Efficiency Test: Slow N' Sear vs Weber Charcoal Baskets

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Theres been a lot of talk lately about the efficiency of the Slow N' Sear. I had to do my own test to see if it uses more or less charcoal that the standard Weber charcoal baskets. Which one will burn out last and be crowned the king of efficiency?
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Комментарии • 306

  • @GrillTopExperience
    @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад +6

    If you are looking to buy a Slow 'N Sear direct from the source, here is the link:
    snsgrills.com/collections/slow-n-sear/?afmc=GTE

  • @wfqsfg
    @wfqsfg 5 лет назад +39

    $15 baskets vs $100 slow n sear.

  • @GrillTopExperience
    @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +20

    I did everything I could to make this an even test to compare the two. I even repeated it when it messed up. Did I miss anything?

    • @goodelleric
      @goodelleric 6 лет назад

      Grill Top Experience on the second test did the baskets still require more adjustment?

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +2

      They did require a bit more adjustment, but I didn't calculate the deviation on the second test. I didn't adjust the vents at all on the pulled pork test and the Slow 'N Sear was more consistent there too.

    • @goodelleric
      @goodelleric 6 лет назад

      Grill Top Experience good to know, thanks! I just ordered a kettle and some of the baskets, I guess if I have troubles I'll consider the sns. It seemed tough to justify for the extra cost compared to the baskets.

    • @AWJFunk
      @AWJFunk 6 лет назад +1

      Abc says the drip n griddle pan helps with efficiency. You could simulate that by blocking off the charcoal grate on the other side maybe?
      Also did you use any water in the SnS? It helps even out the temp swings etc....

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +1

      I blocked off the charcoal grate and used water when I cooked the pork butt in my upcoming video. Water would kept the temps more consistent, but would have been hard to keep even between the two, so I left it out.

  • @TheT2tracer
    @TheT2tracer 5 лет назад +22

    Excellent test and video. The time you took to do all that testing is a labor of love for better BBQ. Thank you.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +2

      Thank you, Tracy. Someone had made a similar video about the same time that I didn't think was fair. I wanted to rerun the tests and see the results. Staring at a kettle with no food in it for 8 hours was worth it to get the information out there.

  • @NotaFlea
    @NotaFlea 5 лет назад +7

    Love the test. I actually prefer the weber baskets with a twist. When they first came out I had just bought one of the master touch grills they came in. I was a snake guy. So I bought another set if the baskets and after a few cuts, I joined them at a 90 degree. Now I had a snake set of baskets. No bridge needed. The idea works fantastic. I can hold 250 post 6 hours. Only thing better is to find one of the internal ash plates from a 1970s happy cooker, the way it helps control air flow is the game changer of all methods.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      That's definitely a good mod on the two baskets. They just aren't big enough by themselves to go low and slow for a long time. Thank you for the tips.

  • @BigLewBBQ
    @BigLewBBQ 6 лет назад +14

    Excellent test and video. You did it with a positive upbeat attitude, with out anger issues, personal vendettas, and plain old fashioned grouchiness, as some SNS testers seem to do. Love it.,
    And yes the SNS is a better option for a small family meal like just one pork butt, than my 55 gallon UDS is.
    However if I’m cooking four pork butts then the UDS wins out.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks Lew, I tried to be even. If I had to cook four pork butts I would probably use the UDS too. That way you only have to tend to one fire. My UDS likes to burn stuff on the bottom rack if I'm not careful though.

    • @RichardCockerill
      @RichardCockerill 5 лет назад +1

      silly either go for trial and error or read a book lol

  • @KevinHullinger
    @KevinHullinger 5 лет назад +15

    Well done 👍. 25 years experience with the Weber and I always stick to the basics and use the Weber baskets. Too Many hyped up accessories on the market with average or less than average results.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks Kevin. There are lots of accessories. The one benefit of sticking with the basics is you'll always be able to grill with whatever they have. A kettle is a kettle.

    • @danielwhite3428
      @danielwhite3428 5 лет назад +1

      Slow and sear is the bomb. Hard to trust and let go of the money. Works great

    • @SkunkMonkey991
      @SkunkMonkey991 2 года назад

      While I do agree with you, I did buy the slow and sear and I really love it. I am an old stick burner guy who recently bought a weber kettle to play around with, now I want the SNS kettle. Lots of fun.

  • @speedsterwinston
    @speedsterwinston 5 лет назад +1

    While I like the slow and sear the cost is absolute bullshit. They cost as much or more than the actual damn kettle. They are built out of $2.75 worth of metal. After marketing and distribution costs they should cost the buyer around $20 to $30.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      I would guess you haven't held a Slow 'N Sear. It's weight in cheap scrap metal would cost more than you suggest. The cost of the stainless steel plates would cost the DIY'er more than half what they charge.

    • @speedsterwinston
      @speedsterwinston 5 лет назад +2

      @@GrillTopExperience I have not held a slow n sear but I am a hobbiest metal worker and can tig weld SS. If you are buying small pieces of sheet metal from Home Depot you probably are paying a fair amount of money. But if you are a manufacturer that purchases rolls of SS sheet metal you are getting it at a substantial discount.

  • @ricoe5306
    @ricoe5306 4 года назад +3

    Thumbs up. Between you and MeatCranium, I believe the charcoal baskets work well enough. The Slow 'N Sear may be easier to control temp but in the long run not worth the price IMHO. Any Vortex/Vortex clone video on the horizon?

  • @Scottstunts
    @Scottstunts 4 года назад +4

    I’m impressed that they were only a gram off. Shows great product quality. Excellent video Sir!

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад +2

      That one surprised me too. Individual briquettes vary widely, but a random sample of 80 evens that out.

  • @Cookoutcoach
    @Cookoutcoach 6 лет назад +4

    Great test, great job in doing your best to eliminate variables, which I would say you did almost entirely given this wasn’t in a controlled lab, and also giving all the data points over time. Top notch bud👍, I just found your channel but it’s great stuff and I’m subbed

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад

      Thanks, man. I limited as many variables as I could without the lab. I figured most people don't have one to cook in either. I plan on checking your channel out too. Thanks for coming around.

  • @worrabd
    @worrabd 5 лет назад +4

    Take two baskets apart and make one larger basket, works just as good as the L&S. Use the extra money to buy better meat.

  • @progers5019
    @progers5019 5 лет назад +5

    Nice friendly test. I enjoyed watching.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      Thanks! I tried to keep this one unbiased by maintaining the temperature.

  • @Traumatree
    @Traumatree 2 года назад +2

    You could load up a lot more briquettes in the Slow 'N Sear than in the 2 small baskets and you dont have to monitor anything with the SnS vs the baskets.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад +1

      I don't normally pay as much attention to the SNS, but I had to keep the temps consistent for the sake of the experiment.

  • @WhiteThunderBBQ
    @WhiteThunderBBQ 6 лет назад +7

    I have worked with both....I really have only noticed a difference in the colder months. The SNS would hands down beat the baskets during the winter. During the Summer its nominal.

  • @MrNiceKnife
    @MrNiceKnife 5 лет назад +5

    Thanks for taking the time. 👍

  • @stevenmoomey2115
    @stevenmoomey2115 2 месяца назад

    I prefer the Charcoal Rails, the extra Ash, drops away from the charcoal, also it’s easier to get charcoal that is added to burn. The Rails are also Adjustable on the size.

  • @tyrellandonmorris07
    @tyrellandonmorris07 5 лет назад +3

    You exactly explained why I bought a SnS. The Weber charcoal baskets are just two small and require more babysitting. For me, it was worth it.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      I agree. Less hassle means spending more time doing other things!

  • @mandh14
    @mandh14 5 лет назад +18

    Don't use either, just heap it up one side.

    • @dfjones0804
      @dfjones0804 4 года назад +1

      Just make a bro N sear

    • @Josef_R
      @Josef_R 4 года назад +4

      Both methods are more efficient than just piling it up because they retain the heat.

  • @BBQCrasher
    @BBQCrasher 5 лет назад +4

    Extremely impressed about the test that you've conducted & the video editing of storytelling! You help provide me with excellent information to make a wise buying decision thank you so much @bbqcraher

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      I appreciate the feedback. This one took more work than most of my videos, but I wanted to get the test right. This test might get redone in the cold to see if there is a difference since this one was done at about 90F.

  • @noogman
    @noogman 4 месяца назад

    There are two Weber Baskets that normally equal themselves out. One on each side. Why try to make a bridge of the baskets. It is clear that the Slow and Sear has the advantage when you break up the purpose of two Weber Baskets.

  • @richardewlliams9864
    @richardewlliams9864 11 месяцев назад

    I did a test with can beer and glass bottle beer.
    Please don't ask for the final results. Some how I lost the data. GRINS

  • @tvideo1189
    @tvideo1189 4 года назад +1

    You can get a pair of Weber charcoal baskets on Amazon for 17 bucks. Wire them together. Take a grinder and cut a U-channel between the two so you don't have to worry about building a bridge between the baskets. Done. In my opinion, the Slow n Sear is WAY, WAY overpriced for what it does. YMMV.

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice 5 лет назад +2

    Stainless steel bowl with water in it, heap the coals to one side. Easy

    • @freddyflintstoned913
      @freddyflintstoned913 4 года назад +1

      Yep, I bought a SS dog bowl at a second hand shop, 3 bucks.

  • @edgeesquire7068
    @edgeesquire7068 3 месяца назад

    All in all what you're talking about measuring is cook maintenance and convenience, these products both produce very similar results, so your video is just an exercise in grilling nuance and semantics. In the real end the SNS is a more convenient product that is better built, so if you have the coin go with better built always, otherwise the webers are fine. Love ya "grill top" but give us something we can actually use..... Like..... Zone management(more than just direct/indirect) , or smoke science, or even something on grills and PIDs (not on pellets but just regular grills) , give us better bro, give us more, content is king bro

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  3 месяца назад

      You'd have to get in your time machine to understand the context behind the video. Another RUclipsr was getting a ton of views trashing on the SNS by doing experiments that were executed poorly and with incredible bias. This video disputed their findings and also pushed back on SNS's claims that it saves charcoal.

  • @graemejamieson5580
    @graemejamieson5580 5 лет назад +2

    Hey man the Weber is great but the most important part of this video is Battleships with the ankle biters. I use battleships to teach my grandkids the NASA version of the phonic alphabet.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      I was on the phone with tech support and she said as in "Girl, Baby, Daddy". Like what? Oh you mean Golf, Bravo, Delta!

  • @SkunkMonkey991
    @SkunkMonkey991 Год назад +1

    I got the baskets included with the last kettle I bought. Have had the slow and sear for several years and love using it. They both have pluses but if I could only have one it would be the slow and sear. Great video.

  • @geebee44
    @geebee44 2 месяца назад

    The price makes the Weber a no-brainer win to me...

  • @douglee650
    @douglee650 3 года назад +1

    My guys what you do is arrange the baskets in a circle and form a channel “moat” with the inside of the kettle. Then put the briquets in the channel. I put bricks in there too, holds in in place and also a great heat sink to stabilize temps.

  • @nataniatsitty193
    @nataniatsitty193 Год назад

    I have a certain pinging going on in my radar in the back of my head.

  • @igotmyphotos
    @igotmyphotos 5 лет назад +7

    Both items are a good investment.... I use the 👍🏽Webber baskets👍🏽 for less coals more cooking space for faster cooks as opposed to the
    👍🏽SnS👍🏽 more coals longer cooks and the optional water reservoir!

  • @Bryansreyes1
    @Bryansreyes1 5 лет назад +2

    Great test, as someone who is actually in the market for both of these and trying to find real unbiased results this is a tremendous video. Keep up the great work I will be looking out for future videos!

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      Thanks Bryan. I've always said if a pellet grill is what you need to make good BBQ, get one. If something makes your cooking life easier and makes you do it more. Get it!

  • @jdawgsbbq
    @jdawgsbbq 6 лет назад +7

    Shots fired, shots fired..... stop the fight, stop the fight. This is how you do a test!! Not that nonsense Meathead has been doing. Great video and good tests.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад

      Thanks! My only goal was to make a fair test and see what came of it.

  • @WeekendWarriorBBQ
    @WeekendWarriorBBQ 6 лет назад

    Nice job. I don't have a Weber so I was more interested in that pumpkin spice bologna lol.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +2

      I'm sorry to tell you this, but pumpkin spice bologna is just fake news! I thought that might be better than the roadkill other people ask about.

    • @WeekendWarriorBBQ
      @WeekendWarriorBBQ 6 лет назад

      Grill Top Experience that is hilarious 😂 thanks for the laugh

  • @Josef_R
    @Josef_R 4 года назад +1

    $20 vs. $100 investment.

  • @dmb3428
    @dmb3428 2 года назад +1

    I came to the conclusion that I like the weber baskets better, I like the fact they can be moved around easily, I place one on opposite sides of each other and indirect cook in the center of the grill . The sns does hold more charcoal and will last longer during a cook, however I found out while making baked potatoes that somehow the heat doesnt spread out inside the grill as well as having baskets on each side.
    Normally large potatoes would be done with the weber baskets in an hour, with the sns I had to cook them an extra 15-20min in order to get them done. The sns does get extremely hot for searing though, I just didnt like the indirect results .

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад

      Everyone should use what works for them. I tested both and the SNS produces more even temps on the indirect side because it blocks more radiant heat from the coals. That's an interesting result. I would have thought the same temp would result in the same cook time.

  • @UserUser-zm3fo
    @UserUser-zm3fo 3 года назад +1

    SNS is my choice. Cooks steaks and burgers better.

  • @jonathanblair289
    @jonathanblair289 4 года назад +1

    What the potato is going on here 👀 😂 cool video. Thanks 👍

  • @ColinaDePiedra
    @ColinaDePiedra 5 лет назад +2

    so the question is do you wanna pay 100 usd for sns lol

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      True. There are benefits beyond charcoal efficiency though. That wouldn't be a huge selling point for me.

    • @ColinaDePiedra
      @ColinaDePiedra 5 лет назад +1

      @@GrillTopExperience it just seems so overpriced

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      I get that. I had the same thoughts before I got one, then I bought one for my dad. He used it enough that he bought some of their other accessories too. Can you grill/smoke without it? Certainly, but it's made it easier for me and that makes it worth it.

    • @ColinaDePiedra
      @ColinaDePiedra 5 лет назад

      @@GrillTopExperience okay Maybe I will try it then, thanks :)

  • @ScottysBackYardBBQ
    @ScottysBackYardBBQ 11 месяцев назад

    over 45 years using a weber kettle. i need no baskets no lid gauge. i turn out great bbq with out all them gismos

  • @claytond6898
    @claytond6898 2 месяца назад

    Apples and oranges 👎🏻

  • @4000marcdman
    @4000marcdman 5 лет назад +1

    I think this turned into a slow and sear commercial, honestly. You said the second charcoal basket lasted .5 hours longer than the S&S. So then how does the slow and sear dictate the extra 100.00 in price over the baskets? Maybe the S&S needs a redesign. you all think if it had a pinch in the middle it would last longer?

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +1

      The only reason the baskets lasted longer was because the temperature dipped in the middle of the test when it didn't jump baskets. In this same video, I repeated the test with a successful bridge and they both went out at the same time. I don't think I would change the design of the Slow 'N Sear. The follow up video to this one showed that the Slow 'N Sear kept a more even temperature across the cooking surface. Is the SNS more efficient than the baskets? No, but it makes it much easier to cook on.

    • @GeeDeeBird
      @GeeDeeBird 5 лет назад

      @@GrillTopExperience If you're going to the trouble of cooking on a Weber kettle, how much easier is easier gonna be? I honestly don't see that much difference in the effort required between the two methods (excepting the failed bridge of course - but that's just a matter of experience) Anyway, good stuff. Cheers!

  • @metal1mark73
    @metal1mark73 4 года назад +1

    Smokenator 1000 beats both of these wana be Weber accessories!!!!

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I'm glad it works for you. I'm really happy with the SNS (and the original is cheaper too)

  • @arthursoto4285
    @arthursoto4285 2 года назад +1

    Dude thanks for making these videos!

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад

      You're welcome. That was a long night with nothing on the kettle!

  • @halmicroutsicos900
    @halmicroutsicos900 4 года назад +1

    Glad I stumbled across this, actually just bought both the SnS and the Weber baskets. Excited to try both!

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      Nice! You are all set and ready to go for anything that comes up.

  • @louisfain
    @louisfain 4 месяца назад

    I think the real efficiency comes from having a drip pan shaped just like the empty space on the charcoal grates so that all the air is re-directed through the charcoal to feed the flame; no air passes through the kettle without being heated up. on top of that, packing the fuel as tightly as possible also ensures no air "leaks" through. as long as you achieve that, all there left is conservation of energy. more fuel == more time; equal fuel == equal time; regardless of the baskets.

  • @ChristysCookingLifestyle
    @ChristysCookingLifestyle 6 лет назад +1

    Great tests!! I know in the Winter months the SNS was a life saver. Being able to dump the charcoal in and run back in the house, makes it well worth it😂

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад

      Thanks, Christy. Winter is coming and I'll have a chance to try it. The big charcoal capacity should help with staying inside too!

  • @surfingonmars8979
    @surfingonmars8979 Год назад

    Obsessive/compulsive much? That said, the SNS has the water system device…..

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  Год назад

      Yes, but you can't get the baskets to evaporate the same amount of water, so I eliminated that variable.

    • @surfingonmars8979
      @surfingonmars8979 Год назад

      @@GrillTopExperience ??

  • @johna9530
    @johna9530 4 года назад +2

    I don’t use any of the two, I just make a pile on the side.

    • @junebug9594
      @junebug9594 4 года назад

      So pure.

    • @Samantha_Says_
      @Samantha_Says_ 4 года назад

      Good 👍 for you.

    • @monkeyb1820
      @monkeyb1820 4 года назад

      after a while, that might lead to a slight pitting of the exterior paint job. So I think having the coals in some type of basket helps protect the grill itself.

    • @johna9530
      @johna9530 4 года назад +2

      Monkey Boy have been doing it for more than 5 years now, no issue.

    • @dglesterhardunkichud4017
      @dglesterhardunkichud4017 4 года назад +1

      I use two fire bricks. $20 slow and sear.

  • @tomdanes5859
    @tomdanes5859 5 лет назад +1

    I took both the Weber baskets apart and then screw them together so if they were the same size as the slow and sear guess what it works

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +1

      That's the bro N sear. Not as good, but a lot cheaper.

    • @GeeDeeBird
      @GeeDeeBird 5 лет назад +1

      @@GrillTopExperience Haven't seen the video that shows it's not as good.

  • @AA-wd2or
    @AA-wd2or 2 года назад

    You should use weber onese different .. rearange oposite way not to put charcoal inside but to make wall for unified semicircular place for charcoal.. its no need to buy new ones at all..only we need to use child part of brain and rearange them smart

  • @MikeHoncho884
    @MikeHoncho884 6 лет назад +6

    Great video! but I’ve never seen anyone do a bridge from basket to basket. Looks like a pain in the butt could create hotspots to the food that’s closer to the grate.What I have seen is a guy cut the ends off two baskets mismatch them a little bit and Boldt them together. To make one long basket. I’ll stick with the SnS👍

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +2

      You got it! It is a pain to use two baskets and I did one test where the 2nd one didn't light. In this test, the first charcoal basket didn't burn all of the charcoal. I'll stick with the Slow 'N Sear too.

  • @mrdilligaf1968
    @mrdilligaf1968 4 года назад

    Those little baskets are crap. Slow cooking alright , any slower and you'd be better off to use the home oven. I turn mine into a raging bon fire with huge flames , let it die down a little and cook. Job done.

  • @safinkasturi2000
    @safinkasturi2000 11 месяцев назад

    Nice vid, thanks. Can you pls make a vid of how to do a proper bridge with the weber baskets? I only have those, and want to try low n slow cook.

  • @burningkarma
    @burningkarma Год назад

    If I have the time to do a slow cook, slow n sear. If not, weber baskets. Both are excellent products.

  • @jcstewart1861
    @jcstewart1861 Год назад

    Should you always use both baskets?

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  Год назад

      One basket won't hold enough charcoal for a long cook. That's one benefit of the SNS

  • @jeramiehaney5535
    @jeramiehaney5535 Год назад

    For science

  • @stephenmoberg8807
    @stephenmoberg8807 4 месяца назад

    Zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • @terryhamilton985
    @terryhamilton985 2 года назад

    Exactly! Problem is takes 2 baskets for Weber charcoal basket method. I’ve used baskets and seams like there is always airflow issues.

  • @llemmon
    @llemmon Год назад

    Weber is more efficient when considering the enormous price difference

  • @THEREALSHOWBBQ
    @THEREALSHOWBBQ 6 лет назад

    Good test bro. I agree with other on the winter months. It would perform greater. I may have asked you this before. But are you running for your mic? The volume and clarity is spot on.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад +1

      The microphone is a Sony ECMCS3 lav mic hooked up to a a Tascam DR-05. I clean up the audio in Audacity and sync it to the video in post. The only bummer is it only works with 1 person and picks up the neighbors dog really well. I’m looking at trying a shotgun mic to see if I can get around that.
      I hope life is getting back to normal for you after the hurricane!
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  • @patrickhenry236
    @patrickhenry236 Год назад

    From this video to a commercial for SNS products 2 years later. Hmm

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  Год назад

      I guess they liked what they saw. This was produced before I had that kind of relationship with SNS.

    • @patrickhenry236
      @patrickhenry236 Год назад

      @@GrillTopExperience I know. I remember when both came out, and that you were critical of them once upon a time.
      I was just reminiscing, if you will, about how things change. Nothing wrong with that. As to the newer produced video, your presentation was very professional. So I hope you did not take what I was saying as an insult because I did not intend it to be one.
      I wish you the best with the upcoming grilling season, and want you to know your channel was one I recommended to a guy at work looking to get into charcoal for the first time.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  Год назад +1

      @@patrickhenry236 Thanks! A few people saw the videos out of context and assumed I was working with SNS when I made this video. It is hard to believe I made this four years ago. Thanks again for the support and sharing with your coworkers. It has been a blast.

  • @warmsteamingpile
    @warmsteamingpile 2 года назад

    I have to take the price of the S&S and I have the baskets. I have great results with the baskets.

  • @1dulceritmo
    @1dulceritmo 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks

  • @RichardCockerill
    @RichardCockerill 5 лет назад +1

    hmm need a seal lol

  • @taeum3062
    @taeum3062 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the comprehensive test! Exactly how I would have conducted the test. I was hesitant about the slow and sear for this exact conclusion and have simply used fire bricks to create my basket and have achieved great results on my 26.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +1

      That's another good method that people use to get similar results. That's the cool thing about the kettle. There are lots of mods you can do. Find what works for you and make great food.

  • @khanscombe619
    @khanscombe619 3 года назад

    More important things! (: heck yes, what an awesome dad Ur. Cool video.

  • @jcojrDTG
    @jcojrDTG 5 лет назад +1

    i threw thos baskets out by 2nd use.,. SNS is king

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      It's true. They are too small to be useful.

    • @schmartz99
      @schmartz99 5 лет назад

      The Weber baskets are handy for high temp grilling using indirect heat and reverse sear, at least on the 26" weber. They don't hold enough to do low and slow. I got a Smoke-EZ for my 26" weber and use the snake method. Similar to a UDS and works great. @@GrillTopExperience

  • @jdjorgensen9491
    @jdjorgensen9491 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent job! Nice to see a fairly run comparison.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад

      Thank you JD. I wanted to see what it would do under a fair test.

  • @Necrodoxious
    @Necrodoxious 3 года назад

    Obviously you cannot control the weather, but maybe the temperature highs/lows were attributed to weather fluctuates or gusts of wind.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  3 года назад

      Exactly, or a cloud or the setting sun. All of those should be the same between the two grills since they were right next to each other. Some people are really particular about hitting the perfect temp, but I'm not. My bigger concern is that the temps would run away when I'm not looking. Less variability gives me the confidence to walk away for a bit and not worry.

    • @Necrodoxious
      @Necrodoxious 3 года назад

      ​@@GrillTopExperience I suppose the variability would be diminished considering the fact that they two cookers have lids and a base, with, I imagine, identical vent positions.
      The only variable to consider elsewhere is airflow and inconsistency among said airflow. But, I suppose another important data point is how long does that differential stand true? With a spike in temperature if it was from 275 to 450, sure, but 275 to 260 (as an example), I don't think that really matters for practical purposes.
      I won't get into the whole, how was the grill oriented, was one biasing in an open area, etc. However, paying $100 for a 5-10 fahrenheit temperature differential is a moot point when compared to a basket that is $20 for 2.
      Hell, I could buy five sets of basket for the price of a single slow and sear and use the other four orders as test dummies for the water tray.
      Also: a cloud isn't changing much, maybe relative ambient, but this is a "closed" system so let's not get too ahead of ourselves. There are some of us out there that actually understand heat transfer, and in a pinch, could produce, via a simple sheet metal model utilizing an engineering software to simulate this "ingenious" (maybe even the draft angle that makes it so good at dispensing coals lol) design of a sheet metal holder. Hell, in fact, this is like a 5 minute model., a few extra minutes for the basic simulation.
      Furthermore, the whole talk about efficiency is also, just a tad bit, comical. Maybe price to performance and define those variables of efficiency, since, ya' know. Efficiency is relative.

  • @richardwalley2862
    @richardwalley2862 4 года назад

    I thought you were sponsored by or were buddies with adrenaline bbq? You did a video for them Raving on their products (got something for your positive review) then you do a video that says you don’t really need it? Can you explain yourself

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I have never accepted anything other than products to test from any company for any content on this channel. I was compensated to make a few videos for the Adrenaline BBQ channel (Now SNS Grills) and it shouldn't be a surprise that the primary purpose of those videos is an advertisement for their products. This video was made several months before they approached me about making content for them and that was only for a short time.

  • @dougharlow6037
    @dougharlow6037 4 года назад

    Does anyone make a smaller charcoal basket or charcoal seperator that will fit my Weber 14” portable smokey joe? So I can do indirect cooking. Thank

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I haven't seen any that'll fit anything less than the 18" grills. You may need to make something custom. You might try making a wall of aluminum foil as a test so you can get the size right.

  • @Gfoodcocina
    @Gfoodcocina 5 лет назад

    excellent

  • @danfalen7104
    @danfalen7104 4 года назад

    I'm not really sure that you named a winner?

  • @JustifyJustin
    @JustifyJustin 2 года назад

    Shouldn't one add water to the slow and sear - I mean, that's the main difference is the integrated water resevoir - otherwise you're just testing stainless steel recepticles?

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад

      Great point! The challenge is that water takes an incredible amount of energy to boil and evaporate. The Slow 'N Sear would evaporate all of the water, but putting a water pan in front of the coals probably wouldn't and that would skew the results.

  • @AbbyMom100
    @AbbyMom100 2 года назад

    Great vid. I don't know if you care, but another similar channel is Project Farm. This was very similar in many ways, and so I love it. The best explained, scientific breakdown of competing items, AND I love grilling. Great job

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад +2

      I love Project Farm. Thanks for the compliment. I watch his videos just to see how he tests things and am always surprised. I'm working to do a few more tests because they are fun!

  • @Nick-ih5em
    @Nick-ih5em 5 лет назад +2

    The SNS is a waste of money.

  • @waynethebarber1095
    @waynethebarber1095 2 года назад

    What if you set up the dual baskets one on each side and let them both at the same time then change events on both to achieve the 250 obviously the events will be different on the dual baskets and let the dual baskets burn slower but combined they have the same temperature that way you don't have to worry about a bridge.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  2 года назад

      I've tried that method, but not in an efficiency test. Separate baskets makes this complicated too because you have to manage two fires and it can be harder to get your temperatures down. I'm sure there are people out there that have mastered it.

  • @theoneforu69
    @theoneforu69 4 года назад

    My OCD kicked in right off the rip :)

  • @daddydutchbbq
    @daddydutchbbq 4 года назад

    Ryan, I would be interested to see you make a Bro N Sear out of the Weber baskets and compare the fuel usage. I'm not saying that they are the same at all,but the fuel capacity is really close. Great comparison and video . Well done Ryan .

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, Kent. I made a bro n sear last week and have been testing it. We'll see what comes of it!

    • @daddydutchbbq
      @daddydutchbbq 4 года назад

      Ryan , that's cool. I can't wait to see the results. I have never compared the two at all. Keep up the good videos ! Thanks Ryan.

  • @hoosierkettle605
    @hoosierkettle605 5 лет назад

    I’m not sure why the sns is compared to baskets. Why not run the test with banked charcoal and no baskets? A drip pan opposite of coals will contain them. You could even fill the pan with water and the sns with water. If you have time, run the test again. No bridge to fail and the drip pan method costs $0 dollars. Even better than baskets

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      This video was in response to another test using the baskets that used methods that had a few issues that skewed the test. There's another one similar to what you mentioned comparing the snake method and the SNS that had different results. The baskets keep the hot coals away from the kettle walls and I'd bet the bank method would be less efficient. I guess we won't know until we test it.

  • @LassesFoodAndBarbecue
    @LassesFoodAndBarbecue 6 лет назад

    Nice comparison Ryan. If i had one i would do a comparison in the winter. Cold enough here :)

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  6 лет назад

      Good idea Lasse! Hobol wants the test done on the North Pole and you are the closest person I know. :)

  • @doct0rnic
    @doct0rnic 4 года назад

    I use the smokenator which seems to be a forgotten technology in the bbq world and I do own the baskets never tried to bridge though, very interesting.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад +1

      Do you get good results from the smokenator? I've seen those for a long time and wondered how they work.

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess 4 года назад

    I’m late to the comments - just wanted to say I get the exact same results of a S&S by just blocking off 1/4 of the kettle w a couple firebricks and then using a water pan on the open side. It’s rough on the grills but they’re cheap enough I guess.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I've seen people do that with regular bricks. The firebrick is a better option than a standard red brick for sure! I guess it just depends on how much hassle you want to deal with. Some people like a pre-built solution.

  • @panagiotistheodorou4959
    @panagiotistheodorou4959 4 года назад

    You say Charcoal but you show brickets. Coal is too hot for Weber cookers...

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I think you might be getting the two mixed up. Charcoal is made from partially burned wood.

  • @mr.bonesbbq3288
    @mr.bonesbbq3288 5 лет назад

    I very much enjoyed yer testin methods, an explanation of yer whole process...thanks fer takin th time! I'm off to see yer pork but video, now...;-)

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      Thank you Mr. Bones. I wanted to be transparent in the process so others could give it a try too.

  • @bobjones01
    @bobjones01 4 года назад

    I have xl on 26” Weber and I barely get 6 hours at 250 degrees before I have to add charcoal..,,

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      I don't have a 26", but I'm surprised that the time doesn't match the smaller kettle since it holds more charcoal. That's good to keep in mind though.

  • @cfordnathan
    @cfordnathan 2 года назад

    Which potato turned out better

  • @TheRsbas
    @TheRsbas 3 года назад

    I gave you a like all though I feel no sense of accomplishment for watching this.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  3 года назад

      Thanks! I'll take that as a compliment. I don't feel accomplished watching most things on RUclips.

  • @RDXJKR
    @RDXJKR 4 года назад

    I noticed you work for the Adrenaline barbecue company, the makers of the Slow n Sear. Good video here, but one can't argue that there isn't a bias.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      It's important to not the timeline of events. I was not working with them when this video was made. My first video with them came much later.

  • @Flixan
    @Flixan Год назад +3

    I think the drip 'n' griddle pan is an important aspect to the SNS efficiency. It would be interesting to see a similar test re-run with this in place.

  • @GallaghersGrub
    @GallaghersGrub 5 лет назад

    Great vid. Just subbed

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад

      Thanks. I'm glad to see you back on RUclips. I'm excited to see the new place.

  • @josephflanagan2527
    @josephflanagan2527 3 года назад

    Have you guys ever put food on the charcoal grate that SnS sits on? If I can do that and cook two roasts in one kettle at the same time (1 on charcoal grate, 1 on grill grate) that would be a game changer.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  3 года назад

      They sell a Drip 'N Griddle pan that has a wire rack that goes inside of it. It fits perfectly in the empty space next to the SNS. I haven't tried it, but I know people who have. The only gotcha is the temperature is about 40 degrees lower than the cooking grate level so things take a bit longer to cook.

  • @dabearcub
    @dabearcub 4 года назад

    Do you have a link for the vent tabs?

  • @EarthRockerAdam
    @EarthRockerAdam 4 года назад

    Ho did the potatoes that were holding the probes turn out? You did cook those.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      You know, I don't remember! Those potatoes do a great service to the rest of the cook, but don't get any credit for their service.

  • @omar138
    @omar138 4 года назад

    I thought this was Idubbbz

  • @shumardi1
    @shumardi1 5 лет назад

    What if you lit both baskets at the same time but dampened them down so that when burning together they would maintain 250 F Then you wouldn't worry about the bridge.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +1

      That's a good question. I'm not sure what would happen, but I have a couple questions that it would answer: 1) Could you get the temp down if you lit both sides and 2) Would lighting at both ends make it burn out faster?

  • @IRgEEK
    @IRgEEK 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video. What was the reason of adding the potato? @7:36

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  4 года назад

      It was just to hold the probe off the charcoal grate so I could get a good temp.

  • @xringkiller
    @xringkiller 5 лет назад

    Show this using the slow n sear like the company recommends. Lighting from one end and adding water. It makes a difference.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks for noticing! About 3 months after this ABC asked me to make the how to light the Slow N Sear video. I skipped the water because it would evaporate in the SNS and not in the baskets. It takes a lot if energy to boil water and it would have been less efficient. This made it a fair fight.

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac 5 лет назад

    This comparisons just seems like basket small vs basket bigger.

    • @GrillTopExperience
      @GrillTopExperience  5 лет назад +1

      You are right, the Slow 'N Sear is about 2x bigger than the baskets. While there wasn't a big difference in efficiency, the next video showed that the SNS cooks much more evenly than the baskets.