No truer words have been spoken. The number of times I have done what I call "the nuclear method" of resetting my local repo is too many to count. For some reason Git just randomly decides to throw a fit and destroy itself and the only solution I've found that always works is to rm -rf the entire local repo and clone it again.
@@thenormalminecrafter2720 i stoped working on it, its fun parkour mechanics smthn, i dont remember sorry, you can find my main project splatoon and then from there look at my other worlds
I appreciate that you drill down into some of the details. Other creators often make that joke that nobody wants to hear the technical stuff, and while it may drop viewership and that’s why they don’t, I always appreciate when it is included. Or, with others, if they could at least make a separate, or second channel video going into detail
Hi! Hugo from Noxcrew here, you’re very cool, keep doing cool stuff. I wish I could show you some of our backend systems for MCC/MCCI because there is a lot of interesting stuff :)
I almost soiled myself when you mentioned windows path limit. Finally someone to commiserate with! As always, I love the humor and wit in your videos. Very entertaining.
this is a deep in the weeds technicality, because by legal requirement it does not contain any of the original code, but it was developed from it. idk if you can call a project a fork if it doesn't have any forked code, but at the same time, i don't know if you can stop calling a forked project a fork if it no longer has original code. language is fuzzy, its fine to say Bukkit is the original, because its category of thing is often server mod, not server itself.
@@andreaspatsalides1914 This is in fact, completely false. Bukkit is simply the API portion, and itself does no modification of the server jar. CraftBukkit actually IMPLEMENTS the Bukkit API and modifies the minecraft server jar, so the case could br made CraftBukkit specifically is a fork of the Vanilla server jar.
@@xymaryai8283 funny thing, spigot doesn't have any bukkit code either because of dmca bs, instead they have patches there are applied on top of the result of the bukkit patches
The fact that you went through all this trouble just to avoid using or creating a mod fills my heart with joy knowing that someone out there is as insane and committed to vanilla as I am. Plus, this will look _great_ on your resume. Although I don't think I'd have the patience to do what you did. Regardless, I wish you the best with your server! You're very talented!
fabric. use fabric. you can make 100% vanilla compatibility using fabric mods, and even end out with with a *better performing* server than paper. I'd be more than happy to help you getting started with this kind of stuff. fabric allows you *so* much more fine-grained control and capabilities
Everyone loves having to refactor mods every. Single. Game update because the internals shifted around; the bukkit lineage excels at forward compatibility in this regard, and fabric is also lacking in serious plugins for server admin of a public server.
oh yeah I'm not a dev but I've heard nothing but good things about serverside fabric mods. even Sethbling is using them now edit: yeah maybe forwards compatibility. hm.
@@yourfriend_alt2545 there is but they dont get updated much and have more bugs, fabric is also much harder for compatibility as even one mod might break the entire thing
addendum: this comment was a joke kinda but genuinely i think you make easily some of the best videos on youtube (let alone minecraft videos) ((let alone minecraft modding videos)). genuine everything you put out is fascinating and junk. thanks post script: are you in the closet
Compiling a Paper fork on Windows is always slow due to the nature of Windows filesystem. It's recommended to do Paper-related work on a Linux machine or if you don't have a Linux setup, use WSL2
Hey, i am a og watcher of you. I never thought that a guy who explains commands would change me. I became a mod and datapack maker because of your tutorials. Thank you legitimoose. (Oh and you know there is a mod maker that works really easly, the name is mcreator)
I'm so happy to see you make a video on my favorite subject: Programming. And not some in game scripting or anything but real bare metal programming! (Except it's not bare metal because JVM but eh close enough)
As someone who's just getting into the world of plugins for my own company events, it's crazy to see the parallels of using your datapack tutorials over the past few years and now seeing a new video from you and it's about plugins. Also how the hell did you find out mud doesn't fire a blockchange event what a niche thing to find hahaha
This is so true!! I needed to make a modification to paper for a server a while back and the bit about needing to just delete everything and start again to get rid of the git ghosts is so true
TBF I'm pretty sure git installer for Windows offers changing the registry. But yeah, it's yet another tweak (amongst 50 other) you have to do to make Windows development friendly. I used it only at work and it was a pain.
I used to work for this server called Total freedom which used a very jank plugin to give everyone actual full operator but yet still impose restrictions on it. God I wish we had this. The sever shut down this year after running for over a decade so I am a bit sad but now maybe this can lead the way for something similar
This reminds me of a How To Mod Minecraft book for dummys I had when I was a kid. You could code the mod in your browser then join their server and it would run.
TIL you can disable the windows path character limit this would have been VERY helpful to know like a year ago when I fucked up my windows installation on accident in an attempt to delete a folder that exceeded the limit
I applaud you. Seriously though, you really should report that command block escalation to paper, changing owners shouldn't be allowed without some serious OP level. Though seriously, why the hell doesn't paper check against the OP level when running that kind of command. (yes, it should fail if it wasn't triggered by a player in some fashion - button/lever/etc)
Ngl, there’s only one problem with the server, the name. Because if you search legitimoose on RUclips, your vids with pop up first, and then maybe videos on the server, so I would change the name so it’s easily searchable because I would love to see random vids of people on your server
13:03 git reflog is your friend. A friend that, like, doesn't make their presence known, like, at all (almost), but a friend nonetheless. It'll give you the commit hashes for every commit you've been to so you're actually able to go back to them.
I mean, looks cool - but you now have to maintain your fork and constantly pull changes from your upstream repo - changes that may cause merge conflicts. You would have been better off doing a pull request on LSP or Paper and cancelling the need of continually maintaining your fork (otherwise you will miss important updates, including potential security flaw fixes which your fork is intended to do in the first place)
Only weird thing u mentioned was the registry keys rest is just normal java dev stuff, If i worked on a project (as a job) that had that issue i would immediately rename every file over that length/come up with a new naming convention And make sure u have ample space on ur C drive for the .gradle cache
i tried making a mc plugin once, i decided to start simple, a plugin to implement /fly... i had to nuke my pc xD. it would not let me create new folders in any directory. I loved this video
5:42 unironically this is one of the few shown guides that actually show how to edit patches the documentation for modifying patches kinda confusing and ahh ngl
For months I was gaslit into believing my scoreboard plugin wasn't working, only to Now find out that ASP just. doesn't save it cool video! I think this alone will save me another 20 hours of development
so no one ever made a minecraft server where you can use unique code to make games, huh? Let me tell you, about a very old server we may call, DiamondFire
You probably want to switch to an UNIX (-like) system for doing Java development in the future, there are a bunch of things (like the path name length) that aren't an issue there.
This is so funny to me because I randomly got recommended this & I am doing something very similar right now… I just am attacking it from a completely different angle… by that I mean I am currently so in the weeds that I am making my own programming language for it… yeah 👍
It's always crazy how windows doesn't allow paths with more than 256 characters. I get _why_ (I think, it's been years since I've read the windows docs) but surely there's a better way.
Many programs written for Windows have been written using the MAX_PATH, which would obviously break compatibility. Since it's a macro changed only during compilation, if it were to encounter a path with a length greater than 256, it would overflow the buffer. That's why they can't change the limitation so easily.
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you know it's good open source software when it's a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork
of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork
@@nexusless of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork
@@weird_autumn42 of a decomp of game based on Infiniminer using some code from notch’s old terrain generation tech demo
@@TheSquareSquared you just had to make it not understandable!
@@MalteFP What's not understandable?
Edit, 2 seconds later: Oh wait I know far too much about software
HE REMEMBERED HIS RUclips PASSWORD
hes been resurrected!
That’s hilarious
LES GOOOOOO
Conure512!!!
AYOOP CONUREEEE
"Wait it's all bukkit?" "Always has been."
"to fix very important security issues that only I am stupid enough to encounter."
lmao why is this so relatable
@@white_145 was 69 likes, i made it 70
@@TheRealMangoDev terrible man
@@TheRealMangoDev thank you
in the git hub, straight "forking it". And by it, haha, well. let's just say, my server software
This is a great joke and you deserve more likes
THANK YOU for not skipping over the boring nerd stuff that's what i am HERE FOR
“sometimes you just gotta randomly delete all your files and start again because the git repo becomes haunted” 😂😂
No truer words have been spoken. The number of times I have done what I call "the nuclear method" of resetting my local repo is too many to count. For some reason Git just randomly decides to throw a fit and destroy itself and the only solution I've found that always works is to rm -rf the entire local repo and clone it again.
yooo, lobotomoose was playing my silly parkour game
whats the world name? looks interesting
@@thenormalminecrafter2720 i stoped working on it, its fun parkour mechanics smthn, i dont remember sorry, you can find my main project splatoon and then from there look at my other worlds
you are absolutely insane and that's amazing
woah it’s the guy from the skeybluk
I appreciate that you drill down into some of the details.
Other creators often make that joke that nobody wants to hear the technical stuff, and while it may drop viewership and that’s why they don’t, I always appreciate when it is included.
Or, with others, if they could at least make a separate, or second channel video going into detail
Hi! Hugo from Noxcrew here, you’re very cool, keep doing cool stuff. I wish I could show you some of our backend systems for MCC/MCCI because there is a lot of interesting stuff :)
:O That would be so sick...! I will keep doing cool stuff o7
I almost soiled myself when you mentioned windows path limit. Finally someone to commiserate with! As always, I love the humor and wit in your videos. Very entertaining.
You forgot to mention Bukkit is technically a fork of the Minecraft server.jar
this is a deep in the weeds technicality, because by legal requirement it does not contain any of the original code, but it was developed from it. idk if you can call a project a fork if it doesn't have any forked code, but at the same time, i don't know if you can stop calling a forked project a fork if it no longer has original code.
language is fuzzy, its fine to say Bukkit is the original, because its category of thing is often server mod, not server itself.
@@xymaryai8283 It specifically tells the machine to ignore code and use the new one instead
Its a fork
@@andreaspatsalides1914 This is in fact, completely false. Bukkit is simply the API portion, and itself does no modification of the server jar. CraftBukkit actually IMPLEMENTS the Bukkit API and modifies the minecraft server jar, so the case could br made CraftBukkit specifically is a fork of the Vanilla server jar.
@@andreaspatsalides1914 shhh don't tell mojang
@@xymaryai8283 funny thing, spigot doesn't have any bukkit code either because of dmca bs, instead they have patches there are applied on top of the result of the bukkit patches
The fact that you went through all this trouble just to avoid using or creating a mod fills my heart with joy knowing that someone out there is as insane and committed to vanilla as I am. Plus, this will look _great_ on your resume.
Although I don't think I'd have the patience to do what you did.
Regardless, I wish you the best with your server! You're very talented!
fabric. use fabric. you can make 100% vanilla compatibility using fabric mods, and even end out with with a *better performing* server than paper.
I'd be more than happy to help you getting started with this kind of stuff.
fabric allows you *so* much more fine-grained control and capabilities
Everyone loves having to refactor mods every. Single. Game update because the internals shifted around; the bukkit lineage excels at forward compatibility in this regard, and fabric is also lacking in serious plugins for server admin of a public server.
Fabric does have its own negatives like some mods also require the client to have the mod
oh yeah
I'm not a dev but I've heard nothing but good things about serverside fabric mods. even Sethbling is using them now
edit: yeah maybe forwards compatibility. hm.
fabric does not even have a anticheat mod 😭
@@yourfriend_alt2545 there is but they dont get updated much and have more bugs, fabric is also much harder for compatibility as even one mod might break the entire thing
It's legit a new Moose video
12:10 hey look its my silly chaos game
@@stray1239 truly a chaos box moment of all time
dont forget, bukkit is technically a fork of vanilla server, which is a fork of vanilla client, which is a fork of rubydung
Which is a fork of notches older projects
It's not really a fork, but something on top of the Vanilla Minecraft Server, kinda like Forge and Fabric. Nice to see you here too, by the way!!
your videos are so cool legitimoose! ive been watching them almost as long as i've been int he closet
addendum: this comment was a joke kinda but genuinely i think you make easily some of the best videos on youtube (let alone minecraft videos) ((let alone minecraft modding videos)). genuine everything you put out is fascinating and junk. thanks
post script: are you in the closet
Compiling a Paper fork on Windows is always slow due to the nature of Windows filesystem. It's recommended to do Paper-related work on a Linux machine or if you don't have a Linux setup, use WSL2
KABAN????
Nice fork
🍴
i really wanna see more behind the scenes stuff for your server like this! its super interesting :D
Hey, i am a og watcher of you. I never thought that a guy who explains commands would change me. I became a mod and datapack maker because of your tutorials. Thank you legitimoose. (Oh and you know there is a mod maker that works really easly, the name is mcreator)
I'm so happy to see you make a video on my favorite subject: Programming. And not some in game scripting or anything but real bare metal programming!
(Except it's not bare metal because JVM but eh close enough)
As someone who's just getting into the world of plugins for my own company events, it's crazy to see the parallels of using your datapack tutorials over the past few years and now seeing a new video from you and it's about plugins. Also how the hell did you find out mud doesn't fire a blockchange event what a niche thing to find hahaha
this. I love the nerdy technical side of minecraft. Please keep making content like this
This is so true!! I needed to make a modification to paper for a server a while back and the bit about needing to just delete everything and start again to get rid of the git ghosts is so true
12:49 *Laughs in Linux*
TBF I'm pretty sure git installer for Windows offers changing the registry. But yeah, it's yet another tweak (amongst 50 other) you have to do to make Windows development friendly. I used it only at work and it was a pain.
Such an incredibly cool project, wishing you all the luck in the world
Thank you for promoting a plugin development, there is little content on RUclips that I would like to watch.
I used to work for this server called Total freedom which used a very jank plugin to give everyone actual full operator but yet still impose restrictions on it. God I wish we had this. The sever shut down this year after running for over a decade so I am a bit sad but now maybe this can lead the way for something similar
WOOOOOOO HES BACK. I’m excited for this new server😆
HEY LEGITIMOOSE!!!! Wuz up your new server is sick!
NCC arena is an amazing game on the server
"sometimes the git repo just becomes haunted"
Oh I feel you
The fact that bukkit is technically older than Minecraft is kind of funny
This reminds me of a How To Mod Minecraft book for dummys I had when I was a kid. You could code the mod in your browser then join their server and it would run.
Good to see your progress!! Keep the good work.
TIL you can disable the windows path character limit
this would have been VERY helpful to know like a year ago when I fucked up my windows installation on accident in an attempt to delete a folder that exceeded the limit
skdjdjskskdk the more u know
Heeeeeee'SSSSSS BACKKKKK!!! Your tutorials have been helping me for like the past 2 years lol
I wanted to do this my self but didn't how how to start.
So thanks for the fun video.
I applaud you. Seriously though, you really should report that command block escalation to paper, changing owners shouldn't be allowed without some serious OP level.
Though seriously, why the hell doesn't paper check against the OP level when running that kind of command. (yes, it should fail if it wasn't triggered by a player in some fashion - button/lever/etc)
Ngl, there’s only one problem with the server, the name.
Because if you search legitimoose on RUclips, your vids with pop up first, and then maybe videos on the server, so I would change the name so it’s easily searchable because I would love to see random vids of people on your server
It's 1 am for me
Same lmao
Yeah, I gotta go to sleep
Western europe?
Honestly I've been keeping an eye on Folia, which is a heavily multithreaded fork of Paper. Yup, a fork of a fork of a fork!
Very much worth the wait :D
13:03 git reflog is your friend. A friend that, like, doesn't make their presence known, like, at all (almost), but a friend nonetheless. It'll give you the commit hashes for every commit you've been to so you're actually able to go back to them.
You are built sooo different! WOW!
MOOSE!!! YOUR ALIVE!!!
A new Legitimoose video makes me incredibly happy
12:29 random but love the mmx credits music
SO TRUE i love the whole soundtrack
You... Uploaded! finally.
Still incredible what you're doing
now i understand why you were somewhat afk on my island... you needed footage! thats cool seeing my game in a random vid xD
I was just thinking how you never upload
Wake up mooseman uploaded
I mean, looks cool - but you now have to maintain your fork and constantly pull changes from your upstream repo - changes that may cause merge conflicts. You would have been better off doing a pull request on LSP or Paper and cancelling the need of continually maintaining your fork (otherwise you will miss important updates, including potential security flaw fixes which your fork is intended to do in the first place)
Wasn't expecting this today
Only weird thing u mentioned was the registry keys rest is just normal java dev stuff, If i worked on a project (as a job) that had that issue i would immediately rename every file over that length/come up with a new naming convention
And make sure u have ample space on ur C drive for the .gradle cache
reminds me of diamondfire
Maybe we should call it a fike, because it's the 5th generation...
yooooyy, wonderful server, already tested it
i tried making a mc plugin once, i decided to start simple, a plugin to implement /fly... i had to nuke my pc xD. it would not let me create new folders in any directory. I loved this video
fast forward a year and now im a software eng. intern at a tech company lol. but yeah that time was a pretty humbiling experience.
Guys like the video so his caring for RUclips doesn't die off camera
5:42 unironically this is one of the few shown guides that actually show how to edit patches
the documentation for modifying patches kinda confusing and ahh ngl
thank you so much for making worldedit work again lol
You should also recheck vanilla pudding
Amazing video man, You're a really talented programmer 💪
Mad props, git is a pain
Lsp from adventure time is now a plugin damn
I'm so happy you didn't skip the nerd stuff, I hate when RUclipsrs do that. Let me be a nerd
For months I was gaslit into believing my scoreboard plugin wasn't working, only to Now find out that ASP just. doesn't save it
cool video! I think this alone will save me another 20 hours of development
this is peak, take my engagement funny man.
finally
after all this time
new legitioose upload
ohhh that's why it's been 3 years
i remember when you first started :)
that was insane. i love it
Diamondfire is somewhat like this but with less control.
There's a moose loose aboot the hoose
this is insane! Giga brain power, i can feel it
it would be soo funny if diamondfire sponsored this video :3
crazy
so no one ever made a minecraft server where you can use unique code to make games, huh?
Let me tell you, about a very old server we may call, DiamondFire
Holy s### he's back!! Thank the lord, the command commander is back!!!
Ahhh paper... Minecraft but lobotomized
It would have been so much easier to just run the server on fabric and use custom fabric mods with mixins to change the vanilla behavior
HOLY SHIT BABE WAKE UP LEGITIMOOSE UPLOADED
"the git repo becomes haunted" LOL
LEGITIMOOSE UPLOAD! LETS GO!!
THANK GOD FOR A NEW UPLOAD ITS BEEN TOO LONG
Long build times can be reduced to only reload the files you have edited I believe it's called incremental compilation dunno if that helps
rhythm heaven mentioned !!!
You probably want to switch to an UNIX (-like) system for doing Java development in the future, there are a bunch of things (like the path name length) that aren't an issue there.
HONEY WAKE UP LEGITIMOOSE JUST POSTED
and if you did the purple upgrade it would be a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork (if i count okay)
What a goat
This is so funny to me because I randomly got recommended this & I am doing something very similar right now… I just am attacking it from a completely different angle… by that I mean I am currently so in the weeds that I am making my own programming language for it… yeah 👍
Finally he’s back
It's always crazy how windows doesn't allow paths with more than 256 characters. I get _why_ (I think, it's been years since I've read the windows docs) but surely there's a better way.
Many programs written for Windows have been written using the MAX_PATH, which would obviously break compatibility. Since it's a macro changed only during compilation, if it were to encounter a path with a length greater than 256, it would overflow the buffer. That's why they can't change the limitation so easily.
If you want help maintaining your fork I would like to talk to you.
Holy shiet bro uploaded
hello