Wait, what! Why interlocking Bowlines 😅? Standard Bowlines are known to be rather weak 🥲. Are they joining 2 ropes? The Double Fisherman's bend would be standard. Otherwise, Figure 8 bend. Joining 2 loops, then, interlock Figure 8 loops. Those would give 80% efficiency. My fav, Reever bend might be overkill. But not Bowlines! 🥲
What are you talking about? Figure 8 bend, join two loops, then interlocking F8 loops? What does that mean? Interlocking long tail bowlines are perfectly safe. A person will be tied into the end of the long tails, so there is no risk of the bowling becoming untied or slipping.
No risk of slip or untie on a bowline, lolzs! So, interlocking 2 Figure 8 loops is that difficult to understand, need a picture? Whether interlocked long tail bowline or other bowlines, I’ll send a pic of a flower bouquet to your grave when your perfectly safe bowline snaps or breaks!
@@KeepItSwift it is impossible for a bowline to untie if someone is tied into the tail. You can't tie into the tails of a figure 8, interlocked or not, the F8 is not designed to be loaded that way. Where did you learn to tie anything, you're not even making sense. Rescue teams all over the world use interlocking bowlines and tie into the tails. Do you think it would be used if it was unsafe, but what you are proposing is Ludacris. Learn a few things before you start criticizing other peoples videos.
@skydiverbc I'll be the adult here and end this properly. My first comment was asking about the purpose of interlocking Bowlines. While I thought they were just connecting ropes (making a bend), after a few search, actually, it is part of a 2 rope system used in rescue ops, where the tails of the Bowlines will also be holding load. That little I know now. Furthermore, knowing that a knot along a rope weakens the rope (about 65% rope strength left after a Bowline), knowing the Sheetbend/Bowline structure family (readily available over the net), where the Bowline is not the best for crossloading, but yet simply compensating this by using 2 ropes and modern rope technology. Yes, the very famous Bowline is quick and easy, can be tied using 1 hand, the favorite knot of sailors, bushcraft, etc, promoted for self-rescue across many platforms (scouts, army, etc). However, we have proper documentation now, we have better knowledge of knots now, especially when life is on the line. Do climbers still use the Bowline nowadays, I don't think so. Mountaineers use the Figure 8 family and Butterfly knots in many configurations. Can the Figure 8 be used this way (which you disapprove), I need to dig deeper into this. On the other hand, interlocked Butterfly loops will definitely outperform interlocked Bowlines for this same operation. Rescue teams are probably well equipped with heavy-duty accessories, making this 2 rope system obsolete. For someone who knows only Bowline, the Bowline stays king, then I would be a kingslayer. I will probably edit my 1st and 2nd comment later to reflect more about proper alternatives, since it's not about rope bends.
@@KeepItSwift This is certainly a lot of words, again with limited knowledge of rescue systems used today. I find it interesting that you claim to be superior by claiming to be the adult here, but fail to read my first comment that explained why the Bowline was perfectly safe. Most concerning is your last comment that two rope systems are obsolete. Why do you keep trying to speak as though you know how rescue systems are constructed? Redundancy is a foundation of rope rescue systems. The need for two ropes is almost universally accepted as standard in professional rope rescue, yet you seem to think is obsolete? I also explained in my first comment that the tails would be loaded, but you failed to read my first comment or were unable to understand it. I agree that interlocking alpine butterfly's would work very well, but tying one in an interlocking application would be more difficult than the bowlines, and slower. Its possible to use a snap bowline to interlock the bowlines and that speeds up tying considerably. As you can appreciate, efficiency is very important during a rescue. Lots of climbers use a bowline, but often with a "Yosemite Finish" that locks the tail to prevent slipping. If I use a bowline for other applications, I will add a double overhand onto the loop using the tail to prevent slipping. The bowline is plenty strong enough, remains easy to untie after heavy loading, is easily interlocked, and it is easy to add a safety to secure the tail to prevent slipping when cycle loaded or ring loaded. When you say "Figure 8 Bends" do you mean a bend in the rope which is known as a "bight", or are you talking about a rope "bend" which in the knot/ropes vernacular, means "to tie the ends of two ropes together". So a Figure Eight Bend is tying two ropes together using a figure eight and the ends of two ropes in order to make a longer rope. Maybe this lack of knowledge is why your posts are so confusing. I am tired of trying to explain all of this to you, you seem to have little interest in learning about rope rescue systems and it is very obvious you have little knowledge in rope rescue systems in general. My primary goal is to ensure anyone reading your comments understands that you are not a reliable source for information and I believe I have achieved that goal. Please be careful out there.
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Wait, what! Why interlocking Bowlines 😅? Standard Bowlines are known to be rather weak 🥲.
Are they joining 2 ropes? The Double Fisherman's bend would be standard. Otherwise, Figure 8 bend. Joining 2 loops, then, interlock Figure 8 loops. Those would give 80% efficiency. My fav, Reever bend might be overkill. But not Bowlines! 🥲
What are you talking about? Figure 8 bend, join two loops, then interlocking F8 loops? What does that mean? Interlocking long tail bowlines are perfectly safe. A person will be tied into the end of the long tails, so there is no risk of the bowling becoming untied or slipping.
No risk of slip or untie on a bowline, lolzs! So, interlocking 2 Figure 8 loops is that difficult to understand, need a picture? Whether interlocked long tail bowline or other bowlines, I’ll send a pic of a flower bouquet to your grave when your perfectly safe bowline snaps or breaks!
@@KeepItSwift it is impossible for a bowline to untie if someone is tied into the tail. You can't tie into the tails of a figure 8, interlocked or not, the F8 is not designed to be loaded that way. Where did you learn to tie anything, you're not even making sense. Rescue teams all over the world use interlocking bowlines and tie into the tails. Do you think it would be used if it was unsafe, but what you are proposing is Ludacris. Learn a few things before you start criticizing other peoples videos.
@skydiverbc I'll be the adult here and end this properly. My first comment was asking about the purpose of interlocking Bowlines. While I thought they were just connecting ropes (making a bend), after a few search, actually, it is part of a 2 rope system used in rescue ops, where the tails of the Bowlines will also be holding load. That little I know now. Furthermore, knowing that a knot along a rope weakens the rope (about 65% rope strength left after a Bowline), knowing the Sheetbend/Bowline structure family (readily available over the net), where the Bowline is not the best for crossloading, but yet simply compensating this by using 2 ropes and modern rope technology. Yes, the very famous Bowline is quick and easy, can be tied using 1 hand, the favorite knot of sailors, bushcraft, etc, promoted for self-rescue across many platforms (scouts, army, etc). However, we have proper documentation now, we have better knowledge of knots now, especially when life is on the line. Do climbers still use the Bowline nowadays, I don't think so. Mountaineers use the Figure 8 family and Butterfly knots in many configurations. Can the Figure 8 be used this way (which you disapprove), I need to dig deeper into this. On the other hand, interlocked Butterfly loops will definitely outperform interlocked Bowlines for this same operation. Rescue teams are probably well equipped with heavy-duty accessories, making this 2 rope system obsolete. For someone who knows only Bowline, the Bowline stays king, then I would be a kingslayer. I will probably edit my 1st and 2nd comment later to reflect more about proper alternatives, since it's not about rope bends.
@@KeepItSwift This is certainly a lot of words, again with limited knowledge of rescue systems used today. I find it interesting that you claim to be superior by claiming to be the adult here, but fail to read my first comment that explained why the Bowline was perfectly safe. Most concerning is your last comment that two rope systems are obsolete. Why do you keep trying to speak as though you know how rescue systems are constructed? Redundancy is a foundation of rope rescue systems. The need for two ropes is almost universally accepted as standard in professional rope rescue, yet you seem to think is obsolete? I also explained in my first comment that the tails would be loaded, but you failed to read my first comment or were unable to understand it. I agree that interlocking alpine butterfly's would work very well, but tying one in an interlocking application would be more difficult than the bowlines, and slower. Its possible to use a snap bowline to interlock the bowlines and that speeds up tying considerably. As you can appreciate, efficiency is very important during a rescue.
Lots of climbers use a bowline, but often with a "Yosemite Finish" that locks the tail to prevent slipping. If I use a bowline for other applications, I will add a double overhand onto the loop using the tail to prevent slipping. The bowline is plenty strong enough, remains easy to untie after heavy loading, is easily interlocked, and it is easy to add a safety to secure the tail to prevent slipping when cycle loaded or ring loaded.
When you say "Figure 8 Bends" do you mean a bend in the rope which is known as a "bight", or are you talking about a rope "bend" which in the knot/ropes vernacular, means "to tie the ends of two ropes together". So a Figure Eight Bend is tying two ropes together using a figure eight and the ends of two ropes in order to make a longer rope. Maybe this lack of knowledge is why your posts are so confusing.
I am tired of trying to explain all of this to you, you seem to have little interest in learning about rope rescue systems and it is very obvious you have little knowledge in rope rescue systems in general. My primary goal is to ensure anyone reading your comments understands that you are not a reliable source for information and I believe I have achieved that goal.
Please be careful out there.