Your diction, your knowledge, your delivery -- all of that and more ... nothing short of excellence! Thank you for posting this most interesting and educative video!
I love the way the speaker uses his lively hands during his lecture. This is very Italian for him to do so -- and appropriately so at that! After-all, this is a serious discussion on Italian Florence ... (smiling). Of course, my comment is made with respectful affection and admiration for this marvellous lecturer ... loved it!
This is incredibly thorough and knowledgable! I have used your video as a revision source and have found it incredibly helpful. Thank you very much for publishing.
15th century Italy,better defined as autonomous regions,mini states feudalistic often at war with one and other but also mercantile ,sharing ideas in and of art including as you say it ,humanism. really enjoyed that thank you.
Savonarola made two bad decisions: 1) doing whatever lead to him being burned at the stake. 2) choosing the profile format instead of portrait when being painted.
today's sacred music vs renaissance secular music When we compare that ,we can easily see where we are today , we are at lowest point in history in intellect , emotions , body and spirit . That's just one example , there are many others :)
+Kevin Murphy If you check Kenneth Scott Latourette (A History of Christianity) and especially the sources he cites on the career of Giovanni de Medici, I think you'll find helpful information responsive to your questions.
Great lecture. High-information, lucidly presented. One criticism: Gore uses the term "monk" to identify Catholic clergy of any variety. E.g., he says that Savonarola was a "Dominican monk." There is no such animal. Dominicans are canons regular, a technical term that could confuse listeners. It would be enough to identify Savonarola as a priest who belonged to the religious order that is the Dominicans, the informal name of the Order of Preachers (Ordo Praedicatorum). That flyspeck aside, though, this lecture is excellent. Thank you.
To Bruce Gore, I watched this a few months ago, but I had to watch it again today. I was watching the series on the Medici (I think it's from PBS) They, of course, painted Savonarola in quite a negative light, and I didn't remember all of what you said about him. I do have a question though, in that series they state that Savonarola refused to give Lorenzo the desired absolution. Do you know if this is true? I just wondered if that was said for dramatic effect of not. Thanks for all you do!
Savanarola appeared at the death bed of Lorenzo, and offered absolution based on Lorenzo meeting three conditions: 1) that he confess strong faith in God's mercy; 2) that he restore ill-gotten wealth or charge his sons to do it; and 3) that he give the Florentines back their liberties. Lorenzo consented to the first two, but reportedly to the third he gave no response. Savanarola withdrew, and Lorenzo died a few hours later.
Thank you for the info.... that is certainly different to what was said in the program that I watched. Thank you so much for making all of these videos, I have learned so much through you! I can't wait for more of the philosophy studies to be posted!
Your information is truly well distilled and put over succinctly. However you should check with other sources your pronunciation of some terms, particularly Renaissance and Medici. I know you are American but I believe in the English language the pronunciation is pretty well settled
We don't, but marriage of women in their mid-teens was common in ancient Israel, and marriage by the time a young women reached the age of 20 was virtually universal.
I was surprised by Machiavelli's involvement with Savonarola. The Papacy was making itself look silly. Pope Julius II is to come, giving source material the Erasmian farcical work, "Julius Exclusus".
Pretty strange remark to say that a persistent belief in pagan goblins who controlled your fate is what made medieval people yearn for humanism. Sources?
Okay, I have just completed my listening to this entire historical lecture. The "history" part of the lecture I like... I like very much in fact . .. however, at the end, quoting a passage from Revelations as though it were a source of "historical truth" and "logic" and "fact" -- forget it, I'm not biting. The Bible, as with other so-called holy books, is too replete with immoralities, nonsense stories, innumerable contradictions, and wild claims, for me to ever take seriously. So I did not like the preaching at the very end. All that being said, I thought the speaker was utterly interesting and fascinating -- until his closing and highly subjective interpretation of that passage he read from the Book of Revelations. It flies in the face of my Agnosticism and Skepticism.
Your diction, your knowledge, your delivery -- all of that and more ... nothing short of excellence! Thank you for posting this most interesting and educative video!
Your kind feedback is deeply appreciated. Thank you!
I love the way the speaker uses his lively hands during his lecture. This is very Italian for him to do so -- and appropriately so at that! After-all, this is a serious discussion on Italian Florence ... (smiling). Of course, my comment is made with respectful affection and admiration for this marvellous lecturer ... loved it!
Powerful man of God teaching these history lessons!!!!
He's absolutely clueless
@@dissenter-1632 ????? Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft! 1 Samuel 15:23
@@dissenter-1632 no body who's actually watched all 18 lectures prior to this could honestly come to this conclusion.
We hear so little of Savonarola. Such great information!
Amazing session...
Yea the mighty 2 edged sword of the gospel, to cut a swathe through falsehood and unbelief.
This is incredibly thorough and knowledgable! I have used your video as a revision source and have found it incredibly helpful. Thank you very much for publishing.
Fantasic! Thank You so much!
15th century Italy,better defined as autonomous regions,mini states feudalistic often at war with one and other but also mercantile ,sharing ideas in and of art including as you say it ,humanism. really enjoyed that thank you.
Very good I enjoyed that
Savonarola made two bad decisions:
1) doing whatever lead to him being burned at the stake.
2) choosing the profile format instead of portrait when being painted.
Great video. Stayed inside the Ponte Vecchio a few days ago. Love Florence very much.
Yep...pretty much my favorite place in the world!
today's sacred music vs renaissance secular music
When we compare that ,we can easily see where we are today , we are at lowest point in history in intellect , emotions , body and spirit .
That's just one example , there are many others :)
Without a question it appears that way to us, though I’m not sure that we are really in a worse condition than the dark ages
This was super interesting but the repeated mispronunciation of Savonarola grated a lot for me.
Yeah, sorry about that. The error has been pointed out many times (see below). My apologies to Savonarola.
This guy's great
Wasn’t it Botticelli who grew up with the Medici and Michelangelo joined the academy later?
Yes, it was Botticelli who grew up with the Medici.
Brilliant as always!
Thank you!
Is there any classic studies or biographies on Giovanni de Medici that you would recommend? His meteoric rise raises suspicions to my judgement!
+Kevin Murphy If you check Kenneth Scott Latourette (A History of Christianity) and especially the sources he cites on the career of Giovanni de Medici, I think you'll find helpful information responsive to your questions.
Giovanni di bicci was not born into poverty, his cousin Vieri was a banker in the vatican. where giovanni lerned this work
Great lecture. High-information, lucidly presented. One criticism: Gore uses the term "monk" to identify Catholic clergy of any variety. E.g., he says that Savonarola was a "Dominican monk." There is no such animal.
Dominicans are canons regular, a technical term that could confuse listeners. It would be enough to identify Savonarola as a priest who belonged to the religious order that is the Dominicans, the informal name of the Order of Preachers (Ordo Praedicatorum). That flyspeck aside, though, this lecture is excellent. Thank you.
Thanks for clarifying!
@39:56
Savonarola? More like SAVAGErola.
Where is that picture from in 10:14? I know Christ
46:10 - END 🙏🏽⭐️
To Bruce Gore, I watched this a few months ago, but I had to watch it again today. I was watching the series on the Medici (I think it's from PBS) They, of course, painted Savonarola in quite a negative light, and I didn't remember all of what you said about him. I do have a question though, in that series they state that Savonarola refused to give Lorenzo the desired absolution. Do you know if this is true? I just wondered if that was said for dramatic effect of not. Thanks for all you do!
Savanarola appeared at the death bed of Lorenzo, and offered absolution based on Lorenzo meeting three conditions: 1) that he confess strong faith in God's mercy; 2) that he restore ill-gotten wealth or charge his sons to do it; and 3) that he give the Florentines back their liberties. Lorenzo consented to the first two, but reportedly to the third he gave no response. Savanarola withdrew, and Lorenzo died a few hours later.
Thank you for the info.... that is certainly different to what was said in the program that I watched. Thank you so much for making all of these videos, I have learned so much through you! I can't wait for more of the philosophy studies to be posted!
@@deetsy4jesus
Of course you would and should take anything on PBS that deals with Jesus and His followers with a heavy grain of salt.
Lorenzo the Magnificent had 2 sons and his adopted nephew. You merely mentioned Piero as an after thought and not as Lorenzo's son and heir.
Thanks for the clarification.
Your information is truly well distilled and put over succinctly.
However you should check with other sources your pronunciation of some terms, particularly Renaissance and Medici.
I know you are American but I believe in the English language the pronunciation is pretty well settled
"--judgement on YOU, judgment on your COW--" --Savanarola, probably
I would love to use these lectures for homeschooling! Do you have these on DVD I could pay you for use?
Please contact me at bruce@brucegore.com. Thanks for your interest!
Yes it's good, well done, helpful, thank You
He keeps saying the name Savonarola wrong, but apart from that very educational!
Yes, I noticed that myself eventually. Embarrassing, but there it is! Thanks for your interest.
No worries, enjoying your videos very much!
How do we know Mary was 16 years old?
We don't, but marriage of women in their mid-teens was common in ancient Israel, and marriage by the time a young women reached the age of 20 was virtually universal.
I was surprised by Machiavelli's involvement with Savonarola. The Papacy was making itself look silly. Pope Julius II is to come, giving source material the Erasmian farcical work, "Julius Exclusus".
Though Machiavelli is most famous for 'The Prince,' he favored republican governance, as did Savonarola.
Macchiavelo didn't have such power AT ALL. Just a high ranking clerk
missing some vital details, the unspoken rules of class, from the bottom up.
Sa-vo-na-ro-la
sorry i best watch the last one.hehe
Pretty strange remark to say that a persistent belief in pagan goblins who controlled your fate is what made medieval people yearn for humanism. Sources?
So confusing with Pope John XXIII in the 1400s and Pope John XXIII in 1958
Omg it's Savonarola not Savoranola
Yes, thank you for joining several others who had pointed out my slip of the tongue. Apologies to the great reformer.
Savonarola
Banco=bench
Okay, I have just completed my listening to this entire historical lecture. The "history" part of the lecture I like... I like very much in fact . .. however, at the end, quoting a passage from Revelations as though it were a source of "historical truth" and "logic" and "fact" -- forget it, I'm not biting. The Bible, as with other so-called holy books, is too replete with immoralities, nonsense stories, innumerable contradictions, and wild claims, for me to ever take seriously. So I did not like the preaching at the very end. All that being said, I thought the speaker was utterly interesting and fascinating -- until his closing and highly subjective interpretation of that passage he read from the Book of Revelations. It flies in the face of my Agnosticism and Skepticism.