something worth noticing; the 32x does have additional audio capabilities; that even exceed the genesis; and some games like knuckles chaotix uses them for more complex music
yeah its got a 2 channel pwm chip which passes through the genesis audio from the av input to the av output, some sound drivers use software mixing to make sample channels like chaotix's version of smps which adds 4 pwm sample channels
Indead's Game Room I had to switch set ups a few times in the past few years and this is the go to video I use. Seriously trying to explain how to set up anything genesis related is like talking rocket science lol there’s no easy way out either. Again thanks for taking your time making this video.
Yes indeedy, and honestly, Nintendo did the same with the extension port on the bottom of the SNES, their disc based system add-on though, ultimately failed to launch, and they of course wouldn't enter into the digital disc world until 2001 with the Gamecube. SEGA though was always on the edge of trying to do something new with the console hardware, for better, or for worse.
"And picture this - if it was a Model 1 Genesis, it would've been even more of a spectacular mess." ~The Angry Video Game Nerd, while discussing the Sega 32x
even 6 years after you made this video, still greatly relevant and super useful, super sega cd collector myself, so the sega 32x cds are part of that collection it took me 3 years to finally obtain a 32x in a for parts lot and it was said to be not working, but i think they just didn;t know how to hook-it up and neither did i, can't thank you enough
0:50 Misconception. AC and DC Adapters do the same exact thing. They convert AC to DC. AC is what comes out of our walls. If you take for example a PAL SNES PSU and use it on a Megadrive model 1 or Genesis model 1 its is totally fine except for the amount of voltage it draws and the amps it draws (i don't exactly know about that as I have never tried it all I know is the connector is the same). Hypothetically IF the SNES did have an adapter that some how converted AC to AC then the Megadrive or Genesis would probably fry nearly instantly. Most electronics have adapters and PSUs to convert AC to DC. Very few electronics use direct AC from the wall. So as long as the ratings of voltage and amps are all matched or close (more importantly the voltage should be the same) then it should be fine. Edit: Forgot to mention that the polarity could be be different on certain power adapters as some have the positive and negatives inverted. One time I needed to test to see if a model 2 Genesis adapter would work on a SNES so what I did was shove wires (keep in mind I used a broken motherboard that had a bad PPU so the SNES's light turned on I knew it was fine) into the plug of the Genesis adapter and shoved them into the power connector of the SNES and I put the centre pin into the centre pin and when I did this the SNES would not turn on so I inverted it and it worked. (Also if I had kept it on with the negative and positive switched then it would fry after a few moments. I flicked the switch and quickly turned it off so I knew it would be alright)
2020 and this is the most useful how-to video on RUclips. Just bought a gen 1 Sega Genesis, like the one I had as a teen, and bought a 32x to go with it. Plan to get a Sega CD as well. Mostly for aesthetics as the Sega SD can play Sega CD games off a cart.
the best tut so far, very detail, precise and cool audio tut. gonna try that one too about the audio hook up in2 sega cd to stereo slot of the sega genesis . thumbs up bro! :)
The other important power spec is polarity. Sega CD uses the less-common center-negative polarity. Fortunately, your replacement does too. For some reason Japan continued using that for a while longer after the rest of the world standardized on center-positive but the Genesis 2 and 32X finally got it right. Master System, Genesis 1, Sega CD 1, and Sega CD 2 will all work with the Genesis 1 MK-1602 power supply or compatible. They all use the standard 5.5x2.1mm plug tip, which is the most common by far. You will never kill a console by having too few amps but it may not work or be unstable until you give it enough. Most have a lot of overhead for future expansions and accessories (four controllers in a multitap plus a lock-on cartridge with an SVP CPU, for example) so it’s definitely worth trying a 1A center-negative PSU if you have one handy. It’s safe to go over the amperage too since the system will only draw what it needs. The voltage regulator converts excess voltage to heat as it steps 9v down to 5v so a little extra voltage just means a little extra heat through the heat sinks. Even 12v is generally safe, though I’d try to stay below that. NEO PRO-POW3 and TurboGrafx-16 will both work, though TG16 may not work in every possible configuration (low on amps).
I have genesis Mk1 and Sega cd mk2 like in video , I understood the mechanics of how the audio works but my god it’s literally on life support lol !! Thnx for the tutorial I was using the genesis RF connector and just switched to the composite and was trouble shooting no cd sound and remembered something about the red and white composite cables !!! Thnx a bunch
When finding a power supply, you can use one that has a higher amperage, but not a lower one. e.g. In this case, you need a power supply that's 1200 Ma or higher. A higher rating won't hurt anything because the system will not draw any more than it needs. When it comes to voltage, you do need it to be exact.
I have model 2 genesis, sega cd 2 and 32x. I bought the 3 in 1 power supply (must have) and a scart converter with retrotink scart to HDMI. I connected my system to my receiver. I have tested it and I use the Sega Cd audio jack outputs over the sega 32x out for sound. There is a higher feedback through the 32X.
I love how insane this whole set up is, I have a model 1 and 32X, and am trying to find a model 2 sega cd. I will hopefully have this same set up one day soon!
Glad to hear it my man! Best of luck to your endeavors my man, lots of good gaming will be opened up with the full setup, dont' forget the Power Base Converter! ;D
Most CRT TVs, when using their own built-in composite inputs, will automatically double the white plug's sound to both speakers if the red plug is left empty. Most HDTVs, however, will not.
the original power adaptor that came with the sega cd 2 was exactly identical to the one that came with sega genesis 1. I have both and aside from labeling them as such you cannot tell them apart. Also regarding the 32x hook up there are supposed to be 2 metal clips that are supposed to hold the cartridge slot door open and provide power contact between the 32x and genesis. if you examine the cartridge insert section of the 32x you'll notice metal contacts on it that's what the clips holding the cartridge door open are supposed to contact.
Those clips are just RF shielding. They're grounded, but don't provide power anywhere. It's a requirement to pass FCC regulations, plus in theory it could provide a higher quality signal (I doubt they actually do anything noticable) You can certainly play without them, and most people do, as they've been lost long ago.
I went on a mission today to get all of these cables and systems and succeeded. Jesus Christmas I just bought all of the cables and power bricks on eBay. Got a model one a my local game store. Got a sega cd and 32x on eBay and got mounting brackets too. About 250$!
you can get all audio with an aux cord right ahead of the hearphone Jack, meaning i dont need an aux for the mixing Jack, in model 2 just plug the RCA slot & thats it
I have the same setup but,I have a small woofer which runs four smaller speakers hooked up to the back of it so when i hook up the woofer to the front stereo port on the genesis you get kick ass sound! also running a pair of creative speakers with built in woofers works too!
Your receiver is almost identical to mine, Yamaha RX-V361 and yours is a RX-V367. Also note that the polarity on the power adaptors for the Genesis and CD are negative to the tip, opposite to most adaptors (like the 32x one!) which have positive tips. Very important for people buying a power supply, it'd be like putting batteries in backwards!
Thank you so much for posting this. I figured out I was shorted the power adapter all together for the Sega CD. At least I know why my disc isn't working
+Nicole Koza Well, on one hand I'm glad I was able to help you diagnose your problem, on the other hand, I'm sorry to hear that bad news :-\ Hope you can get your hands on a new AC adapter real soon!
The sega cd hardware contains its own additional sound synth chip "along with the digital to analog converter for audio from the disk ,, plus it takes the stereo audio output from the headphone jack on the "model 1 genesis" , and mixes it withtogether with the cd sounds giving the system more audio capability's including 8 channel PCM (the sega cd can play digital sound samples in its memory and play them back through this hardware) ,, "only the model 2 genesis can output "stereo sound on the pins from its expansion bus connector so the headphone cord is not needed in this case to pass the genesis internal audio to the sega cd unit sound mixing hardware . the sega cd not only plays sounds off tracks on the disk it can be programed to play back up to 8 channels of sampled sounds on its own.
I recently bought a GENESIS model 1 RGB SCART cable, to hook up my Model 2 SEGA CD audio with a male to male AUX mix cable, probably I can move on to use my RCA to my sound system right? Well I have a RGB2COMP TRANSCODER, my HDMI upscaler or a SCART to BNC breakout cable for my PVM, so there's audio out so I don't need to take it to the SEGA CD RCA inputs, instead I'm using a short RCA to male AUX cable, a female to female AUX barrel and connect the SCART cable AUX cord there... Pretty cool huh
I modded my sega gensesis 1 and put video and audio jacks in the back, abd it looks and sounds great, i never had that problem with the sound on sega cd, but then again I know what I’m doing when it goes modding, everyone has there own way of modding
You should check out the Sega Trio. It's a 3rd party power adapter that can plug into all 3 units and supply them with proper power. They made them to fit all different models, as well as dual ones that will fit only a genesis and cd/32x.
I use a Scart cable, just that I don't like how the composite video looks like, I use a scart to component transcoder which it delivers a better picture on my TV, although S-video still recommended bcuz I have model 2 genesis modded, and it's important to know that the composite video it's a sync method for RGB, it's a safe bet :)
32x have it's own audio hardware, so you're wrong. For games like Knuckles Chaotix it's very, very noticeable if you gather audio from audio jack on Genesis only or if you get audio from 32x.
Lmao. Base converter for 20 dollars. Now you're lookingat $80+ Hell the model 1 spacers for the sega cd are $70+ God prices are rediculous in like 10 years.
My life is fucked up and I am idiot but THIS CLUSTERFUCK OF CONNECTING IS THE REASON WHY I LOVE THIS SEGA GENESIS/SEGA MEGA DRIVE+SEGA CD/MEGA CD+SEGA 32X CONNECTION CRAP.
Not true about the power adapter considering they sell an after market adapter that plugs into NES, SNES, and Genesis model 1. I'm using one right now.
the only thing i can appreciate from rf adaptors is that its only one cable. no aux cord going from genesis to cd, no 2 seperate composite cables from 32x and cd, just the av cable from a 32x and an rf adaptor. picture quality sucks but less wires
Wow I have your exact setup and never used the mixing area on the Sega cd. I might give that a try. Thanks for this VERY informative video. I always thought it sounded normal. Im missing alot hey? So the audio coming from the 32x to tv is not used? Use the audio only from the sega cd? Thanks man.
damn, what a project, you really gotta admire Sega's creativity, instead of making a new console they would add on the old one to make it better, imagine if companies did that today, instead of getting a PS4, Sony makes an attachment for the PS3, to increase its Visual output to make it look better. Sega really was ahead of their time, too bad that damn lack of a DVD player in the dreamcast made it the final console
A little editing advice you should have played a little of some gameplay as a closing. Great video though for people that are not audio/video sabby with these units obviously. I'll be looking out for more videos. Great hobby of retro gaming collector I'll tell ya there are some really dedicated collectors out there. LOL Crazy Hobby Addicted People! Cheers!!!
Its so weird i cant find that ac adapter for the sega cd, but i do have plenty of plugs that would fit, its just the mA part that their all under 1200, but they check every other box, so would it be okay to use those?
All AC adapters convert AC to DC. So Super Nintendo adapter won't push AC current into a Genesis. However what is different is perhaps voltage and amp rating. There's also the polarity of the end plug that goes into the console. If the polarity is different then you could fry the console. If both adapters are the same however and use the same voltage, you're fine as long as it's amp rating is high enough. Unlike voltage, you can have an adapter that provides a higher amp rating then the console needs. But NEVER use an adapter that outputs a different voltage then what the console was designed to use. That's the main thing that can cause problems. That + polarity. but I don't recall if that was different with Nintendo adapters. The AC input voltage is always the same for all adapters unless you did something crazy and tried to use a European adapter in a US socket. AC voltages are different depending on what country you live in. As long as both your adapters are designed to operate in the same country, it will use the same AC voltage and this you don't have to worry about.
I think he means NES adapters. Those output AC, and the console, internally, converts to DC. So you can't use a NES adapter with the Genesis, but you can use the Gen adapter on the NES (the console would "convert" DC to DC, or ignore it, IDK) That's american/western NES, Famicoms output DC AFAIK
Claudio Zamorano That is a strange way to make an adapter. They should have just integrated the entire thing into the console instead of doing something weird like that. :P
I have VGA to Component YuPrPb Transcoder by RCA that also uses an AC to AC adaptor I was quite bewildered by that arrangement as well not sure that I had ever been cognizant that something like that would exist. Why wouldn''t they just make it AC to DC like everyone else lol
Good video but honestly for every purpose new cable , now you got whole spaghetti behind console. If possible as a viewer of your channel can you make any video to reduce that clutter. Big thanks
Howdy man, in reality there are modern hand made solutions that people have done. Theres a seller online that a buddy of mine has used to get a custom single adapter that has 2-3 leads depending on what arrangement you have. So if it's a model 1 or 2 Genesis and then if it's a model 1 or 2 SEGA CD that you intend to hook up, and again a 3rd lead can be added for 32X, and based on your power draw needs, in terms of Voltage and Amperage he'll build a custom adapter that'll match your exact arrangements needs, including the right style of connectors you need (Model 1 Genesis power cable is very different in shape than that of the model 2 Genesis [which the 32X and even the model 3 Sega Genesis are able to share their same power supply for the 32X and even Genesis model 3) So using the Genesis as an example you need a Model 1(10V 1.2A) versus Model 2(9 Volt .85A) and so on he'll build a power supply that'll match the exact draw, plus the one you'd need for your matching Sega CD and then the 32X if you intended to use that too, again it can be custom built to the exact specs your personal arrangment is hungry for. As much as I love what I did in my older videos, I won't deny that many advances have come about in just the last 3-4 years that have made hooking up retro consoles to TVs even easier. ESPECIALLY on the video output front. Modern Component/HDMI solutions have popped up everywhere and are making it easier than ever before to enjoy classics on newer sets.
@@Indead bro I am you already know that I am your channel viewer and fan , that was helpful explanation, may I request a repair on sega cd player the one you demonstrated in the video. Your elaboration on every topic is very good. Thanks always waiting for new content
Which one is the right PSU for the Sega CD Model 2? I've read that Genesis Model 1 would fit but the opposite polarity may fry the system... also on the back says "use the 1602 Genesis AC adaptor only"... fuck... if somebody could help me i'd really appreciate it
..I'm seriously considering going back to my Genny but the whole ten yards.. without re-watching this (I'd even DL'd it how dope a job ye did), can the 32x alone distribute the audio+visual for the rest?
I just got a sega cd m2 along with the power supply and it works just fine. However I looked at the power supply and from what I know it is the same one used for the model 1 genesis. Is this the same one as the actual sega cd power supply? It has the exact model number and it outputs the near same voltage.
So by mixing audio from the headphone jack to CD, i'd loose stereo sound from the same connector. And by the CD's RCA output i could use RCA to 3.5mm adapter to regain that? I was considering getting RGB scart cable with stereo and those have only 3.5mm for the audio.
I just bought a Mega CD model 1. It works perfectly but for some reason the status lights on the front are White instead of green and red and also the access light only once in a blue moon lights up? I know it's not suppose to blink constantly but surely it should at some point of loading a CD? It's not really a big deal but I'd like to fix it, any suggestions?
Jesus Christ what a goddamn mess! And back in 94 before the internet the asking for help part or going to eBay to buy special cables were not possible. In case someone still asks why Sega fucked up the Genesis themselves.
I just got an 32x with no cables whatsoever. I m using a model 2 mega drive A-C adapter on the 32x mega drive (i heard that should work because its the same) but i don t have the cross-over cable. However up to this point i don t know if the 32x even works. If i hook it up with A-C adapter and i do the exact same thing as you in the video minus the cross-over cable......would i be able to play a mega drive game on it via the 32x? For now its giving me a black screen. Since the 32x hasn t a red light or something its impossible to see if the thing works. Can you verrify for me?
Goriszoon you can tell if it works (at least partially) by putting the 32x in the genesis by itself, and putting a sega genesis game in the top. If it loads the game alright, it should be okay, unless the 32x unit's output/input ports don't work, but like you said, you don't have any way to test that right now
You didn’t use the grounding plates for the 32X. Isn’t the Genesis supposed to mount to the Sega CD with some kind of plate? The Sega CD model 2 definitely does. FYI: That’s the kind stuff someone might be looking for in an “in depth” video on the subject. ;)
I bought mine sometime last year (2018) from a trusted seller on eBay , luckily mine came with one it’s called an “RF shield” so yes it’s better to have the plate
I still have my original genesis model 2 system from when I was a kid still works great. I hope to get a sega cd for it soon. I am using a scart cable for my genesis and a scart to hdmi converter box picture looks very good.
+Indead's Game Room What's even cool is that the converter box has a headphone jack so I can plug in headphones since my genesis model 2 has no audio jack.
i have a genesis but no cd or way to give it power or connect it to the tv just got it from my uncle but when i get all the parts im doing this thx btw
Seriously?! I've been playing without mixing the audio this whole time! Man the SEGA CD sounds good when you hook it up properly.
something worth noticing; the 32x does have additional audio capabilities; that even exceed the genesis; and some games like knuckles chaotix uses them for more complex music
yeah its got a 2 channel pwm chip which passes through the genesis audio from the av input to the av output, some sound drivers use software mixing to make sample channels like chaotix's version of smps which adds 4 pwm sample channels
Have never played on a Sega console, but I love the fact that Genesis has all these attachments. Probably bulky as hell, but it looks so cool!
This is literally the best tutorial and should be recommended to anyone!
*Bows* Thank you, thank you, thank you. I had no idea this had nearly 500 Likes, I truly feel honored to be able to help you people.
Indead's Game Room I had to switch set ups a few times in the past few years and this is the go to video I use.
Seriously trying to explain how to set up anything genesis related is like talking rocket science lol there’s no easy way out either.
Again thanks for taking your time making this video.
Yes indeedy, and honestly, Nintendo did the same with the extension port on the bottom of the SNES, their disc based system add-on though, ultimately failed to launch, and they of course wouldn't enter into the digital disc world until 2001 with the Gamecube.
SEGA though was always on the edge of trying to do something new with the console hardware, for better, or for worse.
"And picture this - if it was a Model 1 Genesis, it would've been even more of a spectacular mess."
~The Angry Video Game Nerd, while discussing the Sega 32x
this isnt even my final form
-Sega Genesis 32x CD
@@tl1882 - SEGA Genesis 32x CD model 2 & knuckles
@@hola-gy8te featuring knuckles from the knuckles may cry series NEW KNUCKLES MODE
You can also throw the master system adapter on top of all of it.
@@angelofverdun456 And add a game
7 years later and this video is great. So happy to see this explained right now. :)
Great video. Thanks for making it. I just got a Sega CD Model 2 and now I'm off to hook it up!
Hope you had some success dude, definitely a neat piece of hardware to play with.
even 6 years after you made this video, still greatly relevant and super useful, super sega cd collector myself, so the sega 32x cds are part of that collection it took me 3 years to finally obtain a 32x in a for parts lot and it was said to be not working, but i think they just didn;t know how to hook-it up and neither did i, can't thank you enough
0:50 Misconception. AC and DC Adapters do the same exact thing. They convert AC to DC. AC is what comes out of our walls. If you take for example a PAL SNES PSU and use it on a Megadrive model 1 or Genesis model 1 its is totally fine except for the amount of voltage it draws and the amps it draws (i don't exactly know about that as I have never tried it all I know is the connector is the same). Hypothetically IF the SNES did have an adapter that some how converted AC to AC then the Megadrive or Genesis would probably fry nearly instantly. Most electronics have adapters and PSUs to convert AC to DC. Very few electronics use direct AC from the wall. So as long as the ratings of voltage and amps are all matched or close (more importantly the voltage should be the same) then it should be fine.
Edit: Forgot to mention that the polarity could be be different on certain power adapters as some have the positive and negatives inverted. One time I needed to test to see if a model 2 Genesis adapter would work on a SNES so what I did was shove wires (keep in mind I used a broken motherboard that had a bad PPU so the SNES's light turned on I knew it was fine) into the plug of the Genesis adapter and shoved them into the power connector of the SNES and I put the centre pin into the centre pin and when I did this the SNES would not turn on so I inverted it and it worked. (Also if I had kept it on with the negative and positive switched then it would fry after a few moments. I flicked the switch and quickly turned it off so I knew it would be alright)
Is insane that i watched this before getting a SEGA CD and thanks to this i hooked up properly
2020 and this is the most useful how-to video on RUclips. Just bought a gen 1 Sega Genesis, like the one I had as a teen, and bought a 32x to go with it. Plan to get a Sega CD as well. Mostly for aesthetics as the Sega SD can play Sega CD games off a cart.
the best tut so far, very detail, precise and cool audio tut. gonna try that one too about the audio hook up in2 sega cd to stereo slot of the sega genesis . thumbs up bro! :)
The other important power spec is polarity. Sega CD uses the less-common center-negative polarity. Fortunately, your replacement does too. For some reason Japan continued using that for a while longer after the rest of the world standardized on center-positive but the Genesis 2 and 32X finally got it right.
Master System, Genesis 1, Sega CD 1, and Sega CD 2 will all work with the Genesis 1 MK-1602 power supply or compatible. They all use the standard 5.5x2.1mm plug tip, which is the most common by far.
You will never kill a console by having too few amps but it may not work or be unstable until you give it enough. Most have a lot of overhead for future expansions and accessories (four controllers in a multitap plus a lock-on cartridge with an SVP CPU, for example) so it’s definitely worth trying a 1A center-negative PSU if you have one handy. It’s safe to go over the amperage too since the system will only draw what it needs. The voltage regulator converts excess voltage to heat as it steps 9v down to 5v so a little extra voltage just means a little extra heat through the heat sinks. Even 12v is generally safe, though I’d try to stay below that. NEO PRO-POW3 and TurboGrafx-16 will both work, though TG16 may not work in every possible configuration (low on amps).
Now THIS brings me back, because my dad got me basically exactly this setup when I was a kid. Without the spacer, though.
I have genesis Mk1 and Sega cd mk2 like in video , I understood the mechanics of how the audio works but my god it’s literally on life support lol !! Thnx for the tutorial I was using the genesis RF connector and just switched to the composite and was trouble shooting no cd sound and remembered something about the red and white composite cables !!! Thnx a bunch
I have this same setup, except a model 1 Sega CD. Such a cluster of cables for all this. Nice video Brotha!
When finding a power supply, you can use one that has a higher amperage, but not a lower one. e.g. In this case, you need a power supply that's 1200 Ma or higher. A higher rating won't hurt anything because the system will not draw any more than it needs.
When it comes to voltage, you do need it to be exact.
I have model 2 genesis, sega cd 2 and 32x. I bought the 3 in 1 power supply (must have) and a scart converter with retrotink scart to HDMI. I connected my system to my receiver. I have tested it and I use the Sega Cd audio jack outputs over the sega 32x out for sound. There is a higher feedback through the 32X.
I'm so glad Steve Snake made Fusion.
I love how insane this whole set up is, I have a model 1 and 32X, and am trying to find a model 2 sega cd. I will hopefully have this same set up one day soon!
Glad to hear it my man! Best of luck to your endeavors my man, lots of good gaming will be opened up with the full setup, dont' forget the Power Base Converter! ;D
Indead's Game Room He won't need a power base converter if he gets an EverDrive flash cart ;)
Most CRT TVs, when using their own built-in composite inputs, will automatically double the white plug's sound to both speakers if the red plug is left empty.
Most HDTVs, however, will not.
This is a perfect visual metaphor. Sega was trying to extend the lifespan of the Genesis. The poor thing looks like it's on life support.
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@@claudio4209 I know.
the original power adaptor that came with the sega cd 2 was exactly identical to the one that came with sega genesis 1. I have both and aside from labeling them as such you cannot tell them apart. Also regarding the 32x hook up there are supposed to be 2 metal clips that are supposed to hold the cartridge slot door open and provide power contact between the 32x and genesis. if you examine the cartridge insert section of the 32x you'll notice metal contacts on it that's what the clips holding the cartridge door open are supposed to contact.
Those clips are just RF shielding. They're grounded, but don't provide power anywhere. It's a requirement to pass FCC regulations, plus in theory it could provide a higher quality signal (I doubt they actually do anything noticable)
You can certainly play without them, and most people do, as they've been lost long ago.
I went on a mission today to get all of these cables and systems and succeeded. Jesus Christmas I just bought all of the cables and power bricks on eBay. Got a model one a my local game store. Got a sega cd and 32x on eBay and got mounting brackets too. About 250$!
you can get all audio with an aux cord right ahead of the hearphone Jack, meaning i dont need an aux for the mixing Jack, in model 2 just plug the RCA slot & thats it
Thanks for your vídeo, this clarified all my doubts about this devices...
I have the same setup but,I have a small woofer which runs four smaller speakers hooked up to the back of it so when i hook up the woofer to the front stereo port on the genesis you get kick ass sound! also running a pair of creative speakers with built in woofers works too!
Your receiver is almost identical to mine, Yamaha RX-V361 and yours is a RX-V367.
Also note that the polarity on the power adaptors for the Genesis and CD are negative to the tip, opposite to most adaptors (like the 32x one!) which have positive tips. Very important for people buying a power supply, it'd be like putting batteries in backwards!
Thank you so much for posting this. I figured out I was shorted the power adapter all together for the Sega CD. At least I know why my disc isn't working
+Nicole Koza Well, on one hand I'm glad I was able to help you diagnose your problem, on the other hand, I'm sorry to hear that bad news :-\
Hope you can get your hands on a new AC adapter real soon!
Its ok. I found one on Amazon
I really need to get back to this video after I get all this. thanks a ton for breaking it down man. much appreciation
cristian garcia Haha, I'll be waiting for ya' ;) Glad to be of some assistance!
The sega cd hardware contains its own additional sound synth chip "along with the digital to analog converter for audio from the disk ,, plus it takes the stereo audio output from the headphone jack on the "model 1 genesis" , and mixes it withtogether with the cd sounds giving the system more audio capability's including 8 channel PCM (the sega cd can play digital sound samples in its memory and play them back through this hardware) ,, "only the model 2 genesis can output "stereo sound on the pins from its expansion bus connector so the headphone cord is not needed in this case to pass the genesis internal audio to the sega cd unit sound mixing hardware . the sega cd not only plays sounds off tracks on the disk it can be programed to play back up to 8 channels of sampled sounds on its own.
Great review. Finally got it working!! 5*
I recently bought a GENESIS model 1 RGB SCART cable, to hook up my Model 2 SEGA CD audio with a male to male AUX mix cable, probably I can move on to use my RCA to my sound system right?
Well I have a RGB2COMP TRANSCODER, my HDMI upscaler or a SCART to BNC breakout cable for my PVM, so there's audio out so I don't need to take it to the SEGA CD RCA inputs, instead I'm using a short RCA to male AUX cable, a female to female AUX barrel and connect the SCART cable AUX cord there... Pretty cool huh
The adapter has (.-)+ and that`s not standard, that`s why you should not put a other adapter in your device
Setting up the SEGA Genesis 32x CD felt like building a Lego lol
I modded my sega gensesis 1 and put video and audio jacks in the back, abd it looks and sounds great, i never had that problem with the sound on sega cd, but then again I know what I’m doing when it goes modding, everyone has there own way of modding
You should check out the Sega Trio. It's a 3rd party power adapter that can plug into all 3 units and supply them with proper power. They made them to fit all different models, as well as dual ones that will fit only a genesis and cd/32x.
They also make"Duo" power adapters, if you only want Genesis/CD.
Thank you for explaining this so well! Finally got my system set up right!
You're very welcome, glad I could help, it's definitely tricky! :)
I use a Scart cable, just that I don't like how the composite video looks like, I use a scart to component transcoder which it delivers a better picture on my TV, although S-video still recommended bcuz I have model 2 genesis modded, and it's important to know that the composite video it's a sync method for RGB, it's a safe bet :)
This video was insane and so very helpful. Thanks for the tips!
SEGA:
-Why did the SEGA CD and 32X didn't work?! It was so simple... right?
This video helped me a lot because I just got a Sega CD and when I went to play Sonic CD there was sound but no music
32x have it's own audio hardware, so you're wrong.
For games like Knuckles Chaotix it's very, very noticeable if you gather audio from audio jack on Genesis only or if you get audio from 32x.
Lmao. Base converter for 20 dollars. Now you're lookingat $80+ Hell the model 1 spacers for the sega cd are $70+ God prices are rediculous in like 10 years.
I learned in this video the audio sounds better using the sega cd ports. Sound alot better.
This monstrosity is so complicated even for adults, let alone for kids back in the 90s..
Even when switched off it's looks amazing 💕
Great Video & helpful!
Side note. There exists a custom power brick that has power plugs for all 3 at the same time. Not sure where to find it.
Here: www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-S3-Triple-AC-Power-Adapter-For-Sega-Genesis-Model-1-Sega-CD-32X-FAST-SHIP/163526128983?hash=item2612eab557:g:kA8AAOSwQc9ad3xe
My life is fucked up and I am idiot but THIS CLUSTERFUCK OF CONNECTING IS THE REASON WHY I LOVE THIS SEGA GENESIS/SEGA MEGA DRIVE+SEGA CD/MEGA CD+SEGA 32X CONNECTION CRAP.
Not true about the power adapter considering they sell an after market adapter that plugs into NES, SNES, and Genesis model 1. I'm using one right now.
the only thing i can appreciate from rf adaptors is that its only one cable. no aux cord going from genesis to cd, no 2 seperate composite cables from 32x and cd, just the av cable from a 32x and an rf adaptor. picture quality sucks but less wires
Wow I have your exact setup and never used the mixing area on the Sega cd. I might give that a try. Thanks for this VERY informative video. I always thought it sounded normal. Im missing alot hey? So the audio coming from the 32x to tv is not used? Use the audio only from the sega cd? Thanks man.
im so happy i bought a model 1 some days ago here in my country is a little hard to find
AVGN put it best: "It looks like it's on life support!"
I actually want to get the Model 2 Sega CD and hook it up with my Model 1 Genesis.
good stuff ,,connecting and routing ,to transfer audio n process video .
thanks for showing the 32x the missing link to my set up
There is a 3 way power supply out there it one adapter 3 wires recommended.
damn, what a project, you really gotta admire Sega's creativity, instead of making a new console they would add on the old one to make it better, imagine if companies did that today, instead of getting a PS4, Sony makes an attachment for the PS3, to increase its Visual output to make it look better. Sega really was ahead of their time, too bad that damn lack of a DVD player in the dreamcast made it the final console
the dvd was going to be an add-on u stick on the bottom of the unit thought the modem port.
well i can only imagine by the time they planned on it, it was already over
I had a sega cd model 2 and it works great!
A little editing advice you should have played a little of some gameplay as a closing. Great video though for people that are not audio/video sabby with these units obviously. I'll be looking out for more videos. Great hobby of retro gaming collector I'll tell ya there are some really dedicated collectors out there. LOL Crazy Hobby Addicted People! Cheers!!!
Thanks again for the input man. I'm glad so many people have been able to get some solid use out of these tutorials I've done.
Why not Scart RGB?
hey guy you can use an ac adapter theres countless ones made for the genesis 1, 2 and 3
Its so weird i cant find that ac adapter for the sega cd, but i do have plenty of plugs that would fit, its just the mA part that their all under 1200, but they check every other box, so would it be okay to use those?
All AC adapters convert AC to DC. So Super Nintendo adapter won't push AC current into a Genesis. However what is different is perhaps voltage and amp rating. There's also the polarity of the end plug that goes into the console. If the polarity is different then you could fry the console. If both adapters are the same however and use the same voltage, you're fine as long as it's amp rating is high enough. Unlike voltage, you can have an adapter that provides a higher amp rating then the console needs. But NEVER use an adapter that outputs a different voltage then what the console was designed to use. That's the main thing that can cause problems. That + polarity. but I don't recall if that was different with Nintendo adapters.
The AC input voltage is always the same for all adapters unless you did something crazy and tried to use a European adapter in a US socket. AC voltages are different depending on what country you live in. As long as both your adapters are designed to operate in the same country, it will use the same AC voltage and this you don't have to worry about.
I think he means NES adapters. Those output AC, and the console, internally, converts to DC. So you can't use a NES adapter with the Genesis, but you can use the Gen adapter on the NES (the console would "convert" DC to DC, or ignore it, IDK)
That's american/western NES, Famicoms output DC AFAIK
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That is a strange way to make an adapter. They should have just integrated the entire thing into the console instead of doing something weird like that. :P
I have VGA to Component YuPrPb Transcoder by RCA that also uses an AC to AC adaptor I was quite bewildered by that arrangement as well not sure that I had ever been cognizant that something like that would exist. Why wouldn''t they just make it AC to DC like everyone else lol
No, the NES adapters still output 9vdc from their adapters.
@@Sybridox No they don't, the NES adapter outputs 9v 1.3a AC power, not DC
Good video but honestly for every purpose new cable , now you got whole spaghetti behind console. If possible as a viewer of your channel can you make any video to reduce that clutter. Big thanks
Howdy man, in reality there are modern hand made solutions that people have done. Theres a seller online that a buddy of mine has used to get a custom single adapter that has 2-3 leads depending on what arrangement you have. So if it's a model 1 or 2 Genesis and then if it's a model 1 or 2 SEGA CD that you intend to hook up, and again a 3rd lead can be added for 32X, and based on your power draw needs, in terms of Voltage and Amperage he'll build a custom adapter that'll match your exact arrangements needs, including the right style of connectors you need (Model 1 Genesis power cable is very different in shape than that of the model 2 Genesis [which the 32X and even the model 3 Sega Genesis are able to share their same power supply for the 32X and even Genesis model 3) So using the Genesis as an example you need a Model 1(10V 1.2A) versus Model 2(9 Volt .85A) and so on he'll build a power supply that'll match the exact draw, plus the one you'd need for your matching Sega CD and then the 32X if you intended to use that too, again it can be custom built to the exact specs your personal arrangment is hungry for.
As much as I love what I did in my older videos, I won't deny that many advances have come about in just the last 3-4 years that have made hooking up retro consoles to TVs even easier. ESPECIALLY on the video output front. Modern Component/HDMI solutions have popped up everywhere and are making it easier than ever before to enjoy classics on newer sets.
@@Indead bro I am you already know that I am your channel viewer and fan , that was helpful explanation, may I request a repair on sega cd player the one you demonstrated in the video. Your elaboration on every topic is very good. Thanks always waiting for new content
lol what a mess! =) Watching it in 2020 =/ Great video by the way!
This combination of megadrive, genesis and 32x, together of them, they call "Sega trio".
And by the way i am an italian.
Genesis/mega drive
*Mega drive and sega cd
mega drive 2, with sega cd 1 and 2, with 32x, and boom. you have a ps5.
Where did you get that gold played link cable for the model 1 Genesis to 32x?
I'm sort of glad that I have a Genesis model 2
Which one is the right PSU for the Sega CD Model 2? I've read that Genesis Model 1 would fit but the opposite polarity may fry the system... also on the back says "use the 1602 Genesis AC adaptor only"... fuck... if somebody could help me i'd really appreciate it
..I'm seriously considering going back to my Genny but the whole ten yards.. without re-watching this (I'd even DL'd it how dope a job ye did), can the 32x alone distribute the audio+visual for the rest?
I just got a sega cd m2 along with the power supply and it works just fine. However I looked at the power supply and from what I know it is the same one used for the model 1 genesis. Is this the same one as the actual sega cd power supply? It has the exact model number and it outputs the near same voltage.
So by mixing audio from the headphone jack to CD, i'd loose stereo sound from the same connector. And by the CD's RCA output i could use RCA to 3.5mm adapter to regain that?
I was considering getting RGB scart cable with stereo and those have only 3.5mm for the audio.
the sega mega drive/ genesis looks like its on life support lol
To play mega drive games just use a game genie same with n64 use a gameshark
Awesome video thanks!@
The ac power supply just doesn't work it won't fry...been there done that
Do you need the original sega av cable or can you use a modern replacement av cable for the sega genesis 1
I just bought a Mega CD model 1. It works perfectly but for some reason the status lights on the front are White instead of green and red and also the access light only once in a blue moon lights up? I know it's not suppose to blink constantly but surely it should at some point of loading a CD?
It's not really a big deal but I'd like to fix it, any suggestions?
does that audio problem happen when using a model 2 genesis? Edit: No. model 2 does not need the cable.
They need to lower the power for the model 2 Genesis adapter.
Jesus Christ what a goddamn mess! And back in 94 before the internet the asking for help part or going to eBay to buy special cables were not possible.
In case someone still asks why Sega fucked up the Genesis themselves.
Someone made some magic cable for you alone ? How does that help anyone?
Hey. Just wondering. How does one set up the SEGA CD without a sound system? I'm new to the SEGA CD and need to know how to get sound using just a TV
Super Sonic They’re standard RCA cables, so all you’d have to do is just plug them into the TV instead of a sound system.
I just got an 32x with no cables whatsoever. I m using a model 2 mega drive A-C adapter on the 32x mega drive (i heard that should work because its the same) but i don t have the cross-over cable. However up to this point i don t know if the 32x even works. If i hook it up with A-C adapter and i do the exact same thing as you in the video minus the cross-over cable......would i be able to play a mega drive game on it via the 32x? For now its giving me a black screen. Since the 32x hasn t a red light or something its impossible to see if the thing works. Can you verrify for me?
Goriszoon you can tell if it works (at least partially) by putting the 32x in the genesis by itself, and putting a sega genesis game in the top. If it loads the game alright, it should be okay, unless the 32x unit's output/input ports don't work, but like you said, you don't have any way to test that right now
17:20 - Christ almighty, what a mess.
You didn’t use the grounding plates for the 32X. Isn’t the Genesis supposed to mount to the Sega CD with some kind of plate? The Sega CD model 2 definitely does.
FYI: That’s the kind stuff someone might be looking for in an “in depth” video on the subject. ;)
I bought mine sometime last year (2018) from a trusted seller on eBay , luckily mine came with one it’s called an “RF shield” so yes it’s better to have the plate
After 26 years , I'll be able to enjoy the stereo sound on m'y big system 🤣🤣
where can I find red and white sega cd cables?
Lol 8 years later... 20$ for a power base i would love that. I came trying to figure out how sega cd 32x games work
What's the receiver you had at the time
where do I get that exact power supply for the CD gen2?
I still have my original genesis model 2 system from when I was a kid still works great. I hope to get a sega cd for it soon. I am using a scart cable for my genesis and a scart to hdmi converter box picture looks very good.
Hot damn, keep it up my man, i'd love to have that option right now rather than relying on the 32X's Composite out
+Indead's Game Room What's even cool is that the converter box has a headphone jack so I can plug in headphones since my genesis model 2 has no audio jack.
also is there any difference between using the model 1 or 2 genesis?
i have a genesis but no cd or way to give it power or connect it to the tv just got it from my uncle but when i get all the parts im doing this thx btw
Amazing video. well done.