This method works but I’m happy to pass on a not so secret trade method shown to me as apprentice luthier over 40 years ago and I still use today. Use thin rubber or flexible plastic tubing with an internal diameter small enough to fit snugly over pot slotted ends but not over the thread. Feed the tubing through the top of the body first and out through the f holes. Push the tubing over each pot end then carefully pull back though. Do not remove the tubing once the pot is in place simply slide the washers and nuts down the other end of the tubing over the pot thread and finger tight in place. Then remove tube. Works on switches too with smaller gauge tubing or tape around switch tread for tight fit. For the jack you will need to place tubing over thread so the tube will have to come off before washer and nut. I have also used heat shrink tubing and even plastic drinking straws taped together when no tubing was available.
@@johncartelli Your video was passed on to me by a customer query and I replied that your method works. However the customer unfortunately used heavier gauge copper wire not as per this video and ultimately scratched certain areas of his guitar both internally and finish work. As you are probably aware it is common and in fact we have a fair amount of business based around customers accidentally damaging their instruments whilst trying repair or do mod work. My comments above just reflect a certain methods we use and in no way suggest your method inferior. Videos like yours help the wider community understand and appreciate that any repairs or mods on guitars should be done with an understanding and with the utmost care. Thanks.
@@1964vintage he scratched it internally?well there are a thousand ways to do the same procedure, this just happens to be how i did mine. your customer doesnt posses the skills needed to do a uneventful procedure. regardless of what wire he used it appears.
@@johncartelli yes unfortunate but a lesson learnt in his case. My question to him, like you state, how did he manage to scratch it internally? Like I said he claims to be using heavy gauge wire and I can only assume may have been frustrated or a too heavy handed. I can’t verify either way or what exactly happened. We wouldn’t have a customer base if people were competent with all aspects of repairs on their instruments. The reality is that most are not. Hence we get repairs from people who say ‘I thought I’d have a go first’ .
1:59 thank you, I was getting dizzy! I use a drop of wax to hold the flat washer onto the pot, a dot of solder on top of the pot shaft to hold the fish wire. Have the flat washer and nut threaded on the fish wire. Your vid is way better than mine because I don't have one! Good vid, thumbs up.
elastic bands also work. Loop the band through itself then around the post. Fish it up through the hole. I use a thin stiff wire to hook the elastic band. The elastic band is thin enough that you can just drop your washer and nut down the elastic band onto the post so there is less chance of dropping through. I needed to check out the star washer. I was pretty sure the cut side went up into the wood ( it just makes sense) but I wanted to make sure. Good tutorial. thanks. Always great to have more than one method.
@@johncartelli can you demonstrate how to take out the pot. I may have knocked off a wire when hammering frets. I need to check under the pickup by removing. It's a hollowbody. Subscribed now
Hi I saw your video as I am having to work on a Epiphone Dot Studio I got and I had used a similar process as you but thought there is a further step that eliminates having to hold the end of the pot when you take the trace wire off. If you slip the washer and securing nut over the other end of the trace wire so they can slide down and onto the stem at the top of the pot. Then just tighten nut and then remove trace wire.
Thanks for posting this.... I am not half as I was stupid as before watching!... Why the heck didn't I think of this!.... Great idea. Simple and easy..... Thanks!
Good tip. I have to check the solder joints on the bridge vol pot of a Casino. This is easier than feeding everything through the pickup home. Thank you.
The trick is to tie fishing strings around the threads of the pots , before you let them drop in , then you can do whatever , even put new pots and connect to the fishing line and then once all soldered up pull them back up through the holes and walah
nods same concept..use anything to pull them back up.i like using the wire because it will bend and hold itself around the pot shaft without having to tie a knot..plus the wire will hold its shape if you bend it..much easier to fish it to where you need it,,,fishing line not so good and tying a knot means ill have to untie or cut off later....thanks for the comment and watching
@@kimhansen6384 too stiff a wire and it will be harder to stay onto the pot shaft and pull it through the holes...i like the way i did it better..but thanks,,,
Run the wire through the hole and out of the opening 1st. Hook the pot and pull it through. No sense in trying to feed the wire through the body. Especially on the back 2 pots and the jack plate.
sure but i would have a little bit more trouble undoing the wires then trying to pull them up through the slot of the pot..i suppose it would work but this way is just how i did it...basically to show a way to do it.....but thanks for watching and the comment
johncartelli John I am going to to new pickups in my 335 the same way you did! I'm not going to pull all the wires out the F hole. That would drive me crazy. I play Bare Knuckle P90s on my Les Paul Standard and I love them. They look just like the pickups you installed. Great video friend
only takes 10-15 min... what they need to do its allow pickup changes without loosening strings.. like a removal system from the rear of the guitar...that would be impressive.
?...theyre not a pain, theyre actually quite simple to perform....and you wouldnt cut a connector unless you needed to change a pickup..so I'm not sure what your comment is saying
lol lighten up mr Bd its my guitar not yours and the finish is fine.its got a polyurethane finish, laying the pots on it does nothing unless your forcing them into the wood ...thanks for watching..or maybe not
This method works but I’m happy to pass on a not so secret trade method shown to me as apprentice luthier over 40 years ago and I still use today. Use thin rubber or flexible plastic tubing with an internal diameter small enough to fit snugly over pot slotted ends but not over the thread. Feed the tubing through the top of the body first and out through the f holes. Push the tubing over each pot end then carefully pull back though. Do not remove the tubing once the pot is in place simply slide the washers and nuts down the other end of the tubing over the pot thread and finger tight in place. Then remove tube. Works on switches too with smaller gauge tubing or tape around switch tread for tight fit. For the jack you will need to place tubing over thread so the tube will have to come off before washer and nut. I have also used heat shrink tubing and even plastic drinking straws taped together when no tubing was available.
there are thousands of ways to do it....this is just how i did it...thanks for watching and the comment
@@johncartelli Your video was passed on to me by a customer query and I replied that your method works. However the customer unfortunately used heavier gauge copper wire not as per this video and ultimately scratched certain areas of his guitar both internally and finish work. As you are probably aware it is common and in fact we have a fair amount of business based around customers accidentally damaging their instruments whilst trying repair or do mod work. My comments above just reflect a certain methods we use and in no way suggest your method inferior. Videos like yours help the wider community understand and appreciate that any repairs or mods on guitars should be done with an understanding and with the utmost care. Thanks.
@@1964vintage he scratched it internally?well there are a thousand ways to do the same procedure, this just happens to be how i did mine. your customer doesnt posses the skills needed to do a uneventful procedure. regardless of what wire he used it appears.
@@johncartelli yes unfortunate but a lesson learnt in his case. My question to him, like you state, how did he manage to scratch it internally? Like I said he claims to be using heavy gauge wire and I can only assume may have been frustrated or a too heavy handed. I can’t verify either way or what exactly happened. We wouldn’t have a customer base if people were competent with all aspects of repairs on their instruments. The reality is that most are not. Hence we get repairs from people who say ‘I thought I’d have a go first’ .
I wasn't concentrating and a pot dropped through. I figured only David Copperfield could get it back out. So you save my life here. Thanks!
1:59 thank you, I was getting dizzy! I use a drop of wax to hold the flat washer onto the pot, a dot of solder on top of the pot shaft to hold the fish wire. Have the flat washer and nut threaded on the fish wire. Your vid is way better than mine because I don't have one!
Good vid, thumbs up.
sure anything you got around to produce the same result will work. thanks for the comment and viewing
Perfect. I was imagining tiss could be the best way to do the same on my jazz archtop - you confirmed it nicely. Cheers
Life saver! I tried to do one without your method and realized this wasn’t gonna happen!
nods...theres several ways to do this but they're all basically the same glad it helped and thanks for the comment and watching
Nice work, John. This will help me with an old hollow-body bass I just acquired.
thanks, glad i could help...
elastic bands also work. Loop the band through itself then around the post. Fish it up through the hole. I use a thin stiff wire to hook the elastic band. The elastic band is thin enough that you can just drop your washer and nut down the elastic band onto the post so there is less chance of dropping through.
I needed to check out the star washer. I was pretty sure the cut side went up into the wood ( it just makes sense) but I wanted to make sure. Good tutorial. thanks.
Always great to have more than one method.
sure anything you got around to produce the same result will work. thanks for the comment and viewing
@@johncartelli can you demonstrate how to take out the pot. I may have knocked off a wire when hammering frets. I need to check under the pickup by removing. It's a hollowbody. Subscribed now
If you remove the pickup, you can reach your hand in there. Much easier.
thats more work..this took seconds
Hi I saw your video as I am having to work on a Epiphone Dot Studio I got and I had used a similar process as you but thought there is a further step that eliminates having to hold the end of the pot when you take the trace wire off. If you slip the washer and securing nut over the other end of the trace wire so they can slide down and onto the stem at the top of the pot. Then just tighten nut and then remove trace wire.
yup that would work...
Worked great with 18 guage wire. Thanks, it saved me more frustration.
your welcome...thanks for watching and the comment
Thanks for posting this.... I am not half as I was stupid as before watching!... Why the heck didn't I think of this!.... Great idea. Simple and easy..... Thanks!
everyone is stupid till they know how...especially me thanks for watching and the comment
Thank you John. I know that task is just around the corner for me. Lots of good ideas to work with.
hey no problem hope it works for you and thanks for watching and a comment
Good tip. I have to check the solder joints on the bridge vol pot of a Casino. This is easier than feeding everything through the pickup home. Thank you.
your welcome..thanks for watching
Thanks for the tips very helpful information.
your welcome thanks for the comment and watching
That’s a great tip thanks man
it worked good for me...thanks for watching and the comment
Simple but effective...well done John great idea!
thanks...for watching and the comment
The trick is to tie fishing strings around the threads of the pots , before you let them drop in , then you can do whatever , even put new pots and connect to the fishing line and then once all soldered up pull them back up through the holes and walah
nods same concept..use anything to pull them back up.i like using the wire because it will bend and hold itself around the pot shaft without having to tie a knot..plus the wire will hold its shape if you bend it..much easier to fish it to where you need it,,,fishing line not so good and tying a knot means ill have to untie or cut off later....thanks for the comment and watching
This is a great suggestion because you don't have to care about messing up the actual pot position . Thank you!
John, always finding a good way to "get 'er done" J
thanks my friend i just hate it when things take longer than they should...the brain then goes into high gear and makes it all good....
what kind of potentiometers can be used to replace the ones on the DOT? great tip, man. Thanks.
audio type heres a link..www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and_Electronics/Components_and_Parts/CTS_Control_Pots.html
This was very cool. Thank you. I know I will eventually have to do this.
glad you found it useful
You can also use a thin solid wire, works fine too.
yes thats essentially what i used
@@johncartelli No it was not a solid core wire. Solid core holds the pot more firm.
@@kimhansen6384 too stiff a wire and it will be harder to stay onto the pot shaft and pull it through the holes...i like the way i did it better..but thanks,,,
@@kimhansen6384 solid core tends to break when bent enough times,,,im glad you have a method..i like mine thanks for the comment
Run the wire through the hole and out of the opening 1st. Hook the pot and pull it through. No sense in trying to feed the wire through the body. Especially on the back 2 pots and the jack plate.
thousand ways to do it..this is just how i did it thanks for watching and the comment
You should have attached the wire before you removed the pot. Then you can pull the wire all the way through
yup couldve done that...its always easier to see a diff way once its done lol
thanks for the comment and watching
Could have just left the screws on the wire that was around the pot and pulled the wire and let the screw drop down over the wire . Walla
sure but i would have a little bit more trouble undoing the wires then trying to pull them up through the slot of the pot..i suppose it would work but this way is just how i did it...basically to show a way to do it.....but thanks for watching and the comment
Nikon camera??
nope
Looks like "a pain in the butt" as I have heard many Americans say in the movies.
more of a pain without the wire for sure
Sounds like gremlins in the background
was a fan oscillating sorry
You didn't make sure the pots are oriented correctly?
orientation?....theres no need for orientation.
You should have put new pots. CTS and tossed the Chinese pots
if I wanted to upgrade yes.....but i just wanted to get it back together...and didnt have cts pots
johncartelli John I am going to to new pickups in my 335 the same way you did! I'm not going to pull all the wires out the F hole. That would drive me crazy. I play Bare Knuckle P90s on my Les Paul Standard and I love them. They look just like the pickups you installed. Great video friend
thanks...man...and thanks for watching and commenting
......and one guy didn't like this?????? What's not to like about something like this???
i pissed somebody off so its their way of getting back...a**hole..lol
What a pain! Gimme a solid body any day.
only takes 10-15 min... what they need to do its allow pickup changes without loosening strings.. like a removal system from the rear of the guitar...that would be impressive.
as much as these methods look like a pain in the butt I don't really want to cut pickup conductors.
?...theyre not a pain, theyre actually quite simple to perform....and you wouldnt cut a connector unless you needed to change a pickup..so I'm not sure what your comment is saying
Thats it. Lay the pots right on the finish. Why are you making vidoes like this? To teach bad technique to people?
lol lighten up mr Bd its my guitar not yours and the finish is fine.its got a polyurethane finish, laying the pots on it does nothing unless your forcing them into the wood
...thanks for watching..or maybe not
Nice tip, thanks man!
thanks ..it saved me a lot of time