I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the movie era ship designs, especially the Miranda, Constituion refit, and Constellation class, are the best. Great work.
We need two new series with a young Picard from the Naussican incident to the invention of the Picard maneuver ending with his taking command of the Enterprise-D. For the second season, we keep hearing about Mogh, Worf biological father. What was he like who was his wife like to birth Worf and Kurn, what really happened on khitomer
I get a huge boner for Excelsior class. I'm glad the showmakers were lazy and kept it around. It made the ship even better! Imagine making a class of ships so awesome they just keep refitting it and basically kept the almost exact design for a hundred years.. Lol take that Constitution! Take that Constellation! Take that Miranda! And in the Lower Decks, you can see they refitted it AGAIN with sovereign style in warp nacels!!
Andrew Blanchard the Genesis Device detonating and quoting Moby Dick does a pretty good job of saying "I hate you and just die" too. It also says "if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me"
@@JohnMasterCheif If you're a starship, activating the auto-destruct sequence and killing the boarding party who plans to take Information from you after killing your captain's son does a fine job of saying "Fuck YOU in particular" as well
It's funny how this video showed that Picard lost the Stargazer just 9 years before he took command of the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D which either was just starting construction at the Utopia Planitia Shipyards in Mars orbit or was still on the drawing boards with it's initial design being worked out by her designers along with her sister ships the U.S.S. Galaxy and the U.S.S. Yamato when the Battle of Maxia occured.
USS galaxy was the test bed. They used her to iron the kinks out. Yamato was the first ship off the production line. After they opted to name the 3rd ship Enterprise and declare her flagship of the fleet they built several more and a significant number of sub assemblies cached at various yards. During the dominion war this allowed Starfleet to literally slap together several Galaxy class ships in weeks
Of course, they only survived seven weeks in shuttles by eating two midshipmen and the ship's barber. Bet they don't tell about THAT at Starfleet Academy. Oh no.
From what I've heard Ferengi ships at that time didn't have sensors like a starfleet ship had. They didn't have the ftl subspace sensors, just regular light speed sensors. So when Picard warped at the Ferengi ship, when he arrived light was still coming from the previous location as well as the new location, so it looked like the ship was in two places at once. The Ferengi were still attacking the old ship image while the Stargazer unleashed a barrage of fire at point blank range at the same time.
Wasn't it a hail mary? as the sublight was down and only a burst of warp left... let them get in and fire knowing they will back off because its better for profit to capture than destroy. Once they think the ship is defenseless they come about and lower sheilds to board, warp then jab them with the phasers and a salvo of photon torps. No profit.
As I understand it that's how the Piccard maneuver is described, but the author of the video added a cool feature which was firing the torpedoes from the previous position before the warp jump. Thus not only creating the mirror image, but also a false sense of being attacked from two vectors.
Awesome recreation, but I recently rewatched "The Battle" and I have one "nitpick". During his hallucinations under the control of the thoughtmaker device Picard recalled being told by another bridge officer that the attackers were coming back around for a third pass. Other than that, even eight years later this looks great!
I believe Picard's retaliation was justified. Unknown Ferengi vessel attacked the Stargazer without warning, provocation, nor justification. So yeah, someone attacks you, assuming you're able to, you attack back harder than you were attacked. :)
@@Garvey64LIVE64 Thankfully, I only had to do that once in my life. Someone made a derogatory joke toward me. I told the person to *"shut up",* that *"if he wasn't going to talk respectfully towards me that he was going to wish he hadn't".* He continued calling me names before I sucker punched him in the chest and elbowed him in the back.
Actually it was only 9 years prior to the Enterprise D launching. The battle you referred to is the one in which Stargazers prior captain was killed and Picard took command. He spent over 20 years on Stargazer as the captain.
The best defensive maneuver is a preemptive offensive maneuver. Those photon torpedoes and phaser blasts should have been the first order of business. Not sitting there doing nothing while an unknown (and potentially hostile) alien ship rapidly approaches without provocation nor any attempt at communication.
@@nodak81 you need to remember that the federations(aka Starfleet) policy when finding new races and civilizations is to *never fire first only fire when fired upon* or if the unknown vessel shows hostile intent.
Actually the JJ films are quite unimaginative (re-using established characters, recycling stories with minor twists etc.). As for a "grand story arc" similar to something out of DS9 you have me lost. I would be more than happy for new experiences, i.e. new characters, new stories, new ideas. It's odd to say he is a bangwagon jumper when in my experience the biggest bandwagon around is composed of people who will not except criticism of the films in any way.
This is the greatest 3D sim of trek I've ever seen. I can't begin to explain the pride and joy I feel in seeing this and can only vaguely imagine the work put into it. On a techncial side I give it 100 out of 100. On an artistic side of knowing good emotional cinemotography and star trek drama I give it 115 out of 100. Purely the best thing out there. You need to do movies, totally.
I'm so late on discovering this but it's absolutely amazing work! I loved the lingering distant shots of the Stargazer passing the planets in system, it really gave a wonderful sense of the immensity of outer space, making the whole thing feel more like a lonely frontier. Magnificent. And the torpedo volley being fired at where the target is going to be rather than a direct close range shot was wonderful too, so often in ST the ship to ship engagements are portrayed at such close ranges. I love this so much, thank you for all your work and for sharing it! :)
The options are either this or the thing from Star Trek Legacy for how Picard took command of the Stargazer. Personally I prefer legacy's version as it involved Picard taking command and promptly setting to work, coordinating a small task force to save 3 planets from destruction.
It's written in a Star Trek novel that Picard has put the ship on course to burn up in a planet's atmosphere. The text caption near the end explains that the rescue ship searched for the Stargazer to secure Federation technology, but they were unable to find it.
@BFGfreak Yes the manoeuvre is "slowed down" here to emphasise the effect. It was done even more so in the episode "The Battle". Even at a distance of the moon from the earth the light would catch up after one second, and the ship in the episode appears in two places for ages even though it has moved only about 1km in the warp jump judging from the view.
Dont change, it is perfect. In fact after DS9 we have many fast paste battles. For me the best battle is balance of terror, slow that show how each commander take key decisions to the moment. Your clip show the how the Stargazer was desperated under fire and Picard found a way to overcome. Feel real to me :)
Yes that would be an important procedure to prevent the technology from falling into the wrong hands. According to a novel that references these events, the auto destruct was offline and the ship was set on course to burn up in a planet's atmosphere. Presumably Daimon Bok found it before it had burnt up and took it before the USS Zhao returned to check. Hence no trace of the ship.
Nicely done and it makes me really happy to see my Zhao being used in an animation as good as this. I'm really surprised at how good it did turn out being so low-poly. I keep thinking or doing those ships again in much more accurate and higher poly versions.
Actually Picard took command of the Stargazer in 2333 during a different completely battle (one version is portrayed in the novel "The Valiant"). This battle took place in 2355, 9 years before TNG season 1 (2364).
So Picard was a captain of the same ship for almost 20 years and never got promoted to Admiral during that time? Sounds like a dead career if you ask me.
Me too, but Trek got it from the '53 War of The World's movie. When I was a kid my buddy and I use to throw rocks at our towns water tower. It was a huge drum from the ground up and the top of it was an overhanging saucer shape that looked just like the Jupiter 2, which was very cool. Anyway, when you hit it with a rock it sounded EXACTLY like a photon torpedo. I've always figured that's where they got the sound.
You know every time I watch this video I can't help but notice how the music tone of this video sounds almost like the music score from Star Trek the Motion Picture.
I'm speechless. VERY good renderings of all the ships and the Maxia Zeta system. You even threw in a score remininscent of the early days of Star Trek The Next Generation. Some crew and bridge scene renderings would've been nice, but I have to agree with another commentator on here; better than anything Paramount ever came up with!
Beautiful work! You really did a great job of capturing the style of the special effects used in the series. The explosions and sounds truly emulate those seen in TNG and the Trek movies but what's most impressive, is that you can tell this story without a single line of dialogue. You even capture the sense of isolation and uncertainty that the crew would have felt traveling in shuttles for 7 weeks, leaving behind the ship that they used to call home. Space opera at it's finest... Bravo!
Finally, Stargazer was shown in during the early first-season STNG episode set in the 24th Century (c. 2363 CE) while the new Constellation-class was mention in out-takes from the the Star Trek IV film set in 2293 CE. That's 70 years -- a long time to be experimental.
Odd to abandon ship. Even if life support fails, you still should have space suits. Besides, there must be life support in all the lifeboats! The original ship is likely to have stuff that can help you, unless it is about to blow up..
The first batch of Constellation Class ships had defective fire suppression systems that were later fixed, but the Stargazer never got around to having the newer systems installed due to being on such long term missions.
Yeah never understood that since the ship really didnt seem all that damaged years later. Seems like you vent her to space, kill the fires, then slowly try to make some kind of repairs. At least to the Communications systems. For atmosphere fix transporters and beam oxygen up from the planet, or surely the ship carries some back up atmosphere. Better to limp home in a wrecked ship than hope shuttlecraft make it that far as slow as they were. Even if Warp is out, still trying to fix commo would mean a faster rescue. And I doubt all 4 warp nacelles were out.
I would love to watch a Stargazer series, I think it could be really interesting. Also really, really want a Riker/Troi Titan series... but with Picard now out I suppose they are too old for one and I wouldn't want to see them recast for Titan...
That would be standard procedure I would have thought. In a novel it's stated that the system was off-line, so Picard ordered the ship be put on a trajectory to burn up in a planet's atmosphere.
Re. superhero-like characters, I believe I adequately explained what I mean in my previous comments. I don't deny they are successful movies but I think Star Trek has always been better as episodic TV which can tell stories and explore issues without having to have a villain hell-bent on destroying the Earth. To be honest I'd rather not argue about it. I don't have a hate campaign against them, I just ignore them.
brams has said he is not a fan of "old" Star Trek, how can you be inspired by something you dislike? I don't hate everything that's new, in fact if this film wasn't a Star Trek film and had its own characters I might enjoy it. When TNG came out (I'm too young to rmbr this) people were up in arms about new destroying what was good about the old etc. We can look back now and see how ridiculous that was. This is totally different. Anyhow I respect the views of anyone who thinks differently.
5:55 a close up of the front of the Constellation class USS STARGAZER it looks like a 24th century version of the NX-01 class deflector the forward grill is actually the deflector dish , it wasn't lit for some reason , but if you buy the constellation class model , the instruction sheet tells you that you can use either dark faded blue or dark grey/gold depending on your preference , I say buy both & do them both ways. 😃
in the war games episode riker is in command of the USS hathaway, which is the same class of ship as the stargazer. if i remember right, there is something about that class of ship that allows riker to pull off the manuever. riker was studying picard's service record to get an idea of his tactics so he could beat him.
What was never explained in TNG, was why Picard didn't set the auto destruct before abandoning the Stargazer. The ship was set adrift for anyone, in this case the Ferengi, to capture, basically intact.
A backstory in a novel explains that the systems to do that were offline. So Picard ordered the ship to be put on a course to burn up in a gas giant's atmosphere, but it was retrieved by Bok before that happened.
-Completely devoid of Gene Roddenberry's philosophy -Recycled scenes from previous movies as misplaced homages that don't work because the characters are not as dear to us. E.g. Spock and Kirk have hardly known each other and not been through all the events of TOS (Edith Keeler, Pon Farr etc.) that actually establishes their relationship. -Characters have superhero-like abilities rather than being human. Emphasis being on the physical rather than societal/cultural improvement of humankind
During the battle, the captain and first officer of the Stargazer were killed and Jean-Luc Picard took command and became the acting C.O., but at that time, he only had the rank of lieutenant.
@@jimkirk216 The Legacy incident that killed the Stargazer's original captain was years before the Battle of Maxia. In fact, the Battle of Maxia was nine years before Picard took command of the Enterprise-D.
The Stargazer, according to Trek hisyory, was build around 2276. Now, if it was commissioned & went active by 2290, it still would be over 35 years old. (The Ambassador class was already around while Picard was still in command of the Stargazer.) In a TNG episode, the Hathawatwas said to be 80 years old.....If the Ferengi ship was new tech, the Stargazer was already outdated, especially if she was caught with shields down.
@FLAME4564 Thanks. It was a Ferengi scout ship called "Seventy-Fifth Rule" according to the the TNG novel The Buried Age. That rule is: "Home is where the heart is, but the stars are made of latinum."
military protocol, they would have destroyed the ship, no way would they leave it unattended, after an attack. we scuttle ships and aircraft are equipped with systems that fry the electronics.
Yeah, backstory in a novel explains that the systems to do that were offline. So Picard ordered the ship to be put on course to burn up in a gas giant's atmosphere, but it was retrieved by Bok before that happened.
Starfleet is not a military force as we know it. No reason to think that they would follow the same doctrines as a modern military esp if they were not currently at war.
***** Starfleet is not a modern military. It is a collection of scientists and explorers that can show their teeth when needed. They live (in this timeframe) in a world with little strife. A failed pirate attack would not necessarily trigger wartime security measures i.e. scuttling disabled starships.
By far one of the best, if not the best animations on star trek out on RUclips, fantastic, we all appreciate your fine work, thanks.... And please do more ;) Adam
Okay. I'm new to this channel. Are these stories Canon; from books and movies? Or are you just making stuff up? Either way it's very well done and I enjoy watching.
Never really understood the motive behind the Ferengi attack. Bok's later actions could perhaps be explained by his want of revenge for the death of his son, but why did his son attack the Stargazer in the first place? What rationale would make it something Ferengi would do? Fearing the Stargazer would seize some of the system's mineral wealth/interfere in their profits, perhaps (making the attack 'profitable' if it succeeded)?
The Ferrengi operate on the principle that if you can steal it, profit from it. They probably wanted the Photon Torpedoes, or everything the could jack from the ship.
There was an era in Starfleet's history where someone had bypassed the Starboard Aesthetic Interlock... good lord the Constellation and Oberth class ships were ugly.
It's closer to NCC-1701-A (My absolute favorite 1701) on the outside so its pleasing in that way but I somewhat dislike the interior it really doesn't work for me per se.
Disagreeing is entirely ok. =) Sure the nacelles and the pylons are different, but I was mostly commenting upon the general flavor. I still prefer the TOS version.
I didn't think the Obereth class was ugly, just silly (you can't get into that huge secondary hull). The Constellation was just a kitbash originally intended only as a model for Picard's office. It really has a thrown together, kitbashed look rather than an elegant design.
The Federation picked it up and rebuilt it to be used again. Had to delete that, STO says that the Stargazer help prelude the Stargazer class and it's first name was the USS Stargazer-A
Alex zander Sorry I'm late but no, there is a USS Intrepid-A but the reason the Stargazer-A was build is because the original Stargazer was retired or decommissioned. So Starfleet built the Stargazer-A to be the prototype for the stargazer class
I agree, Star fleet is the combined tech and minds of over a hundred races... Any other race would love to get their hands on it, even if its old. In a TNG episode when the Romulan human dude defects to stop a war, Gordie talks about how the Romulans are able to control the power level of their weapons and etc... He says it in a way like no other race is able to do it. except starfleet and romulans
This was excellent! Of course there was an investigation and Picard was grilled hard by the prosecuting officer in charge, Phillipa. Picard was eventually exonorated and commended for his performance in handling a crisis.
Thanks! Yes, I wouldn't even attempt modeling people realistically, I would rather use actors on green screen! Picard simply says they drifted for weeks until they were picked up, so the details of that I added in as I saw fit. Jack Crusher died a year before this battle on an away mission, hence the lack of any conversation about it between Beverly and Picard in "The Battle".
The idea is past a certain speed, sensors incorrectly detect the target ship being in the wrong position, or detect there being more than one of it, meaning weapons are useless against that ship while it can still fire upon you, while effectively entirely safe from retaliation fire.
To be fair, the Warp Nacelle's are strung out on the outside of the ship like that because they have tendency to go BOOM. As for the bridge, since TNG I think all ships have had a Battle Bridge in the heart of the ship - the only remaining mistake is that the Captain doesn't fight the ship from the battle bridge.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done in every way shape and form and in every detail executed as well a very great job indeed, And the Constellation class has always been one of my all time favorite starship designs as well as the Miranda class and various others like her as well!,👌.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the movie era ship designs, especially the Miranda, Constituion refit, and Constellation class, are the best. Great work.
We need two new series with a young Picard from the Naussican incident to the invention of the Picard maneuver ending with his taking command of the Enterprise-D.
For the second season, we keep hearing about Mogh, Worf biological father. What was he like who was his wife like to birth Worf and Kurn, what really happened on khitomer
I get a huge boner for Excelsior class. I'm glad the showmakers were lazy and kept it around. It made the ship even better! Imagine making a class of ships so awesome they just keep refitting it and basically kept the almost exact design for a hundred years.. Lol take that Constitution! Take that Constellation! Take that Miranda!
And in the Lower Decks, you can see they refitted it AGAIN with sovereign style in warp nacels!!
Amen bro amen
Lets just hope that they decide to keep Picard like he is and don't change his race
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
nothing says
"I hate you and just die"
like 8 photon torpedoes
Andrew Blanchard the Genesis Device detonating and quoting Moby Dick does a pretty good job of saying "I hate you and just die" too. It also says "if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me"
or just "fuck YOU in particular"
Or 8 quantum torpedoes
@@JohnMasterCheif If you're a starship, activating the auto-destruct sequence and killing the boarding party who plans to take Information from you after killing your captain's son does a fine job of saying "Fuck YOU in particular" as well
Hear, Hear.
"We are forced to abandon our starship. May she find her way without us." - Jean-Luc Picard, Captain USS Stargazer.
It's funny how this video showed that Picard lost the Stargazer just 9 years before he took command of the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D which either was just starting construction at the Utopia Planitia Shipyards in Mars orbit or was still on the drawing boards with it's initial design being worked out by her designers along with her sister ships the U.S.S. Galaxy and the U.S.S. Yamato when the Battle of Maxia occured.
USS galaxy was the test bed. They used her to iron the kinks out. Yamato was the first ship off the production line. After they opted to name the 3rd ship Enterprise and declare her flagship of the fleet they built several more and a significant number of sub assemblies cached at various yards. During the dominion war this allowed Starfleet to literally slap together several Galaxy class ships in weeks
It's also funny that stargazer was destroyed 9 years ago and the NCC of Enterprise (1701) sums up to 9
Of course, they only survived seven weeks in shuttles by eating two midshipmen and the ship's barber. Bet they don't tell about THAT at Starfleet Academy. Oh no.
Can you blame them? Picard himself never fully recovered from that barbers last hair cut.. and I heard the mids were pretty unpopular louts too.
i thought it was always the redshirts that get sacrificed first?
I never thought Bolians would be edible.
They taste like blueberries.
@@fabulousprofound all the redshirts died during the attack.
From what I've heard Ferengi ships at that time didn't have sensors like a starfleet ship had. They didn't have the ftl subspace sensors, just regular light speed sensors. So when Picard warped at the Ferengi ship, when he arrived light was still coming from the previous location as well as the new location, so it looked like the ship was in two places at once. The Ferengi were still attacking the old ship image while the Stargazer unleashed a barrage of fire at point blank range at the same time.
freshdoug good call and well said.
Science
Wasn't it a hail mary? as the sublight was down and only a burst of warp left... let them get in and fire knowing they will back off because its better for profit to capture than destroy. Once they think the ship is defenseless they come about and lower sheilds to board, warp then jab them with the phasers and a salvo of photon torps. No profit.
Certainly makes sense.
As I understand it that's how the Piccard maneuver is described, but the author of the video added a cool feature which was firing the torpedoes from the previous position before the warp jump. Thus not only creating the mirror image, but also a false sense of being attacked from two vectors.
Awesome recreation, but I recently rewatched "The Battle" and I have one "nitpick". During his hallucinations under the control of the thoughtmaker device Picard recalled being told by another bridge officer that the attackers were coming back around for a third pass.
Other than that, even eight years later this looks great!
I believe Picard's retaliation was justified. Unknown Ferengi vessel attacked the Stargazer without warning, provocation, nor justification. So yeah, someone attacks you, assuming you're able to, you attack back harder than you were attacked. :)
If you someone walks up to you and punches you in the gut, without any context or warning, as yours aid, you have full dibs to knock them out
@@Garvey64LIVE64 I agree totally.
@@Garvey64LIVE64 Thankfully, I only had to do that once in my life. Someone made a derogatory joke toward me. I told the person to *"shut up",* that *"if he wasn't going to talk respectfully towards me that he was going to wish he hadn't".* He continued calling me names before I sucker punched him in the chest and elbowed him in the back.
@@Garvey64LIVE64 I’ll remember that if your sister or brother or mom or dad even remotely touch with me. We knock out
".......35 years later...."
_enter the Galaxy-class Enterprise D it all it's glory_
Galaxy class shopping mall
*Now with children
@@salih-khan and pets.
Actually it was only 9 years prior to the Enterprise D launching. The battle you referred to is the one in which Stargazers prior captain was killed and Picard took command. He spent over 20 years on Stargazer as the captain.
@@Thurgosh_OG and for some unknown reason no command to instantly fire back after enemy attack
4:49, I absolutely love it when the lights on the nacelles come on. You know something awesome is going to happen!
Picard Manuever - The best defensive manuever!!
I kind of like the Riker manuver too.....might get smashed up but y'all survive 😉😉
Both work great for straightening your shirt, too.
The best defensive maneuver is a preemptive offensive maneuver. Those photon torpedoes and phaser blasts should have been the first order of business. Not sitting there doing nothing while an unknown (and potentially hostile) alien ship rapidly approaches without provocation nor any attempt at communication.
@@nodak81 you need to remember that the federations(aka Starfleet) policy when finding new races and civilizations is to *never fire first only fire when fired upon* or if the unknown vessel shows hostile intent.
5:10 Captain how many torpedoes
fuck it all of them
Hahaha just like Nero
Daniel Heywood *FIRE EVERYTHING!
Daniel Heywood That was funny, but what bugs me is that it fired five out of the top launchers, where there would only be four.
In the episode he did say "We fired everything we had"
Actually the JJ films are quite unimaginative (re-using established characters, recycling stories with minor twists etc.). As for a "grand story arc" similar to something out of DS9 you have me lost. I would be more than happy for new experiences, i.e. new characters, new stories, new ideas. It's odd to say he is a bangwagon jumper when in my experience the biggest bandwagon around is composed of people who will not except criticism of the films in any way.
Damn, did the Stargazer fire enough torpedoes? Talk about slapping someone around.
That's the Starfleet equivalent of the ol' 'Nuke 'em from orbit' meme. :D
naw sorry, its not "nuke em from orbit" its "nuke em till they glow" thats todays wording, best line there is.
@@normdoty more like the Starfleet equivalent of splitting someone's wig to the white meat, to quote Big Herc
Fricken little ship had more ballz than most of the bigger ships firing a volley of red spicy hot meat ballz
Nope clearly needed more. There were a few molecules not turned into superheated plasma
This is the greatest 3D sim of trek I've ever seen. I can't begin to explain the pride and joy I feel in seeing this and can only vaguely imagine the work put into it. On a techncial side I give it 100 out of 100. On an artistic side of knowing good emotional cinemotography and star trek drama I give it 115 out of 100. Purely the best thing out there. You need to do movies, totally.
Here's to Jean-Luc Picard!
1987-2002.....
"Excuse me... Is there a... John Luck Pickerd around?"
Q
I'm so late on discovering this but it's absolutely amazing work! I loved the lingering distant shots of the Stargazer passing the planets in system, it really gave a wonderful sense of the immensity of outer space, making the whole thing feel more like a lonely frontier. Magnificent.
And the torpedo volley being fired at where the target is going to be rather than a direct close range shot was wonderful too, so often in ST the ship to ship engagements are portrayed at such close ranges.
I love this so much, thank you for all your work and for sharing it! :)
So that's what happened? I'll consider this canon. Awesome work.
This seems to be more or less based of Buried Age, which is a book about Picard leading to his captainsy of the Enterprise-D
@@JDavies345 what season and episode is it
@@dustin2264 season 1 episode 8
The options are either this or the thing from Star Trek Legacy for how Picard took command of the Stargazer.
Personally I prefer legacy's version as it involved Picard taking command and promptly setting to work, coordinating a small task force to save 3 planets from destruction.
It's written in a Star Trek novel that Picard has put the ship on course to burn up in a planet's atmosphere. The text caption near the end explains that the rescue ship searched for the Stargazer to secure Federation technology, but they were unable to find it.
@BFGfreak
Yes the manoeuvre is "slowed down" here to emphasise the effect. It was done even more so in the episode "The Battle". Even at a distance of the moon from the earth the light would catch up after one second, and the ship in the episode appears in two places for ages even though it has moved only about 1km in the warp jump judging from the view.
Dont change, it is perfect.
In fact after DS9 we have many fast paste battles. For me the best battle is balance of terror, slow that show how each commander take key decisions to the moment.
Your clip show the how the Stargazer was desperated under fire and Picard found a way to overcome. Feel real to me :)
Yes that would be an important procedure to prevent the technology from falling into the wrong hands. According to a novel that references these events, the auto destruct was offline and the ship was set on course to burn up in a planet's atmosphere. Presumably Daimon Bok found it before it had burnt up and took it before the USS Zhao returned to check. Hence no trace of the ship.
Nicely done and it makes me really happy to see my Zhao being used in an animation as good as this. I'm really surprised at how good it did turn out being so low-poly. I keep thinking or doing those ships again in much more accurate and higher poly versions.
Stargazer: *Launches 8 torpedos after a phaser barrage*
Nothing says fuck you like a shit ton of pew pew
Actually Picard took command of the Stargazer in 2333 during a different completely battle (one version is portrayed in the novel "The Valiant").
This battle took place in 2355, 9 years before TNG season 1 (2364).
gIvE mE yOuR pRoFiT
So Picard was a captain of the same ship for almost 20 years and never got promoted to Admiral during that time?
Sounds like a dead career if you ask me.
@@magicstix0r remember the advice of kirk? captan is clearly the best place to be
@@jimskywaker4345 You don't get a choice as to whether or not you're promoted in the navy.
Legend has it that the Ferengi Captain said, "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
It was his epitaph.
He probably spat in disgust that the Federation would waste that many. He understands wanting someone dead, but there is always overhead to consider.
Love that sound of the photon torpedos being fired!
Me too, but Trek got it from the '53 War of The World's movie.
When I was a kid my buddy and I use to throw rocks at our towns water tower. It was a huge drum from the ground up and the top of it was an overhanging saucer shape that looked just like the Jupiter 2, which was very cool. Anyway, when you hit it with a rock it sounded EXACTLY like a photon torpedo. I've always figured that's where they got the sound.
Its 2018 and its still one of the best star trek videos I’ve ever seen. Good job
Very incredible Story. Looks really cool. Very capable production and nice FX. Thanks.
You know every time I watch this video I can't help but notice how the music tone of this video sounds almost like the music score from Star Trek the Motion Picture.
I'm speechless. VERY good renderings of all the ships and the Maxia Zeta system. You even threw in a score remininscent of the early days of Star Trek The Next Generation. Some crew and bridge scene renderings would've been nice, but I have to agree with another commentator on here; better than anything Paramount ever came up with!
And all of that could have been avoided if the ferengi would have hail the Stargazer and said you in our space!
5:06--"PHASERS, FIRE! TORPEDOES AWAY!"
Beautiful work! You really did a great job of capturing the style of the special effects used in the series. The explosions and sounds truly emulate those seen in TNG and the Trek movies but what's most impressive, is that you can tell this story without a single line of dialogue. You even capture the sense of isolation and uncertainty that the crew would have felt traveling in shuttles for 7 weeks, leaving behind the ship that they used to call home. Space opera at it's finest... Bravo!
ALL HANDS, ABANDON SHIP! ALL HANDS, ABANDON SHI-
abandon *SHIT* ?
That line was from "Cause and Effect".
I read that in Picard's voice
ALL HANDS ABANDON SHIP! REPEAT! ALL HANDS ABANDON-
This is Capt. Bateson, commander and psychiatrist of this vessel, do you need assistance?
I love the intro.. "THE BATTE OF MAXIA!"
I've always wanted to see how this battle would turn out. And might I say that this is pure AWESOMENESS!
Finally, Stargazer was shown in during the early first-season STNG episode set in the 24th Century (c. 2363 CE) while the new Constellation-class was mention in out-takes from the the Star Trek IV film set in 2293 CE. That's 70 years -- a long time to be experimental.
Odd to abandon ship. Even if life support fails, you still should have space suits. Besides, there must be life support in all the lifeboats!
The original ship is likely to have stuff that can help you, unless it is about to blow up..
The first batch of Constellation Class ships had defective fire suppression systems that were later fixed, but the Stargazer never got around to having the newer systems installed due to being on such long term missions.
@@Scioneer what about the fire suppression systems???
That's the console that caught fire!!!!
@@richardched6085 nice orville reference
@@SuperGamefreak18 thx. I had just watched it on hulu as i was writing that comment lol.
Yeah never understood that since the ship really didnt seem all that damaged years later. Seems like you vent her to space, kill the fires, then slowly try to make some kind of repairs. At least to the Communications systems. For atmosphere fix transporters and beam oxygen up from the planet, or surely the ship carries some back up atmosphere. Better to limp home in a wrecked ship than hope shuttlecraft make it that far as slow as they were. Even if Warp is out, still trying to fix commo would mean a faster rescue. And I doubt all 4 warp nacelles were out.
It was an antique before Picard even became its captain. It's like someone finding an abandoned van out by the road that's been there for 30 years.
I wish someone would let me out of this basement :(
No we need more videos
that video was great it really showed the uss stargazers last voyage and the 3d effects were brilliant
i love the work you guys did with the Oberth class !!
That is a Constellstion class
As a Trekky....thank you for coming up with a video that filled the gaps from an interesting episode of NG.....I appreciate it very much....
I would love to watch a Stargazer series, I think it could be really interesting.
Also really, really want a Riker/Troi Titan series... but with Picard now out I suppose they are too old for one and I wouldn't want to see them recast for Titan...
That would be standard procedure I would have thought. In a novel it's stated that the system was off-line, so Picard ordered the ship be put on a trajectory to burn up in a planet's atmosphere.
Re. superhero-like characters, I believe I adequately explained what I mean in my previous comments.
I don't deny they are successful movies but I think Star Trek has always been better as episodic TV which can tell stories and explore issues without having to have a villain hell-bent on destroying the Earth.
To be honest I'd rather not argue about it. I don't have a hate campaign against them, I just ignore them.
It took me a few minutes to notice that it was fanmade. Great job pal !
brams has said he is not a fan of "old" Star Trek, how can you be inspired by something you dislike?
I don't hate everything that's new, in fact if this film wasn't a Star Trek film and had its own characters I might enjoy it. When TNG came out (I'm too young to rmbr this) people were up in arms about new destroying what was good about the old etc. We can look back now and see how ridiculous that was. This is totally different.
Anyhow I respect the views of anyone who thinks differently.
Have always loved that design and the TOS aesthetics.
Great Oberth I've never seen one in that configuration before.
Thats not an Oberth. Its Constellation-Class
chrismc410 I think that they're referring to the Schmidt variant of the Oberth class starship.
Really good work there. Stuck for words, but really good so see one of those big events that is only really mentioned in the past tense.
5:55
a close up of the front of the Constellation class
USS STARGAZER
it looks like a 24th century version of the
NX-01 class deflector
the forward grill is actually the deflector dish , it wasn't lit for some reason , but if you buy the constellation class model , the instruction sheet tells you that you can use either dark faded blue or dark grey/gold depending on your preference , I say buy both & do them both ways.
😃
I wonder where the Navigational Deflector was on the Miranda class.
@@richardched6085 Must be built in somewhere, as the deflector also protects the ship from space dust at high speeds.
@@BNuts might be in the center of the Roll-Bar in between the 2 Forward Torpedo Launch Tubes.
No Andy, that's the main Hangar Deck.
www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/lcars24/lcars24-sheet-28.jpg
@@richardched6085
probably on the top
weapons platform
An ASMR Star Trek episode - what a great idea!
5:12 "Give them a volley!" :D
Thx for this link! So satisfying to watch repeatedly!
in the war games episode riker is in command of the USS hathaway, which is the same class of ship as the stargazer. if i remember right, there is something about that class of ship that allows riker to pull off the manuever. riker was studying picard's service record to get an idea of his tactics so he could beat him.
What was never explained in TNG, was why Picard didn't set the auto destruct before abandoning the Stargazer. The ship was set adrift for anyone, in this case the Ferengi, to capture, basically intact.
A backstory in a novel explains that the systems to do that were offline. So Picard ordered the ship to be put on a course to burn up in a gas giant's atmosphere, but it was retrieved by Bok before that happened.
@@VideoSpaceFX just set a hand Phaser on overload next to the Warp core. Should take care of the Stargazer.
Because the writers didn't think of that.
Yes that's right he was captain of the Stargazer for an incredible 22 years before this battle.
Picard was a career captain....22 years on Stargazer and how many more years on Enterprise-D and E before he left Starfleet?
Left to drift for 9 years
Excellent Attention to Detail. Shows a great love and respect for the quality Of The sense of Being in the surroundings of Star Trek.
-Completely devoid of Gene Roddenberry's philosophy
-Recycled scenes from previous movies as misplaced homages that don't work because the characters are not as dear to us. E.g. Spock and Kirk have hardly known each other and not been through all the events of TOS (Edith Keeler, Pon Farr etc.) that actually establishes their relationship.
-Characters have superhero-like abilities rather than being human. Emphasis being on the physical rather than societal/cultural improvement of humankind
Thank you for keeping the dream alive: the Star Trek dream!
To be fingered by the ferengi ..... a fate worse than death 😳
Super animation! It is amazing that one guy with a computer can make better special effects than Hollywood could when Star Trek first came out. Bravo!
During the battle, the captain and first officer of the Stargazer were killed and Jean-Luc Picard took command and became the acting C.O., but at that time, he only had the rank of lieutenant.
No. Captain Picard had been a Captain for a number of years up to this point. It was an incident prior to this that killed the C.O.
Cory Williams I thought he got the Command I Star Trek legacy story
@@jimkirk216 The Legacy incident that killed the Stargazer's original captain was years before the Battle of Maxia.
In fact, the Battle of Maxia was nine years before Picard took command of the Enterprise-D.
Cory Williams he had already been captain for 22 years of the stargazer before loosing it in the battle
yup, the stargazer was given to him after the captain & 2nd in command were killed. then he had it for a LONG time prior to the battle of Maxia....
The Stargazer, according to Trek hisyory, was build around 2276. Now, if it was commissioned & went active by 2290, it still would be over 35 years old. (The Ambassador class was already around while Picard was still in command of the Stargazer.) In a TNG episode, the Hathawatwas said to be 80 years old.....If the Ferengi ship was new tech, the Stargazer was already outdated, especially if she was caught with shields down.
I always thought "The Battle of Maxia" sounded like something related to feminine hygiene products.
I am impressed with your vfx skills, however.
@FLAME4564 Thanks. It was a Ferengi scout ship called "Seventy-Fifth Rule" according to the the TNG novel The Buried Age. That rule is: "Home is where the heart is, but the stars are made of latinum."
*"THE BATTE OF MAXIA"*
Awesome !! Packed a punch like a constitution class starship!!
military protocol, they would have destroyed the ship, no way would they leave it unattended, after an attack. we scuttle ships and aircraft are equipped with systems that fry the electronics.
Yeah, backstory in a novel explains that the systems to do that were offline. So Picard ordered the ship to be put on course to burn up in a gas giant's atmosphere, but it was retrieved by Bok before that happened.
Starfleet is not a military force as we know it. No reason to think that they would follow the same doctrines as a modern military esp if they were not currently at war.
***** Starfleet is not a modern military. It is a collection of scientists and explorers that can show their teeth when needed. They live (in this timeframe) in a world with little strife. A failed pirate attack would not necessarily trigger wartime security measures i.e. scuttling disabled starships.
starfleet may not be exclusively military, but they are the ones who fill those boots for the united federation during times of war or strife.
Maybe they're a bunch of libtards in the future?
By far one of the best, if not the best animations on star trek out on RUclips, fantastic, we all appreciate your fine work, thanks....
And please do more ;)
Adam
Okay. I'm new to this channel. Are these stories Canon; from books and movies? Or are you just making stuff up? Either way it's very well done and I enjoy watching.
You did this with your home computer? Much better than anything Paramount has come up with in the last five years. Thumbs up.
Did they have to fire 8
PHOTON TORPEDOES!!!!!!!!!!!!??
Yes
Picard obviously thought it was a good idea at the time
Nope that's why he only used 6 not 8
Hey - lots is good, but MORE is BETTER. ;-)
Excellent work gentlemen. I was under the impression that the Ferengi vessel was one of their Marauders. But, very, very impressive...
Never really understood the motive behind the Ferengi attack. Bok's later actions could perhaps be explained by his want of revenge for the death of his son, but why did his son attack the Stargazer in the first place? What rationale would make it something Ferengi would do? Fearing the Stargazer would seize some of the system's mineral wealth/interfere in their profits, perhaps (making the attack 'profitable' if it succeeded)?
The ferengi attacked as they felt the UFP were there to steal the mineral deposits, yes.
The Ferrengi operate on the principle that if you can steal it, profit from it. They probably wanted the Photon Torpedoes, or everything the could jack from the ship.
Or even the crew since it's legal to sell humanoids for their price in Gold-Pressed-Latinum.
From what I read, The Ferengi at this point believe the Federation is insane for having a moneyless economy.
That tiroedi rapid fire and phaser look so powerfull.
Great job
That ship cant hold 12 shuttles, max 2. Nice try
They were escape pods!
Ginger Boy-Watkins google star trek escape pods vs star trek shuttles
Ozolz Why not? There are four shuttlebays. One in the front, two port side saucer, one starboard side saucer
I wish there was a HD version of this!
There was an era in Starfleet's history where someone had bypassed the Starboard Aesthetic Interlock... good lord the Constellation and Oberth class ships were ugly.
I dunno, I think they had charm in the way a Firefly class has charm. ;-)
LOL. To each their own, I guess. I definitely think things went from ugly, to fugly, to less ugly, to pretty, to gorgeous.
It's closer to NCC-1701-A (My absolute favorite 1701) on the outside so its pleasing in that way but I somewhat dislike the interior it really doesn't work for me per se.
Disagreeing is entirely ok. =) Sure the nacelles and the pylons are different, but I was mostly commenting upon the general flavor. I still prefer the TOS version.
I didn't think the Obereth class was ugly, just silly (you can't get into that huge secondary hull).
The Constellation was just a kitbash originally intended only as a model for Picard's office. It really has a thrown together, kitbashed look rather than an elegant design.
@VideoSpaceFX I love how you matched the battle fatigue on the hull on the Stargazer with the one on the hull of the TV show model, nice touch!
what happened to the remains of the stargazer?
nevermind I just saw it
memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Battle_(episode)
The Federation picked it up and rebuilt it to be used again. Had to delete that, STO says that the Stargazer help prelude the Stargazer class and it's first name was the USS Stargazer-A
CoyoteMan Gaming that would mean that the first intrepid class starship was the USS intrepid-A
Alex zander Sorry I'm late but no, there is a USS Intrepid-A but the reason the Stargazer-A was build is because the original Stargazer was retired or decommissioned. So Starfleet built the Stargazer-A to be the prototype for the stargazer class
man i was reading the comments and the music started me thinking that i was watching star wars! great work on the muzak!!!!!
I agree, Star fleet is the combined tech and minds of over a hundred races... Any other race would love to get their hands on it, even if its old. In a TNG episode when the Romulan human dude defects to stop a war, Gordie talks about how the Romulans are able to control the power level of their weapons and etc... He says it in a way like no other race is able to do it. except starfleet and romulans
Wow! That was over quick!
I was about to complain that in the counterattack you didn't have the Stargazer fire torpedoes, and then suddenly PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW!!!
I adore these videos you do, so good. I really look forward to more 😁
really well made best fan made short i've seen from the trek universe keep them coming !!
One of the best 3D space model battles that I have seen in a long time.
never seen that classification of Ferengi ship before. It lacks the "croissant" design that we're all familiar with.
This was excellent! Of course there was an investigation and Picard was grilled hard by the prosecuting officer in charge, Phillipa. Picard was eventually exonorated and commended for his performance in handling a crisis.
Very well made!!!!!! Congratulations on a fantastic video!!
Thanks! Yes, I wouldn't even attempt modeling people realistically, I would rather use actors on green screen!
Picard simply says they drifted for weeks until they were picked up, so the details of that I added in as I saw fit.
Jack Crusher died a year before this battle on an away mission, hence the lack of any conversation about it between Beverly and Picard in "The Battle".
Thank you for bringing this to life for us all the view. I hope you do more.
The idea is past a certain speed, sensors incorrectly detect the target ship being in the wrong position, or detect there being more than one of it, meaning weapons are useless against that ship while it can still fire upon you, while effectively entirely safe from retaliation fire.
To be fair, the Warp Nacelle's are strung out on the outside of the ship like that because they have tendency to go BOOM. As for the bridge, since TNG I think all ships have had a Battle Bridge in the heart of the ship - the only remaining mistake is that the Captain doesn't fight the ship from the battle bridge.
Another excellent piece of work closing another TNG story!
I like the Zhao - Miranda mk2!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done in every way shape and form and in every detail executed as well a very great job indeed, And the Constellation class has always been one of my all time favorite starship designs as well as the Miranda class and various others like her as well!,👌.
I enjoyed this video. I like the integration of 1st season TNG music as the background.