I have the Cadillac Lyriq and I love the car. I’m surprised that you didn’t see the uneven gaps in the right side hatch. I had my car serviced and was given a Lyriq loaner which had the same problem. It doesn’t hinder the door from closing, but it is quite noticeable. I also had problems with tray drawer in the console constantly popping out, something which the service department could not resolve. The rear HVAC vents were also not working, but this was resolved by the service department. Other than that the car gives me almost 400 miles on a full charge which is true if I don’t turn on the AC. This car is a leap forward for Cadillac! Can’t wait for the Escalade EV! Keep up the great work. 😊
So fortunate to have found your channel. Finally someone that speaks my language for quality and details Lyriq is one of the best in class EVs you can get. I drove it in 2021 and fell in love
The Lyriq is hands down the better vehicle here. Lexus did a good job separating the RZ from the bZ4x but they could only do so much to polish what is essentially one of the worst EVs on the market.
@@avdp9095the 350km is under IDEAL conditions - e.g. no heater use, no excessive speed on the highway etc. The thing is, under IDEAL conditions, the Lyriq will do almost ~500km range, that means you can theoretically drive faster, use the heater etc. and STILL better than RZ 450e in the real world.
@@avdp9095 Well, people argue with me a lot. I've owned GM and also Lexus and can only speak from personal experience. Cadillac is one for two with me. My first one made me swear that I would never buy another but the Lyriq is superior to the Lexus in my book. Lyriq is often compared to the etron but costs about half as much. Is it possible that Lexus is a bit overrated? It sure seems that way, especially considering the pricing.
The Lyriq is not just GM. This is join development with Honda. And for the range, size, options also finishing even better than some Germany premium brand EV priced 50% or more.
I appreciate the objective review. The only point that I would argue with is all wheel drive. I bought the Lyriq partly because it is rear wheel drive with fewer components, lighter, and better range. My early Tesla was rear wheel drive and I later traded up and found that all Gen 2 Model S's were all wheel drive creating reliability concerns. Granted I live in a warm climate where all wheel drive is not a necessity and generally like rear wheel drive better. My Lyriq is high end with everything else on board. There is a 2k difference in the price for all wheel drive on Lyriq which I opted out of.
Great unbiased assessment. Its clear that Cadillac is kicking it up several notches to compete in this segment. From what I've seen, they are going for dominance. I would never buy an escalade. But their 4 door sedans offer some world class.performance
We opted for a Luxury 3 Lyriq in order to get both super cruise and rear view mirror camera options. I haven't had any issues with the car yet. The design and workmanship is first rate and user friendly. The metallic paint is absolutely high end and stunning but also extra. There is a $7500 rebate and GM allows an extra $500 for all veterans so we went a bit higher in price to get what we wanted. The base price is quite reasonable but not equipped like a Cadillac it seems.
Excellent review! Did you have a chance to compare the sound systems for sound quality and functionality? Many people listen to music and podcasts. Thanks!
Normally I would pick anything Lexus over Cadillac, but in this case the Lyriq hands down wins over the RZ simply because it is such a more advanced EV from the ground up.
With EVs reliability goes up in general regardless of brand. No transmission, simple electric motor, brakes last a long time, radiator flushes every 200k miles.
David, you state at 12:30 that the 33" screen is obviously a number of panel put together but if you had done your research you would have known that the 33" screen is one continuous panel and NOT several put together. Great review though otherwise.
David, love you analysis of the EV’s. I own a 24 Solterra Limited. Love the car. Range serves my needs well. Would love to see a factory tour of the Solterra and a motor assembly of the Solterra. Could you share a deep dive of the Solterra battery and potential software updates for battery management improvements? Thanks for the great content.
This Lyriq may look better than this particular Lexus, but the key takeaway for me is reliability and service. For that reason, I'd go with Lexus..just not this one
I like your reviews. Could you add some data for Americans as well? For example, pricing in US $ as well as Canadian $ -- and the price difference is often not simply the exchange rate because some like Honda and Tesla are far more expensive in Canada than in the US than mere exchange rate would predict.
This video is an important for UAW with high quality built. The push button switches for the doors should have been prohibited for violation of two faults safety requirement. (One 12V battery cable came out or 12V battery itself fail all the doors cannot open from inside.) EVs are much less complications than ICE vehicle therefore; they both should have the same reliability. But you can easily fix the battery on Lyriq. The question is this Lexus actually has BYD battery or not. If not I would say Lyriq is much better in term of longevity because you can easily fix the battery on Lyriq. (Electric motor will last for millions of miles but the battery will not)
Thank you for your informative video always.. Much appreciated. I have a question. I want to buy a hybrid car. The problem is that I often have to leave my car in my garage for 2-4 weeks for my business trip. Will it be ok to leave a hybrid car in the garage without driving for 2-4 weeks? I worry about the battery of the hybrid car or EV if I don't drive for such long time. Your knowledge will be highly appreciated.. Thank you.
If the high voltage battery is nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) battery it can be a problem, for Lithium-ion battery it's not that much of a problem. The reason is lithium ion batteries have very low self-discharge rate. So it's worthwhile to pay a bit of attention to that area, a lot of hybrids use NiMH batteries.
David remains unbiased on engineering terms. But his bias shines out on other criteria. I find that his preferred driving feel is the opposite of what I prefer. Drive both cars and also test drive a Tesla Model 3 and Y.
Yes, the question of road trips was not mentioned. It's nice to see a review that gives these cars credit for their strengths. But I guess he's just figuring that most people have already heard about the down sides. In case anyone hasn't already heard, the most important factor in determining how quickly you can complete a road trip is the charging curve. This is a major weak point for both of these cars. In general, if timely road trips are important to you, the best EV will be a Tesla. For the daily commute or driving around town, the Cadillac and Lexus are both great.
@@davidmenasco5743 I only disagree with your use of the word Tesla. Wide spread single branded experience yes but those red dots comprise of many versions Tesla has moved on from, can still charge you but not as quickly. This is befitting of slow charging EV’s to adopt while others Tesla owners tolerate or have purchased CC2 adapters to charge at EA’s when they’re quicker with no V3’s available. That’s because Version 2’s derate Tesla’s to 40kW on warmer days not being liquid cooled. Tesla themselves are building their next Version 4 (3’s will have to be upgraded to reach their next generation EV’s) which is their silent admission of choosing too low a voltage a decade ago and being too slow to mature past that. Elon said 800V would boil the batteries at battery day a few years ago while he was configuring upcoming chargers to do just that at the more transmission efficient higher voltages. I’m looking forward to Tesla’s having as many kWh under the charging curve as my 70%SOC in 17 min and 82% in 22 minutes. According to my personal stats however the majority of my charging is at home. Those swift juice ups are nice on the occasional trips we take. If you’re forever on the road then the Tesla set of jelly beans are the best choice for ease and simplicity. Just choose a color or size and if you do choose V3’s over the V2’s Superchargers that Tesla’s UI seems to always guiding you to. Version 3 sites will yield the best experience for your choice unless they down for the hardware upgrade. Hope the remaining summer goes great. See you in the future. 😎
The Cadillac look,s so much better, but I’d still buy the Lexus, cause I drive a Lexus 4 years now and I’ve had zilch problems, and it drives the same it did the day I bought it, now that’s quality.
EXACTLY but people seemingly always tend have personal issues with American Products...quality or otherwise overall design. Kinda like an ULGY WOMEN with great qualities and overall good design dynamics
@@star1355Japanese automakers have really hung their hats on quality. The problem is EVs level the playing field a lot. EVs by their nature are going to be more reliable. GM can focus on fit and finish, because the battery and drivetrain are shared with many other vehicles. The Lyriq rear drivetrain is the Hummers front drivetrain. And the Blazer EV and Lyriq use the same drivetrain.
My major issues with the Lyriq, Extremely short bench on the seat! Terrible for a taller driver. Not everyone is 5’ 8”. The display is dim in normal daylight, even with settings at maximum.
@@naveenthemachine while you have your crystal ball handy, can you tell me what the S&P will do tomorrow? I wouldn’t worry about Toyota or Lexus exist or not. Got bigger fish to fry.
The lexus looks cheap as hell. Toyota level not lexus. That car should have never made it out to showroom, the lyric looks waayyyyyyy better than that toyota… i mean lexus. I own two lexus and they look way better than that thing named RZ.
I feel the need to provide a reality check. Paint thickness and panel gap isn't very important these days. Maybe it was in the 50's & 60's but all manufacturers do a pretty good job at this. I guess it gives you your own little niche in car reviews. You're testing 2 EV's and offer no info on the range, battery capacity, or charging rate among others. This info is way more important than panel gaps and paint thickness. You mention that the Lyric has more capabilities but don't say what they are.
@@TJDST4 ICE vehicle have essentially unlimited range given that that you can easily get gas anywhere anytime in less than 10 minutes (don't count costco gas).
@@Quangus1 Unless your ICE vehicle is diesel and someone in gas car is "in your spot", or your ICE vehicle requires 91+ octane gas. But those are only "fringe" cases, right?
The charging curve is much more important than range when driving distances in an EV. Within the decade, charging speeds will approach the speed of refilling ICE cars. As charging speeds increase, the need for large, costly batteries will decrease.
A Caddy.. yuk!! Had the misfortune of owning a 2019 Escalade ESV ( premium luxury trim ) and while it looked boss, pulled like a freight train, and the ride was better than my current SUV ( Lexus GX 460 ) .. the ghost rattles, issues with cylinder deactivation ( ugh!!! ) malfunctioning audio and the absolutely trash touch buttons would deter me from recommending a Caddy to anyone!
The last GM car that my family owned was a '69 Cadillac El Dorado. A beautiful car, but had serious trasmission problems. We bought a '71 Lincoln Continental Mk III after that, beautiful styling, but still unreliable.
You know, an ICE car is simply a Molotov cocktail on wheels. And note, several hundred people per year die when their ICE car auto-starts in a closed garage that's attached to their bedroom. Even when separated by a wall, those fumes are still deadly. And don't forget the lower center of gravity, and the quicker acceleration. All in all, the EV is much safer than the ICE car.
I'm curious about reliability...I'll praise GM "Garbage Motors" if that really powerful battery lives after 3 years for owners. Toyota/Lexus claim 90% battery lifespan retention after 5 years. 307-312 miles for the Lyriq with a 100+ KWh...we'll see how it does after 36K miles and also the depreciation.
Love the unbiased review David, have to say I would probably buy the Lyriq over the RZ. love the stylish looks and the interior design..
I have the Cadillac Lyriq and I love the car. I’m surprised that you didn’t see the uneven gaps in the right side hatch. I had my car serviced and was given a Lyriq loaner which had the same problem. It doesn’t hinder the door from closing, but it is quite noticeable. I also had problems with tray drawer in the console constantly popping out, something which the service department could not resolve. The rear HVAC vents were also not working, but this was resolved by the service department. Other than that the car gives me almost 400 miles on a full charge which is true if I don’t turn on the AC. This car is a leap forward for Cadillac! Can’t wait for the Escalade EV! Keep up the great work. 😊
how do you feel about Lyriq's charing network and the battery against other EVs, I love the lyriq but worried about how it is battery health wise
My lyriq front camera intermittently turn black. Service dept said it was software related but that is hard to believe.
Is it reliable ? Which year ?
So fortunate to have found your channel. Finally someone that speaks my language for quality and details
Lyriq is one of the best in class EVs you can get. I drove it in 2021 and fell in love
Wow, thank you!
The Lyriq is hands down the better vehicle here. Lexus did a good job separating the RZ from the bZ4x but they could only do so much to polish what is essentially one of the worst EVs on the market.
How
@@avdp9095the 350km is under IDEAL conditions - e.g. no heater use, no excessive speed on the highway etc. The thing is, under IDEAL conditions, the Lyriq will do almost ~500km range, that means you can theoretically drive faster, use the heater etc. and STILL better than RZ 450e in the real world.
@@avdp9095 Well, people argue with me a lot. I've owned GM and also Lexus and can only speak from personal experience. Cadillac is one for two with me. My first one made me swear that I would never buy another but the Lyriq is superior to the Lexus in my book. Lyriq is often compared to the etron but costs about half as much. Is it possible that Lexus is a bit overrated? It sure seems that way, especially considering the pricing.
The Lyriq is not just GM. This is join development with Honda. And for the range, size, options also finishing even better than some Germany premium brand EV priced 50% or more.
@@letsgojdm2701 Good points. A good timely effort on the part of all involved.
I saw a lyriq in Oakland on Sunday. Looked very nice in person.
I appreciate the objective review. The only point that I would argue with is all wheel drive. I bought the Lyriq partly because it is rear wheel drive with fewer components, lighter, and better range. My early Tesla was rear wheel drive and I later traded up and found that all Gen 2 Model S's were all wheel drive creating reliability concerns. Granted I live in a warm climate where all wheel drive is not a necessity and generally like rear wheel drive better. My Lyriq is high end with everything else on board. There is a 2k difference in the price for all wheel drive on Lyriq which I opted out of.
Great unbiased review. I also would take the Lyriq
Do that gap comparison on a Range Rover then compare it with the RR reliability.
Great unbiased assessment. Its clear that Cadillac is kicking it up several notches to compete in this segment. From what I've seen, they are going for dominance. I would never buy an escalade. But their 4 door sedans offer some world class.performance
Love my Lyriq. Fantastic driving experience. The only downside is rear view visibility.
LYRIQ has a review mirror camera
We opted for a Luxury 3 Lyriq in order to get both super cruise and rear view mirror camera options. I haven't had any issues with the car yet. The design and workmanship is first rate and user friendly. The metallic paint is absolutely high end and stunning but also extra. There is a $7500 rebate and GM allows an extra $500 for all veterans so we went a bit higher in price to get what we wanted. The base price is quite reasonable but not equipped like a Cadillac it seems.
Excellent review! Did you have a chance to compare the sound systems for sound quality and functionality? Many people listen to music and podcasts. Thanks!
I am a Toyota freak and absolutely love our Lyriq.
Normally I would pick anything Lexus over Cadillac, but in this case the Lyriq hands down wins over the RZ simply because it is such a more advanced EV from the ground up.
In its early days, Lexus was way better quality than any GM car but a lot has changed. I wouldn't own another Lexus in today's market.
Lexus cars are all too soft and boring. Lexus has nothing half as fun to drive as a V series Caddy.
Hey David, that was honest comparison analysis. I will lean towards the Lexus RZ because of Long term reliability and resale value.
RZ sucks therefore resale value will suck. It seems Toyota can screw on wheels correctly an EV.
With EVs reliability goes up in general regardless of brand. No transmission, simple electric motor, brakes last a long time, radiator flushes every 200k miles.
I love Lexus product but the range 225 mile is horrible.
I'd lease the Lyriq and buy the Lexus once the range is better. The Lexus just doesn't offer enough at this time.
Great review, I would choose the Lyriq
David, you state at 12:30 that the 33" screen is obviously a number of panel put together but if you had done your research you would have known that the 33" screen is one continuous panel and NOT several put together. Great review though otherwise.
David, love you analysis of the EV’s. I own a 24 Solterra Limited. Love the car. Range serves my needs well. Would love to see a factory tour of the Solterra and a motor assembly of the Solterra. Could you share a deep dive of the Solterra battery and potential software updates for battery management improvements? Thanks for the great content.
Love your approach - thank you!
Excellent video! I wish you were helping out Tesla with their build quality.
19:48 The DavidScores.😉
I've owned 2 Teslas and now drive a Lyriq which is a more refined car. Tesla may have been first but the big boys have caught up!
Great job and you are fair. Thank you.
This Lyriq may look better than this particular Lexus, but the key takeaway for me is reliability and service. For that reason, I'd go with Lexus..just not this one
Very helpful review!!!! Thanks!
Well done, David. Hadn't tested both as yet. Will rewatch your video once I have my hands on one. From Sammy Chan.
Thanks for watching my videos Sammy! Great to hear from you!
I like your reviews. Could you add some data for Americans as well? For example, pricing in US $ as well as Canadian $ -- and the price difference is often not simply the exchange rate because some like Honda and Tesla are far more expensive in Canada than in the US than mere exchange rate would predict.
Lyric hands down better
Excellent evaluation!
This video is an important for UAW with high quality built. The push button switches for the doors should have been prohibited for violation of two faults safety requirement. (One 12V battery cable came out or 12V battery itself fail all the doors cannot open from inside.) EVs are much less complications than ICE vehicle therefore; they both should have the same reliability. But you can easily fix the battery on Lyriq. The question is this Lexus actually has BYD battery or not. If not I would say Lyriq is much better in term of longevity because you can easily fix the battery on Lyriq. (Electric motor will last for millions of miles but the battery will not)
The RZ hood was repainted
Thank you for your informative video always.. Much appreciated. I have a question. I want to buy a hybrid car. The problem is that I often have to leave my car in my garage for 2-4 weeks for my business trip. Will it be ok to leave a hybrid car in the garage without driving for 2-4 weeks? I worry about the battery of the hybrid car or EV if I don't drive for such long time. Your knowledge will be highly appreciated.. Thank you.
If the high voltage battery is nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) battery it can be a problem, for Lithium-ion battery it's not that much of a problem. The reason is lithium ion batteries have very low self-discharge rate.
So it's worthwhile to pay a bit of attention to that area, a lot of hybrids use NiMH batteries.
@@holmiumh Thank you for your reply..
David remains unbiased on engineering terms. But his bias shines out on other criteria. I find that his preferred driving feel is the opposite of what I prefer. Drive both cars and also test drive a Tesla Model 3 and Y.
Great assessment but neither charge as fast as they should. 23:11
Yes, the question of road trips was not mentioned. It's nice to see a review that gives these cars credit for their strengths. But I guess he's just figuring that most people have already heard about the down sides.
In case anyone hasn't already heard, the most important factor in determining how quickly you can complete a road trip is the charging curve. This is a major weak point for both of these cars. In general, if timely road trips are important to you, the best EV will be a Tesla.
For the daily commute or driving around town, the Cadillac and Lexus are both great.
@@davidmenasco5743 I only disagree with your use of the word Tesla. Wide spread single branded experience yes but those red dots comprise of many versions Tesla has moved on from, can still charge you but not as quickly. This is befitting of slow charging EV’s to adopt while others Tesla owners tolerate or have purchased CC2 adapters to charge at EA’s when they’re quicker with no V3’s available. That’s because Version 2’s derate Tesla’s to 40kW on warmer days not being liquid cooled. Tesla themselves are building their next Version 4 (3’s will have to be upgraded to reach their next generation EV’s) which is their silent admission of choosing too low a voltage a decade ago and being too slow to mature past that. Elon said 800V would boil the batteries at battery day a few years ago while he was configuring upcoming chargers to do just that at the more transmission efficient higher voltages. I’m looking forward to Tesla’s having as many kWh under the charging curve as my 70%SOC in 17 min and 82% in 22 minutes. According to my personal stats however the majority of my charging is at home. Those swift juice ups are nice on the occasional trips we take. If you’re forever on the road then the Tesla set of jelly beans are the best choice for ease and simplicity. Just choose a color or size and if you do choose V3’s over the V2’s Superchargers that Tesla’s UI seems to always guiding you to. Version 3 sites will yield the best experience for your choice unless they down for the hardware upgrade. Hope the remaining summer goes great. See you in the future. 😎
Battery tech is still advancing. Charge times are bound to come down. The question is when.
To me, it is all about Lexus quality.
The Cadillac look,s so much better, but I’d still buy the Lexus, cause I drive a Lexus 4 years now and I’ve had zilch problems, and it drives the same it did the day I bought it, now that’s quality.
Well, in terms of looks the Lyriq wins hands down. I also can't wait to see how he reacts to the Lyriq's charge port door, which opens a bit wanky.
Tried to be unbiased but clearly an unconscious bias for Lexus. Sorry Lyriq wins this hands down.
i was thinking the same. gotta justify that lexus purchase somehow.
For years it was Lexus. Cadillac has finally caught on. Lyriq is clearly a winner.
The lexus looks ugly
EXACTLY but people seemingly always tend have personal issues with American Products...quality or otherwise overall design. Kinda like an ULGY WOMEN with great qualities and overall good design dynamics
@@henrinevermind1695 yeah most people want reliability and that's where lexus shines
@@star1355Japanese automakers have really hung their hats on quality. The problem is EVs level the playing field a lot. EVs by their nature are going to be more reliable. GM can focus on fit and finish, because the battery and drivetrain are shared with many other vehicles. The Lyriq rear drivetrain is the Hummers front drivetrain. And the Blazer EV and Lyriq use the same drivetrain.
I’m a Lexus owner/ fanboy, and your are right it looks crap
@@henrinevermind1695American cars look great but have tons of issues. Japanese cars have better reliability (non-Nissan), but look boring AF.
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My major issues with the Lyriq, Extremely short bench on the seat! Terrible for a taller driver.
Not everyone is 5’ 8”. The display is dim in normal daylight, even with settings at maximum.
Lexus is much better carmaker, but RZ is garbage.
Can’t agree more, if the RZ offers 300 miles range, I will be the first one in line with a check book.
@@naveenthemachine while you have your crystal ball handy, can you tell me what the S&P will do tomorrow? I wouldn’t worry about Toyota or Lexus exist or not. Got bigger fish to fry.
It’s not even close. The lyriq lol
The Lexus is totally ugly.
The lexus looks cheap as hell. Toyota level not lexus. That car should have never made it out to showroom, the lyric looks waayyyyyyy better than that toyota… i mean lexus. I own two lexus and they look way better than that thing named RZ.
Lexus always ❤
I feel the need to provide a reality check. Paint thickness and panel gap isn't very important these days. Maybe it was in the 50's & 60's but all manufacturers do a pretty good job at this. I guess it gives you your own little niche in car reviews. You're testing 2 EV's and offer no info on the range, battery capacity, or charging rate among others. This info is way more important than panel gaps and paint thickness. You mention that the Lyric has more capabilities but don't say what they are.
Very biased towards the Lexus
You are comparing apples to oranges! No way would I buy a GM over a Toyota/Lexus, EVER!
So by **your** definition, what is an "apples to apples" comparison to the Lexus?
I think he's more of an expert than you are...and he's not biased. He calls a spade a spade.
@@HDHQDIRECTa shovel a shovel 😂😂
Must sting that the days of Lexus "superiority" are over. Lol
@@HDHQDIRECTagreed. It seems like he owns the Lexus too. So if anything he’d be biased towards the Lexus.
I will wait til the range is 1000+ mi until I buy an EV.
What ICE powered vehicle do you own that has a 1000-mile range?
@@TJDST4 ICE vehicle have essentially unlimited range given that that you can easily get gas anywhere anytime in less than 10 minutes (don't count costco gas).
1000+ mile range will go a long way in convincing everyone. I'm waiting this out until everything is settled in the next few years.
@@Quangus1 Unless your ICE vehicle is diesel and someone in gas car is "in your spot", or your ICE vehicle requires 91+ octane gas. But those are only "fringe" cases, right?
The charging curve is much more important than range when driving distances in an EV.
Within the decade, charging speeds will approach the speed of refilling ICE cars.
As charging speeds increase, the need for large, costly batteries will decrease.
Comparison? We see what David bought.
Wrong choice
@@brotherdaveseattle2791 LOL
Both are extremely unattractive. Toyota in general seems to be slipping as far as build quality also.
A Caddy.. yuk!! Had the misfortune of owning a 2019 Escalade ESV ( premium luxury trim ) and while it looked boss, pulled like a freight train, and the ride was better than my current SUV ( Lexus GX 460 ) .. the ghost rattles, issues with cylinder deactivation ( ugh!!! ) malfunctioning audio and the absolutely trash touch buttons would deter me from recommending a Caddy to anyone!
The last GM car that my family owned was a '69 Cadillac El Dorado. A beautiful car, but had serious trasmission problems. We bought a '71 Lincoln Continental Mk III after that, beautiful styling, but still unreliable.
@dtna that was 50 years ago...
I won’t be buying an EV when there is a chance it will burn my house down when parked in the garage
You must not own a gas powered car either then.
@@TJDST4😂😂
You know, an ICE car is simply a Molotov cocktail on wheels.
And note, several hundred people per year die when their ICE car auto-starts in a closed garage that's attached to their bedroom. Even when separated by a wall, those fumes are still deadly.
And don't forget the lower center of gravity, and the quicker acceleration.
All in all, the EV is much safer than the ICE car.
I'm curious about reliability...I'll praise GM "Garbage Motors" if that really powerful battery lives after 3 years for owners. Toyota/Lexus claim 90% battery lifespan retention after 5 years. 307-312 miles for the Lyriq with a 100+ KWh...we'll see how it does after 36K miles and also the depreciation.