Dex, thanks for mentioning me. Amusingly enough, my record was beaten by tauKhan's 726 Bait run, but I had managed to crack back with my own Stick start as well. It'll be uploaded soon!
I typed a comment asking why Dex was locking the baits in the shop, and like 30 seconds later he explained the thing about free re-rolls. So I deleted that comment, but I figured I should feed the algorithm by offering engagement.
Glad I saw this. I was having a hard time with this character. I got to wave 19 using sticks, but died. :( I'll try the shredders. Sticks work good early game, but suriving is so hard with melee when a bunch of those dudes start spawning later in the run.
Great video dex! I also did this with melee weapon. Believe it or not, spear really works well and it's way more consistent than shredder imo. It gives you bonus hp so you are way more tanky, and it has so much range that it kills most of the bait worms in one thrust. If you aim manually, it's basically an easy win. Maybe you could try it for fun sometimes!
So with all the things you pointed out about trying this do you see yourself doing it again with the changes you talked about? Also the mech game that is like Brotato you did recently are you going to do more of it? It looked really fun and interesting
You know I just checked out that Vice the Fallen Paladin's channel and he just uploaded one with 930 baits. The dodging is just completely insane and gives me a headache watching 😄
At that point its really not needed anymore for the Sifd. Where did you see the Baby Gecko? It could be that I skipped it but if it was really late then same reason as for Sifd, but I'd be surprised cause its also cheap so I wouldve just locked it for a free reroll
This has to be your best run. Its insanely hard to pull this of.... level 2 is impossible same for 3 same for 4. In order to attemp this prepare for a whole day of dissapointment :D you first need to fish 4 shreders on level 1 then you need to pray on the rng god to survive the first few levels :D.
I don’t understand the logic of ‘saving a reroll’ by stacking bait up every roll. As far as I can tell, you would’ve bought them every roll anyways, so all you’re doing is limiting other items being able to show.
If you stack up 4 baits in the shop and then buy them all together, you can roll 5 times for the cost of 4 (as you reroll for free after emptying a shop)
Every time you empty out an entire shop the roll becomes free but the roll cost also dont progress. So if you lock the baits only or additionally other cheap things, you can roll for cheaper since you save on later very expensive rolls
Some case study might be helpful here: Let's say the reroll price is fixed for simplicity: If you earn 500 materials a wave, and the reroll cost is 9, if you always buy and roll for the bait and the bait only, you'll be able to get 50 of them. If you roll and lock baits until the shop is full of them and then you buy them, you essentially uses the cost of 4 rerolls to get 5 baits. If there is a weapon with the sell lost of 5 materials, you still "earn" four if you lock it and buy out the shop for the free reroll. Now imagine the reroll price would go up
Reroll price increases incrementally, but the cost of the items doesn't within the same shop. Since all he cares about is getting the bait, he can get a "free" reroll by locking the baits and buying 3 with 1 cheap item. So your upfront costs are higher, but over time you're saving lots of money on the later rerolls which will cost way more than the throw away item you're buying. And if you do it with a level 1 weapon, you can just recycle it later for a little money back.
If you have enough range which it seemed I had, it kinda becomes pointless since everything dies before it can act, up until wave 40. There the speed increase of the enemies can become an issue which is countered by Tardigrades. I dont have a lot of fun when the premise of the run doesnt change at all
Ever roll increases in cost. That's the obvious part cause, well, we see it. Whenever all 4 items are bought, the price of a roll not only goes to 0 but the cost also doesn't progress. So if a roll costs 14, all 4 items are bought, the roll becomes free but the next one remains 14 instead of e.g. 16. This means by buying all 4 items we save 14 material but also 1 reroll progression on all future rerolls, which adds up to a huge amount of money if we do like 50 rerolls, 100 rerolls etc. So if I buy a weapon for 50 and sell it for 35, the invested 15 material is to reduce all future reroll cost increases by 1 step while also making the current one free. And rerolls get very expensive very fast if a lot were done
Yea, whenever my goal is to beat a challenge I record it to use it as potential footage (like when I later properly do it I can reference things), but I just look into it myself and see what's an issue and what isn't, what has to be done and avoided. Same thing for all other challenges like no movement or trying to achieve the highest damage or so.
I dont know the context, but Im talking about the first attempt with Shredder and have died with other weapons, or I may have referred to me dying in the run
@@DexTag nevermind buddy. Anyway, have you tried spear? went back myself to fisherman after seeing you fail a bit and spears are much easier early than shredders. Didnt count or optimise but bought all possible baits and actually survived.
Hey i have a question : does the «buy the whole shop to save a roll » applies to other characters too ? Seems to me that it is specifically design for this challenge, isn’t it ?
It works for this character because he's guaranteed a $1 item every roll. Other characters can get a free roll by buying out the shop, but it's way more expensive and thus not worth doing like this.
Impressive 😀
Thanks mate, very much appreciated! Glad you enjoy it :)
Dex, thanks for mentioning me. Amusingly enough, my record was beaten by tauKhan's 726 Bait run, but I had managed to crack back with my own Stick start as well. It'll be uploaded soon!
Saw a bit of the video. Was very satisfying seeing your dodges with the mouse(Gamepad?) movement.
@MrEddie4679 All my gameplay uses mouse only controls outside of niche scenarios like Soldier stutterstepping where I'll use my keyboard.
chatoicmice....................
(not in a mean way)
Jorbs did 1000 just abou now... XD
I typed a comment asking why Dex was locking the baits in the shop, and like 30 seconds later he explained the thing about free re-rolls. So I deleted that comment, but I figured I should feed the algorithm by offering engagement.
Glad I saw this. I was having a hard time with this character. I got to wave 19 using sticks, but died. :( I'll try the shredders. Sticks work good early game, but suriving is so hard with melee when a bunch of those dudes start spawning later in the run.
Spear works well for this character, and get a bit of speed early. It let's you hit them hard from a distance and still outrun them.
Yeah I was going to say it is a good idea to transition to spears and just get a lot of attack speed.
Spears are fantastic.
Spears hit them before they dash
Spears are the best weapon for this class.
The fact that you showed the first set of re try's shows you are an honest person, and that's what matters to us Dex! Keep up the Great work bro!
4:48 “I can kill all of them, and they will die” - Greatest quote ever
Was about to comment this 😂
Great video dex! I also did this with melee weapon. Believe it or not, spear really works well and it's way more consistent than shredder imo. It gives you bonus hp so you are way more tanky, and it has so much range that it kills most of the bait worms in one thrust. If you aim manually, it's basically an easy win. Maybe you could try it for fun sometimes!
I enjoyed the replay commentary it was a nice change up to the usual live commentary.
FISHERMAN UPLOAD yessss ive been struggling on this danger 5
Oh my goodness. I've been playing a lot of spear fishing but I never realized how to game the reroll mechanic WOW.
Hey Dex. Bit of a sidequestion here, but have you ever played Noita? I think you might enjoy it.
Dex truly is the Master-baiter
How did I manage to get here 37 seconds after the post?
So with all the things you pointed out about trying this do you see yourself doing it again with the changes you talked about? Also the mech game that is like Brotato you did recently are you going to do more of it? It looked really fun and interesting
You know I just checked out that Vice the Fallen Paladin's channel and he just uploaded one with 930 baits. The dodging is just completely insane and gives me a headache watching 😄
Hi Dex! i did that with Slingshots. went to round 47 :P
You skipped at least one baby gecko before you took the cursed one...
Also, why skip Sifd's relic in the wave 19/20 shop?
At that point its really not needed anymore for the Sifd. Where did you see the Baby Gecko? It could be that I skipped it but if it was really late then same reason as for Sifd, but I'd be surprised cause its also cheap so I wouldve just locked it for a free reroll
You could say that fisherman was a master baiter
This run look so smart and amazing
Whenever I'm uncertain I go for armor. Wow, you must be very sure of yourself.
Dex is the master of baiting
This has to be your best run. Its insanely hard to pull this of.... level 2 is impossible same for 3 same for 4. In order to attemp this prepare for a whole day of dissapointment :D you first need to fish 4 shreders on level 1 then you need to pray on the rng god to survive the first few levels :D.
god, thnaks you for giving me this chamce to see this video
Dex, the master baitor
Still got lucky the first few rounds - four shredders on round 4, good upgrades on round 1 2 and 3 from level up and so on ;)
Na, lucky is for me something that cant be done by just resetting a few times, something like a pirate flag on shop wave 4
Why did you buy the crown after wave 17? Wasnt it a waste?
I don’t understand the logic of ‘saving a reroll’ by stacking bait up every roll. As far as I can tell, you would’ve bought them every roll anyways, so all you’re doing is limiting other items being able to show.
If you stack up 4 baits in the shop and then buy them all together, you can roll 5 times for the cost of 4 (as you reroll for free after emptying a shop)
Every time you empty out an entire shop the roll becomes free but the roll cost also dont progress. So if you lock the baits only or additionally other cheap things, you can roll for cheaper since you save on later very expensive rolls
@@DexTag I watched your earlier vedio after the dlc and the reroll cost actually still goes up even when you clear up a shop.
Is this a new thing?
Some case study might be helpful here:
Let's say the reroll price is fixed for simplicity:
If you earn 500 materials a wave, and the reroll cost is 9, if you always buy and roll for the bait and the bait only, you'll be able to get 50 of them.
If you roll and lock baits until the shop is full of them and then you buy them, you essentially uses the cost of 4 rerolls to get 5 baits.
If there is a weapon with the sell lost of 5 materials, you still "earn" four if you lock it and buy out the shop for the free reroll.
Now imagine the reroll price would go up
Reroll price increases incrementally, but the cost of the items doesn't within the same shop. Since all he cares about is getting the bait, he can get a "free" reroll by locking the baits and buying 3 with 1 cheap item. So your upfront costs are higher, but over time you're saving lots of money on the later rerolls which will cost way more than the throw away item you're buying. And if you do it with a level 1 weapon, you can just recycle it later for a little money back.
If you wanted to go for a borked endless run, what would you have changed?
'hitting a point where i can kill all of them and they will die'
ok dex 😅
How far you can do it in endless?
I am asking for too much but pls longer videos
thats insane
Do it again but on endless until wave 100 👍🏻
If you have enough range which it seemed I had, it kinda becomes pointless since everything dies before it can act, up until wave 40. There the speed increase of the enemies can become an issue which is countered by Tardigrades. I dont have a lot of fun when the premise of the run doesnt change at all
Dec you NEED to do hunter with hiking pole!!!!
One shot Everything 😃
Just so you know, I have no clue what you were talking about with the free rerolls. It's not you, it's me.
Ever roll increases in cost. That's the obvious part cause, well, we see it. Whenever all 4 items are bought, the price of a roll not only goes to 0 but the cost also doesn't progress. So if a roll costs 14, all 4 items are bought, the roll becomes free but the next one remains 14 instead of e.g. 16. This means by buying all 4 items we save 14 material but also 1 reroll progression on all future rerolls, which adds up to a huge amount of money if we do like 50 rerolls, 100 rerolls etc. So if I buy a weapon for 50 and sell it for 35, the invested 15 material is to reduce all future reroll cost increases by 1 step while also making the current one free. And rerolls get very expensive very fast if a lot were done
When do you breathe?
masterbaiting :)
R12?
i do like that kind of video
Why no endless? :(
They need to add the uav's from one of the mods so we can block those awful balls
Believe it or not but 474 is my lucky number
ze tschörmän äccent is very strong today
Ey shad da fak ab
Somehow, the video itself isn't bait.
is this entire video a voiceover?
Ig no bc he gets anxious some momen
Yea, whenever my goal is to beat a challenge I record it to use it as potential footage (like when I later properly do it I can reference things), but I just look into it myself and see what's an issue and what isn't, what has to be done and avoided. Same thing for all other challenges like no movement or trying to achieve the highest damage or so.
@ I just like hearing your reactions and german rambling in real time is all :)
😳 I just lost my level 18 fisherman Rock run and you taunt me like this??? How could you Dex…😭
Day 2 of asking des to do a run with only cursed guns and items.
Challenge: you should play as the character that starts with the cursed hook but your not allowed to take any cursed items
Day 3
"this is my first attempt, but i've died a few times"
I dont know the context, but Im talking about the first attempt with Shredder and have died with other weapons, or I may have referred to me dying in the run
@@DexTag nevermind buddy. Anyway, have you tried spear? went back myself to fisherman after seeing you fail a bit and spears are much easier early than shredders. Didnt count or optimise but bought all possible baits and actually survived.
Wasn’t this my idea?(in the recent stream about that fisherman challenge)
Day 5 of asking Dex to play Utopia must Fall
Unlock Chaos in Vampire Survivors, the secret code is the number 1-21 (I II III IV V VI...) (without spaces) it has all 21 Arcana as starting Arcana
Algoboost
No
So stupid
i watched a guy do 533
Hey i have a question : does the «buy the whole shop to save a roll » applies to other characters too ? Seems to me that it is specifically design for this challenge, isn’t it ?
It works for this character because he's guaranteed a $1 item every roll. Other characters can get a free roll by buying out the shop, but it's way more expensive and thus not worth doing like this.
@ yeah thought so. Interesting though as it never occurred to me that you could optimised your runs like that
how Dex haven't named this one "JeBaited" run is beyond me 😂
as once CS youtuber said "It's german humor, it's no laughing matter"