire feed sized correctly to handle the load.
Happy learning!
@@realpars Thank you so much for the response, when I look at the graphs and read the manual I get the feeling that the Current limiting mode is a little more advanced and reduce voltage when the Current start to overshoot the set-value. But I'm not sure how high I dare to set the current limit and the amount of second it needs to be delayed. This is what the manual say about this start mode: The current limiting starting mode is generally used in occasions with strict
requirements on starting current, especially when the power grid capacity is too small.
To limit the starting capacity, the current limiting multiple can be set according to
the requirements, which is generally between 2.5 and 3 times. If the setting is too
small, the normal starting will not be possible. When current limiting starting is
adopted, the starting time is related to the current limiting multiple.
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I´m from Brazil and i will make a schoolwork about Soft Starter
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Please make the videos on different programming blocks in Siemens PLC
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Where can we buy soft starter
You can purchase a soft starter from "shop.realpars.com" or from any major automation supply company (ABB, Siemens, Rockwell, Schneider, etc.).
Very informative..
Thanks for your clear explanation.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing, Naresh!
Very usefull information, and very easy to understand!!!
Congrats
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Can vfd work as a soft starter?
Yes, a VFD can be set up to provide the same benefits as a soft starter. However, if you do not need speed regulation as a normal operating strategy, using a soft starter will be more economical.
Best video.
Please make some videos on power system /substation automation.
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Great video. Can you make a video about Pilz safety system, how to communicate with s7 and principle of it. Thank you guys so much.
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Hi RealPars; great videos as always! I'm trying to produce some industrial automation content & tutorials myself. Would love a shoutout! Thank you for everything you do.
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At 3:10 I see the soft starter and, besides (parallel) a contactor. So, my question is : How these two components work together? It could be that when the motor starts only the soft starter works, then, when the frequency and voltage are adjusted (by the soft starter), the contactor is activated and the soft starter disconnected.
To me that's the explanation. But, another doubt : When we hit the stop button...Is the process the inverse of the starting? , I mean, both contactor and soft started are connected, the the contactor i disconnected and at the end only the soft started is stopping the motor?
I will appreciate your explanations.
You are likely correct on the use of the parallel contactor. It is also possible that this particular motor is used in two different modes, one requiring a soft-start and one that does not. Although not completely drawn correctly, Siemens does make a line of motor monitoring modules that is installed in parallel and is cabled to the main motor controller, but I would believe your suggestion is most likely correct.
@@realpars Thanks a million for your reply. I hadn't kept in mind the fact that a motor can operate in two modes: with or without a soft starter.
parallel contactor would represent an emergency bypass starter. When soft starter is nor working properly, the control will close the emergency bypass to allow motor operation.
@@mikeodell9688 A great explanation. You're right. Thank you so much!
Never used a softstarter, always VFD. What is the main difference between the two exactly. Why would one choose over the other?
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@@realpars love the videos you guys put out! Finishing some AB training then plan on giving you guys a try
Such a great channel .
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Existen cursos em português da Real parts ?
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Explain in Hindi
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I want my air conditioner to start quieter, would this help? I'm also wondering about whole house capacitor to prevent voltage drops and dimming lights?
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This would make for a great topic suggestion for the future, I will happily pass this on to our course developers.
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@@realpars you can get individual capacitors for individual appliances but I think it's an interesting question whether one could have a whole house capacitor to perform the job of avoiding voltage drop at air conditioners or other large appliances. I also think that appliances like air conditioners which are still 100% on or off are inefficient. Any large appliance that could potentially have any savings starting slower like an air conditioning compressor unit, HVAC fan, washing machine, oven, stove you name it, seems like everything should start slowly to save money. Or at least have an optional setting to do so like an eco mode.
you should upgrade your AC system with inverter compresor. It has variable speeds that depends on load. Lighter load, compressor runs slower and quieter
@@lordred7462 it is a new Goodman gsx13 scroll compressor, not bad... works very well but the start up is loud... I'd love to upgrade to a DC inverter style, wonder what a 3 ton unit would cost.
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Instant of star/delta circuit we can use soft starter?
The short answer is YES, since both limit the line voltage on start. The electronics inside of the soft starter represents an improvement over the star-delta (or wye-delta) starter arrangement, and soft starters accomplish the same benefits at a higher efficiency.
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