What does the Nord Stream pipeline gas leak mean for the environment? | DW News
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- Major leaks on the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines releasing huge amounts of gas into the surrounding Baltic Sea and atmosphere were reported on Monday.
Images show the surface of the sea broiling as gas erupted from pipelines 80-110 meters (265-360 feet) below sea level. The long-term impact of the explosion is hard to quantify.
ʺAccording to our current knowledge, the leaks in the Nord Stream pipeline do not pose any serious threat to the marine environment of the Baltic Sea,ʺ a spokesperson for Germany's Environment Ministry told DW.
Experts say the long-term climate impact of the emissions will be substantial.
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What I find interesting is most media don’t even talk about this anymore
Read the comments on every video about it and you'll see why. *Everyone* knows who did this and why, so the narrative has imploded. Not to worry though, the perpetrators will go right ahead with their war, despite everyone knowing its a lie.
Yes it is quite suspicious. The few videos where the media blames Putin are all ratioed as they don’t even give a logical motive. If they really thought Putin did it they would be blasting that on every news channel 24/7.
They only have so much air time. They can't talk about everything. The pipeline leak won't matter if Putler actually nukes Europe.
Tells you who did it
All under the US thumb. A survey revealed 88% said Yes, to the US involvement.
It means a lot of money will go from Europe to the USA
Nobody can demand gas from these pipelines anymore.
Long-term supply contracts are secured.
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage not true, other wise US media wouldn't be cry how Europe might fold under pressure to turn on Russian gas in winter, brainwashed bot brain gymnastics so hard they fight their own narrative lo
I feel like there will be a minie industrialization in the US....
WW2 al over again
Extra social credit spending for your observation
i love how Europe is acting like they don't know who did it 🤣🤣
Feb 7th, 2022. “If Russia invades Ukraine, there will be no Nordstream 2.”
When pressed further: “I promise you we can do this.”
Joe Biden.
@@oleggorky906 The Gordian Knot has been cut ...
@@ciprianvirjan It might well have been.
Alexander the Great did it with a sword. Unfortunately, Russia and the US each have a vast nuclear arsenal. I’m worried for my children; in fact not just mine, I’m worried for all the children.
What sort of a life are they going to have out there, if any at all the way that things are going?
@@oleggorky906 Kremlin is not worried about it ...
Their only care is their ego & money in the pocket ...
People are disposable for them ... always it was like this
@@ciprianvirjan I don’t support either side. The poor people can only lose whichever way here.
What I don’t like is what the original poster said; the fact that Europe is acting like it doesn’t know who did it. This is lunacy.
I don't understand: are there no intermediate safety valves along the pipeline? It's hard to believe that this type of incident was not considered when the pipeline was designed.
It was considered extremely unlikely. So no countermeasures were taken to avoid it.
perhaps the stakeholders wishfully assumed that the pipelines will be operating seamlessly for ages. This kind of events were bloody predictable, especially while forming a company with oppressive regime ruled by kgbists.
Each valve introduces a potential leak point. Under normal circumstances, where intentional damage is not a factor, adding just one valve will make the risk greater than the risk of a leak due to a natural occurrence.
the whole thing is under water, and the pipe is over 1 meter in diameter. you could crawl in it. where could you possibly put such a valve?
@@DrBernon At the beginning and the end.
I miss the good old days (think Exxon Valdez in Alaska) when pipelines rupturing and ruining the environment was the result of corporate incompetence rather than ACTS OF WAR BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS.
the thing is russia think they are still in the ''good'' old days (not majority of the people im talking about the goverment and people that support it in a way thats is not forced onto them)
Bridges, roads, buildings, and other pieces of infrastrucure are often sabotaged during wars. What's so surprising about Putler destroying a pipeline? He's already attacked nuclear power stations and threatened to use nuclear bombs. Why should he care about the environment? He doesn't even care about Russian lives.
What ruination do you speak 🤔 it's called natural gas it's like coal there's not much of a lasting effect the oceans are full of natural gas as well
yeah right
It’s still not sure who did it. Maybe it is just people who are tired of their governments doing nothing to stop the climate emergency
Humans...a dead-end species. Imagine how a truley intelligent being would see us.
To quote Monty Python:
"I hope there's intelligent life somewhere out in space because there's bugger all down here on earth."
Truly... 😉 G
Agreed
I agree, finding a alien life doesn't scare me as much as finding more humans on another planet.
Aliens were already looking for intelligent life here on earth. They came and said "oops we made a mistake" and left.😂😂
Even while under the threat of total nuclear annihilation, as a 26 year old man, I’m afraid I still couldn’t help but chuckle when I read “Unprecedented methane leak”….
Looking more and more like the need to cut cattle numbers was so the nato could damage the climate
You're too old for this, my good sir.
Cmon man...
You might as well laugh because when the nukes drop none us will be laughing.
I hear you. I chuckle too. Don't listen to these downers. Have a laugh and enjoy the day.
The more important questions are actually:
1) Why wasn't the gas ignited to lessen the environmental damage by turning it into CO2?
2) Why didn't the gas self-ignite, as seen in similar events?
3) How could a helicopter safely fly above a huge bubble of highly inflammable gas?
I actually assume that there was not much flammable gas in those bubbles, and most of the gas was nitrogen. Otherwise somebody would have to give good answers to the questions.
1) It's an unexpected and quickly unfolding event, it's not like the Danish government does things like that on a whim.
2) Methane does not self ignite. You are just unaware of what ignited the methane in these other events.
3) Gasses diffuse very quickly.
Ofcourse it is methane. That's what the pipeline was built for. The Germans want methane, the Russians want money. Pumping worthless nitrogen through those pipelines is of no use to anybody.
It's about time someone talks about this!
Polish foreign minister has thanked the Us for this
Russians damaged their own pipelines, but do not harm other ones.
@@stranger6797 GRU Major from russia 1 month ago promised in an televised interview said that they gonna launch a "surprise" attack to europe's economy sector , so there you go.
You know who did it. Hence the news is about environmental damage ONLY!!!
@@machismo4256 So far we don't have any proof...
Deliberately destroying civillian infrastructure is a war crime and this is a very serious attack agaisnt many nato members...
Although the head of a nato state threatened to do such a thing and it happened is not proof.
0:48 _"we will have to get to the bottom of this."_
Well, looks like somebody already did! 😁
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Where are the in line shut off valves?
Something don't sound right. Why would Putin do hurt his own equipments and waste all this gas. When Russia could just cut the gas off.
Because it wasnt russia. That just makes no sense
@@davidnoelfranks1124 xDDDDDD
because Russia has long term contracts and if they will cut off gas they will need to pay billions dollars of fines. Single hole in pipe can be repaired if needed, but they will shut off gas supply to Germany during winter without fines now. So "accident" is actually good solution.
US did it
@@denysivanov3364 what about the promise by biden earlier this year?
Madness!!
Also, this thing had an estimated ~48 hour timeframe from rupture to completely empty (because it's shut off since Feb or something) so the gas, at this stage 29/09 is literally already in the the atmosphere and the pipes are probably filled with seawater.
So are you saying ... this is no longer an issue to the environment . Good back to political and and law suites .. Seems EU/NATO was responsible for security ... The courts don't care if US Navy did job ... The creditors will be paid ... Russia's half of pipe was western financed ..
Have you ever seen Bankers with Pitch forks ...ROFL ...1953 come to mind :-))
@@---fq2kd What a load of hogwash.
@@easymoney8535 not for dumb people)
@moosesnWoop123 Your idea of abundant leaks from a pipeline deserves the Nobel Price for non technical blabber.
Where is Gretta?
Now I don't feel so bad about 10 years of burying the trash out in the yard
Truth will always come out. Everyone has a price and nothing can remain a secret forever.
Yes the truth has an odd way of coming out...75 years later...
Biden is a honest man who keeps the promise
you forgot to add /sarc to your comment
Set it alight and turn it into a tourist attraction
I was just about to say that in a comment. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
how does one quantify an immeasurable affect?
sea water in a pipeline *is* quantifiable eh?
the pollution created by building the pipeline isesily quantifiable. time for reliables to take over international markets and short change the international energy elite.
with really big words
very simple.. just read some Infinite Sets and Cardinality. Not so hard to understand math theory.
Every year the world population grows by 65 million people, that emission is 12 times higher than the whole of Denmarks emission
65 million is equal to the whole of UK population and its added every 12 month. So shut 5he F up and get your focus straight
I agree.... every problem in the world comes down to overpopulation
The average Dane, emits as much as 17 Indians.
If every country had the same emission as Denmark, the world would be in ruins.
Watch 10 Billion if you haven't seen it, very informative.
Stop making babies 🤱.... 😂
I'm just waiting for Russian passports to be floating in the bubbles . It's definitely CIA 🤣
Thanks to an open threat issued by our senile pres, we know the United States is behind the two explosions that caused a massive natural gas leak into the Baltic Sea? The incident has cut off Russia’s ability to deliver methane gas to Germany and other European nations. This brain dead man is pushing into WW III, so we don't need to worry about the damage to the environment from billions of cubic feet of natural gas. Did Hunter and Ashley convince their dad to blow up the 2 huge pipelines, who knows?
The release of methane into the water and atmosphere is killing marine life and delivering a greenhouse gas pollutant into the atmosphere that would be gravely feared by believers in man-made global warming. The word “eco-terrorism” comes to mind the describe this insane act of sabotage!!
The very specific threat that President Biden issued against Nordstream last February 7:
The pres that the fools in the USA elected: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?" Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that." But, thank God the orange man isn't our pres!!
I read a lot on documents on cia online reeding room.
And you are right! This sabotage screams C.I.A. op so loud!
yankees & ukrainians did it
@@RoadstersRegistry sadly, ukrainians couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag without the americans
Radek Sirkoski has already retweeted that evidence on his twitter account 🤣🤣🤣
Why can’t they plug at the ends? Or suck out gas from one end.
That long paused "thank you" at the end tho XD.
It is funny. But is common for them to have a 3 second delay hearing each other. There was an interview gone wrong cause they had a longer delay and it was a mess.
“Unprecedented methane leak” funny thats what my wife says about me.
Aren't these concrete encased steel pipes going to have sea water inside them once the escaping gas pressure decreases? without proper internal coating, they will start oxidizing and eroding quickly causing them to have serious structural integrity issues with any future usage plans...
What I heard they are not planning to repair them, exactly because of what you said. They are dead bodies in the sea now.
The pipe has an internal epoxy coating that could provide some protection from corrosion.
@@bipl8989 I would have thought so. But due to many news reports I read and heard that they're doomed to corrode pretty fast.
@D R What about salt and maybe the sand acting as an abrasive?
@@InTheSh8 News reporters seldom get their technicalal details correct.
Dave knew that Steve pushed Brian down some steps! 😱
Lol, the sad thing is, Dave have to say Brian fell.
@@tonyatgoogle6076 Not really, dave said brian dived down the steps on purpose.
September 4th 2022, German businessman, Karl Peter Griesemann’s private jet crashed into the Baltic Sea off the coast of Latvia, having flown halfway across Europe from Spain whilst unresponsive to ATC calls, killing all on board.
Flight tracking data showed that the Austrian registered Cessna 551 departed from southern Spain on Sunday afternoon, changed course at Paris and Cologne and then flew straight out to the Baltic Sea, before descending rapidly.
The Griesemann Group was responsible for the maintenance of the Nordstream gas lines.
Ah, now I got the whole reason behind it, good interview.
You know who did it. Hence the news is about environmental damage ONLY!!!
@@machismo4256 It's not important what I know but got it now.
Is it better to leave it or light it up; from a greenhaus perspective?
Light it up, methanes green house effect is exponential, it's why you see oil wells with a flame tower.
Light it up. CH4 is the worst GHG (But short lived and turns into CO2). Burning it just turns it directly to CO2.
P.S. That does also add a direct energy conversion to heat in the biosphere, but all energy ultimately turns in to heat potential at some stage.
Methane is nearly 30 times more potent than carbon dioxide and while it accounts for 11% of greenhouse gas emissions, it lasts 12 years in the air and traps 80-84 times more heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide does. After those 12 years it breaks down into CO2 and water.
Scientists estimate that at least 25% of today’s warming is driven by methane from human actions.
This is why we ordinarily burn methane down into CO2 and water, as keeping methane emissions around is much more harmful. To put that in perspective: burning natural gasses (predominantly methane) produces less CO2 than burning coal does at equal energy generation levels.
@@21N13 "Scientists estimate that at least 25% of today’s warming is driven by methane from human actions."
I am very skeptical about those figures. I doubt that we even come close to the natural methane emissions across the planet.
The amount of additional CO2 in the atmosphere is not all that significant, a little elevated, but they still haven proven why to this day.
7 barg pressure difference, 8b if you pull a full vacuum, isn't going to move much gas remaining in the pipeline to Germany.
a few minutes...
Umm , isn’t there a big inline gate valve ? Turn the damn thing off
The pipeline flow was already stopped when the pipes were damaged.
What you see it the leftover methane within the pipes escaping to the atmosphere.
there are valves at both ends of the pipeline, but all the gas in between those ends escaped.
The country that reaped huge profits from LNG sales to EU and doesn't want to see EU money for Russian gas financing the war in Ukraine, is the Prime suspect.
That's 100 million cow farts.
Not so long ago, the American prairie was filled with herds of bison that took days to pass. Funny how their farts didn't cause global warming. Just about every mammals farts, including humans.
Set light to it
just over 31 million gallons of it - 750 miles long 48 inch diameter
Ask the Chinese to bring their fancy ship that maps the ocean floor and has mini subs to come and investigate.
I assume the supply can be shut off and that only the residual gas in the pipeline would be released into the environment. The gulf of Mexico oil release was far worse for the environment; the gulf has and never will recover; the oil wasn't removed, just sunk to the bottom of the gulf.
The Supply was already shut off, it's just residual Gas escaping
it's gas so it is bubbling to the top and releasing as we speak. you can turn off the heat, but try not boiling anymore water afterwords
@@Genius_at_Work Yeah. Although methane is a potent greenhouse gas, I don't think the release was nearly as bad as the 210 million gallons of crude released in the gulf of mexico.
@@adamf663 That would be comparing Apples to Oranges anyway
Its not residual, NS 1 still flowing, you could spot the difference with NS2. The germans still buying. US and EU dont like it. Now germans can only buy from US and EU country.
They should light them on fire. It would be beautiful and a great way to flare off the product.
Figuring it out yet?
I love George Orwell books!
At least we have Never been at war with Eurasia...at least not yet, not officially.
Maybe someone should explain to our so-called leaders that 1984 - George Orwell Wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual.
@@paulblichmann2791 Looks like the new cold war is the 'world community' against China-Russia-Iran-India... Orwell was a genious.
Haha, Inspector Clouseau will be right on the case to figure out who could have done this!
😅😅😅😅perfect choice to inspect😂😂😂😃
Might be a shutdown (or partial shutdown) procedure for the pipings was not done during the stoppage that resulted to this failure. Both sides of the pipe is subjected to pressure, by the sea and the medium inside the pipe.
@ Murphy Malis. What stoppage?? Nord Stream 2 was never in service so there was no shutdown. Flow through Nord Stream 1 had been gradually reduced because of the sanctions and no shutdown had been taking place.
on previous news they said that the pipes were filled with "test gas". as in they were doing maintanance, checking if it works properly
@@momosaku16 The amount of test gas to fill such a long pipe is huge and the cost is enormous. Moreover once the test is finished it would cost a fortune re bottling it while letting it loose into the atmosphere is a no, no. This is why the pipe is kept full of the gas to be sold later on.
People of German knows very well who have done this nasty work but bad politician of Europe not express this.
Dumb question: Russia said they would cut off gas supplies to Europe and they have actually shut off the flow recently to do maintenance. So, if they can shut off the gas, why don’t they shut off the gas? Or, is what’s escaping what was sitting in the line? If so it will eventually run out. There must be a big valve somewhere turn it clockwise!
big fines for breaching long time contract. Now they can play "accident" card and not pay fine.
@@denysivanov3364 Americans blew it up lol
Its obvious, Russia found a way to shut off the supply without it appearing to be their fault..Peskov lies..Russia is destroying itself.
@@denysivanov3364 As if Gazprom/the Russian state would give a damn about a fine. How would countries make them pay up? It was clearly the Americans that did it. They have means and motive.
@@maxcream6726 Its not ...The Russian also have access via both submarine, surface vessels, and internally, through the pipe itself.
Germans and freezing to death, named more iconic duo 💀
seems like they should light it up. Flaring it off is not ideal, but its better to have the co2 emitted than the methane. In addition hopefully they bleed the lines sooner than later.
That was my first thought. Also, it would be very spectacular!!
That my first though as well
Uh….wasn’t the valve shut off weeks ago?
there was still 100bar of pressure in the line, even with valves shut. No flow, but pressured gas.
Open the pipes at the receiving end and gather what comes out. Free gas 😎
america keeping their promise "to stop the gas flow by any means necessary"
Promises made .... promises kept, I guess ... ?
If the pipelines are turned off what exactly is leaking?
They keep the pipe pressurized so water doesn't get into the pipe.
Would my gas stove now sprue out sea water?
yes, and shellfish
Assign the blame first, then do something about it.
Evil! 😢
When is DW going to address the Seymour Hersh report on the destruction of Nordstream? 🤔
The stored gas in the storage is leaking back into the ocean. There is no valve to shut it off..
Although this is an important issue, the slightly bigger issue is what will happen when the pipeline fills with seawater and corrodes. So far, literally nothing is being done to stop this, and when it does, it will mean that the pipeline will increasingly become unusable entirely. Not only do you have to get all that water out, but you can no longer trust the pipe itself. Odds are good that, given the way things are going, both pipelines will be permanently lost.
That sort of changes the calculus a bit, since the option to return to Russian gas will be completely off the table unless, ironically, they send it through Ukraine.
Given the amount of downtime due maintenance required during the past couple of months, I think it's safe to assume that those pipelines were already in terrible conditions...
It depends on whether the inside of the pipes were lined (eg with a thin film of plastic). The real reason for not repairing it is that the US can blow it up again.
unless the pressue of the gas been pumped out is greater than that of the preasure of the sea flowing in (if a full collapse occured) then logically speaking it could plug itself no? i dont know how deep the pipeline is so i cant speculate on the pressure applied by the weght of the sea, but you see my point? in argument to my own point why isnt the pressure of the sea allready enough to force the gasr flow back on itself.
What is wrong with you?
a second option would be to switch off the flow of gas, this can be done.
For the environment??
What about the working class German??
what about them?
They can freeze. Small price to pay for ecological utopia.
@Alessandra Goldman isn't your argument ridiculous? Nobody works in Europe anymore ??
Basicly the same thing as a lot of cows farting at the same time.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Russia loosing men,economy, trust
Ukraine loosing men, motherland, economy Europe living without gas in winter,High inflation, job loss, threat of economic recession although they raining money on Ukraine for weapon purchase
UN,Asian, African and Latin American countries are mute spectators like European countries when they are in crisis
Uncle Sam selling weapons, gas, oil and making money, destroying his adversary Russia by putting weapon on Ukraine's shoulder making Ukraine European afganistan for Russia
Uncle Sam - This is business man; pure business
Judging from the comments I think we are all in agreement. Drops some flares into leak zones and "Light em up baby!".
Would the methane be less destructive if it was burnt off? Would that even be possible?
40 years ago it was all cow farts in Wisconson. Good reminder to empty my pool pipe lines before it freezes.
It happened in Baltic an area totally controlled by NATO and the US and a child cannot accept Russia did it that it's own property and a means of its revenue.
It could be there were already installations done to the pipelines at a much earlier stage, to be engaged "when needed".
Look also at the locations of these "leaks". Strategically logical to make them unsuitable for other uses than transporting gas from Russia.
reminds me of when russia shot down a passenger plane in 2014, 298 people dead and they tried to blame it on ukraine but the truth always comes out in the end....
Какая же правда вылезла?
Why don't they torch it?
Not much.
Everyone will feel the repercussions of this.
Usually, when they are so mum on the response, it's because they know it's one of their own. Happens all the time, if it were Russia, it would have been PLASTERED all over all the time that it was. Of course they know, they literally have the best equipment and stuff to KNOW.
Ah Ha !!!
Your onto something there I believe.
Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Get an education.
4:44 Listen to what he said. They did it on purpose. To push for the Green agenda. They did it to hurt Putin ever more.
Yeah sure just Ike the flying turrents lol
@@celiaowen2444 I must concur. this person is just making their own assumptions, reinforcing their own already existing bias. it's appropriate to suspend judgement until we know the facts; best not to make uneducated guesses.
"Unprecedented methane leak" is what happens when I have taco bell.
hmm… wonder who is behind these explosions? Who could it be? We need to investigate!’ 😂
The much bigger concern is that with the pipelines open, they can also pump oil into the sea, or radioactive waste, and make the whole area a disaster zone for decades. That will be the environmental nightmare, not the methane.
ohh no 😔 can this actually happen? I thought only gas goes trough those pipelines..
Only if you believe the narrative that the Russians are sub human monsters. The biggest threat to your prosperity and health comes from Uncle Sam...You need to rethink who the bad guys are.
Looks like Russia doesn't have to worry about any failure to delivery lawsuits.
@AQuietNight It is called "force majeure" in contract language but that had already happened because of failed turbines driving the gas compressors. Actually several turbines were sent back for repair and never returned because of sanctions.
use your brain and try not to be a tool, logic is your friend
@@gumby2241 use your brain, logic is your friend.
How much methane has escaped from the broken pipes.
How much methane does a cow send in the air through its rear end.
So how many cows represent the leak.
The greens want to combat air pollution and methane is a highly polluting gas.
Therefore how many cows should be slaughtered to compensate for the pipeline sabotage??
If you went through some kind od school do he calculation. All data available on line.
How about we start fixing it first, the environment is kid of important...
It's better to just discuss it untill everyone forgets about it..
Why not just set fire to the leak and burn off the gas till the pipes are blocked / fixed.
They blow airliners with people from the sky , they would never blow up a gas pipe.
I was worried for the environment until it said eventually the leak could be the "equivalent of 1/3 of Denmark's annual emission"
That's less than US's DAILY emission and half of China's daily emission.
It's still a lot of methane, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't make much difference in terms of global warming.
It is quite a lot of "cow equivalents"
Light a match 🔥
I thought Russia cut off the valve flow before this happened
it did, there was no flow, but the lines were still under pressure, about 100bar, that´s what is escaping now, like a punctured bicycle tire.
Who profits on that...the US as always!
How does the US profit when 95% of its oil & gas is actually used in the country? The US doesn't, won't, & can't profit from this.
@@gabrieljean-batiste2006 I will put it simple, every time US enemy, and World globaly, suffers US profits...and when I say US I mean a handful of extremely rich persons in weapon, bank and oil sector thar rules the whole World.
@@DM_Laf The amount of resources and coordination required to pull this off by the US would be impossible to conceal. Meanwhile Russia would benefit by being able to cancel gas contracts that were in danger of default while delivering a subtle threat of the vulnerability of EU infrastructure. They have bots used for pipeline maintenance that can easily be deployed with explosives. It will be interesting to see pictures of the blast site as that will indicate if it was an internal or external rupture.
If the Russians did this why did the Polish Foreign minister tweet a photo of the leak with text saying 'Thank You USA'?
oh and congrats to Poland and Norway for opening their new gas pipeline...on the same day...
@DennisEstrada Russia has cruel capitalism.
That's true, when Poland and Norway inaugurated Baltic pipeline, they destroyed Nord stream and we have an evidence that Poland alongside US opposed implementing Nord stream 2, and Poland is Rusophobic country
Fishery industry supply to Europe will be disrupted substantially
Mr . Muller thanks of your concern and information.
Would be interesting to see how this enormous (40 000 tonn!)?
will affect the weather in this area.
That's not how greenhouse gases work. The impact is not local
yeah nevermind atmospheric circulation
Funniest thing I heard all day. I hope the NGO freezes first
Thanks to an open threat issued by our senile pres, we know the United States is behind the two explosions that caused a massive natural gas leak into the Baltic Sea? The incident has cut off Russia’s ability to deliver methane gas to Germany and other European nations. This brain dead man is pushing into WW III, so we don't need to worry about the damage to the environment from billions of cubic feet of natural gas. Did Hunter and Ashley convince their dad to blow up the 2 huge pipelines, who knows?
The release of methane into the water and atmosphere is killing marine life and delivering a greenhouse gas pollutant into the atmosphere that would be gravely feared by believers in man-made global warming. The word “eco-terrorism” comes to mind the describe this insane act of sabotage!!
The very specific threat that President Biden issued against Nordstream last February 7:
The pres that the fools in the USA elected: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?" Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that." But, thank God the orange man isn't our pres!!
Nah biggest methane release on record was me after a vindaloo yesterday
C'mon you know who it is... just BLAME this LIAR..
Easy way to do it, send a maintenance robot with some HE down the pipeline. So , who has the maintenance robots?
russia also is well known for having undersea UAVs deployable from submarines that are designed for sabotaging seabed infrastructure such as internet and electricity cables.
it's 70m underwater, easily accessible by divers. USA had several boats in the area + helicopters literally over the spots where this happened. OSINT data shows this.
In any case, Russia just built the line, very expensive and usable, just turned off. Now it's 100% offline.
If you were Russia,, would you do it? We need to use our brain. Otherwise,we become a lower species.
in 2015, the swedish coast guard found and eliminated already one underwater drone with explosives right next to the pipeline. So I expect the finding will be that the lines were exploded from the outside.
that's like saying I'll shoot myself so I can collect my life insurance, doesn't make a lick of sense.
Russias way off avoiding large lawsuits for closing the pipes. Force majeure
Also upping the threat to UK, Poland, Spain, and everyone else on the receiving end of one of these lines. Nobody took the nuclear threats seriously but everyone in Europe will notice this.
Absurd, nonsense
lawsuits from who? How would they navigate sanctions? LOL
You know its Russia because they havent threatened anyone. If it wasnt Russia accusations and threats would be their number 1 priority.
Idk why people think Russia will blow up there own pipeline that it build billions of dollars to construct . Only USA can do this
Environmental issues, what complete and utter bollocks. If this situation keeps developing there will be more than a few gas leaks to worry about.
Best thing to do is to put a flame to it. Best for the environment.
Agreed
This is one of those short term/ long term issues amongst nations. The rupturing of that pipe will cause hardship in Europe but it will also cause them to seek alternatives that they will lock in over the longer term. It was the same with COVID. It caused countries to promote internal production because shipping from China was unstable even though most indicators said it started there. China and Russia are in some trouble here. The world order is likely to be Europe/USA by 2025. I don't see a way for China and Russia to redirect industry back to themselves in the near future.
As it should.
The amount of money and scale of industry in Asia is insane, probably beating Europe. This war is not doing much good for Europe unfortunately. Peace would.
China will be fine. It's a giant. Russia... not so much.
@@electricpaper269 copium? Will 3rd world country ruzzia become the superpower of the whole world with army of alcoholics, prisoners and drug addicts in your opinion? 😂
Eurasia was the economic and political centre of power for most of human history. It is really only in the last 150 years that the Royal Navy, and subsequently to a greater extent American Navy were able to contain them with their fleet and network of bases around the world. This made global specialization possible, and overseas trade safe, entrenching the pound then dollar as the centre of the global economy. Now, as Eurasia develops trade links, expands resource extraction and integrates the markets of India, Russia and China, (and likely Africa), there is good reason to believe it will be the centre of the next global imperial power. North America will be isolated, South America forgotten, and Europe will be a declining civilization on the periphery.
it was America
You sheep it was clearly north korea
Kraemer’s understanding of gas pipelines is weak.
we just gonna leave it leaking like that?
It's literally under the sea. That's not just like putting a bandaid and calling it a day. Plus this infrastructure is owned by Russia who is being barred from investigating it as the area where the pipeline exploded is NATO controlled waters. So yes they'll just leave it leaking.
To be honest, the statement “security increase and military deployment around strategic oil & gaz infrastructures followings the incident, etc” well…… it’s about time !!
We are just so naive in Europe.
We all know what GRU & FSB are capable of, but we all always think good will and rational thinking will lead our opponents to solve issues in the most pacific and legal way as possible, just like we would like to.
cmon… 😔
It’s about time to take preventive mesures, yeah. Good idea indeed, that should have been the case since at least June of this year, if not sooner.
But well, mistakes were made 😒
Need to deal with it now…
Protect them from the US ? There is zero evidence to suggest that Russia was anything but a conscientious trading partner - Europe's prosperity was predicated on that assumption...
@@cumbriatreesurgeons8943 🤦🏻
Gulf of Tonkin 2.0
Are we now eating fish contaminated with gas?
Why don’t the flare the gas leak