@@wavypavy4059 Another great way to farm high value dyes is in the firmament. I also expect that the new 6.1 crafter/gatherer content will give us a way to get high value dyes so make sure to sell most of the stock before 6.1 if you can. I might be wrong but I think it's a given if we look at how historically we've done it
I am begging them to allow us to collect appearances without a storage system, and have a separate dying system so we can always access our dyes without having them in our inventory 😭
That would be so nice, but seeing how old the engine is as well adding in tons of things to the game that sounds like a major overhaul that can cause more harm than good in a coding sense. Hopefully one day we’ll get it but me personally, I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
Unfortunately this would basically require them to recode the game's entire inventory system as well ensure that no-one loses any items when the systems are switched. This is borderline an entire expansion worth of effort.
Not gonna happen or else they would've done this years ago, its pretty much a system/code limitation. they'd have to make a brand new game from scratch to make it work.
Love how people are, as usual, parroting the official dev excuse for this. You gotta remember that the official dev answer is filtered through PR and just generally not being able to be entirely honest because a layperson wouldn't understand it. They've said things would require a complete revolution multiple times about things they ended up doing anyway. It's not a flat no-no, it's a no-no with their current focus, goals, budget and team size. If you think about it critically, what you're proposing is literally just a numerical checklist of available items and dyes. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require beaming inordinate amounts of data through the servers. It *definitely* doesn't require recoding the whole damn game. It would undoubtedly be a LOT of work to implement, but it's not literally impossible - just impossible within the current set of limitations. Sauce: I've been doing game dev things for years and know how game engines work
@@recaplrg3552 As I recall that same LL did mention trying to do it for everything though it was stages since there's so much gear, which makes sense. But we were told 90 sets would have it at launch several months ago, unless that has since changed and Yoshi hasn't made a comment about it.
@@Arcanua They're probably gonna make stuff dual-dyeable at around the same rate they update armors. So they'll go bit by bit. So they'll update the armor textures and materials and while they're at it make the armor dual-dye compatible. That makes the most sense to me.
I don't think all gear will suddenly have dual dye channels on the initial release. I believe they said they are prioritizing certain sets first (I assume the most popular ones), and will get around to updating other older pieces over time. I know I'd like to see the Frontier Dress not absolutely have to have a pale yellow trim anymore.
Kinda silly they left the top on the pictomancer as a portion of the set that doesn't change color with dual dyes. It's RIGHT in the middle of the character.
I'm praying the elemental +1 armor is included in the sets that get a 2nd channel. Just spent so much time doing eureka while I was playing through the stormblood MSQ for the first time that I was actively trying to right click enemies to spin my elemental wheel after I left.
The best thing they could do is make this available for all mall items off the rip. This way whether people have 90+ gear or not can still interact with the new system
Can you dye the 2nd color without dyeing the 1st? The original reveal implied that there were only 3 dye modes (undyed, 1st dye, both dyes) and that made me wonder if there's something strange in the system that only lets you do the 2nd dye channel if you have something applied to the first.
i think if they're going to back-date this feature they'd do it in tandem with graphics upgrades on those pieces. we know that not every gear piece in the game is getting hit with the pretty stick right away, so if something like the Eureka Elemental Armor is getting 2 dyes (please), that'd probably wait til they go back and adjust the visuals. or they could just not bother. goodness knows they've stopped even pretending to care about viera and hrothgar headgear even for new items. even miqo'te are losing their ears to some hats.
I'm so excited for this. Do you happen to know if the Pictomancer chest keeps the same appearance for males? Or, are there differences in the chest piece? Because I've only seen it on female characters so far.
No, men get a top that's extended down and covers the stomach.. looks very ugly too. Legit only made a profile on the forum to comment on it. It ruins the whole gear.
I've been whining and ranting for this sort of feature for like a DECADE.... I can't believe it took them this long to put in something so fundamental 😭 But I'm so glad it's finally happening!
I hope at some point we get a dedicated inventory tab for dye pots, that way it cleans up inventory a little more
Dye crafter is going to have field day when dawntrail come out
island sanctuary I've been stocking up on the really high value dyes there, and already able to make a killing on it from people preparing for DT
@@wavypavy4059 Another great way to farm high value dyes is in the firmament. I also expect that the new 6.1 crafter/gatherer content will give us a way to get high value dyes so make sure to sell most of the stock before 6.1 if you can. I might be wrong but I think it's a given if we look at how historically we've done it
I am begging them to allow us to collect appearances without a storage system, and have a separate dying system so we can always access our dyes without having them in our inventory 😭
That would be so nice, but seeing how old the engine is as well adding in tons of things to the game that sounds like a major overhaul that can cause more harm than good in a coding sense. Hopefully one day we’ll get it but me personally, I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
Sadly won't ever happen with the correct system limits. They need a better base code to do this.
Unfortunately this would basically require them to recode the game's entire inventory system as well ensure that no-one loses any items when the systems are switched. This is borderline an entire expansion worth of effort.
Not gonna happen or else they would've done this years ago, its pretty much a system/code limitation. they'd have to make a brand new game from scratch to make it work.
Love how people are, as usual, parroting the official dev excuse for this. You gotta remember that the official dev answer is filtered through PR and just generally not being able to be entirely honest because a layperson wouldn't understand it. They've said things would require a complete revolution multiple times about things they ended up doing anyway. It's not a flat no-no, it's a no-no with their current focus, goals, budget and team size. If you think about it critically, what you're proposing is literally just a numerical checklist of available items and dyes. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require beaming inordinate amounts of data through the servers. It *definitely* doesn't require recoding the whole damn game. It would undoubtedly be a LOT of work to implement, but it's not literally impossible - just impossible within the current set of limitations.
Sauce: I've been doing game dev things for years and know how game engines work
Woah, I wasn't expecting new UI with extra features. Very glad to see it though.
Kinda have to given it's not 1 dye channel anymore.
The invert feature button is cool.
Can't wait to try it out, there are so many items that i would like to use with dual dye.
Thanks Meoni.
Yoshi mentioned in an LL quite a while ago they ARE adding this to 90 AF sets but anything past that is what we don't know.
I hope they do add that to older stuff too, especially cause they use 16 dye per material since around Stormblood.
@@recaplrg3552 As I recall that same LL did mention trying to do it for everything though it was stages since there's so much gear, which makes sense. But we were told 90 sets would have it at launch several months ago, unless that has since changed and Yoshi hasn't made a comment about it.
@@Arcanua They're probably gonna make stuff dual-dyeable at around the same rate they update armors. So they'll go bit by bit. So they'll update the armor textures and materials and while they're at it make the armor dual-dye compatible. That makes the most sense to me.
@@Zakjuh I hope as they do this, they make previous undyeable gear become dyeable.
@@ablox1166 Same same same! I really want Shadowless gear to be dyeable.
I don't think all gear will suddenly have dual dye channels on the initial release. I believe they said they are prioritizing certain sets first (I assume the most popular ones), and will get around to updating other older pieces over time. I know I'd like to see the Frontier Dress not absolutely have to have a pale yellow trim anymore.
Dual Dye is on the same hype level as Pictomancer and Viper
Your green/red Dragoon glam made me crave a watermelon jolley rancher!
I hope the Nier gear has the dual dye, hoping to dye them red and yellow to get that Cyborg 009 look.
So friggin' excited for DT!
Thank you so much for the video, Meoni.
Can’t wait to start dual dying, will look so much more vibrant with all the colours going around now 😂
Kinda silly they left the top on the pictomancer as a portion of the set that doesn't change color with dual dyes. It's RIGHT in the middle of the character.
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Very nice new UI and this will be fun. Did you get a chance to play with the glasses glam, or were there no glasses to try?
I'm praying the elemental +1 armor is included in the sets that get a 2nd channel. Just spent so much time doing eureka while I was playing through the stormblood MSQ for the first time that I was actively trying to right click enemies to spin my elemental wheel after I left.
Big! Thank You!
any educated guess (or hints given by Yoshi P) how fashion report will use dyes in the future ?
The best thing they could do is make this available for all mall items off the rip. This way whether people have 90+ gear or not can still interact with the new system
Can you dye the 2nd color without dyeing the 1st? The original reveal implied that there were only 3 dye modes (undyed, 1st dye, both dyes) and that made me wonder if there's something strange in the system that only lets you do the 2nd dye channel if you have something applied to the first.
i think if they're going to back-date this feature they'd do it in tandem with graphics upgrades on those pieces. we know that not every gear piece in the game is getting hit with the pretty stick right away, so if something like the Eureka Elemental Armor is getting 2 dyes (please), that'd probably wait til they go back and adjust the visuals.
or they could just not bother. goodness knows they've stopped even pretending to care about viera and hrothgar headgear even for new items. even miqo'te are losing their ears to some hats.
I'm so excited for this. Do you happen to know if the Pictomancer chest keeps the same appearance for males? Or, are there differences in the chest piece? Because I've only seen it on female characters so far.
From the illustration they've shown of a picto catboy back in the jp fanfest, it looks very similar on male characters at least.
No, men get a top that's extended down and covers the stomach.. looks very ugly too. Legit only made a profile on the forum to comment on it. It ruins the whole gear.
Lets goooo!!!
I'm so curious why no one tried double dye. I have some things I wanna make "solid," but I haven't seen anyone check if it's possible 😢
It is. Zepla's video has her go white/white on the RPR gear briefly.
interesting how they they hid the item names this media tour considering we saw the names of the af pieces and the level 90 accessories last time.
i expect this to be available only in new gear i dont believe its going to be able for previous sets whether is armor or just glams (mog or not)
We`ve seen older dungeon gear becoming dyeable as well, so could be implemented over time.
what set is that in the thumbnail
Dye market will skyrocket after launch
sooo cool!
Finally can make good ucob weapon glams by only makimg some parts yellow lol. Ult weapons are tough to glam man
Finally!
i want all wepons dya ble there is a old bow i love but i want it silver or black
I've been whining and ranting for this sort of feature for like a DECADE.... I can't believe it took them this long to put in something so fundamental 😭 But I'm so glad it's finally happening!
It might be fundamental on the service, but you are working on a game engine from 2011 with a lot of coding and data restraints.
gotta remember that they're only just recently catching up with all the technical debt
LOL I can picture people having 20 of all the same gear sets & using a macro to flip thru gear sets all dyed diff colors, making them rainbow
welp I'm gonna need to stock up on dyes again
the metallic look on the dragoon armor looks much better than the ugly metallic dye we actually have. the red looks like a ruby red