I bought the 2500t while traveling in FL and my in-laws house needed some work done. Rich area and a modest house, the got a 7k bid for an afternoon job. I bought this saw a hand saw and a hank of rope, tied my own saddle and got it done in 6 hours, spread over 3 days( I only bought one battery). I think you nailed, as I would expect, the review as stock. The stock chain was grabby and its 3/8-.050 LP. I’ve tried a 3/8 .043 and it’s better, but a 14” bar was pushing things. I think a 12” bar and .043 chain will be the sweet spot. I’ll be hitting you up for a custom saddle in the next couple years, I’ve got an idea I’m not going to share right now, but I’m nearing the end of a career as a Fire Captain and I want it to be a tribute to where I came from and what I am to the core. Tree work is my retirement plan. Tree work isn’t “easier” on the body and mind, but you have a lot more control of your pace and that will make a huge difference for me. Also looking forward to sleeping at night……. Keep up the great work August, one of these days I want to shake your hand.
Careful with the brake, the plastic paddle broke pretty quickly. The crooked mounting hook is genius, but it broke pretty quickly as well from just normal climbing days.
I've been running this saw for over a year with a 1/4 pitch drive sprocket from you guys. It's been a great and is my go to for small removals and trimming.
Pretty sure the makers of that saw were not thinking of using it the way you just did 😂 But good for you to have the patients to continue without asking for another saw.
I have that saw and use it almost every day for pruning and small removals. Way better once you get the 1/4 pitch bar cause then is less resistance on the chain. The most appealing aspect is how light it is and the price. The weird whistling sound is a bit annoying but you get use to. Was looking forward to a August review
Lol, that's a big cut for the little echo. I love mine, I only ever use my top handle for limbing and topping. It's my main saw. If I need a bigger saw, I have my ported 2511 because I never carry more than I need.
Nice work seeing what it is capable of, very helpful finding the limits of a tool. The torque or load sensing feature that shuts it down doesn't seem to be confined to just chainsaws, my latest Makita battery drill does the same thing just when I think I'm about to punch through it just stops!😡 My old one didn't do that. Personally I have sense enough to let go of the trigger if there's a problem. I suspect engineering parameters are heavily influenced by lawyers and insurers....ok, rant over. I tether my 2511t by the side handle too, afraid that skinny wire loop could drop my saw. Thanks for posting, as always great camera angles. Blessings Sir! BTW that Texas saddle is awesome!
Everytime you test an Electric Saw . I see just how good of a job they did with the Husqvarna. The Husky is the 200T of the Electric Saws. Would like to see the Echo with the Panther 14 inch 1/4 Pitch. It looked real fast on Limbs,but had more than it could handle with the Face Cut,and Back Cut.
Yeah! Thermal protection.. I understand the reasoning for it. Since the saw is tethered, why not take advantage of it and design a powered cord tether with remote battery pack. Climbing harnesses could be designed to be well balanced power delivery systems that could accommodate a wide range of battery designs. Just food for thought. 👍
I like the idea of a battery pack remote from a saw but if the battery does go, and they do pop I want it far away from me as a few days ago my Hikoki Top handle saw started smoking from the motor. Battery out straight away and left the saw to cool off, I would not want a battery going crazy on my harness. I also have a Makita 36v twin battery top handle saw with the same snagging issue under load.
That was definitely too much for the little Echo. Remember, the Husqvarna and Milwaukee are supposed to be a 40cc equivalent, but the Echo is a 25cc equivalent. It's great for a little trim saw with nearly half the weight. Don't expect it to have the same power, though. A 12" narrow kerf setup is pretty ideal for cuts up to 8".
Nice saw. Bought mine when they first came out. Got caught in a rain shower the 3rd time out. Came out of the tree quickly but the rain shorted something out. Now I have to pop battery in and out to reset if it times out between cuts. DO NOT LET this saw get WET! Other than that a great saw. I did see an Electric truck that burnt up when it tried to cross 12” of water on a flooded street. You do nice work Sam. 😗
@@roryhennessey1983 I use it in city work on emergency situations during quiet hours. Actually a great lightweight saw. Wouldn’t use it daily. (3) cs2511t ‘s have spoiled me for the past 6 years
The big advantage of thes small battery saws is, that you don't have to pull a string every time you start to cut .. Just pressing a button makes it a lot easier when you're sitting high up in the treetops These small battery saws are mostly intended/best for cutting branches..not the trunk itself
Hi August, May be you can try this dcs 2500 with a 3/8 .043 chain and bar with square chain like stihl 3699 chaine 61ps3 and say us what you think. Thanks for your video
I've had mine for a bit over a year... Got a 1/4 pitch chain from you shortly after expo last year and it helps a ton... BUT still not terribly impressed. Missed opportunity by echo to design that saw to hold the bigger battery. Told them as such last year and they said it's not even remotely in the plan to do make one
i have a suggestion though nobody gonna see this you should try the ryobi 40v top handle batteries are cheap and for me i haven't had any issues with you needing to spin it up first
I bought the Ryobi 40v top handle to try as the price point was intriguing. But on first use it had zero trigger response and took awhile to get up to speed. You can’t feather the trigger in cuts at all so I returned it. I like Ryobi and it had good power but that saw was a no go for me for reasons above. That said, would be fun to see August try it and give his report.
Great job August as always also Damien great job question for you August I have the monkey Beaver 2.0 for a while now I just put the adjustable Bridge like yours on my 2.0 question I have is I put the pretzel o-ring directly on the rigging plate that's okay alright your opinion thank you
I had the chance to use that echo on an ash trim. I wasn't impressed. 2 things to consider, I'm a big Echo fan, and that was the first time I'd ever used a battery saw
Using California approved saws. Good thing calfire can still use gas. Park fire down here in northern ca is getting close to my work. Heard you guys have it bad up there too.
My newest favorite comment to make especially on the dirt digger channels when they begin messing with trees is "What would August do?" Looks like the Echo is a homeowner saw too like the DeWalt. If my gas Husky ever takes a dive I'll replace it with the Husky battery saw.
Too bad Echo chose the over-active startup protection like Makita. I've been tempted to buy the Husqvarna when on sale but when they get you for the saw, the battery AND even the charger...the cost gets out of control.
That saw really needs 1/4 pitch on the stock stuff is dog poop... and it really isn't designed for doing huge cuts, but It would do better with the 1/4.... also, you are comparing to saws that are twice the weight. I run a 12in 1/4 and would say that size is about its max..... it's a joy to use for pruning and smallish tops, though
Definitely not impressed with the performance of the saw. Maybe a better bar a chain will help. They need to do something about the power problem on start up. Could you touch on what makes you decide whether to make a face cut angled up or down and also how to have a tree fall close to the stump or have kick out and fall farther out from the stump. Amateur climber / ground guy. Been doin tree work for about 44 years now off and on. Mostly for myself but sometimes paid. 67 years old. Love your videos
This isn't directly related to this video, but it is to tree work involving a crane. This morning (7/29/24), a tree service company doing a removal job using a crane in Wynantskill, NY had the crane tip over with a worker suspended from the crane, due to one of the outriggers being placed over a septic tank, which collapsed. Fortunately, the worker apparently wasn't seriously injured, but I wanted to post this here for awareness in the arborist community as it is a hidden danger that is quite literally overlooked: ruclips.net/video/_bwIvIQxKxc/видео.htmlsi=n6JMsTbD6VA7QMWn
Ya that is dumb. That tree should have been taken down. And the Milwaukee top handle is way better than that Echo. That thing sounds super cheap. Sorry for being a negative comment.
@AugustHunicke yes I watched the birch removal. The saw was much better suited for that job. I've been holding out on electric saws but know one is in my future. I enjoy your videos and appreciated you sharing the story of why you do videos.
Battery saws suck , And you just showed the world of ARB why ..... no power no cutting speed . Not reliable ! and i'm going to trust my life to a battery ? NO CHANCE
@@AugustHunicke No not all the same but all have one thing in commen ! They are battery powerd . How as a small business owner do i charge these ? Why should i pay twice as much for them over a gas powerd saw ? Some of the batteries cost as much as the saw some times more ! I suspect you are being a payed sponsore of these saws to promote them . Battery is not the future .......
@@arborist554 you have preconceived notions and over generalizations. I’m paid by no one to use any tool. I call it like I see it. Whether a battery saw is “the future” or not is irrelevant if it’s useful now. Buy them, don’t buy them, whatever floats your boat. America. I assume you won’t use any evil cordless drills either 😆
Well, I have to say I did not enjoy this video. The evaluation of this Echo DCS2500T was totally bias and the application unfair. This saw was made for limbing and cuts within the 12" bar length. I have limbed many trees and have topped them when diameter was within 10" or so. No problem. It is a saw you do not push....let it do the work within it's designed parameters. I understand, August, your need for power and cutting this top at the 16" diameter level. You should have been using the Husky or Milwaukee. The ideal work for this 2500T was limbing that tree up to top. It's a lightweight, well balanced tool...not meant for topping or chunking big diameter spars. Why not use it for what it is was designed for. JMHO
Although I'm not a climber those custom saddles are awesome works of art. A big shout out to the person or persons responsible.
Finally someone actually did a real world test of the echo. Thanks
I bought the 2500t while traveling in FL and my in-laws house needed some work done. Rich area and a modest house, the got a 7k bid for an afternoon job. I bought this saw a hand saw and a hank of rope, tied my own saddle and got it done in 6 hours, spread over 3 days( I only bought one battery). I think you nailed, as I would expect, the review as stock. The stock chain was grabby and its 3/8-.050 LP. I’ve tried a 3/8 .043 and it’s better, but a 14” bar was pushing things. I think a 12” bar and .043 chain will be the sweet spot.
I’ll be hitting you up for a custom saddle in the next couple years, I’ve got an idea I’m not going to share right now, but I’m nearing the end of a career as a Fire Captain and I want it to be a tribute to where I came from and what I am to the core.
Tree work is my retirement plan.
Tree work isn’t “easier” on the body and mind, but you have a lot more control of your pace and that will make a huge difference for me.
Also looking forward to sleeping at night…….
Keep up the great work August, one of these days I want to shake your hand.
Careful with the brake, the plastic paddle broke pretty quickly. The crooked mounting hook is genius, but it broke pretty quickly as well from just normal climbing days.
I've been running this saw for over a year with a 1/4 pitch drive sprocket from you guys. It's been a great and is my go to for small removals and trimming.
It’s super nice of Damian to help out a young contract climber with a little side work.
Hey August , I moved to Texas.. looking forward to seeing that beautiful harness in action!
Howdy 🤠
Pretty sure the makers of that saw were not thinking of using it the way you just did 😂 But good for you to have the patients to continue without asking for another saw.
Have had no issues with the echo 2500tn great battery saw, good amount of power and torque!
Thanks for taking us along and the saw comments.
One of the cooler sounding tops I’ve heard!!
I have that saw and use it almost every day for pruning and small removals. Way better once you get the 1/4 pitch bar cause then is less resistance on the chain. The most appealing aspect is how light it is and the price. The weird whistling sound is a bit annoying but you get use to. Was looking forward to a August review
Are they cheaper than the DeWalt?
Wait, yours has that whistle too? That just doesn't seem right... Sounds like something ain't running right
@@elizaehrlich i think the sound is coming from the clutch. Seems like all the saws of this mode have the sound.
@@gs1100ed no idea got it in Europe we don’t have dewalt chainsaw yet I think
I thought maybe the whistle was air cooling the battery 🤷🏼♂️
Lol, that's a big cut for the little echo. I love mine, I only ever use my top handle for limbing and topping. It's my main saw. If I need a bigger saw, I have my ported 2511 because I never carry more than I need.
Battery saws are evolving, good to see what out there without having to fork out for one to see if I like it or not.
Nice work seeing what it is capable of, very helpful finding the limits of a tool. The torque or load sensing feature that shuts it down doesn't seem to be confined to just chainsaws, my latest Makita battery drill does the same thing just when I think I'm about to punch through it just stops!😡 My old one didn't do that. Personally I have sense enough to let go of the trigger if there's a problem. I suspect engineering parameters are heavily influenced by lawyers and insurers....ok, rant over. I tether my 2511t by the side handle too, afraid that skinny wire loop could drop my saw. Thanks for posting, as always great camera angles. Blessings Sir! BTW that Texas saddle is awesome!
Pretty cool how you popped that top, I enjoy watching your videos august
Climb high, cut safe
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Everytime you test an Electric Saw . I see just how good of a job they did with the Husqvarna. The Husky is the 200T of the Electric Saws. Would like to see the Echo with the Panther 14 inch 1/4 Pitch. It looked real fast on Limbs,but had more than it could handle with the Face Cut,and Back Cut.
The Texas saddle is awesome
Like the 2500. Have a 150t has lasted really well but be nice have a quiet saw for nippin stuff up, an the 150 will live longer. Great vids fullas'
Yeah! Thermal protection.. I understand the reasoning for it.
Since the saw is tethered, why not take advantage of it and design a powered cord tether with remote battery pack.
Climbing harnesses could be designed to be well balanced power delivery systems that could accommodate a wide range of battery designs.
Just food for thought. 👍
The RUclips world is ripe with a huge number of engineering enthusiasts and technologists.
You know he already has done that with another saw.
@@brettblack7049 must have missed it.
I like the idea of a battery pack remote from a saw but if the battery does go, and they do pop I want it far away from me as a few days ago my Hikoki Top handle saw started smoking from the motor. Battery out straight away and left the saw to cool off, I would not want a battery going crazy on my harness.
I also have a Makita 36v twin battery top handle saw with the same snagging issue under load.
It may have been like 3 yrs ago.@@opendstudio7141
That was definitely too much for the little Echo. Remember, the Husqvarna and Milwaukee are supposed to be a 40cc equivalent, but the Echo is a 25cc equivalent. It's great for a little trim saw with nearly half the weight. Don't expect it to have the same power, though.
A 12" narrow kerf setup is pretty ideal for cuts up to 8".
Awesome review I see that saw at my local store every time I go in
Hi August and everyone nice cut God Bless ( Ty Ron
Nice saw. Bought mine when they first came out. Got caught in a rain shower the 3rd time out. Came out of the tree quickly but the rain shorted something out. Now I have to pop battery in and out to reset if it times out between cuts. DO NOT LET this saw get WET! Other than that a great saw. I did see an Electric truck that burnt up when it tried to cross 12” of water on a flooded street. You do nice work Sam. 😗
That saw doesn't seem nice at all
@@roryhennessey1983 I use it in city work on emergency situations during quiet hours. Actually a great lightweight saw. Wouldn’t use it daily. (3) cs2511t ‘s have spoiled me for the past 6 years
Interesting 🙂 Thank you August !!!
The big advantage of thes small battery saws is, that you don't have to pull a string every time you start to cut .. Just pressing a button makes it a lot easier when you're sitting high up in the treetops
These small battery saws are mostly intended/best for cutting branches..not the trunk itself
Hi August, May be you can try this dcs 2500 with a 3/8 .043 chain and bar with square chain like stihl 3699 chaine 61ps3 and say us what you think.
Thanks for your video
I've had mine for a bit over a year... Got a 1/4 pitch chain from you shortly after expo last year and it helps a ton... BUT still not terribly impressed. Missed opportunity by echo to design that saw to hold the bigger battery. Told them as such last year and they said it's not even remotely in the plan to do make one
Heck yeah! Early to this one again!
Saw looks like it’s good! I’ll get one.
Don't you get a little sad when it doesn't go RENG RENG!!? I know that's part of the fun for me.
Havent seen that one actually. Very cool to se
i have a suggestion though nobody gonna see this you should try the ryobi 40v top handle batteries are cheap and for me i haven't had any issues with you needing to spin it up first
I bought the Ryobi 40v top handle to try as the price point was intriguing. But on first use it had zero trigger response and took awhile to get up to speed. You can’t feather the trigger in cuts at all so I returned it. I like Ryobi and it had good power but that saw was a no go for me for reasons above. That said, would be fun to see August try it and give his report.
Nice that the tree was an AUTO BUCKER!👍🏼👍🏼
Great job August as always also Damien great job question for you August I have the monkey Beaver 2.0 for a while now I just put the adjustable Bridge like yours on my 2.0 question I have is I put the pretzel o-ring directly on the rigging plate that's okay alright your opinion thank you
No. You use the ring in place of the rigging plate and you put the rope adjuster on the ring.
@@AugustHunicke okay that's what I'll do so the way that I have it now the ring through the rigging plate that is not good correct
I had the chance to use that echo on an ash trim. I wasn't impressed. 2 things to consider, I'm a big Echo fan, and that was the first time I'd ever used a battery saw
I'm really happy with the milwaukee
Using California approved saws. Good thing calfire can still use gas. Park fire down here in northern ca is getting close to my work. Heard you guys have it bad up there too.
Careful man, it might come back as a 5 headed monster!! 😂
That saw was on the struggle bus for sure on that top cut.
Would be interesting to see you use a 2 in 1 to get past the limbs. Did you have a second tie in point after 8:21?
Everything I did is on film there.
My newest favorite comment to make especially on the dirt digger channels when they begin messing with trees is "What would August do?" Looks like the Echo is a homeowner saw too like the DeWalt. If my gas Husky ever takes a dive I'll replace it with the Husky battery saw.
The Milwaukee saws are pretty tough
Its for limbin only very light. But yer each own on that cheers
Too bad Echo chose the over-active startup protection like Makita. I've been tempted to buy the Husqvarna when on sale but when they get you for the saw, the battery AND even the charger...the cost gets out of control.
That saw really needs 1/4 pitch on the stock stuff is dog poop... and it really isn't designed for doing huge cuts, but It would do better with the 1/4.... also, you are comparing to saws that are twice the weight. I run a 12in 1/4 and would say that size is about its max..... it's a joy to use for pruning and smallish tops, though
Exactly
Yeah, I bought one, it barely lasted 6 months, think it needs a new PC board. Runs squeaky.
What a crash that top made!! I think I'd stick to the husky!!! 💪
Would you rather have a Stihl electric saw at dealer cost or just buy the husky at full price
Husky
Horses for courses, don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
I really had high hopes for echo! Lol, oh well 😢
Definitely not impressed with the performance of the saw. Maybe a better bar a chain will help. They need to do something about the power problem on start up. Could you touch on what makes you decide whether to make a face cut angled up or down and also how to have a tree fall close to the stump or have kick out and fall farther out from the stump. Amateur climber / ground guy. Been doin tree work for about 44 years now off and on. Mostly for myself but sometimes paid. 67 years old. Love your videos
This isn't directly related to this video, but it is to tree work involving a crane. This morning (7/29/24), a tree service company doing a removal job using a crane in Wynantskill, NY had the crane tip over with a worker suspended from the crane, due to one of the outriggers being placed over a septic tank, which collapsed. Fortunately, the worker apparently wasn't seriously injured, but I wanted to post this here for awareness in the arborist community as it is a hidden danger that is quite literally overlooked: ruclips.net/video/_bwIvIQxKxc/видео.htmlsi=n6JMsTbD6VA7QMWn
Finally
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w00t!
Doesn't cut the mustard!
It definitely does. There is no one saw that does everything
@@Johnnyreengo meaning the saw!
Nice 😊 🤠🤙🤙🤙💯💯💯💪💪💪zwhats up August!!!!🥳🙏🏼🪓🪵🤙🤙💯💯💯
Yer to much tree for the little fulla. Def no millwalkee.
Too much for that saw I’m afraid.
Not the chain saw for me. Trim only type...
I guess the customer didn't know you are a Monkey Beaver
yep i would not be purchasing that saw lol
Ya that is dumb. That tree should have been taken down. And the Milwaukee top handle is way better than that Echo. That thing sounds super cheap. Sorry for being a negative comment.
Had high hopes for this saw ,hard pass after watching this video.
Watch my next video
@AugustHunicke yes I watched the birch removal. The saw was much better suited for that job. I've been holding out on electric saws but know one is in my future. I enjoy your videos and appreciated you sharing the story of why you do videos.
Battery saws suck , And you just showed the world of ARB why ..... no power no cutting speed . Not reliable ! and i'm going to trust my life to a battery ? NO CHANCE
They’re not all the same
@@AugustHunicke No not all the same but all have one thing in commen ! They are battery powerd .
How as a small business owner do i charge these ? Why should i pay twice as much for them over a gas powerd saw ? Some of the batteries cost as much as the saw some times more !
I suspect you are being a payed sponsore of these saws to promote them .
Battery is not the future .......
@@arborist554 you have preconceived notions and over generalizations. I’m paid by no one to use any tool. I call it like I see it. Whether a battery saw is “the future” or not is irrelevant if it’s useful now.
Buy them, don’t buy them, whatever floats your boat. America. I assume you won’t use any evil cordless drills either 😆
That saw stinks!
Well, I have to say I did not enjoy this video. The evaluation of this Echo DCS2500T was totally bias and the application unfair. This saw was made for limbing and cuts within the 12" bar length. I have limbed many trees and have topped them when diameter was within 10" or so. No problem. It is a saw you do not push....let it do the work within it's designed parameters. I understand, August, your need for power and cutting this top at the 16" diameter level. You should have been using the Husky or Milwaukee. The ideal work for this 2500T was limbing that tree up to top. It's a lightweight, well balanced tool...not meant for topping or chunking big diameter spars. Why not use it for what it is was designed for. JMHO
Tree guys always look up lol!!!
I’ll stick with my gas-powered Stihls.