Penal code section 837. We make a citizen arrest. As you can see in the video it is a danger for them to be inside for their safety and ours we put them into our patrol car. Thank you for the question and look forward to answering more
LEO uniforms vary from city to city. Los Angeles police wear a distinct midnight navy class B uniform. We wear French blue with a gold stripe down the leg. We also wear external body armor which separates us from local police To the local person we are indeed distinctly different than the local police.
Citizens arrest.. the same thing that you or any other citizen could do. I think it would be funny if they were trying to make a citizen's arrest against a person, but that citizen perceived themselves to be in an attempted kidnapping situation and then the other guy decides to place them under citizens arrest for kidnapping. How would that work?
I'm tempted to move to LA just to work there. I used to work for a similar company called Paladin in Sacramento but they got sold out. I miss those days. Good work guys! Stay Safe!
Security guards generate so much unnecessary work for real police. The real cops don't care about a 602. They would just tell those bums to get lost because they have real crime to deal with
That’s part of the problem. the property owner does care someone is creating a disturbance or making a mess on their property and refusing to leave. Typically when we pull up, the negative elements remove them self Sometimes folks refuse to leave , hide or flat out say no I’m not going to leave. So in the rare situations when we do make an arrest It would be much more cost efficient for the city to train us / certify us how to do it and transport them to jail It should be noted this would only negatively impact the bottom line however we believe this is the right thing to do.
I cannot speak to the specific laws of California, but this does seem like a very good idea and a good Department. I am a professional law-enforcement officer of almost 20 years service. The only thing you have to watch is going beyond the limits of your jurisdiction and authority. Never transported subject, and never put them into your vehicle. You have no need to do that. Leave the subject where you detain them. If a detention is necessary.
Thanks mike, your absolutely right. Sometimes we have to put in our patrol which is just out front. We can’t transport and that’s the point of the video. Here in California we can’t detain anybody, we make an arrest under penal code 837 Under that code the local police department is required to transport our prisoner. So why not train us to transport and process so the city of LA doesn’t have to pay for it? Keep in mind private ambulance use lights and sirens to clear traffic, if we have a call about a guy with a knife why can’t we? Keep in mind frequently local police do not show up
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity Keep in mind that private ambulances deal with emergent, life threatening situations and therefore require lights and sirens. There's nothing emergent about your trespasses and you have no authority to respond to a person with a knife call, especially not code-3. If there is a person with a knife, call 911. Do your job and observe and report. Nothing else.
Can a private citizen make an arrest in the State of California? California Penal Code section 837 allows a private person to make a citizen’s arrest of a private person who commits a misdemeanor in a citizen’s presence, or commits a felony and a citizen has reasonable cause to believe the perpetrator committed it. If the accused is found not guilty or charges are dismissed the private person whom made the arrest can be liable in a civil action for faults arrest.
I’m a retired LASD Deputy Sheriff. I could not arrest an individual for trespassing unless they were first issued a notice of trespass and not to return. You’re definitely out there playing Super-cop…
Which gang are you affiliated with? It’s too bad your hands were tied and you were too impotent to be able to make an arrest for simple trespassing . We do it every day .
If anybody came at me dressed like a cop but not a cop and couldn't identify themself as a government employee, like you are coming at people, i would not hesitate to put their life below my freedom. And you would be liable for the result. 8:40 oh, so if they struggle and get hurt you are on the hook for any medical bills or otherwise they may incur. So the entire business is one lawsuit away from liquidation. Lmao. An absolute nutter on a power trip, no doubt
@@vids595 these guys look like proud boy wannabes. Some nut in cheap tactical gear comes at me and I will drop him. I don't care what nonsense they are shouting about citizen arrest ( also, some quick googling says you are wrong). I would have valid grounds to fear for my life.
As a private security officer myself I would be careful when making a citizens arrest. The person could sue you for false imprisonment or illegal detainment, so just be careful and watch what you do.
Your right, that’s why we all wear body cameras and document what’s going on to the cctv and typically we have an officer recoding from a drone as well
LAPD asking if it's your protocol to go inside the building...... What they mean is stop going in there cause they don't want to do paperwork and you are making paperwork for them
Ya..... Give the subject a weapon to break into the structure or possibly attack one of their guards. Whoever came up with that idea should quit thinking as they aren't good at it.
Remember the kids that signed up for safety patrol in grade school? Or the kids that reminded the teachers they forgot to give homework? Found out where they ended up!
@@101Navyseals absolutely. Majority of security guards Did not do well in school and that often is contributed to drug use. Which is a contributing factor to their lack of skills.
As a security guard it helps if you have PC 832 powers to arrest AND.. a clear understanding of what the criteria is that must be met to affect a citizens arrest. Speak to a lawyer, try to find an agency that maybe has knowledge of a course put on by an LE agency or a POST certified course to help citizens understand what criterium must be met to legally affect a citizens arrest
You’re right Pc 832 is a great asset we encourage and pay for all of our officers to go through West Los Angeles college PC 832 Capt. Rivers is a great guy !!!
I fully support this type of proactive security, especially because I believe in the free market and lean towards libertarian ideals. However, they should be careful not to overstep and engage in law enforcement activities such as clearing buildings and arresting for trespassing. Escort them out and advise the client to invest in a better security system to prevent this. I hope the security industry continues to grow and augment law enforcement. Perhaps proper communication and training would help so they know how to deal with these situations in a more suitable manner.
One question, what happens when we try to remove them from the building and they say fuck you I’m gonna stay here and smoke crack And the owner of the building has a plumber set to arrive the next hour. Do we call local police and wait a few hours? Cross our fingers they show up, there is a 40% chance no one will show Do we go in with 3 to 11 guys, enter with a shield and proper PPE and arrest the subject ( remember the subject made it clear he is not leaving on his own accord ) It truly is a shame that we are clogging up the system with this chickenshit, however put yourself in the shoes of someone who owns a building if there’s someone inside refusing to leave you want them out. This is one of the services we provide.
If you are truly a libertarian you would not support this type of private security. These organizations especially such proactive private security companies with armed response units provide a path to fascism. They will become the enforcement arm for large corporations. And nothing makes local government jump faster than big businesses. Just like the Federal reserve Bank is not part of the government, and they have their own police force with powers of arrest that actually patrol their Banks. But nobody's seems to know that because they have blurred the line between private security and government and police. And the bottom line is they are relying completely on the people they are interacting with not knowing the law. I wouldn't give one of these square badges the time of day. And before anyone can arrest another person for trespass they must have a complaint from the property owner. And that means all the property owners. If the husband says he doesn't want that person in the garage get him out of here. And that person goes to court and starts the trial and says the wife told me I could be there, he wins. and FYI I'm a retired defense attorney having handled over 5,000 cases. One thing that they have the benefit of is they are not constrained by the constitution. And therefore as long as they are not acting at the request of the police and as long as they have not become an extension of the police, they can actually turn over evidence to the police that, had the police seized that evidence it would have been inadmissible. But the bottom line is like I said earlier, they are relying on the fact that they are dealing with the lowest forms of humanity that have no idea about the law or their rights. Because if you remember in this video when there was a car stopped along skid row and a gentleman was talking to at the window and Mr square badge asked him what he was doing there, the gentleman replied none of your f****** business. So there's a guy that knows his rights somewhat and as you could see square badge could not do anything about that. But 99 out of 100 crackheads out there wouldn't even know the difference between the square badge and the real badge. And that is what the square badges are relying upon
Man you can dress it up anyway you want and dress it up anyway that you want, but at the end of the day you and this company want be a Law enforcement agency so bad. There is a reason why you and your company can not take and book the people that you so call "arrest"!! The only folks liking and subscribing to this none sense way of security officers acting like super cops with zero authority is the folks who couldn't become a law enforcement officer for some reason or another..
All the hate comments come from LEO community or keyboard warriors. I've been in Security 15 years and dealt with many LASD,LAPD they're absolutely worthless, not all of them, of course. They're always too busy fighting REAL crime GTFO we see you guys in "the shop" sleeping, texting, BS . The LAPD motto is " If you roll slow enough to the call by the time you get there, the problem should solve it's self" Quote on quote a 25+ years retired LAPD Sarg . The only people who support LEO are those who haven't never needed their services.
Crying because we know we will clear the building, the person will refuse to leave. Then the local’s come out, Clear the building again and take possession of our prisoner. We cry for the tax payers and the poor soul who may need police services but there searching a building we already searched…. We weap for the taxpayers
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity ahahahahhaha...... Yeah I'm sure that's why your top cop was crying. It was all because of the taxpayer dollars. If you think about it you're actually the one who wasted the taxpayer dollars in that instance..... Because you took cops away from real crime.... To escort and book in a prisoner that was most likely released on his own recognizance, or low bail and back on the street within a few hours..... When in reality.. all you had to do was escort them out and tell them to leave and not come back. You can't create extra work and then complain that the extra work has to be done.
Laps please comment back, when he was saying why can’t we do this or that, idk if he understands how much paper work and training it takes just to do the stuff that seems simple, if he wants to do police stuff why doesn’t he just become police
Of course we understand the burden. You don’t get it. Police are doing high level police work We are doing low level. So when we make an arrest it Doesn’t seem fair to pull away two, four or six police officers who are doing high-level crime to redo our low level work and then transport our prisoner
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity but you all are not police officers so how can you be doing police work??? You're literally doing something that any private citizen can do. You don't have any status. You don't have any authority. You guys literally put together vehicles and some uniforms.... And are now running around Los Angeles playing police officers.
I agree they need more training before getting a city contract to deal with low-level crimes, but I applaud what they are trying to do 👍 - I did armed Patrol accounts for a security company in Central Texas late 2000's & we had the old Police VCR recording in our trunk wired thru to little Asus mini-laptops in our vehicles plus live recordings while on property onto SD cards & yes we responded to low-level crime calls from our properties to determine if law enforcement needed to be called. We would escort homeless people from our properties but not arrest them . Too many areas have law enforcement stretched too thin & more is needed. A lot more training for security officers is also needed
We would love to get local police to train + talk to us. They still get confused when we arrest people. We wish we could pay CHP to attend (most) of their academy.
We are not your typical Security Agency..... "Anything you can all Police for, you can call us for". Your right, your not a typical security agency You overstepping your title, with no arrest or detainment authority, and u be in the rear seat of a cruiser in my state...just for what you posted here in this video.......
Ok Barney fife, please look up pc 837 You’re telling me words can get you arrested in your state ? Thank goodness we are not where you’re from. Please keep your hillbilly comments to yourself Gosh would hate to be your CO and have to approve your reports…. Lol
Greetings! My name is Davide, I am from Rome Italy, I am a private security agent, I am only writing to congratulate you! (I have seen the videos on youtube) unfortunately in Italy there are no realities like yours !! compliments inspirational diets. Davide Olivia
You’re going to great lengths to present yourself as a law enforcement agency while pulling DeWitte-esque shenanigans so as to not officially be in violation of impersonating law enforcement. You’re free to do as you wish with your business but understand you’re playing with fire and someday you might encounter someone wise enough to the fact that you are not law enforcement. Keep LARPing and it’ll catch up to you. 😂
Not sure what your trying imply here . It clearly says private security. It is very simple concept if you are on our property you will be arrested. We will use appropriate force to effect the arrest.
“Why can’t we take them to the station” I see your issue here. You’re trying to be the police but you shouldn’t try to be. You’re security, you are using citizens arrest powers that anybody can use, and I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, you guys have a good response time and a level of personal security that Police can’t match with you that’s why businesses contract with you. But now let’s say boom, you are granted arrest powers like law enforcement, now you have to take them to the station, spend 2-3 hours booking them (that’s if their complying), if their injured take them to the hospital and stay with them, write the report, go to court, now you lose officers who are available then you lose your response time, and that just leaves you as another slow responding law enforcement agency with nothing different to offer your clients.
We are not trying to be anything . We are a professional security company. We arrest on average six people per day, we believe we should not tie up local police with transporting our prisoners. We already do most of those activities , and you’re right it would be a strain on the company which means we would have to hire additional officers. Which will help the community with careers. The point is we want to help the city and be part of a solution not cause more problems
You're literally the halfway point to "Corpo police forces" talked about in sci-fi novels. Security? Security for whom? That question will become more relevant as time goes on. The dislike ratio says it all. It appears i'm not the only one with severe ethical concerns about this.
Security is literally in the name.. Protecting people. I’d sure hope they take it seriously. You see in the video how they are EXTREMELY careful in handling the people and doing their job correctly because there is a ton of liability with making a citizens arrest. They have to take their job extremely seriously and be sure that by the time the police arrive the captured person has no legit complains against the security officer and that the person who employed the service is satisfied and safe
@@Mrrobi02468 As an armed gaurd myself, we protect clients and private property. Law enforcement protects the public and city assets. We have no authority outside of the property we are providing security services for. It is not our job to play superhero across the street.
I think it makes sense. It frees up police to deal with serious crimes. Isolated small crime isn't really a big deal, but when it's constantly going on, it creates a lot of issues for a city and citizens. Do you guys exclusively work under contract for businesses? Or are you ever employed by a residents association or a group of residents
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity that's a really cool idea. I really wish you guys success. We have the same problems here in Ireland, lots of low end, but constant crime and the police not having the resources to address it. I don't understand why local governments don't try to legislate to give you guys more authority to transport criminals to jail's/ police stations. Its crazy taking a cop away from serious crime to process a drunk and disorderly or trespasser
U don't have no one "under arrest" u have the subjects detained! it's up to the officers if he or she want to take them into custody! and if they release them in front of u it can be for a number of reasons.
Hi JayPitts first of all your command of the English language is incredible. Secondly a security guard makes an arrest under penal code 602. In fact, it would be illegal for a security officer to detain anyone. a security officer has no right or legal privilege to detain anyone only to make an arrest but then again, you have that same power the only differences we have the training experience and tools on our belt to effectively make the arrest
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity well I thank u for understanding me and since u mentioned penal code 602 regarding effecting an arrest. I seen your rant stating that u want to transport the subject to the police department number one do u or your staff have any peace officer training and if so are you all licensed? I understand the LAPD officers frustration regarding u all doing building searches and possibly going beyond the scope of your duties. I have experience on both sides of the fence. With a large security company that's based out of California and 2 im a properly trained reserve officer and can relate to the frustration of the LAPD officer that spoke to u
Even if one has gone through POST certified Academy, you are never valid or licensed, unless you are employed by an agency. Yes, Jay Pitts we make arrests, and when we do the neighboring police agency is required to take the arrest . We do believe it should be our responsibility to transport them to jail instead of the locals Shouldn’t the police be doing police things not taking our prisoners to jail? But they do everyday …… But then again, we think the California highway patrol should not have been doing security details for large companies that were suffering from mob style robberies. We believe they should have paid for private security instead of leaning on the government.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity ooohhhhh! I got u! You are killing me softly with the words you are using! Your panties are in a bunch because certified police officers are doing security for a side job! Chp must've went thru a budget cut and if not. The business owner wayed there options to either hire someone like u or hire an active law enforcement officer where if he or she calls for assistance they are priority! Are u a guard agency or are u in house meaning u work directly for the property?
this has got to be the best case of police impersonating , they are taking it to far they even have k9 units. why do they need so much equipment for doing security
Hi i have question do you have in trunk tape to secure the place or traffic cones or only emergency services are allowed to have it? I see you have handguns what about tasers, papper spary and baton / night stick
Good Service, this is what happens when tax payer money/ politicians are NOT doing their job And for Sheriff's they should know better as their resources can be limited that service such as this is needed
I just want to let you know the only reason you are receiving this hate is because someone posted this on a Reddit Cringe page and all the anti police haters and internet lawyers stormed on you
I stumbled upon this video and I'm genuinely curious as to the professional background of the CEO of this company and what kind of training everyone has aside from BSIS Guard Card and BSIS Exposed Firearm. There's so many things wrong with the video, I don't know where to begin. It seems that you are trying to force yourself into becoming a POST accredited security agency. You want to be able to do so many things that a law enforcement officer do. It's not that simple. It's actually quite complicated to be able to do what you want to do, powers of arrest, transport, etc. There's so many laws that revolves around being a Peace Officer or Public Officer and to be quite frank, I can almost guarantee that you DO NOT want that headache.
We provide available service. I invite you to come on down to our station and see the positive difference we make in the community But We know you’re in a small town in Minnesota and have no idea what it’s like in the big city
I've been in security for 40 something years and it is illegal to have a police siren an lights besides a bullhorn on a security patrol vehicle. You have broken some california laws Mr.
I honestly have absolutely no idea if that wasn't just a joke or not but I do think we absolutely need a response team that just goes around responding to mental health related calls and domestic related issues with zero lethal capability or only has the ability to act purely in self defense and if that's a taxpayer funded private company than so be-it. Just do know that going in weapons aimed at a squatter actually may open you up to be legally shot and killed by the squatter. A combination of squatters rights and you coming in as an aggressor may allow lethal force to be used in self defense under specific circumstances that could apply. Whether or not the property owner hired you is largely irrelevant, especially if the squatters can prove they were there for a long enough duration.
We carry a firearm, a badge, and we drive a marked car with flashing lights and sirens. if someone disobeys our lawful order we place them in handcuffs. Call us anything you want, its ok =)
The best thing to do is to always to be in training of citizens arrest to not have any problems with that also thanks for all the good work you guys do always keep up the great work
I am security as well, got a lot of legal training outside of security, and someone asking for food or money asking for help is not a California criminal offense nor can it be a city ordinance. Per constitution of free speech... there are case laws that were heard an decided at the u.s. Supreme Court that banned law enforcement an government from arresting for asking for help, panhandling. Someone walking up to someone an asking for a little help is no longer a criminal offense. As long as there passing through an politely asking for help.. we can not trespass or arrest for that activity alone.
"Thank you Scot for your well thought out, I know you’re doing the best you can" @@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity At least his response was an actual and complete thought, unlike yours
You do know security will someday take over and possible replace the police?. Their is more security than police, it is cheaper for the people (tax payers). Plus, security are always the first Responder before the police comes. Chicago, some locations in the city the people are hiring security to patrol their street, yup patrol their streets. (Cops are to busy doing other things) and not enough officers on the street also.
Lol hope they dont think they should get arrest powers (outside of citizens arrest). Werent people against privatizations of the military, prison and etc. How the heck is it ok to do it to police
What were ultimately asking for is permission and training to transport someone after we have arrested them. The reason is there are not that many police cars out and about, so if we take a police car out of service to transport our prisoner we feel that is waste of city resources and we think The burden should be on the arresting organization This is how it is done in other states Think about it like this if there’s six cars in one area and 1 or 2 come out to clear the building then one takes possession and transports our prisoner that unit would be out of service for at least 3 hours Shouldn’t we be doing that so the police can stay out on the street to protect the city ?
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity train and transport them where? And that is the very definition of arrest. Only stuff that peace officers can do. Certain states contract private companies to transport prisoners from one prison from another and again even this varies from state to state. And no that is not what is done in other states. Even the power of citizens arrest vary widely from state to state. Without animosity I dont have any idea how you could be given that authority. Califronia allowing security companies powers of arrest? Probably not. If u cant do it on states as liberal as cali u cant do it anywhere probably
transport them where? to the same place a peace officer would, the los angeles Metropolitan detention center. And that is the very definition of arrest. that is not true an arrest is. seize (someone) by legal authority and take into custody. which under PC we already can do. we are asking to transport It is done in other states sir for example Virginia, Washington DC, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania also all over the country We already can arrest we Believe the responsibility on transport should be on the arresting organization and not the city Taking police officers out of the field to transport a prisoner OK take several hours in the citizens pay in blood
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Under what authority are you handcuffing these people and leading them into the back of your vehicle?
Penal code section 837. We make a citizen arrest.
As you can see in the video it is a danger for them to be inside for their safety and ours we put them into our patrol car.
Thank you for the question and look forward to answering more
LEO uniforms vary from city to city.
Los Angeles police wear a distinct midnight navy class B uniform.
We wear French blue with a gold stripe down the leg. We also wear external body armor which separates us from local police
To the local person we are indeed distinctly different than the local police.
@@vids595 hmm, not really, I disagree
These guys are literal clowns ruclips.net/video/nDcVwfAdnL8/видео.html
Citizens arrest.. the same thing that you or any other citizen could do. I think it would be funny if they were trying to make a citizen's arrest against a person, but that citizen perceived themselves to be in an attempted kidnapping situation and then the other guy decides to place them under citizens arrest for kidnapping.
How would that work?
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I'm tempted to move to LA just to work there. I used to work for a similar company called Paladin in Sacramento but they got sold out. I miss those days. Good work guys! Stay Safe!
Go for it! we are hiring =)
Love the uniforms gents godspeed
You guys are the very people we hate getting calls to show up on. Y’all play cops then hand your trash off to us..
That’s why we should transport them to jail? Then it would not burden the city?
Security guards generate so much unnecessary work for real police. The real cops don't care about a 602. They would just tell those bums to get lost because they have real crime to deal with
That’s part of the problem.
the property owner does care someone is creating a disturbance or making a mess on their property and refusing to leave.
Typically when we pull up, the negative elements remove them self
Sometimes folks refuse to leave , hide or flat out say no I’m not going to leave.
So in the rare situations when we do make an arrest It would be much more cost efficient for the city to train us / certify us how to do it and transport them to jail
It should be noted this would only negatively impact the bottom line however we believe this is the right thing to do.
The owner also looks like a tweaker
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity nerds
I cannot speak to the specific laws of California, but this does seem like a very good idea and a good Department. I am a professional law-enforcement officer of almost 20 years service. The only thing you have to watch is going beyond the limits of your jurisdiction and authority. Never transported subject, and never put them into your vehicle. You have no need to do that. Leave the subject where you detain them. If a detention is necessary.
Thanks mike, your absolutely right.
Sometimes we have to put in our patrol which is just out front.
We can’t transport and that’s the point of the video.
Here in California we can’t detain anybody, we make an arrest under penal code 837
Under that code the local police department is required to transport our prisoner.
So why not train us to transport and process so the city of LA doesn’t have to pay for it?
Keep in mind private ambulance use lights and sirens to clear traffic, if we have a call about a guy with a knife why can’t we?
Keep in mind frequently local police do not show up
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity I agree
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity you guys cant even detain, you have no authority
Correct, we make arrests under pc 837.
You are incorrect we have complete authority on private property.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity Keep in mind that private ambulances deal with emergent, life threatening situations and therefore require lights and sirens. There's nothing emergent about your trespasses and you have no authority to respond to a person with a knife call, especially not code-3. If there is a person with a knife, call 911. Do your job and observe and report. Nothing else.
LOL nerds!
You look like a nerd
@@PauIdenino i might be. Still nerds tho.
You Finns could use some private enforcement, I’ve been to Helsinki and the “refugees” have turned the main metro into a goblin hive. Cops do nothing.
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Thanks Bobby
Basically, they’re doing a police officer job without the same paycheck.
We pay more than LAPD and LASD =)
Can a private citizen make an arrest in the State of California? California Penal Code section 837 allows a private person to make a citizen’s arrest of a private person who commits a misdemeanor in a citizen’s presence, or commits a felony and a citizen has reasonable cause to believe the perpetrator committed it.
If the accused is found not guilty or charges are dismissed the private person whom made the arrest can be liable in a civil action for faults arrest.
I like it because you answered your own question
nah what the hell TSA doing bru 🤣😭😭
Not TSA
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity thoughts and opinions on TSA
What ?
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity do you like living in LA?
@BearStudios Yes
Bunch of nerds
More like LARP
Get you guard card we are hiring
Maybe you guys should push to be bylaw officers
😂😂😂😂
Thank you we tried to inject some humor
But honestly, I get what y'all are trying to do and I respect it.
Thank you sir
I'm studying public administration and would like to do something like someday.
We can help call to learn more
Im a client. I Love their service =)
You pay a monthly fee for someone to call 911 for you. I bet you feel really intelligent. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
nice
Thanks Kate!
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I’m a retired LASD Deputy Sheriff. I could not arrest an individual for trespassing unless they were first issued a notice of trespass and not to return. You’re definitely out there playing Super-cop…
Which gang are you affiliated with? It’s too bad your hands were tied and you were too impotent to be able to make an arrest for simple trespassing .
We do it every day .
I'm surprised they didn't add burglary or breaking and entering to the charges.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity Very professional way to respond to someone for being "Professional" Security.
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If anybody came at me dressed like a cop but not a cop and couldn't identify themself as a government employee, like you are coming at people, i would not hesitate to put their life below my freedom. And you would be liable for the result.
8:40 oh, so if they struggle and get hurt you are on the hook for any medical bills or otherwise they may incur. So the entire business is one lawsuit away from liquidation. Lmao. An absolute nutter on a power trip, no doubt
You seem like a psychopath.
@@PauIdenino You seem like a shill
@@PauIdenino Lol imagine calling someone a psycho for not wanting to be kidnapped
@@vids595 these guys look like proud boy wannabes. Some nut in cheap tactical gear comes at me and I will drop him. I don't care what nonsense they are shouting about citizen arrest ( also, some quick googling says you are wrong). I would have valid grounds to fear for my life.
@@posadistpossum
Imagine threatening to take someone's life because you're mad they have authority
As a private security officer myself I would be careful when making a citizens arrest. The person could sue you for false imprisonment or illegal detainment, so just be careful and watch what you do.
Your right, that’s why we all wear body cameras and document what’s going on to the cctv and typically we have an officer recoding from a drone as well
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity good idea. Better to be safe then sorry👍
Body cameras can save you and the company alot of pain and money! Mine always documents all interactions and contacts.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity you’re *
Regardless of their body cams, they are absolutely opening themselves up to such liability every time they pull something like this.
If I ever feel bad about my choices in life, I'll come back here and remind myself how sad your lives must be.
You have no idea sir !
lol
LAPD asking if it's your protocol to go inside the building...... What they mean is stop going in there cause they don't want to do paperwork and you are making paperwork for them
Ahh the old shovel on the door trick. Classic
Can’t go wrong with a classic !
Ya..... Give the subject a weapon to break into the structure or possibly attack one of their guards. Whoever came up with that idea should quit thinking as they aren't good at it.
Remember the kids that signed up for safety patrol in grade school? Or the kids that reminded the teachers they forgot to give homework?
Found out where they ended up!
And we found out where the kids on drugs ended up.
@@101Navyseals absolutely. Majority of security guards Did not do well in school and that often is contributed to drug use. Which is a contributing factor to their lack of skills.
As a security guard it helps if you have PC 832 powers to arrest AND.. a clear understanding of what the criteria is that must be met to affect a citizens arrest. Speak to a lawyer, try to find an agency that maybe has knowledge of a course put on by an LE agency or a POST certified course to help citizens understand what criterium must be met to legally affect a citizens arrest
You’re right Pc 832 is a great asset we encourage and pay for all of our officers to go through West Los Angeles college PC 832
Capt. Rivers is a great guy !!!
@Security my original comment made that clear...2 very distinct things.
I fully support this type of proactive security, especially because I believe in the free market and lean towards libertarian ideals. However, they should be careful not to overstep and engage in law enforcement activities such as clearing buildings and arresting for trespassing. Escort them out and advise the client to invest in a better security system to prevent this.
I hope the security industry continues to grow and augment law enforcement. Perhaps proper communication and training would help so they know how to deal with these situations in a more suitable manner.
One question, what happens when we try to remove them from the building and they say fuck you I’m gonna stay here and smoke crack
And the owner of the building has a plumber set to arrive the next hour.
Do we call local police and wait a few hours? Cross our fingers they show up, there is a 40% chance no one will show
Do we go in with 3 to 11 guys, enter with a shield and proper PPE and arrest the subject ( remember the subject made it clear he is not leaving on his own accord )
It truly is a shame that we are clogging up the system with this chickenshit, however put yourself in the shoes of someone who owns a building if there’s someone inside refusing to leave you want them out.
This is one of the services we provide.
If you are truly a libertarian you would not support this type of private security. These organizations especially such proactive private security companies with armed response units provide a path to fascism. They will become the enforcement arm for large corporations. And nothing makes local government jump faster than big businesses. Just like the Federal reserve Bank is not part of the government, and they have their own police force with powers of arrest that actually patrol their Banks. But nobody's seems to know that because they have blurred the line between private security and government and police. And the bottom line is they are relying completely on the people they are interacting with not knowing the law. I wouldn't give one of these square badges the time of day. And before anyone can arrest another person for trespass they must have a complaint from the property owner. And that means all the property owners. If the husband says he doesn't want that person in the garage get him out of here. And that person goes to court and starts the trial and says the wife told me I could be there, he wins. and FYI I'm a retired defense attorney having handled over 5,000 cases. One thing that they have the benefit of is they are not constrained by the constitution. And therefore as long as they are not acting at the request of the police and as long as they have not become an extension of the police, they can actually turn over evidence to the police that, had the police seized that evidence it would have been inadmissible. But the bottom line is like I said earlier, they are relying on the fact that they are dealing with the lowest forms of humanity that have no idea about the law or their rights. Because if you remember in this video when there was a car stopped along skid row and a gentleman was talking to at the window and Mr square badge asked him what he was doing there, the gentleman replied none of your f****** business. So there's a guy that knows his rights somewhat and as you could see square badge could not do anything about that. But 99 out of 100 crackheads out there wouldn't even know the difference between the square badge and the real badge. And that is what the square badges are relying upon
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity Nobody cares about property owners.
Interesting trespass law theory, mr defense attorney
Why would these guys make such a big deal over a trespass? It shows they have no business being cops.
Hi Steve
Man you can dress it up anyway you want and dress it up anyway that you want, but at the end of the day you and this company want be a Law enforcement agency so bad. There is a reason why you and your company can not take and book the people that you so call "arrest"!! The only folks liking and subscribing to this none sense way of security officers acting like super cops with zero authority is the folks who couldn't become a law enforcement officer for some reason or another..
What part of Los Angeles do you live in ? Please don’t tell us what we want
All the hate comments come from LEO community or keyboard warriors. I've been in Security 15 years and dealt with many LASD,LAPD they're absolutely worthless, not all of them, of course. They're always too busy fighting REAL crime GTFO we see you guys in "the shop" sleeping, texting, BS . The LAPD motto is " If you roll slow enough to the call by the time you get there, the problem should solve it's self" Quote on quote a 25+ years retired LAPD Sarg . The only people who support LEO are those who haven't never needed their services.
Just gonna leave this here
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bro you have absolutely zero authority 😭😭 you see one guy over the fence and you look like you're about to cry
Crying because we know we will clear the building, the person will refuse to leave.
Then the local’s come out, Clear the building again and take possession of our prisoner.
We cry for the tax payers and the poor soul who may need police services but there searching a building we already searched….
We weap for the taxpayers
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity lol
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity ahahahahhaha...... Yeah I'm sure that's why your top cop was crying. It was all because of the taxpayer dollars.
If you think about it you're actually the one who wasted the taxpayer dollars in that instance..... Because you took cops away from real crime.... To escort and book in a prisoner that was most likely released on his own recognizance, or low bail and back on the street within a few hours.....
When in reality.. all you had to do was escort them out and tell them to leave and not come back.
You can't create extra work and then complain that the extra work has to be done.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity this mf…
If only we could transport them to jail, that would solve everything
Laps please comment back, when he was saying why can’t we do this or that, idk if he understands how much paper work and training it takes just to do the stuff that seems simple, if he wants to do police stuff why doesn’t he just become police
Of course we understand the burden.
You don’t get it. Police are doing high level police work
We are doing low level.
So when we make an arrest it Doesn’t seem fair to pull away two, four or six police officers who are doing high-level crime to redo our low level work and then transport our prisoner
Also big fan thank you for the question Shrek
Shrek?
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity but you all are not police officers so how can you be doing police work???
You're literally doing something that any private citizen can do. You don't have any status. You don't have any authority. You guys literally put together vehicles and some uniforms.... And are now running around Los Angeles playing police officers.
I agree they need more training before getting a city contract to deal with low-level crimes, but I applaud what they are trying to do 👍
- I did armed Patrol accounts for a security company in Central Texas late 2000's & we had the old Police VCR recording in our trunk wired thru to little Asus mini-laptops in our vehicles plus live recordings while on property onto SD cards & yes we responded to low-level crime calls from our properties to determine if law enforcement needed to be called. We would escort homeless people from our properties but not arrest them . Too many areas have law enforcement stretched too thin & more is needed. A lot more training for security officers is also needed
We would love to get local police to train + talk to us. They still get confused when we arrest people. We wish we could pay CHP to attend (most) of their academy.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity What about sending your guards through a community college police academy?
We are not your typical Security Agency..... "Anything you can all Police for, you can call us for". Your right, your not a typical security agency You overstepping your title, with no arrest or detainment authority, and u be in the rear seat of a cruiser in my state...just for what you posted here in this video.......
Ok Barney fife, please look up pc 837
You’re telling me words can get you arrested in your state ? Thank goodness we are not where you’re from.
Please keep your hillbilly comments to yourself
Gosh would hate to be your CO and have to approve your reports…. Lol
Dinner lady’s have more authority than these clowns
What’s a dinner lady ?
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity someone who’s serves school dinners
Thanks for explaining
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Greetings! My name is Davide, I am from Rome Italy, I am a private security agent, I am only writing to congratulate you! (I have seen the videos on youtube)
unfortunately in Italy there are no realities like yours !!
compliments inspirational diets.
Davide Olivia
Nerds
you may aswell wear a banana suit with the yellow cars
There’s always money in the banana stand !
You’re going to great lengths to present yourself as a law enforcement agency while pulling DeWitte-esque shenanigans so as to not officially be in violation of impersonating law enforcement. You’re free to do as you wish with your business but understand you’re playing with fire and someday you might encounter someone wise enough to the fact that you are not law enforcement. Keep LARPing and it’ll catch up to you. 😂
Not sure what your trying imply here . It clearly says private security. It is very simple concept if you are on our property you will be arrested. We will use appropriate force to effect the arrest.
A private police force where my cell alerts you guys I'll pass sounds like system shock and cyberpunk 2077 you guys sound like mercs to me
This is great! I am the Educational security officer trainer for our site. Love it!
Jeremy DeWitte would be so proud of you!
"This is the LAPS" lolol. The Los Angeles Professional Secrity
lolol
Seems fine to me, my suggestion is to hire off duty officers if you can.
“Why can’t we take them to the station” I see your issue here. You’re trying to be the police but you shouldn’t try to be. You’re security, you are using citizens arrest powers that anybody can use, and I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, you guys have a good response time and a level of personal security that Police can’t match with you that’s why businesses contract with you. But now let’s say boom, you are granted arrest powers like law enforcement, now you have to take them to the station, spend 2-3 hours booking them (that’s if their complying), if their injured take them to the hospital and stay with them, write the report, go to court, now you lose officers who are available then you lose your response time, and that just leaves you as another slow responding law enforcement agency with nothing different to offer your clients.
We are not trying to be anything . We are a professional security company. We arrest on average six people per day, we believe we should not tie up local police with transporting our prisoners.
We already do most of those activities , and you’re right it would be a strain on the company which means we would have to hire additional officers. Which will help the community with careers.
The point is we want to help the city and be part of a solution not cause more problems
At 3:11 he’s talking on the radio without pressing the button
Yup, we call that movie magic.
In the showbiz world !
You're literally the halfway point to "Corpo police forces" talked about in sci-fi novels. Security? Security for whom? That question will become more relevant as time goes on. The dislike ratio says it all. It appears i'm not the only one with severe ethical concerns about this.
This is one of the reasons we value transparency. Thank you for the comment
Nerds
What clowns. No authority to use a siren, nor block a public street. These guys don't even wear a badge.
🤡 Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts 🤡
i think the idea and intent is good but you guys clearly take yourselves too seriously
They are here to make money. This is an ad. They need to take themselves seriously and appear professional.
Security is literally in the name.. Protecting people. I’d sure hope they take it seriously. You see in the video how they are EXTREMELY careful in handling the people and doing their job correctly because there is a ton of liability with making a citizens arrest. They have to take their job extremely seriously and be sure that by the time the police arrive the captured person has no legit complains against the security officer and that the person who employed the service is satisfied and safe
@@buddybrax they are not protecting people. They are protecting property.
@@buddybrax No no no no no they're not protecting people they're protecting clients.
@@Mrrobi02468 As an armed gaurd myself, we protect clients and private property. Law enforcement protects the public and city assets. We have no authority outside of the property we are providing security services for. It is not our job to play superhero across the street.
Subbed to see where this channel goes.
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Haha the cameraman zoomed in on the sweat pouring from his face when he realising the shovel was moved.😂
That is to signify the intensity
I think it makes sense. It frees up police to deal with serious crimes. Isolated small crime isn't really a big deal, but when it's constantly going on, it creates a lot of issues for a city and citizens. Do you guys exclusively work under contract for businesses? Or are you ever employed by a residents association or a group of residents
Yes. Businesses as well as homeowner associations, individual homes and entire streets
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity that's a really cool idea. I really wish you guys success. We have the same problems here in Ireland, lots of low end, but constant crime and the police not having the resources to address it. I don't understand why local governments don't try to legislate to give you guys more authority to transport criminals to jail's/ police stations. Its crazy taking a cop away from serious crime to process a drunk and disorderly or trespasser
Are we being Pranked?
whatever nerds
U don't have no one "under arrest" u have the subjects detained! it's up to the officers if he or she want to take them into custody! and if they release them in front of u it can be for a number of reasons.
Hi JayPitts first of all your command of the English language is incredible. Secondly a security guard makes an arrest under penal code 602. In fact, it would be illegal for a security officer to detain anyone. a security officer has no right or legal privilege to detain anyone only to make an arrest but then again, you have that same power the only differences we have the training experience and tools on our belt to effectively make the arrest
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity well I thank u for understanding me and since u mentioned penal code 602 regarding effecting an arrest. I seen your rant stating that u want to transport the subject to the police department number one do u or your staff have any peace officer training and if so are you all licensed? I understand the LAPD officers frustration regarding u all doing building searches and possibly going beyond the scope of your duties. I have experience on both sides of the fence. With a large security company that's based out of California and 2 im a properly trained reserve officer and can relate to the frustration of the LAPD officer that spoke to u
Even if one has gone through POST certified Academy, you are never valid or licensed, unless you are employed by an agency.
Yes, Jay Pitts we make arrests, and when we do the neighboring police agency is required to take the arrest .
We do believe it should be our responsibility to transport them to jail instead of the locals
Shouldn’t the police be doing police things not taking our prisoners to jail? But they do everyday ……
But then again, we think the California highway patrol should not have been doing security details for large companies that were suffering from mob style robberies. We believe they should have paid for private security instead of leaning on the government.
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity ooohhhhh! I got u! You are killing me softly with the words you are using! Your panties are in a bunch because certified police officers are doing security for a side job! Chp must've went thru a budget cut and if not. The business owner wayed there options to either hire someone like u or hire an active law enforcement officer where if he or she calls for assistance they are priority! Are u a guard agency or are u in house meaning u work directly for the property?
I like it I think they're doing a pretty good job they're definitely not like Jeremy dewitte that's for sure
Thank you pickels
but however California look very similar to South Africa in the way that law enforcement can't handle everything
The thing is they can handle everything. They just prioritize a shooting over a non-violent misdemeanor like trespassing.
this has got to be the best case of police impersonating , they are taking it to far they even have k9 units. why do they need so much equipment for doing security
Have you ever been to Los Angeles?
@@francium_8785 LOL
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity Look who deleted someone's comment 😆
Hi i have question do you have in trunk tape to secure the place or traffic cones or only emergency services are allowed to have it? I see you have handguns what about tasers, papper spary and baton / night stick
Trunk Tape for days
This dude is fucking terrified
Good Service, this is what happens when tax payer money/ politicians are NOT doing their job
And for Sheriff's they should know better as their resources can be limited that service such as this is needed
No way so gay
Yes
Definitely looks like they've seen a few up close.
NERDS!
Also, NERDS
This is insane. WTF is this crap?
You heard it folks…. [1:22]
Don’t live, sleep, or do drugs. Ever!
Not where you see our signage =]
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity lmfao
Thanks for keeping the conversation going
I just want to let you know the only reason you are receiving this hate is because someone posted this on a Reddit Cringe page and all the anti police haters and internet lawyers stormed on you
Again?
Honestly, I'd have to Agree with what that security guard was saying in this video.
11:42…because we are the Devils advocate. We have to ensure the law is enforced on all sides
I stumbled upon this video and I'm genuinely curious as to the professional background of the CEO of this company and what kind of training everyone has aside from BSIS Guard Card and BSIS Exposed Firearm. There's so many things wrong with the video, I don't know where to begin. It seems that you are trying to force yourself into becoming a POST accredited security agency. You want to be able to do so many things that a law enforcement officer do. It's not that simple. It's actually quite complicated to be able to do what you want to do, powers of arrest, transport, etc. There's so many laws that revolves around being a Peace Officer or Public Officer and to be quite frank, I can almost guarantee that you DO NOT want that headache.
Yes, it is a headache we would want
Check out our videos to find out why we believe it’s the right thing to do. Doesn’t seem right to be a burden to the taxpayer.
This is just like D.U.S.T pure BS!!!
We provide available service. I invite you to come on down to our station and see the positive difference we make in the community
But We know you’re in a small town in Minnesota and have no idea what it’s like in the big city
Nerds
Can we get more videos
get some motor units, great to get from Point A to B and costs less
We are actively hiring right now from Motor Officers right now
Just returning for my monthly laugh.
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I've been in security for 40 something years and it is illegal to have a police siren an lights besides a bullhorn on a security patrol vehicle. You have broken some california laws Mr.
What’s the penal code ?
I honestly have absolutely no idea if that wasn't just a joke or not but I do think we absolutely need a response team that just goes around responding to mental health related calls and domestic related issues with zero lethal capability or only has the ability to act purely in self defense and if that's a taxpayer funded private company than so be-it.
Just do know that going in weapons aimed at a squatter actually may open you up to be legally shot and killed by the squatter. A combination of squatters rights and you coming in as an aggressor may allow lethal force to be used in self defense under specific circumstances that could apply. Whether or not the property owner hired you is largely irrelevant, especially if the squatters can prove they were there for a long enough duration.
Adverse possession?
Big nice comment to say hey let’s just throw some people into some bad situations with no real means of protection…
@JR-ld1et what ?
#10:48 piece officer
Thanks for the stellar / insightful comment, Max
Good afternoon, I was wondering what are your costs? I live in a home and wanted to know monthly costs, but your website doesn't say. Thanks.
You are not law enforcement
We carry a firearm, a badge, and we drive a marked car with flashing lights and sirens. if someone disobeys our lawful order we place them in handcuffs. Call us anything you want, its ok =)
Jeremy DeWitt CA division
Best start believing in dystopian nightmares, you're in one.
Who are you talking to ?
The best thing to do is to always to be in training of citizens arrest to not have any problems with that also thanks for all the good work you guys do always keep up the great work
I am security as well, got a lot of legal training outside of security, and someone asking for food or money asking for help is not a California criminal offense nor can it be a city ordinance. Per constitution of free speech... there are case laws that were heard an decided at the u.s. Supreme Court that banned law enforcement an government from arresting for asking for help, panhandling. Someone walking up to someone an asking for a little help is no longer a criminal offense. As long as there passing through an politely asking for help.. we can not trespass or arrest for that activity alone.
Its interesting how you put all these words together to make a paragraph
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity glad to help
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Thank you Scot for your well thought out, I know you’re doing the best you can
"Thank you Scot for your well thought out, I know you’re doing the best you can" @@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity At least his response was an actual and complete thought, unlike yours
Ok refwah
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity A well thought out what
What what
If the law allowed this mite fix some of our issues in this country
Rent a cop dorks
You do know security will someday take over and possible replace the police?. Their is more security than police, it is cheaper for the people (tax payers). Plus, security are always the first Responder before the police comes. Chicago, some locations in the city the people are hiring security to patrol their street, yup patrol their streets. (Cops are to busy doing other things) and not enough officers on the street also.
Oh, really ? Interesting….
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What a bunch of clowns.
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@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity At least you're aelf-aware about it
You’re tight about that !
U must extend your reach
Always dreamed of working in Beverly hills
Where do i apply.
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If it makes sense the city don’t want it
Lol hope they dont think they should get arrest powers (outside of citizens arrest). Werent people against privatizations of the military, prison and etc. How the heck is it ok to do it to police
What were ultimately asking for is permission and training to transport someone after we have arrested them.
The reason is there are not that many police cars out and about, so if we take a police car out of service to transport our prisoner we feel that is waste of city resources and we think The burden should be on the arresting organization
This is how it is done in other states
Think about it like this if there’s six cars in one area and 1 or 2 come out to clear the building then one takes possession and transports our prisoner that unit would be out of service for at least 3 hours
Shouldn’t we be doing that so the police can stay out on the street to protect the city ?
@@LosAngelesProfessionalSecurity train and transport them where? And that is the very definition of arrest. Only stuff that peace officers can do. Certain states contract private companies to transport prisoners from one prison from another and again even this varies from state to state. And no that is not what is done in other states. Even the power of citizens arrest vary widely from state to state.
Without animosity I dont have any idea how you could be given that authority. Califronia allowing security companies powers of arrest? Probably not. If u cant do it on states as liberal as cali u cant do it anywhere probably
transport them where? to the same place a peace officer would, the los angeles Metropolitan detention center.
And that is the very definition of arrest. that is not true an arrest is. seize (someone) by legal authority and take into custody. which under PC we already can do. we are asking to transport
It is done in other states sir for example Virginia, Washington DC, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania also all over the country
We already can arrest we Believe the responsibility on transport should be on the arresting organization and not the city
Taking police officers out of the field to transport a prisoner OK take several hours in the citizens pay in blood