The Science Behind Gordon Sargent's Insane Swing Speed | Film Study | Golf Digest
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Vanderbilt's Gordon Sargent has been turning heads in recent months due his impressive play and prodigious length off the tee. But how can a 170-pound, 20-year-old hit the ball nearly 400 yards off the tee? Where does his power come from? In this Film Study, our very own Luke Kerr-Dineen will explain Sargent's X-Factor.
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It’s an amazing amount of speed and power but it’s reminiscent of Zalatoris’ swing so hope his back holds up over time.
Totally
It can't. And the sad thing is this is the modern teaching.
And Rory’s too……..
@@softjones3128 all swings have an X factor, it’s a measurement.
Yes I was very picky about where to send my kids for lessons.@@matthoward123
In his two PGA Tour starts this season, both majors (Masters and U.S. Open), Sargent has averaged 323.9 yards off the tee and 125.6 clubhead speed. Those numbers would rank second and third, respectively, on the PGA Tour.
125mph head speed is moving it for sure. About 10 years ago another small golfer who hit it far was 2-time LDA champ Canadian Jamie Sadlowski at 145mph head speed. It would be good to see how Jamie's back is today. I am 5'10" and used to swing 134mph after 2 years of trying to build my swing speed, and my back is not completely falling apart, but if Sargent stays at 120-125mph then he might stay in the PGA for a while.
IDK…did he make the cut in those events?
@@WheelerRickRambles I am not sure, but Long Drivers typically don't have quite the feel or consistency for all of the other shots needed for golf at a high level. Many of them are scratch golfers or even low single digits, but asking them to put 4 good rounds together... it is just a matter of time for them to post a big number, thereby causing them to miss the cut. 1 degree off with drives of 380 yards... they'd be lucky if it was just in the trees instead of 3 fairways over.
@@casualguy3938 👍👍⛳️🏌️♂️⛳️🏌️♂️
And he didn't win? Exactly!
The hips don’t lie
He should study Cantlay’s old swing, that broke his back, and Cantlay’s new swing, if he hasn’t already.
Stood right behind him on no. 15 on Thursday at the Masters this year. Hit an absolute bomb.
They did a study on Cantlays swing and how much twist he was able to create in his body that eventually it almost broke his back so he needed surgery
That looks like a formula for major back problems down the road.
lower back issues are pretty common for golfers.
X factor stretch can also cause injury
What a terrific video. Thank you for making it.
Amazing how many teachers still do not understand this movement. It does not happen because your hip moves, it happens because your weight (right foot) shifts toward target- creating a deeper torque in the hips/shoulders. Not some Elvis hip move.
Cameron Champ has unbelievable separation like this, his hips fire so fast and is so open at impact
Years ago Rory McIlroy was criticized for working out with heavy weights. McIlroy defended this practice saying he was trying to protect his lower back because of his super fast hips. I remember Brandel Chamblee doing a deep dive on how McIlroy was ruining his body. Well, Chamblee was 100% wrong and McIlroy has had a very nice career.
If Gordon Sargent wants an extended PGA Tour career, he will need to adopt some or all of McIlroy’s trading protocols.
As an aside, there are many young golfers at my club that often hit their drives almost as far a Gordon Sargent. Call it the John Daly effect where a young golfer emulates a Daly swing verbatim. There’s a lot of Gordon Sargent type players coming up the next couple of years. Wonder why they’re rolling back the ball?
I’m right happy for him. Not jealous at all.
I used to see this kid training at Top Shots in Memphis, TN... he was breaking 320yds at 15 years old when he was auditioning for the University of Memphis golf team...
At 15...
And sea level…
I like Sargent but nobody on tour is short. What impresses me are guys like Aberg with that seemingly easy power to move it. I put Mciiroy in that group .
Guys like Scheffler, JT , Speith , Rahm etc, who really have to literally jump out of their shoes to get the distance seem to have great short games to makeup for their wild shots. Gordon’s scores on great courses show he has more to his game than distance.
As a taller dude who can carry it 300+ yd, I can confirm this causes back problems lol
no you cant lol
@@colinreddick Why don't you believe me? 😢
I believe it....Tiger Woods does too.
Muscles don't get more powerful when they are stretched more, do they? A muscle is not really a spring. Tendons might act like a spring though. Anyway, X-factor doesn't explain higher club head speed, except in so far as the swing can be longer and faster when the wind up is greater. Sargent's power is probably based on muscle strength and leverage, and his height.
My back hurts watching!
“I obviously don’t know for sure, but I bet Gordon’s swing is something similar” bro goes into this X factor science and doesn’t have the numbers to back it up.
Yeah, your making a video, get the numbers. He swings at 125mph average which took me 5 secs to google.
Aussie Min Woo Lee has a high X factor and drills it for a slim guy....................
Best player to compare his swing to is Cameron Champ. Swimgs are pretty close.
Reminds me of Cameron Champs' separation.
THE best analysis of a power gof swing I've ever seen. Like all hackers, it gives me hope!
(You just gotta be sure you straighten up your club at impact or your hip swivel will cut the ball...)
Wilco Nienaber is even faster yet barely people talked about him.
The scary thing is that it looks effortless to him despite regularly clocked at over 130 mph with his driver.
Sargent swing looks violent in comparison.
the twist he has at the begining of his dowswing between hips and shoulders his CRAZY (basically his back twisting totally)
Am I the only one who doubts that X-factor is really causing his power? Have you all ever twisted your body and measured how strong the recoil is? It is brief and relatively weak.
My opinion is that the real source of his power is his legs and core - plus his steep torso angle. The legs and core are helping him to just turn faster and harder. The torso angle [at impact] allows him to get his chest pointed more towards the ball, which implies, his arms more in front of the chest and less "beneath" it. This allows one to "push"/release the club more like a bench press, and less like an awkwardly angled lat pulldown. Check the angle at 4:48 to see what I mean. Clearly, we are stronger at benchpress than angled lat pulldowns. So, he can release harder, this way.
hes got to have 80 degress
Somebody needs to go back and calculate these x-factor stretch numbers for 1997 Tiger when he was really letting the shaft out. That would be cool to see.
Exploding open your hips ahead of a swing has been a staple in a baseball swing forever. Ask any hitting coach and they will emphasize this element.
Its difficult to see but its his deceleration at the bottom that creates his amazing release. Its like cracking a whip or popping a towel but there no recoil because a club is much heavier so the hands and grip appear to keep moving. But, if you notice the club passes his hands at the same point of the swing everytime. Everyone will know him very soon!
This isn't really anything new. We've seen players swing like this before and it breaks them. Just as important as a swing that produces power is a swing that won't injure you and let you play for decades.
Just watching this snapped my back 🥴
That's the swing that ruined my back. When I went to the hospital the doctor told me that the hips and back were not meant to separate like that. Eventually that move will catch up to him.
you never had "that swing"
@@HighSpinSwingSpeedYou know what he meant
@@HighSpinSwingSpeedyour mum swung with him …
Not before that move makes him millions of dollars though.
Sorry your doctor is wrong and probably doesn’t actually know a whole lot about biomechanics and tissue tolerances if he’s throwing out absolute statements. Sure, these mechanics place higher torque moments through the spine, but it will only cause injury if that force exceeds tissue tolerances. Condition the tissues well enough and manage your loading properly and you won’t have issues
An entire video about his speed and not one mention of club head speed or ball speed…
I just think there is a more efficient way to hit the ball far without rotating the upper body against the lower body. How many have been injured with knee and/or back problems related to swinging like this? Tiger, Koepka, Jason Day, Zalatoris, etc. just to name a few off the top of my head
So what’s his frigging swing speed
Sooo key to max speed is max torque on spine! Got it! Sounds great
I’m 70 & if I don’t hold back my hips with my downswing (sequencing)
I fail to hit the centre of the club & lose distance.
Ah, those young rubber backs. Won't last long.
Saw his driver swing at walker cup this year, was clearly faster than everyone there.
I'm unfamiliar with his game. Are his misses just off the planet? Or, is he able to routinely get it to the house on days when he couldn't find timing with a watch? Are his hands at that speed so good that a miss is simply a long block to the right which is playable but would require three solid shots to make par?
Looks like the angle used to calculate the x-factor in this video wasn't right. It's actually the angle made in front or behind the person not to the sides. This would make more sense for trying to "increase" the angle rather than "decreasing" the angle with more trunk and pelvis separation.
I saw him at the Walker Cup this year, very impressive. However, as other contributors have mentioned, he's heading for major back issues. It's happened to many players over the years, the pressure he's placing on his back is unbearable. Look at some of the top players who have been around a long time and don't appear to swing hard. Typically, Ernie Els. I'm sure he'll have some wear and tear but he's never put his back under so much tension. When Tiger Woods first came on the scene, it was immediately apparent he'd have issues further down the road. This fella's no diffent.
Tremendous twisting force and speed of the pivot and explosive lagging clubhead through impact.
Interesting … his weight was mentioned but not his height nor the length of arc.
I'm about just be working on this all winter
Cool vid
That shallowing motion isn't bad either
Shallowing is nonsense.
@@natewins11 for a skilled golfer who is steep in transition it isn't but for average golfer trying to shallow is
@@fredster1449 all this talk lately about shallowing. Shallowing is a byproduct of proper lower body movements. It’s not something to be done intentionally.
@@natewins11assuming hip movement is good, you can control shallow Vs steepness with shoulder / arm speed, let the club hang behind a bit, almost guaranteed to draw my irons (and overbook some tbh). If I’m in thick rough or need to cut one, I just let the shoulders move a bit quicker and voila, steep spinny cut
Goes without saying that all great golfers have the ability to fire their lower bodies while keeping their arms totally relaxed. Most amateur golfers use their arms for power and they lose potential distance.
I've seen Victor Schwamkrug hit it 400 a bunch. Regulation club and ball, Korn Ferry tour (back when it was called something else). Victor holds the record for driving average on any tour ever.
He’s on his way to the tour, let’s see if that power pays off.
It'll be good to watch. I am sure he is going to make some highlight reels for sure. Hopefully he doesn't get too caught up in distance as he already hits it far enough. The bad thing with distance though is that 1 degree off at 280 yards = rough. 1 degree off at 340 yards = trees. 380 yards = take a drop or hit a provisional.
@@casualguy3938 good point
“You can play golf for a lifetime and injury-free if you swing the club like Bobby Jones did, like Ernest Jones used to teach-where it’s a swinging motion rather than a violent movement,” Mickelson said at the 2016 Masters.
“A lot of the young guys get hurt as they create this violent, connected movement, and I don’t believe that’s the proper way to swing the golf club.”
whats more amazing is the relative short back turn, Rahm-like, and still generate that type of speed............jeez............
High hands with basically the arm being straight at maximum turn means club head speed equals more distance.
Man. How is this not super hard in his back and spine? It hurts me just watching him
Other worldly?... bro... Cameron Champ?... Literally identical action.
Hips start earlier than I thought but the other main thing is he is on his right foots toe pretty early too. Flying right elbow anyone?
Looks like a young Tiger, I don't think his body/back can cope with those forces over a long career. Ludvig Åbergs swing looks less demanding on the body and he gets similar club head speeds. It's probably due to a better combination of proper weight/gym training and good technique so you can consistently generate high speed with about 80% of maximum effort (I might be biased as a swede though :) ).
Kid these days...lol... bunch of them at the range in my club. So flexible and hit the ball far.
I think genetic muscle quality wins over early hip rotation even though it's a correct movement to do.
Amen.
Creating extreme angle between your shoulder turn and your hip turn, then very violently twisting them back is extremely bad and damaging to your body, not just your back! Besides, this ability has to come natural, if you simply imitate such movement without correct genetics you will not reach higher speed since you cannot cope and resynchronize the discrepancy of the two turning, this usually results in lower speed and open club face.
Cause hes snappppin, its just like cranking im bowling. Itll get ya eventually lol
There is no science behind this. If you’re somewhat athletic and taller than average you can hit the ball far. If he was 5’7” and hit the ball that far I would be impressed.
The reason why this guy hits the ball so long is because he uses the kinetic chain...using the ground to create vertical rotation and horizontal forces want to know more check out GRF Golf
This swing / move likely won't last long on tour.
I get it out there 280 or so. I'm a little bit jealous of this kids power..Of course I'm 55 with no back problems, so I can't complain...we'll see how his career goes.
Amazing insight. This is not sustainable though surely! You look at limited (ish) swings like Rahm and Lowry and you know they're going to be doing that for 15+ years.
Reminds me of gm_golf swing
Sargent's back will be destroyed by the time he's 35...at what should be his peak. Tiger had the exact same problem, predicted by none other than Johnny Miller.
It is float loading on the downswing… just like Sergio Garcia and Ben Horgan.
In the coming years with the ball changes. Distance like this could be a moot point. But only time will tell.
Imagine how bad his back hurts
Grapes may be sour sometimes.
@@3am_3am_ elephants are always heavy
380? That's adorable. My long is 480 ~Bryson
He also gets on his toes asap during the hip firing
Ohhh Layyy
Hos swing kinda looks like DJs
Ye its called talent, there you've learnt about it, most people dont have the rotational ability of a pro, not even if they practiced 10000 hours
As Chubbs says “it’s all in the hips.”
Spreads his shoulders and hips apart like Mike Honcho
That's how you break your spine!
Bryson Dechambeau!
If you don’t maintain connection then X factor is meaningless so the core muscles and obliques are important to maintain useable torsion
It's the movement of the arms, not the hips. The hips only react to the speed og the arms.
Haha love all the jealous comments
His swing looks like C. Champ swing & JT
Interesting but it looks like he will need to ingest a heck of a lot of collagen and omega-3 to avoid injury - I wonder how Mike Austin achieved this level of power without injury well into his late 60’s?
He will blow his back out before age 25 with that much torque on it…
2010 wants there conversation back.
That’s not gonna end well. Why is the classic lift the left heal (Jack) swing so dialed? Cause you don’t destroy your back, see every single modern player in the game! Good luck kid!
ROLLED BACK IT WONT.....
Torque , yes ; elasticity not much.
X factor is not science.
I am sure someone like Dr. Kwon at TWU could help you understand the real science in Sargent’s Excellent swing.
Cheers.
Sadly this halfassed video will get 10times the views of DR kwons.
Start setting an appointment for back surgery now.
I have that hip turn but I must be doing something else wrong 🤔
its all in the hips
X Factor can destroy your spine. It’s not something I recommend.
ha, my first thought: won't last...
It would have been great if i had y tube growing up.
Not really something that can be copied.
And what does this do to your back in your late 30s?
The lower back is not evolved to twist that much.If you have obliques etc made of titanium you can use that. But this kid clearly isn't that strong and is overusing the connective tissues instead. Look at jason day. Problem is as we all know, once someone has success with something they often don't change until forced to...