I like the fact that they don't have negative resistance because there are limitless way to train with negative resistance. I can actually use this in between regular weight training to minimize injuries.
@@derm75 That's not true. When you release the cable on one of those machines and if you don't resist, the cable would fly back. That's negative resistance. Whether it's as good as free weights is debatable, but those cable machines do have negative resistance. Not so for the MaxPro. I've tried it, when you pull, you will feel the resistance. Once you stop, there's no force pulling you back. It's a weird feeling, but I do have a feeling that it could be easier for the joints. Personally, I wouldn't use it as the main training equipment, but it may be useful if you use it between two days of free weights.
It's better than dumbells because it's portable. 300lbs of dumbells aren't. I'm 52 and have lifted every year since the age of 21. And, even without negative resistance, you reach muscle failure.
Thank you for that comment in your review about about no felt weight going back down. I feel that both positive and negative phases of movement are necessary for a more complete workout. I think I'll just stick with my resistance bands for travel (they can provide both pos and neg phases while being portable and light).
@@millmassive I have an old pair of Reebok triple-braided bands. Yes, they can build muscle, they provide crazy amounts of resistance. Though I will always prefer free-weights when I can (doing squats with heavy bands gets awkward fast).
@@millmassive I would recommend them, but I don't know if they are still being sold. I got lucky years ago and bought them at like Ross or Marshalls. Amazon does have some good options for triple-braided bands, I just don't have personal experience with them.
That was really helpful, man. I agree with you: it has its use but does not quite replace dumbbells. Resistance in the downward motion is also required to build muscles. This is definitely a good alternative when traveling, as you said. Good job, thanks for the video.
@@stoppernz229 In swimming you maintain tension as the water causing resistance is most of the time all around. Both positive and negative will build muscle a lot faster. Especially negative, but anyways, as a travel tool, this does build everything else. For home, not having the negative is a bug downside, but still better than not working out
@@SimpleAndyRock You do not maintain tension when swimming..... anyway keep my first comment in context.... I replied to someone who said you absolutely need negative reps to build muscle , you do not, it is false. Negatives reps are good, have many good benefits but that's NOT what we're talking about, not what my comment was about.
@@stoppernz229 you don't consciously maintain tension but subconsciously you do. Because water itself is a force of resistance. But anyways, I did agree you can still gain muscle without negative resistance. Just less, however. I may still get this thing as it looks killer for travel.
Another reason there isn't resistance going down must be for safety. That way if you accidentally step off while during a heavy squat, the machine does not snap up at your body/face or something. This shouldn't happen with proper usage, but this prevents dangerous accidents that would have inevitably happened if there was resistance in both directions. I think the wheel resistance system makes it hard to create exact resistance so they put generic numbers on the dials instead of actual resistance weights because it will differ from unit to unit. I'm not sure yet, but resistance could also change over time... they machines actually get smoother with use but are a bit "bumpy" to begin with, which the company warns about in their instructions
Max Pro didn't "leave out" negative resistance; it requires an entirely different technology. Cables've been in common use since Universal's multi-exercise machine in '57. Resistance in both directions w/virtually no injurious accidents in 64yrs.
@@jacobperry3129 I don’t see any such videos w/a universal multi. Even if there are, “virtually no” = no meaningful #: If you found a dozen, factored into 100s of 1,000s of sessions in 64yrs: virtually none.
You mention no negative resistance, an aspect of isokinetics. Another characteristic: The faster you pull, the harder you need to pull. A very slow pull'd barely be resisted, if at all. Would you say that this is the case with Max Pro?
I think if they would've added the eccentric resistance into this machine, then this would reach a much greater market as far as sales. I wonder in 5 or so years if this company will upgrade this device by including eccentric resistance? I hope so.
Yea I think the technology is not quite there yet. But I've used the Max Pro every single day for 11 months and I've got some great results from it. Definitely an A+ product for its size and portability.
@@selfhelp9175 so what has your experience been like with using this machine? How do you put on muscle size, and achieve hypertrophy with this? Are the cables easy to replace if needed? I've been looking into getting a home gym...Tonal, Speediance, or Vitruvian...all these are A.I. powered but not portable. Of course maxpro is an option as well.
@@kriskarl1333 just watch my videos. I personally bodybuild with the Max Pro with a sandbag everyday. It definitely builds muscle but there's an adjustment period in the beginning. Hope this helps.
No I didn’t get it. The wall track system is awesome but it’s not exactly portable. I want everything to fit inside my backpack. Hence why I didn’t get it.
Hello. I'm very interested in the Max Pro Portable Gym. I understand that is not what your channel is all about, but you do mention this product often. That being said, how is the strength of the product when attached to the door AND the resistance is high (above the 20 dial). I've been trying to research videos of this example, but most don't show or talk about the resistance set during the exercise example they present. The reason for my interest is to see if the damage can occur easily to the product.
That fact the the negative doesn't exist is concerning and a reason I won't look into this thing. The last video I watched never mentioned it. I can see its usefulness but it's not going to replace much.
does the "dial in" resistance weight exactly match the the weight of dumbells? does the resistance clutch wear out with use? does it provide the sam resistance going up and going down, the positive and the negative?
Contact them.about the rubber grip part coming off. They know this and will help fix it. Also there was a issue with bar bending for some on early models shipped. So if that happens, they will work to fix the issue.
Hey, Dude! I'm from Korea! I'm also thinking about whether to buy this product, but there is no review of this product in Korea yet, so I'd like to ask you some questions! What is the resistance in the eccentric contraction process? For example, when I do bench press using Maxpro, can I get the exact resistance in the direction of gravity after pushing up the handle? In other words, can I get an exercise effect in the process of stretching my chest muscles? Or is the functional effect of Maxpro great even if it is impossible? I used a translator because I am not good at English. But please answer me. Thank you!
Can you please tell me where you purchased your one from? I purchased one through a certain site and I received something completely different and rubbish. It was a fraudulent site.
Yes. There is a 3 day break in period. After that, You will need to recalibrate it to make sure both sides have equal amount of resistance. But even with perfect resistance. There is 2 movements that are always choppy. They are barbell squats and barbell bicep curls. Hope this helps.
Look everyone a portable gym that can fit in a backpack. It is almost useless unless you also have an adjustable bench in your backpack as well though.... Your kidding me right?
The bands are pretty solid actually. You only need to change them 1-2 years depending on usage. I've been doing some pretty solid lifting with these for a whole year with no problems. Hope this helps.
@@selfhelp9175 there are two versions. One has bluetooth and it's more expensive. I'm not even sure what the point of the bluetooth is, maybe classes or something. Though I believe the non-bluetooth price has increased a little bit
@Dermot McNeill Unless gravity does not exist in your gym, what you say is untrue. The cable is attached to the weight stack. It has to provide resistance as you perform the eccentric portion of the movement.
The negative portion of the rep is so important for building muscle mass.
Nothing beats free weights
The cable machine in the gym offers no resistance on the negative...
@@derm75 there is something called eccentric contraction which also builds muscle
I like the fact that they don't have negative resistance because there are limitless way to train with negative resistance. I can actually use this in between regular weight training to minimize injuries.
@@derm75 That's not true. When you release the cable on one of those machines and if you don't resist, the cable would fly back. That's negative resistance. Whether it's as good as free weights is debatable, but those cable machines do have negative resistance. Not so for the MaxPro. I've tried it, when you pull, you will feel the resistance. Once you stop, there's no force pulling you back. It's a weird feeling, but I do have a feeling that it could be easier for the joints. Personally, I wouldn't use it as the main training equipment, but it may be useful if you use it between two days of free weights.
🤣😂 the grunting tho! You're a brave dude, mate!
Hahaha
I’m glad you labeled your laundry bag “Laundry”. I’d have been wondering the whole time what that is.
It's better than dumbells because it's portable. 300lbs of dumbells aren't. I'm 52 and have lifted every year since the age of 21. And, even without negative resistance, you reach muscle failure.
not the only reason weights is not good for joints and use alot of energy and easier to get injured
@@cmoneytheman Proper form with weights is actually good for the joints. Watch youtube: Doug Brignole , and Knees Over Toes Guy.
@@lazur1 proper or not weight wear the body down after awile
I think he just means for purely building muscle
Thank you for that comment in your review about about no felt weight going back down. I feel that both positive and negative phases of movement are necessary for a more complete workout. I think I'll just stick with my resistance bands for travel (they can provide both pos and neg phases while being portable and light).
Yes there’s a fitness tool for everybody.
Which bands do you use? Can they build muscle?
@@millmassive I have an old pair of Reebok triple-braided bands. Yes, they can build muscle, they provide crazy amounts of resistance. Though I will always prefer free-weights when I can (doing squats with heavy bands gets awkward fast).
@@bernardmesa thanks! I’ll check them out. It’s good to get a recommendation from a real person!
@@millmassive I would recommend them, but I don't know if they are still being sold. I got lucky years ago and bought them at like Ross or Marshalls. Amazon does have some good options for triple-braided bands, I just don't have personal experience with them.
That was really helpful, man. I agree with you: it has its use but does not quite replace dumbbells. Resistance in the downward motion is also required to build muscles. This is definitely a good alternative when traveling, as you said.
Good job, thanks for the video.
Yes the Max Pro Portable Gym is definitely a really good tool to have when traveling.
That's nonsense, negative reps are not required , they certainly help , but positive only reps will still build muscle. Perfect example is swimming.
@@stoppernz229 In swimming you maintain tension as the water causing resistance is most of the time all around. Both positive and negative will build muscle a lot faster. Especially negative, but anyways, as a travel tool, this does build everything else. For home, not having the negative is a bug downside, but still better than not working out
@@SimpleAndyRock You do not maintain tension when swimming..... anyway keep my first comment in context.... I replied to someone who said you absolutely need negative reps to build muscle , you do not, it is false. Negatives reps are good, have many good benefits but that's NOT what we're talking about, not what my comment was about.
@@stoppernz229 you don't consciously maintain tension but subconsciously you do. Because water itself is a force of resistance. But anyways, I did agree you can still gain muscle without negative resistance. Just less, however. I may still get this thing as it looks killer for travel.
Thank you for the review. just a quick question: Doing Deadlift, how that perform compared with barbells?
Another reason there isn't resistance going down must be for safety. That way if you accidentally step off while during a heavy squat, the machine does not snap up at your body/face or something. This shouldn't happen with proper usage, but this prevents dangerous accidents that would have inevitably happened if there was resistance in both directions.
I think the wheel resistance system makes it hard to create exact resistance so they put generic numbers on the dials instead of actual resistance weights because it will differ from unit to unit. I'm not sure yet, but resistance could also change over time... they machines actually get smoother with use but are a bit "bumpy" to begin with, which the company warns about in their instructions
That is an excellent point!
Max Pro didn't "leave out" negative resistance; it requires an entirely different technology. Cables've been in common use since Universal's multi-exercise machine in '57. Resistance in both directions w/virtually no injurious accidents in 64yrs.
@@lazur1 you’ve never seen those videos of ppl popping thereself in the face and nutts with cables 😂
@@jacobperry3129 I don’t see any such videos w/a universal multi. Even if there are, “virtually no” = no meaningful #: If you found a dozen, factored into 100s of 1,000s of sessions in 64yrs: virtually none.
You mention no negative resistance, an aspect of isokinetics. Another characteristic: The faster you pull, the harder you need to pull. A very slow pull'd barely be resisted, if at all. Would you say that this is the case with Max Pro?
I think if they would've added the eccentric resistance into this machine, then this would reach a much greater market as far as sales. I wonder in 5 or so years if this company will upgrade this device by including eccentric resistance? I hope so.
Yea I think the technology is not quite there yet. But I've used the Max Pro every single day for 11 months and I've got some great results from it. Definitely an A+ product for its size and portability.
@@selfhelp9175 so what has your experience been like with using this machine? How do you put on muscle size, and achieve hypertrophy with this? Are the cables easy to replace if needed? I've been looking into getting a home gym...Tonal, Speediance, or Vitruvian...all these are A.I. powered but not portable. Of course maxpro is an option as well.
@@kriskarl1333 just watch my videos. I personally bodybuild with the Max Pro with a sandbag everyday. It definitely builds muscle but there's an adjustment period in the beginning. Hope this helps.
Did you get the wall track system as well? I think that addition is a game changer.. also regular bench can be used with this?
No I didn’t get it. The wall track system is awesome but it’s not exactly portable. I want everything to fit inside my backpack. Hence why I didn’t get it.
Just got mine I did get the wall track system definitely a game changer
Can someone explain how there is no negative resistance? You pull.. ok. The tension should still be there even after lowering your arm?
Hey Chris, did you eventually get out of NZ?
Hello. I'm very interested in the Max Pro Portable Gym. I understand that is not what your channel is all about, but you do mention this product often. That being said, how is the strength of the product when attached to the door AND the resistance is high (above the 20 dial). I've been trying to research videos of this example, but most don't show or talk about the resistance set during the exercise example they present. The reason for my interest is to see if the damage can occur easily to the product.
Your door frame can handle the force applied to it by the door which results from you pulling on the cables. It's physics. I love my MaxPro.
That fact the the negative doesn't exist is concerning and a reason I won't look into this thing. The last video I watched never mentioned it. I can see its usefulness but it's not going to replace much.
Get an adjustable 1090 and your set. Gym is replaced. Thing is great.
dude i feel honored to be your 3rd sub
does the "dial in" resistance weight exactly match the the weight of dumbells? does the resistance clutch wear out with use? does it provide the sam resistance going up and going down, the positive and the negative?
Hows the condition of the paint now? Would you recommend the sport orange or raw metal (non painted) one?
I purchased the raw metal one, I had a feeling the paint would chip because it’s metal and it moves. I love it.
The reason they don’t have a resistance going down is for joint pain.
The app has the approximate weight for each level.
no negative resistance and while using dumbbells you use more stabilizing muscles so this is definitely out.
Contact them.about the rubber grip part coming off. They know this and will help fix it. Also there was a issue with bar bending for some on early models shipped. So if that happens, they will work to fix the issue.
Hey, Dude!
I'm from Korea!
I'm also thinking about whether to buy this product, but there is no review of this product in Korea yet, so I'd like to ask you some questions!
What is the resistance in the eccentric contraction process?
For example, when I do bench press using Maxpro, can I get the exact resistance in the direction of gravity after pushing up the handle? In other words, can I get an exercise effect in the process of stretching my chest muscles? Or is the functional effect of Maxpro great even if it is impossible?
I used a translator because I am not good at English. But please answer me. Thank you!
*Give it a couple of years while sales slump...and you'll be able to pick one up for about $350...used on Ebay...$280*
Can you please tell me where you purchased your one from? I purchased one through a certain site and I received something completely different and rubbish. It was a fraudulent site.
Yea sure. Maxprofitness.com. Hope this helps.
@@selfhelp9175 thank you for the really quick reply. The site you gave me is definitely not the site I purchased mine through.
Hello, I wanted to know you find it on which site because I live in France and wanted to buy it but I can't find it
Here is the website where you can buy it from. I hope this helps. maxprofitness.com/
But how long will that resistance last before it starts to fade
You can add resistance just release slowly using your muscles
Has Your max pro action smoothed out yet, been using but still very choppy action
Yes. There is a 3 day break in period. After that, You will need to recalibrate it to make sure both sides have equal amount of resistance. But even with perfect resistance. There is 2 movements that are always choppy. They are barbell squats and barbell bicep curls. Hope this helps.
I got mine last week and I had no issues. They may have worked that out already.
What do you mean that you have to recalibrate it; how do you do it ?
If concentric only training was truly useless this product wouldn’t have sold a single unit.
It’s a hell of a lot better than nothing
What does that mean that it has only resistance on the upside? Makes no sense.
How much is it?
Wouldn’t a 300 pound Olympic weight set be a good minimum gym setup?
Have you made an attempt to purchase the aforementioned equipment in the last year? I have. Not as simple and affordable a process as it once was.
@@palabrajot505 yes sir. It took like a month. Notify when in stock
Great review!
why do u have to step on that base to do a work out?
These were 550 and they raised the price ? Idk about 850 I will wait until the gyms opens
I asked the company about this. They said they discontinued the non bluetooth version which was cheaper. I'll wait for this to come down in price
the grunting was too intense hahah
I do want one but the price is too much for that machine i will wait until it go down in price £250 in a couple of yours
Yea the non bluetooth ones are coming back in stock in April. Definitely worth the price.
Has anyone been able to modify it to have eccentric resistance?
I'd buy it for like 100ish bucks not the 849 dollars they want for it
That’s like saying you’d buy tonal for 250 not 2500. Iykyk> this is not a thigh master.
@@Mymusicgenx no its not , tonal is a high quality fitness machine that has concentric and eccentric movement , this thing is garbage.
@@jduke989 youre wrong.
The numbers on the dial go by 5 lbs so 20 = 100 lbs
Look everyone a portable gym that can fit in a backpack. It is almost useless unless you also have an adjustable bench in your backpack as well though.... Your kidding me right?
Hey there, this is a really old video. I don't use a bench anymore. Just calisthenics and The Max Pro. Hope this helps.
those bands look like they are about to snap at 20
The bands are pretty solid actually. You only need to change them 1-2 years depending on usage. I've been doing some pretty solid lifting with these for a whole year with no problems. Hope this helps.
I hope this is a review unit because it is Way over priced......$850, come on!
Really? The price must have gone up. I was an early bird and got my for $549
@@selfhelp9175 there are two versions. One has bluetooth and it's more expensive. I'm not even sure what the point of the bluetooth is, maybe classes or something. Though I believe the non-bluetooth price has increased a little bit
yea its 850
his face went super red
Just pushups and pullups w resistance bands changed my body, waste of money.
He might 💩💩💩 on himself doing the deadlift....Easy there partner.
Dude, close the windows!
No negative
It blows
Save your money
Nice, but resistance band much cheaper and similar to it
You were about to have a hernia...
lol yea I know. When I look back at this video. I really had some bad form.
You also feel no weight on the 'down pull' of the cable machine in the gym.
@Dermot McNeill Unless gravity does not exist in your gym, what you say is untrue. The cable is attached to the weight stack. It has to provide resistance as you perform the eccentric portion of the movement.
Where did your calves go?
Close your window next time please
Chicken Legs.🐓🍤🍗🍗
You’re product is over priced and I wouldn’t invest.
It's not his product..
you need something for those chicken legs bro