Interesting review. I've had mine a few months now and I am still in love with the huge soundstage and amazing mids. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: I love the look of them.
Thanks! I appreciate you not having buyer bias and listening to some other opinion, not all people behave this way 😄 Soundstage is impressive indeed and you're right, it's certainly about the perspective when it comes to the looks. To me Saab cars are one of the most beautiful while many will consider them too quirky. Exactly the same case with this speaker I feel.
@@MAudiophile Very true. I'm not a car fan, but my dad had an old Saab and it was lovely and quirky and solid, inside and out. Industrial design that is functionally superior by not following the crowd is something magical.
@@elmowedgewood Thank you! It is one of the amplifier I have in mind for my lumina. I cross my finger It will be possible de get one at a discount price thank to its remplacement by the new Mk4.
I had Lumina 1 + Naim Atom + Eagle Cable High End speaker wires. Sound was amazing, just little bit soft for rock music. I changed wires to QED Reference and speakers became faster and no soft. After I changed to Lumina 2 because relocated to biggest room. In 34qm is sounding like floorstanding speakers. Now I’m calm and happy.
@@roybrolsbeak no. The speakers looks just small but they have wide scenes and bass is deep. Now I connected bi-wire cable and results being better than I expected.
Thank you for the review. I personally find them gorgeous to be honest. At the store, they sounded beautiful, though I did notice the lack of deep bass. Do you think an added sub would be worth it with these? Also, maybe a silly question, but I’m still new to music equipment: the speakers say recommended power is 30-130W at 4Ohms. Is this per speaker or for both speakers? In other words, do I need 2x130 or 2x65 amp? Tnx
I personally prefer 2.0 setups in contrary to the 2.1 but also I've never had subwoofer dedicated for music listening so maybe I am a bit biased here. Usually they give description of watts per channel - both in speakers (so for one speaker) and amps. You probably need to look up power at given impedance in the amplifier too. That's said, those are really only manufacturer recommendations. I was running them with my beloved NAD C320BEE and to me those 50 watts were quite adequate... but of course, higher end gear the better but I think 50 watts would be a minimum optimal power for those kinds of speakers (though according to some there are exceptions such as legendary NAD 3020 with only 25/30W).
@@MAudiophile thanks for the answer. I, too, have no experience with 2.1 for music, but I’ve read people recommending a sub. Btw, the seller where I’ve tested these recommended the Marantz pm6007 with them, which is 50W per channel at 8o, or 65W per channel od 4o.By your comment I guess that’s enough. Thanks again!
Your description is so nebulous that I can't discern what the actual issues are with this speaker: "some tracks sound weird", "they engage in some trickery". It would be nice to have a description that was more tangible and meaningful..
Generally I tend to make two kinds of tests on this channel: full reviews and brief "my opinion" ones. In first I usually present measurements and more extensive/objective (based on measurements) descriptions. Latter is more of a first impression video. Still valuable I think. In the end its not easy to describe the sound with words (I should add: especially with those Lumina 2s) and simple frequency response in listening room won't tell a whole story either.
You mentioned there are other speakers in this price range that are more open and natural sounding. What speakers would you suggest looking into rather than the Luminas?
i subbed because of your honesty. there are so many reviews that just want to earn money, its confusing for us (who worked hard to save up for these products) i have owned the focal 906 and my ears hurt quite a bit .. do you have any speakers that i should demo. speakers that amazed you in the 1000/1500 dollar range ? thanks in advance
Oh yeah, I have listened to those Focals so I understand where you coming from. I would advise listening to Quadral Platinum+ Two (currently my main speakers, great all-arounders), although I know its availability is poor nowadays. Sadly, at the moment I focus on more budget friendly speakers so cannot really recommend you many others. I still have a lot to listen in your range (1000-1500$) in the near future. That said, (from some cheaper ones if you will) maybe have a look at the Elac Uni-Fi Reference, Debut Reference and Polk R200.
@@MAudiophile thanks for your reply. Im now demoing triangle br03 and the heco aurora 300. I have auditioned numerous speakers in the 1000 to 2000 range last months and i just cannot justify spending that much more for such a minor step up. I thought the focals would blow me away but its not like that. The only speaker that really stood out was the evoke 20 but for now i will enjoy some cheaper speaker since i came to the conclusion there are more important things in life than owning the best speaker.
You are decidedly luke warm about these speakers, an interesting contrast compared to the many gushing reviews all over RUclips. It made me suspicious about those other reviews and my suspicions proved correct. These are pretty average imho and in no way match the praise that others are heaping upon them. They might get better, I'm about 6 hours in, but they're not going to get that much better...
Thanks for nice words! This is the philosophy I adopted from the begining (for both of my channels) - to provide with the most trustworthy and honest reviews, as much as I am able to. I feel there is especially need for that in regards to the Hi-Fi tests. There is just too much hype about some products and some channels that rate pretty much every speaker as Tier A. Add to that the whole audio voodoo (cables, power filters) and in the result you get field that really needs a lot more critical thinking and objectivity (in its subjectivity 😉).
I have tried Sonus Faber Lumina II Amator, Sonetto II, Dali Opticon 1 Mk2, Opticon 2 Mk2, Rubicon 2, new Rubikore 2, B&W 607 S3 and 707 S3 paired with bluesound Powernode and NAD M10 V2. The best compromise for my little room is NAD M10 V2 with the B&W 707 S3 and 2 B&W ASW610 subwoofers. For Dolby Digital and stereo surround duties system is helped with 2 bluesound Pulse M wireless speakers. Sometimes I use Pulse M in other rooms. This combination is much better than traditional AV systems for music listening and smaller and wireless components are less dominant in the quirky, compact rooms. For movies are good too and it is quite difficult to implement Dolby Atmos in smaller places anyway. B&W and NAD Master 10 give to system high fidelity sound and a very good 3D listening experience in the smaller rooms. Sonus Faber and Dalis are more musical speakers, especially for classical and MTV Unplugged types of music.
Mostly I post reviews when I indeed give a score to the speaker but this one though was only an impression video (like the title says - "my opinion") so no rating in this case. That's said, at the end I shared my conclusions and actually one person in the comment really accurately summarize my whole attitude towards those speakers as being "luke warm".
It’s a very bright speaker. You can see the guys at Alpha Audio in the video jumping when the music hit the cymbals (interestingly, none of the other ones in the group test did anything similar). Klippel measurements also confirm that excessive brightness, which might be what some people want, but it’s way far from neutrality. Sonus Faber usually has great finishes in all their loudspeakers, and in a sense, this one is a part of it (even if it isn’t my cup of tea, with too much going on in the front). But sound quality is often hit or miss.
I agree that they don't look that great -- to much bling, too much all over the place. Wood, gold, silver, leather -- give me a break. The ones in pure black look OK though.
They're Italian speakers. Did you think they would adopt scandanavian minimalist aesthetic? Just say you're not a fan of some Italian design language, this being one of them.
Interesting review. I've had mine a few months now and I am still in love with the huge soundstage and amazing mids. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: I love the look of them.
Thanks! I appreciate you not having buyer bias and listening to some other opinion, not all people behave this way 😄 Soundstage is impressive indeed and you're right, it's certainly about the perspective when it comes to the looks. To me Saab cars are one of the most beautiful while many will consider them too quirky. Exactly the same case with this speaker I feel.
@@MAudiophile Very true. I'm not a car fan, but my dad had an old Saab and it was lovely and quirky and solid, inside and out. Industrial design that is functionally superior by not following the crowd is something magical.
What amp are you using in association with your Lumina 1?
@@acarrado I have a Rega Elex-r. Great match with the Lumina 2s. Would also work with the 1s.
@@elmowedgewood Thank you! It is one of the amplifier I have in mind for my lumina. I cross my finger It will be possible de get one at a discount price thank to its remplacement by the new Mk4.
I had Lumina 1 + Naim Atom + Eagle Cable High End speaker wires. Sound was amazing, just little bit soft for rock music. I changed wires to QED Reference and speakers became faster and no soft. After I changed to Lumina 2 because relocated to biggest room. In 34qm is sounding like floorstanding speakers. Now I’m calm and happy.
Lumina 2 not too small speakers?
@@roybrolsbeak no. The speakers looks just small but they have wide scenes and bass is deep. Now I connected bi-wire cable and results being better than I expected.
thank you !@@vidaswidas
Thank you for the review. I personally find them gorgeous to be honest. At the store, they sounded beautiful, though I did notice the lack of deep bass. Do you think an added sub would be worth it with these?
Also, maybe a silly question, but I’m still new to music equipment: the speakers say recommended power is 30-130W at 4Ohms. Is this per speaker or for both speakers? In other words, do I need 2x130 or 2x65 amp?
Tnx
I personally prefer 2.0 setups in contrary to the 2.1 but also I've never had subwoofer dedicated for music listening so maybe I am a bit biased here.
Usually they give description of watts per channel - both in speakers (so for one speaker) and amps. You probably need to look up power at given impedance in the amplifier too. That's said, those are really only manufacturer recommendations. I was running them with my beloved NAD C320BEE and to me those 50 watts were quite adequate... but of course, higher end gear the better but I think 50 watts would be a minimum optimal power for those kinds of speakers (though according to some there are exceptions such as legendary NAD 3020 with only 25/30W).
@@MAudiophile thanks for the answer. I, too, have no experience with 2.1 for music, but I’ve read people recommending a sub. Btw, the seller where I’ve tested these recommended the Marantz pm6007 with them, which is 50W per channel at 8o, or 65W per channel od 4o.By your comment I guess that’s enough. Thanks again!
@@alex.j87 you definitely need a subs to reach those low notes we are missing on any bookshelf speaker
It’s impossible to get deep bass with a cabinet this small. You would need a sub.
Pod jaki wzmacniacz zintegrowany to podłączyć żeby grały ciepło? Będę wdzięczny za odpowiedź . Jestem dopiero na początku przygody ze sprzętem.
They look gorgeous ❤
Your description is so nebulous that I can't discern what the actual issues are with this speaker: "some tracks sound weird", "they engage in some trickery". It would be nice to have a description that was more tangible and meaningful..
Generally I tend to make two kinds of tests on this channel: full reviews and brief "my opinion" ones. In first I usually present measurements and more extensive/objective (based on measurements) descriptions. Latter is more of a first impression video. Still valuable I think. In the end its not easy to describe the sound with words (I should add: especially with those Lumina 2s) and simple frequency response in listening room won't tell a whole story either.
Do they better then evo 4.1 ? thanks
You mentioned there are other speakers in this price range that are more open and natural sounding. What speakers would you suggest looking into rather than the Luminas?
The ones he's paid by ?
i subbed because of your honesty. there are so many reviews that just want to earn money, its confusing for us (who worked hard to save up for these products) i have owned the focal 906 and my ears hurt quite a bit .. do you have any speakers that i should demo. speakers that amazed you in the 1000/1500 dollar range ? thanks in advance
Oh yeah, I have listened to those Focals so I understand where you coming from. I would advise listening to Quadral Platinum+ Two (currently my main speakers, great all-arounders), although I know its availability is poor nowadays. Sadly, at the moment I focus on more budget friendly speakers so cannot really recommend you many others. I still have a lot to listen in your range (1000-1500$) in the near future. That said, (from some cheaper ones if you will) maybe have a look at the Elac Uni-Fi Reference, Debut Reference and Polk R200.
@@MAudiophile thanks for your reply. Im now demoing triangle br03 and the heco aurora 300. I have auditioned numerous speakers in the 1000 to 2000 range last months and i just cannot justify spending that much more for such a minor step up. I thought the focals would blow me away but its not like that. The only speaker that really stood out was the evoke 20 but for now i will enjoy some cheaper speaker since i came to the conclusion there are more important things in life than owning the best speaker.
You are decidedly luke warm about these speakers, an interesting contrast compared to the many gushing reviews all over RUclips. It made me suspicious about those other reviews and my suspicions proved correct. These are pretty average imho and in no way match the praise that others are heaping upon them. They might get better, I'm about 6 hours in, but they're not going to get that much better...
Thanks for nice words! This is the philosophy I adopted from the begining (for both of my channels) - to provide with the most trustworthy and honest reviews, as much as I am able to. I feel there is especially need for that in regards to the Hi-Fi tests. There is just too much hype about some products and some channels that rate pretty much every speaker as Tier A. Add to that the whole audio voodoo (cables, power filters) and in the result you get field that really needs a lot more critical thinking and objectivity (in its subjectivity 😉).
I have tried Sonus Faber Lumina II Amator, Sonetto II, Dali Opticon 1 Mk2, Opticon 2 Mk2, Rubicon 2, new Rubikore 2, B&W 607 S3 and 707 S3 paired with bluesound Powernode and NAD M10 V2. The best compromise for my little room is NAD M10 V2 with the B&W 707 S3 and 2 B&W ASW610 subwoofers. For Dolby Digital and stereo surround duties system is helped with 2 bluesound Pulse M wireless speakers. Sometimes I use Pulse M in other rooms. This combination is much better than traditional AV systems for music listening and smaller and wireless components are less dominant in the quirky, compact rooms. For movies are good too and it is quite difficult to implement Dolby Atmos in smaller places anyway. B&W and NAD Master 10 give to system high fidelity sound and a very good 3D listening experience in the smaller rooms. Sonus Faber and Dalis are more musical speakers, especially for classical and MTV Unplugged types of music.
What score did you give them?
Mostly I post reviews when I indeed give a score to the speaker but this one though was only an impression video (like the title says - "my opinion") so no rating in this case. That's said, at the end I shared my conclusions and actually one person in the comment really accurately summarize my whole attitude towards those speakers as being "luke warm".
It’s a very bright speaker. You can see the guys at Alpha Audio in the video jumping when the music hit the cymbals (interestingly, none of the other ones in the group test did anything similar).
Klippel measurements also confirm that excessive brightness, which might be what some people want, but it’s way far from neutrality.
Sonus Faber usually has great finishes in all their loudspeakers, and in a sense, this one is a part of it (even if it isn’t my cup of tea, with too much going on in the front).
But sound quality is often hit or miss.
Trebles are great with Lumina !
The true cymbal sound 🎉
You definitely talked me out of purchasing these..
Good video . To me they sound a little to bright
Mutton dressed as lamb.
I agree that they don't look that great -- to much bling, too much all over the place. Wood, gold, silver, leather -- give me a break. The ones in pure black look OK though.
They're Italian speakers. Did you think they would adopt scandanavian minimalist aesthetic?
Just say you're not a fan of some Italian design language, this being one of them.
@@erics.4113 OK - definitely not a fan.
Not my favorite looking speaker (use of materials)
I dont like the look also.