yep - Merle may have simply held them all, including Shane at gunpoint while robbing them (as he and Daryl had discussed before Rick showed up) - and the brothers just leave after?
Morgan never gets the guns from Rick. He doesn't try to shoot walker Jenny, but Dwayne gets bit by his mother anyway. A more poorly armed crazy Morgan doesn't make it as long on his own. And even if he does, he never meets Eastman or joins the rest of the group. Rick's gunshots are what initially attracted the walkers to the department store where Glenn's go-to-town group were holed up. Minus Rick, the group wouldn't have attempted the guts trick. Without the walkers upon them, they wouldn't have needed Glenn to take the Dodge Challenger with its alarm blaring to distract them and allow the rest of the group to escape. Without this alarm, the walkers wouldn't have overrun the campsite outside Atlanta, and many deaths would have initially been prevented. Merle doesn't get handcuffed to the roof, but he probably kills T-Dog. Merle and Daryl rob the group and disappear on their own. There may have been casualties in the assault. The evacuation of the Atlanta camp would have been postponed to after the CDC had been destroyed. No one in the group would have learned that everyone turns until later on. Sofia still gets lost, but without Rick and Daryl, no one wants to stick around to look for her, except maybe Ed, whose recklessness gets him killed. Carol, now alone and distraught commits suicide. Sofia's whereabouts remain unknown. The group may still have headed towards Fort Benning, but because the timeline has changed somewhat, Carl doesn't get shot. Which means they never go to the farm. No Herschel, no Maggie, no Beth, etc. Glenn stays single and continues his role as walker-bait. Otis lives. But the Greene farm eventually falls as a result of either walkers or marauders, maybe Dave, Tony, and Randall's group. Now that they're ahead of schedule, having not stopped at the Greene farm, there's a possibility the group comes across Woodbury earlier on, and joins them. Shane likely becomes a lieutenant for the Governor alongside Martinez. Andrea still hooks up with the Governor, happier since Amy is still alive. Michonne probably keeps walking with her pets beyond Woodbury's reach and continues to be a lone wolf. It's difficult to determine how long Woodbury continues without the war with the prison. But, based on their boldness to even go after military targets for loot, they would probably come across the CRM at some point who'd put an end to them. And with them go the rest of our survivors. Without Tyrese and Sasha providing intel about the prison to the Governor, they're not as easily permitted to leave Woodbury. The pair eventually become suspicious about the Governor behind the scenes, and he has them eliminated in a biter pit. Abraham and Rosita continue protecting Eugene as they make their way towards DC. Eventually it comes out that Eugene lied about knowing how to cure it, and Abraham kills Eugene. Abraham and Rosita come across the Saviors, with Abraham becoming one of Negan's lieutenants and Rosita becoming either a wife to Negan or a lieutenant as well. Alexandria gets overrun by the walker herd from the quarry, leaving no survivors, save for Aaron and Eric, who were out scouting for other survivors, eventually find their way to either the Kingdom or Hilltop. Or they're found and killed by Saviors. Gregory's weak leadership at Hilltop continues, coupled with his inability to keep them safe, causing their people suffer as a result, many eventually fleeing to take their chances on the road. It goes as expected for them. The Wolves find Hilltop in lieu of the now destroyed Alexandria, wiping out the remaining residents. Richard doesn't embolden himself against the Saviors, and eventually the Saviors make themselves known to all the residents of the Kingdom. This causes the residents to lose faith in Ezekiel, and their society collapses with walkers killing most of the inhabitants. Negan blames Jared for the debacle and has Simon put him down. The Saviors, upon losing their tax base in both the Hilltop and the Kingdom, have to scavenge for food on their own, or find other communities to plunder. They come across the Wolves, deducing them to be the reason their Hilltop gravy train ran dry, and slaughter them all, as even Negan sees no resource in them. They are eventually discovered by the Commonwealth, who put an end to their barbaric ways. The CRM continue their plans to destroy Portland, and eventually discover the Commonwealth. There is a time of cooperation as the Commonwealth has a formidable army, but ultimately, the CRM initiates their plan to annihilate them as well, in order to hoard all the resources to themselves.
Very detailed. I think that Jadis et.al would have been left to their own devices. And no one really knew about Oceanside until Tara stumbled upon it… so, they probably would’ve left alone until much later.
If rick does not wake up the group follows shane to a definite demise travelling to or after they enter Ft Benning. It was talked about in Nebraska. Lets take that away and say shane stays near atlanta with the group. I see his erratic behavior in the first few shows (not evident on first watch but on later views) to be a major problem. Rick was able to get away from that bad guy attitude that took hold of him, twice. Shane would have let it fully take over him.
It starts Morgan on a different path... And everything in the group would have been different.... If they didn't leave the quarry at the same point in time Morales wouldn't have met the saviors. If they did leave Shane wanted to try to find a military base. It would have been more likely to meet CRM confiscating goods in the early days...
I think their fates would have been much worse without our hero. Daryl probably wouldn't have become the stand up man that he did, the farm would have eventually gotten overrun and everyone there taken out because they were too naive about the walkers. I loved Shane, but he would have likely killed everyone else but Lori and Carl if it came down to it, maybe even became abusive to Lori and carl if they didn't do as he wanted...and ugh, so many things lol. The only time I was ever pissed at Rick, was when he made carol leave. Amazing character!
Yep, great character. I can see that about kicking out Carol, when she started crying it was really sad. But, if he didn't kick out Carol...they may have all become BBQ!
A better question might have been considering the show is over so everything is known. What if Rick became a zombie and the show still followed him? Having him being one of the evolving zombies and instead helping the horde hunt and overwhelm survivor groups.
If Rick never made it i believe the Shane and the rest of the campers would have died in the long run, must likely Shane would have killed Daryl and Merle because of their antagonistic attitudes and i believe the group would have supported shane with the exception of Dale. The Saviors would have been messing the communities until they kill everyone by taking their resources but if they last that long they would have lost to the whisperers. CRM would have killed more civilians and would establish a New world order in the US😅
With out Rick's appearance in the storyline, the group wouldn't have fared well. - Shane had been leading the group and firmly believed that the army was coming to save them and that they should stay at the quarry.. Without Rick & his bag of guns, most of the group gets wiped out at the quarry by a group of walkers - Merle & Daryl had originally been planning on stealing from the group & taking off. Without Rick, this would have ended up happening. - I expect that a few members would have survived the walker horde and start heading towards Fort Benning, but they would have ended up stranded on the highway by Hershel's farm. Eventually some of the remaining group may have carried on, but ended up at Terminus, where they would have met their demise.
I think Shane would try and shoot whoever got in his way of being leader. He was going to shoot Rick after all. But Dale stopped him.🤔 Then there is the problem whether somebody found out. The truth divide the group. Good video Happy new year.🤔😄🎆
If it wasn’t for Rick Merle would have robbed the camp he stated it in season 3 when they reunite that they planned to rob Shane’s camp so Rick handcuffing Merle actually did good for the group also I think the group would’ve died if they listened to Shane by going to fort Benning
rick doesn't wake up: the group that went to atlanta either doesn't make it back at all or they are few days late camp is still overrun by walkers but would you look at that no rick - no guns - no support more of them die they go to fort benning just like shane wanted merle and daryl either break off or something shane is viewed as the "bad guy" of the group being already in season 1 on that season 7 mentality so they either abandon him or kill him as a group effort entire group perishes governor runs his woodbury asylum prison rots hershel stays on his farm most likely being overrun as he was gonna be if it weren't for rick saviors keep terrorising hilltop and kingdom eventually finding alexandria trash people and wolves get dealt with brutally by negan whisperers wearing walker skin fare no better against negan terrorizing 3 communities oh btw abraham eugene and rosita keep driving their truck and eventually making it to DC truth comes out abraham most likely kills eugene or tells him to run rosita tries to talk sense into him eventually abandoning him oh and michonne maybe makes it to woodbury or maybe terminus and gets eaten no physical reason for her to go to DC terminus yeah they also keep luring and eating people so yeah if it weren't for rick a lot of things would go terribly
I agree with other people in that this would be the kind of Tales episode I'd love to see. My thoughts, they would have found Negan far earlier but would have joined them and then we might've seen something like the Saviours vs the Whisperers... or the Whisperers wouldn't have even bothered to try to fight seeing how powerful the enemy is. They would have met the Commonwealth eventually but the dynamics would be very different (something like an alliance). Eventually an uprising coordinated across both communities with Shane, Negan, and Pamilla dead. Unless Shane redeemed himself but I could see the power going ton his head and be Negan's righthand man. That said, the Merle vs Shane dynamic would've been really interesting to see - would they have just split in the end? I still think that Daryl would have changed but it would have taken far longer, like something went wrong with Merle after they split and he eventually found the original group again. If Merle had killed off Shane, would he still have willingly joined the Saviours? I wonder if they would have ever met Michone? Would they have ever ended up at the prison and come across the Govener? So many way the story could've gone differently. I do think that with Shane being the leader of the group, the whole thing would've been a lot darker. For example, I think that they would have just overtaken the farm and killed Hershel, Maggie...etc. Another great video James, thank you!
That is a dark outlook on the farm. Maybe the rest of group would not have allowed that. I do see Dale being murdered by Shane and made to look like an accident. Good theorizing though and cool stuff to ponder for sure! Thanks!
Easy answer, they all would have died in the first season. If it wasn't for his STACKED plot armor and INFINITE ammo 6 shooter they would ran out of bullets and got munched. I mean, he should not have woken up. He had to have been unattented in that hospital for weeks without water based on Jenner's records on the virus in season 1.
Crazy stuff! Daryl and Meryl wouldn't have latest long with the group. Daryl would never become the Daryl we all know and love. Shane would have stuck with Lori and Carl no doubt. They probably would have all went to the CDC and may not have gotten out alive if it wasn't for Rick's grenade. The story would have ended right then and there possibly! LOL
Shane would have a lot of arguments with Merle because Merle was always yapping and antagonistic😢i think that Shane most likely would have killed Daryl and Merle and would likely be supoorted by the others at the camp😅
Everyone or at least most of the OG group would be dead. Rick is the one that keep them all alive, despite the dangers. Okay, not everyone survives, there were things he couldn't do anything about. Shane would not have been so cool about Dayrl and his bro robbing them. He'd have made a move that would have seen people die, possibly including his unborn daughter and Carl. The remaining members would have turned on Shane. No one would have been given any training as Shane would see that as a threat to himself. Trusting only those he believes can be trusted with any firearm. Whereas Rick gave anyone willing training. Shane would rule with an iron fist, which wouldn't help him much. Where as Rick led by conscent and where he could tool everyone's opinion into account. So at some point Shane would have died and chances are not many of the OG group would have made it out alive to see the events of S2, I'm sure he would have tried to rule Herschel's farm if he could.
If Rick never woke up, Shane and Lori would still be together, Merle and Daryl would have robbed and left the group, the group would have never joined Hershel’s farm so that’d be safe, they would have either ended up at fort Benning or met Woodbury and the governor and resulted in most of the group dying due to Shane’s leadership and who he values in the group like Lori and Carl. They would either die at the prison, on the road to Terminus or at Terminus
Merle and Daryl did not have much to rob. Merle had a rifle and pistol on the roof. Plenty of vehicles. Daryl had a pistol somewhere and a crossbow. They were down to Andrea's black squirrel.
@ Merle and Daryl were planning to rob the camp and leave, they’d have robbed whatever supplies the group had and left, my guess is they would have eventually joined some group like claimers or formed their own group with Merle leading
Everyone things shane would not make it cuz he was crazy for lori but had rick not even come he wouldn't have been that crazy and would have def kept levle headed not gone to the prison so no govenor and negan idk i think he would try to takw him out but idk
Glenn T Dog merle all of them were trapped in the store, they wouldn't have made it back the same time line, they may not have left the quarry if Glen didn't draw the horde with the car horn...
In the comic, Shane did want to stay near the city because he thought the military would save them - and if they went off into the blue yonder the military wouldn't be able to help them.
I think Shane and Merl would probably get along quite a bit better than you may initially think. Shane said something like “the right choice is the one that keeps us alive.” How is that any different than Merle?
And they wouldn't have followed any of the same paths because Shane and Merle whoever led.... We wouldn't have had the farm the prison terminus or Virginia.... If they tried to go north they may have been the CRM
Would Merle and group have escaped Atlanta? I think Merle knew the building was surrounded and was shooting the rifle as a signal to others. If three shots it would have been a signal for help. ( Actually it was Glenn who got the quarry overrun because he was playing with a stolen car. Why did he not stop for the moving van and shut off the alarm.
It would’ve been Daryl & Merle vs. Shane & the camp
yep - Merle may have simply held them all, including Shane at gunpoint while robbing them (as he and Daryl had discussed before Rick showed up) - and the brothers just leave after?
@@TWDExplained Merle & Daryl would have grabbed (what they wanted) and snuck off at night. They wouldn't have needed a confrontation.
Morgan never gets the guns from Rick. He doesn't try to shoot walker Jenny, but Dwayne gets bit by his mother anyway. A more poorly armed crazy Morgan doesn't make it as long on his own. And even if he does, he never meets Eastman or joins the rest of the group.
Rick's gunshots are what initially attracted the walkers to the department store where Glenn's go-to-town group were holed up. Minus Rick, the group wouldn't have attempted the guts trick. Without the walkers upon them, they wouldn't have needed Glenn to take the Dodge Challenger with its alarm blaring to distract them and allow the rest of the group to escape. Without this alarm, the walkers wouldn't have overrun the campsite outside Atlanta, and many deaths would have initially been prevented. Merle doesn't get handcuffed to the roof, but he probably kills T-Dog. Merle and Daryl rob the group and disappear on their own. There may have been casualties in the assault.
The evacuation of the Atlanta camp would have been postponed to after the CDC had been destroyed. No one in the group would have learned that everyone turns until later on. Sofia still gets lost, but without Rick and Daryl, no one wants to stick around to look for her, except maybe Ed, whose recklessness gets him killed. Carol, now alone and distraught commits suicide. Sofia's whereabouts remain unknown.
The group may still have headed towards Fort Benning, but because the timeline has changed somewhat, Carl doesn't get shot. Which means they never go to the farm. No Herschel, no Maggie, no Beth, etc. Glenn stays single and continues his role as walker-bait. Otis lives. But the Greene farm eventually falls as a result of either walkers or marauders, maybe Dave, Tony, and Randall's group.
Now that they're ahead of schedule, having not stopped at the Greene farm, there's a possibility the group comes across Woodbury earlier on, and joins them. Shane likely becomes a lieutenant for the Governor alongside Martinez. Andrea still hooks up with the Governor, happier since Amy is still alive. Michonne probably keeps walking with her pets beyond Woodbury's reach and continues to be a lone wolf.
It's difficult to determine how long Woodbury continues without the war with the prison. But, based on their boldness to even go after military targets for loot, they would probably come across the CRM at some point who'd put an end to them. And with them go the rest of our survivors.
Without Tyrese and Sasha providing intel about the prison to the Governor, they're not as easily permitted to leave Woodbury. The pair eventually become suspicious about the Governor behind the scenes, and he has them eliminated in a biter pit.
Abraham and Rosita continue protecting Eugene as they make their way towards DC. Eventually it comes out that Eugene lied about knowing how to cure it, and Abraham kills Eugene. Abraham and Rosita come across the Saviors, with Abraham becoming one of Negan's lieutenants and Rosita becoming either a wife to Negan or a lieutenant as well.
Alexandria gets overrun by the walker herd from the quarry, leaving no survivors, save for Aaron and Eric, who were out scouting for other survivors, eventually find their way to either the Kingdom or Hilltop. Or they're found and killed by Saviors.
Gregory's weak leadership at Hilltop continues, coupled with his inability to keep them safe, causing their people suffer as a result, many eventually fleeing to take their chances on the road. It goes as expected for them. The Wolves find Hilltop in lieu of the now destroyed Alexandria, wiping out the remaining residents.
Richard doesn't embolden himself against the Saviors, and eventually the Saviors make themselves known to all the residents of the Kingdom. This causes the residents to lose faith in Ezekiel, and their society collapses with walkers killing most of the inhabitants. Negan blames Jared for the debacle and has Simon put him down.
The Saviors, upon losing their tax base in both the Hilltop and the Kingdom, have to scavenge for food on their own, or find other communities to plunder. They come across the Wolves, deducing them to be the reason their Hilltop gravy train ran dry, and slaughter them all, as even Negan sees no resource in them. They are eventually discovered by the Commonwealth, who put an end to their barbaric ways.
The CRM continue their plans to destroy Portland, and eventually discover the Commonwealth. There is a time of cooperation as the Commonwealth has a formidable army, but ultimately, the CRM initiates their plan to annihilate them as well, in order to hoard all the resources to themselves.
Wow! Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
haha blamed Jared
Very detailed. I think that Jadis et.al would have been left to their own devices. And no one really knew about Oceanside until Tara stumbled upon it… so, they probably would’ve left alone until much later.
This also leads to no Morgan in fear which changes a whole lot too
Rick's legacy is the most important element in the show. I don't want to think of the show without Rick❤❤❤
If rick does not wake up the group follows shane to a definite demise travelling to or after they enter Ft Benning. It was talked about in Nebraska. Lets take that away and say shane stays near atlanta with the group. I see his erratic behavior in the first few shows (not evident on first watch but on later views) to be a major problem. Rick was able to get away from that bad guy attitude that took hold of him, twice. Shane would have let it fully take over him.
All I can say is thanks to Robert Kirkman for not killing off Rick at the beginning! It would have been a boring story.
so true!
I agree! I love Rick
It starts Morgan on a different path... And everything in the group would have been different.... If they didn't leave the quarry at the same point in time Morales wouldn't have met the saviors. If they did leave Shane wanted to try to find a military base. It would have been more likely to meet CRM confiscating goods in the early days...
If Rick did not woke up none of this will not happen Rick will be a walker in the hospital
Hey James! Wow...EVERYTHING would have been different. So many possibilities! Fun to think about...great video!! 😊
Thanks!! Yeah there are a bunch of great comments with all sorts of ideas and possibilities.
There would’ve been a different show if Rick would’ve been dead from the beginning.
To me, Rick was the signature of this show.
Shane would've left Sofia and the group that Rick brought back to the camp, then he would have to get rid of Daryl and others
I think their fates would have been much worse without our hero. Daryl probably wouldn't have become the stand up man that he did, the farm would have eventually gotten overrun and everyone there taken out because they were too naive about the walkers. I loved Shane, but he would have likely killed everyone else but Lori and Carl if it came down to it, maybe even became abusive to Lori and carl if they didn't do as he wanted...and ugh, so many things lol. The only time I was ever pissed at Rick, was when he made carol leave. Amazing character!
Yep, great character. I can see that about kicking out Carol, when she started crying it was really sad. But, if he didn't kick out Carol...they may have all become BBQ!
If Carol hadn’t been kicked out, she wouldn’t have been able to save everyone at Terminus. Everything happens for a reason 😊
A better question might have been considering the show is over so everything is known. What if Rick became a zombie and the show still followed him? Having him being one of the evolving zombies and instead helping the horde hunt and overwhelm survivor groups.
If Rick never made it i believe the Shane and the rest of the campers would have died in the long run, must likely Shane would have killed Daryl and Merle because of their antagonistic attitudes and i believe the group would have supported shane with the exception of Dale.
The Saviors would have been messing the communities until they kill everyone by taking their resources but if they last that long they would have lost to the whisperers.
CRM would have killed more civilians and would establish a New world order in the US😅
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With out Rick's appearance in the storyline, the group wouldn't have fared well.
- Shane had been leading the group and firmly believed that the army was coming to save them and that they should stay at the quarry.. Without Rick & his bag of guns, most of the group gets wiped out at the quarry by a group of walkers
- Merle & Daryl had originally been planning on stealing from the group & taking off. Without Rick, this would have ended up happening.
- I expect that a few members would have survived the walker horde and start heading towards Fort Benning, but they would have ended up stranded on the highway by Hershel's farm. Eventually some of the remaining group may have carried on, but ended up at Terminus, where they would have met their demise.
I think Shane would try and shoot whoever got in his way of being leader.
He was going to shoot Rick after all.
But Dale stopped him.🤔
Then there is the problem whether somebody found out.
The truth divide the group.
Good video Happy new year.🤔😄🎆
Happy New Year!
Shane wouldn't have let Merle get away with much if anything. Lori never would have forgiven Shane if he had killed Rick
If it wasn’t for Rick Merle would have robbed the camp he stated it in season 3 when they reunite that they planned to rob Shane’s camp so Rick handcuffing Merle actually did good for the group also I think the group would’ve died if they listened to Shane by going to fort Benning
Do one if shane and andrea left together
I'll add it to my list!
rick doesn't wake up:
the group that went to atlanta either doesn't make it back at all or they are few days late
camp is still overrun by walkers but would you look at that no rick - no guns - no support
more of them die
they go to fort benning just like shane wanted
merle and daryl either break off or something
shane is viewed as the "bad guy" of the group being already in season 1 on that season 7 mentality
so they either abandon him or kill him as a group effort
entire group perishes
governor runs his woodbury asylum
prison rots
hershel stays on his farm most likely being overrun as he was gonna be if it weren't for rick
saviors keep terrorising hilltop and kingdom eventually finding alexandria
trash people and wolves get dealt with brutally by negan
whisperers wearing walker skin fare no better against negan terrorizing 3 communities
oh btw
abraham eugene and rosita keep driving their truck and eventually making it to DC truth comes out
abraham most likely kills eugene or tells him to run
rosita tries to talk sense into him eventually abandoning him
oh and michonne maybe makes it to woodbury
or maybe terminus and gets eaten
no physical reason for her to go to DC
terminus yeah
they also keep luring and eating people
so yeah if it weren't for rick a lot of things would go terribly
all good points
I agree with other people in that this would be the kind of Tales episode I'd love to see. My thoughts, they would have found Negan far earlier but would have joined them and then we might've seen something like the Saviours vs the Whisperers... or the Whisperers wouldn't have even bothered to try to fight seeing how powerful the enemy is. They would have met the Commonwealth eventually but the dynamics would be very different (something like an alliance). Eventually an uprising coordinated across both communities with Shane, Negan, and Pamilla dead. Unless Shane redeemed himself but I could see the power going ton his head and be Negan's righthand man.
That said, the Merle vs Shane dynamic would've been really interesting to see - would they have just split in the end? I still think that Daryl would have changed but it would have taken far longer, like something went wrong with Merle after they split and he eventually found the original group again. If Merle had killed off Shane, would he still have willingly joined the Saviours?
I wonder if they would have ever met Michone? Would they have ever ended up at the prison and come across the Govener? So many way the story could've gone differently. I do think that with Shane being the leader of the group, the whole thing would've been a lot darker. For example, I think that they would have just overtaken the farm and killed Hershel, Maggie...etc.
Another great video James, thank you!
That is a dark outlook on the farm. Maybe the rest of group would not have allowed that. I do see Dale being murdered by Shane and made to look like an accident.
Good theorizing though and cool stuff to ponder for sure! Thanks!
Short answer a Small or medium size herd would wipe out any of the groups with out the plot armor of Rick.
haha yep
Easy answer, they all would have died in the first season. If it wasn't for his STACKED plot armor and INFINITE ammo 6 shooter they would ran out of bullets and got munched. I mean, he should not have woken up. He had to have been unattented in that hospital for weeks without water based on Jenner's records on the virus in season 1.
Crazy stuff! Daryl and Meryl wouldn't have latest long with the group. Daryl would never become the Daryl we all know and love. Shane would have stuck with Lori and Carl no doubt. They probably would have all went to the CDC and may not have gotten out alive if it wasn't for Rick's grenade. The story would have ended right then and there possibly! LOL
Rick wanted to go to the CDC and Shane wanted to go to Ft Benning - they may have escaped the CDC death?
But that grenade sure did help!!
Wait a minute. He stole Shane's group and destroyed it.
I always kept asking what if the TWD never started with Rick, how would it go!
Shane would have a lot of arguments with Merle because Merle was always yapping and antagonistic😢i think that Shane most likely would have killed Daryl and Merle and would likely be supoorted by the others at the camp😅
Everyone or at least most of the OG group would be dead. Rick is the one that keep them all alive, despite the dangers. Okay, not everyone survives, there were things he couldn't do anything about.
Shane would not have been so cool about Dayrl and his bro robbing them. He'd have made a move that would have seen people die, possibly including his unborn daughter and Carl. The remaining members would have turned on Shane.
No one would have been given any training as Shane would see that as a threat to himself. Trusting only those he believes can be trusted with any firearm. Whereas Rick gave anyone willing training.
Shane would rule with an iron fist, which wouldn't help him much. Where as Rick led by conscent and where he could tool everyone's opinion into account.
So at some point Shane would have died and chances are not many of the OG group would have made it out alive to see the events of S2, I'm sure he would have tried to rule Herschel's farm if he could.
If Rick never woke up, Shane and Lori would still be together, Merle and Daryl would have robbed and left the group, the group would have never joined Hershel’s farm so that’d be safe, they would have either ended up at fort Benning or met Woodbury and the governor and resulted in most of the group dying due to Shane’s leadership and who he values in the group like Lori and Carl. They would either die at the prison, on the road to Terminus or at Terminus
Merle and Daryl did not have much to rob. Merle had a rifle and pistol on the roof. Plenty of vehicles. Daryl had a pistol somewhere and a crossbow. They were down to Andrea's black squirrel.
@ Merle and Daryl were planning to rob the camp and leave, they’d have robbed whatever supplies the group had and left, my guess is they would have eventually joined some group like claimers or formed their own group with Merle leading
After the horde attack on the Atlanta camp they would have all gone they separate ways if Rick wasn’t they
Everyone things shane would not make it cuz he was crazy for lori but had rick not even come he wouldn't have been that crazy and would have def kept levle headed not gone to the prison so no govenor and negan idk i think he would try to takw him out but idk
Glenn T Dog merle all of them were trapped in the store, they wouldn't have made it back the same time line, they may not have left the quarry if Glen didn't draw the horde with the car horn...
In the comic, Shane did want to stay near the city because he thought the military would save them - and if they went off into the blue yonder the military wouldn't be able to help them.
I think Shane and Merl would probably get along quite a bit better than you may initially think. Shane said something like “the right choice is the one that keeps us alive.” How is that any different than Merle?
Merle just had a different approach
@@TWDExplainedin season 1, yes. I think season 2 Shane gets along with Merle much better than season 1 Shane.
And they wouldn't have followed any of the same paths because Shane and Merle whoever led....
We wouldn't have had the farm the prison terminus or Virginia....
If they tried to go north they may have been the CRM
Would Merle and group have escaped Atlanta? I think Merle knew the building was surrounded and was shooting the rifle as a signal to others.
If three shots it would have been a signal for help. ( Actually it was Glenn who got the quarry overrun because he was playing with a stolen car. Why did he not stop for the moving van and shut off the alarm.
I don't think Daryl? Would have become who he became without Rick. Merle and Daryl were going to rob the camp. But Rick cuffed Merle to that roof.🤷
what if the entire show was rick's coma dream....everyone rick met was in his dream.....
you could’ve at least put some spoiler warning for the other spinoffs ffs
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it would have been one of the best tv series ever done