Small correction: UFO 50 wasn't *just* made by Derek "Spelunky" Yu but by a bunch of other people as well. Including the Downwell dev. Also, one thing that completely blew my mind when I found out - UFO 50 is made in Game Maker. Considering how messy a single project made by a single dev gets, it's genuinely impressive such a large team managed to make such a large project! (Internally it's a single project, the only thing that's loaded dynamically is the soundtrack - suddenly the cases where graphics are reused makes a lot more sense because every game's just gonna be able to access the graphics for any other game)
13:04 Yahtzee: "I'm really hoping for something that lets you control the trajectory of the ball in moments other than when you're flipping it like little afterburners so you can course correct, but hell don't listen to me if any of that will get in the way of the purity of the experience." >Pinball players literally throwing their bodyweight against machines to control where the ball goes.
UFO 50 is a wild thing to exist, given it has a Metroidvania, an RPG, one of those old school first-person horror games, rad puzzle games like Chameleon, La Mulana but with even less direction, and a bunch of other things.
As someone who likes pinball, and wants more things like this, here is my review of Pinball Spire. It is good at pinball, in the physics and mechanics, and it is for people who are good at pinball, which is a mixed blessing. Progression always hinges on being able to make one specific shot. The appeal of normal pinball is that there are a lot of other things that can happen if you don't do this one thing, but here you're just stuck on attempting this one thing over and over until you get through it. These challenges often hinge on holding the button for a certain power at the exact moment of success, as a way of making you sort of call your shot (as if you could possibly do it by accident). This interferes with the one-button-per-hand mindset conducive to playing pinball. The game is a lot more linear than something calling itself a "pinballvania" would like to admit, and it is short. I see that Yahtzee finished most of the game in a "Tries", because all that's left after the point where it sends you to the cellar is a quick climb up through everything you've already unlocked and one final boss. It is worthwhile, but after finishing it there's basically no reason to play again.
Thanks for your review. I’m also always looking for something like this and was curious about this. Yatz mentioned Yoku’s Island Express, and there’s also Rollers of the Realm (which is getting a sequel at some point) and The Creature in the Well (which isn’t pure pinball and maybe closer to pachinko, but still fun). Any other games you’d recommend?
@@websterbillingham8873 The best pioneers of exploration pinball gameplay were browser games that are hard to find or run anymore. I've been searching for one I remember from Kongregate and finally found it in its final form for free on itch: "I Am Level", a game in ultra-retro Monty-on-the-Run style (or VVVVVV style for the kids listening), primitive and ponderous but a true metroidvania map and all the more intriguing.
@@an2qzavokyeah, its getting old. I dont know what the term is, but fancier repetitive things sometimes would be really noticeable and wear you out quicker than subtler, simpler stuff. There's a reason why most games of this type just simply respawn players with no fuss, other than probably blinky animation to indicate temporary invincibility.
@@an2qzavok I mean, yeah it stops being funny after you’ve seen them a few times. But they still gave you a few laughs, and they aren’t harming the experience after that.
UFO 50 games starts around Commodore era and ends in 16bits. Every single game emulates game from a further period. There is even a backstory about in-universe studio that "made" those games. It is such unique, crazy project.
As someone who enjoys pinball, you are correct. Sometimes the machine is just plainly designed to at certain points or angles shove that ball straight down the center, and you don't have a chance in hell at even tapping it. :P Also, the balls can vary from light and floaty, to dense, to bouncy and swift af. Not to mention the angle of the table can affect so much, and sometimes you honestly wonder if the designers actually thought over the layout of the rails or the space of the flippers. Funny enough earlier tables at one point gave you FIVE BALLS instead of 3. (for like 50 cents USD) That being said I do still have a stronger fondness for modern tables, but that's mostly cause of all the music-heavy ones like the Iron Maiden, ACDC, and Metallica tables. (I'm surprised Stern has yet to even make a table for The Who ffs; it's right flippin there! No pun intended)
Marty knows how to talk to each of the cast members perfectly. He can do smalltalk AND talk about game mechanics/design without sounding like he wants to off into a video game essay, 10/10 host
Right when Marty joined Escapist he was much more willing to challenge Yahtzee's takes. Now he is more of a yes man with banter, and the occasional sarcasm.
My favorite livestream duo was Yahtzee and Frost. But, with Frost long since gone, Marty has really stepped up. So, Yahtz and Marty are my favorite, now. 😁
I do have to question which Second Wind staffer suggested UFO 50 for Yahtzee Tries (playing along, odds are it was Nick). I mean, it takes at least a good TWENTY HOURS or so to really experience everything (granted, your mileage may vary, but I'd say it's somewhere in the double-digits), to the point where, as I write this, no one has even beaten all 50 games yet, if the Steam achievements are any indication. Glad Yahtzee really liked it, but it's inclusion here feels like if someone suggested that Metaphor: ReFantazio should be here as well. Well, hopefully it gets a Fully Ramblomatic episode later if possible as well, especially since Yahtzee, being a story hound, didn't even get to experience the bits & pieces of UFO 50's story yet. And oh yes, there is a story! If not told through each game's history, genre shifts, and credits, then told through...well, I won't spoil anything, but this still being October, maybe you should check out Night Manor & its history...
A few people have cherried every game but also during the stream Yahtz lost interest in all the games within 10 minutes, sometimes without even bothering to press the b button then complaining about how he was bored. I wouldn't hold my breath for any kind of actual review from him on UFO 50.
@@wertjoe Wait, the Steam achievements say 0% of players earned the "Cherry Pie" achievement, though (unless they're rounding down instead of up)...Also, Yahtzee still seems to be enthusiastic about the game here. Again, I think it was just an issue of having to work with one hour, & it was just Yahtzee playfully switching to another game (though obviously, not every game will be for him, or anyone).
at the point where you write this, I know two people who've beaten all 50 games - and those are just in my personal circles. One of those people streamed the entire thing. It'll take about 100-300 hours depending on if you want to cherry everything or not.
@@SlyDante Rounding exists. Steam will show 0.0% if it's less than 1/2000 people. I have multiple 0.0% achievements on steam, but if you actually want to verify, the "beat all 50 games" achievement also has 0.0% and you can just go to Esty's twitch vods and see he's beaten them all, and even watch the whole process. Quite a lot of people have beaten all 50 games, it's just less than 1/2000
Oh yeah, I remember when I got a 20 in 1 collection for the Commodore 64. Results were mixed. The best game was probably the graphic adventure about the time-traveling gnome who can shoot lightning bolts.
my experience with ufo 50 went like this: -opens ufo 50 -runs barbuta -gets hooked -forgets about the other games -plays for 6 hours completely mapping things out on paper -closes game and leaves good review -realizes there are 49 more games to go
While I'm sorry you had to play a pinball game as a non-pinball fan, as a pinball fan your insight despite still have me very intrigued about Pinball Spire.
I used to also think that Pinball is impossible to get good at, simply because "ball through middle" is always run-ending. Then I played a good one (winXP Space Cadet, iirc), and while I only started because I enjoyed the infinity of "one more level" things one could reach, I eventually got the muscle memory for "when to hit in order to make it go in a direction", but then you also learn which directions lead to middle-end and which don't. Really surprising how good can you become at that game.
UFO 50 might be the best game I've played in years. It's got so much love and care put into it. It's really a love letter to game development and gaming in general. I fully recommend you give all the games a try if you have time.
I like Pinball and I loed Yoku's Island Express. Pinball Spire looks like a game for me so I consider this a recommendation. Thanks for pointing that game out.
Having played a couple of these, I was interested to see what Yahtzee said - even more so now I know he's a fellow Commodore 64 fan! Pinball Spire is fun if frustrating, I managed to complete it. And UFO 50 is superb - the narrative behind it (the fictional UFO Soft and its LX console) is so clever, and the way the games progress and become more complex over the supposed timeline is brilliantly done.
I love pinball but I like when it's confined to one table where you're triggering a ton of events and such. a huge map like that is kind of a turn off lol
Highly recommend playing more ufo 50. There is so much charm and attention to detail in it. You also played a few of the weaker games in my opinion. At least 25 of them are worth playing to completions
Essentially, yes! The idea is that the game is a compilation of the fake game company’s, “UFO Games”, library, so you get to see the history of titles they worked on and how they evolved over time, some of the games getting sequels and various assets being reused here and there.
Wait, Ludo's REAL!? I thought she was just a cartoon dog created for Design Delve! I didn't know he ACTUALLY had an adorable fur baby named Ludo! I hope she's just as sassy in real life.
Pinball is fun, but I never really liked video games based around it. I don't know if it's the difficulty or because of the times when you lose a ball and there is nothing you can do about it.
That jab at unethical games journalism and make a 2 hour video on it hit clean! I definitely think theres some transparency issues at second wind and maybe some restructuring could be in order, but I also think airing your dirty laundry for 2 hours isnt exactly the best look... Wishing the best for both Frost and the team at Second Wind
6:07 The "Triple A" space in the Games industry was pretty much creatively bankrupt when Naughty Dog chose to remake the first Last of Us game for some reason.
is it wrong that I want to play Europa out of spite, now? Also, what exactly does Yahtzee mean by the character not having a visible method of gliding? What does he think the high-tech backpack is for lmao.
Parcel Corps seems to have taken all the worst aspects of Forza Horizon without its ridiculously addictive handling model and the innate appeal of collecting cool cars
When i Yahtzee gonna try that Silent Hill 2 game? Given his love of Resident Evil 4, i think he'd probably like it. Hell, it'd probably feel familar... like playing a forgotten dream. (Sarcasm btw 😅)
@@Mopman43 yeah, I know it's coming. Just wanted to drop a smart-ass comment that sounded like someone who didn't know Yahtzee really loves Silent Hill 2 😅
Small correction: UFO 50 wasn't *just* made by Derek "Spelunky" Yu but by a bunch of other people as well. Including the Downwell dev.
Also, one thing that completely blew my mind when I found out - UFO 50 is made in Game Maker. Considering how messy a single project made by a single dev gets, it's genuinely impressive such a large team managed to make such a large project! (Internally it's a single project, the only thing that's loaded dynamically is the soundtrack - suddenly the cases where graphics are reused makes a lot more sense because every game's just gonna be able to access the graphics for any other game)
5:15 Ludo is a lot less snarky and whiny than Design Delve would lead me to believe
Ludo was being a good dog and not stealing Yahtzee's thunder. It's called being a team player.
UFO 50 IS SO GOOD - it’s got 49 more games than most games
Its the successor to the orange box that we shouldve gotten years ago
I heard you like games I put games in your game, so you could play while you play
If you liked UFO 50 then you'll love Action 52!!
@@sarahquinn9875Every game in Action 52 sucks with a lot of them not even being playable.
That's 4900% more game per game!
13:04 Yahtzee: "I'm really hoping for something that lets you control the trajectory of the ball in moments other than when you're flipping it like little afterburners so you can course correct, but hell don't listen to me if any of that will get in the way of the purity of the experience."
>Pinball players literally throwing their bodyweight against machines to control where the ball goes.
NGL, the whole review I just kept saying, "So, it's adventure-themed Sonic Spinball?". And I would be totally down for that.
It does not surprise me that Yahtzee likes the game in UFO 50 where you do a heist in 2D while playing as someone with a distinctive hat.
Whoa. Deep cut.
I was gonna say the exact same thing. And also, I should replay that, it was great!
I enjoyed Ludo being played like a little sitar.
I am usually immune to cuteness but that got me.
UFO 50 is a wild thing to exist, given it has a Metroidvania, an RPG, one of those old school first-person horror games, rad puzzle games like Chameleon, La Mulana but with even less direction, and a bunch of other things.
As someone who likes pinball, and wants more things like this, here is my review of Pinball Spire. It is good at pinball, in the physics and mechanics, and it is for people who are good at pinball, which is a mixed blessing. Progression always hinges on being able to make one specific shot. The appeal of normal pinball is that there are a lot of other things that can happen if you don't do this one thing, but here you're just stuck on attempting this one thing over and over until you get through it. These challenges often hinge on holding the button for a certain power at the exact moment of success, as a way of making you sort of call your shot (as if you could possibly do it by accident). This interferes with the one-button-per-hand mindset conducive to playing pinball. The game is a lot more linear than something calling itself a "pinballvania" would like to admit, and it is short. I see that Yahtzee finished most of the game in a "Tries", because all that's left after the point where it sends you to the cellar is a quick climb up through everything you've already unlocked and one final boss. It is worthwhile, but after finishing it there's basically no reason to play again.
Thanks for your review. I’m also always looking for something like this and was curious about this.
Yatz mentioned Yoku’s Island Express, and there’s also Rollers of the Realm (which is getting a sequel at some point) and The Creature in the Well (which isn’t pure pinball and maybe closer to pachinko, but still fun). Any other games you’d recommend?
@@websterbillingham8873 The best pioneers of exploration pinball gameplay were browser games that are hard to find or run anymore. I've been searching for one I remember from Kongregate and finally found it in its final form for free on itch: "I Am Level", a game in ultra-retro Monty-on-the-Run style (or VVVVVV style for the kids listening), primitive and ponderous but a true metroidvania map and all the more intriguing.
Okay but those animations of getting new bikes being thrown to you or pulling a spare out of your backpack are very funny.
only the first 10 times
Nah, not really.
@@an2qzavokyeah, its getting old. I dont know what the term is, but fancier repetitive things sometimes would be really noticeable and wear you out quicker than subtler, simpler stuff. There's a reason why most games of this type just simply respawn players with no fuss, other than probably blinky animation to indicate temporary invincibility.
@@an2qzavok I mean, yeah it stops being funny after you’ve seen them a few times. But they still gave you a few laughs, and they aren’t harming the experience after that.
UFO 50 games starts around Commodore era and ends in 16bits. Every single game emulates game from a further period. There is even a backstory about in-universe studio that "made" those games. It is such unique, crazy project.
As someone who enjoys pinball, you are correct.
Sometimes the machine is just plainly designed to at certain points or angles shove that ball straight down the center, and you don't have a chance in hell at even tapping it. :P
Also, the balls can vary from light and floaty, to dense, to bouncy and swift af. Not to mention the angle of the table can affect so much, and sometimes you honestly wonder if the designers actually thought over the layout of the rails or the space of the flippers.
Funny enough earlier tables at one point gave you FIVE BALLS instead of 3. (for like 50 cents USD)
That being said I do still have a stronger fondness for modern tables, but that's mostly cause of all the music-heavy ones like the Iron Maiden, ACDC, and Metallica tables. (I'm surprised Stern has yet to even make a table for The Who ffs; it's right flippin there! No pun intended)
I suddenly feel like watching a 2 hour video essay on ethics in games journalism…
Good point, talking to people is unethical and everyone should stop
yeah making fun of it like that isn't the best look lol.
@@goldie819 no but transparency is key, which to be fair they were to some degree (mentioning it)
@@OrangeGeneratorIt's always a good time to make fun of those pathetic GamerzGaterz.
They cooked Mr. freeze lmao
I love the Yahtzee and Marty streams, they play off each other in such fun ways.
Marty knows how to talk to each of the cast members perfectly. He can do smalltalk AND talk about game mechanics/design without sounding like he wants to off into a video game essay, 10/10 host
Right when Marty joined Escapist he was much more willing to challenge Yahtzee's takes. Now he is more of a yes man with banter, and the occasional sarcasm.
My favorite livestream duo was Yahtzee and Frost. But, with Frost long since gone, Marty has really stepped up. So, Yahtz and Marty are my favorite, now. 😁
I appreciate the Ludo break. I needed that.
I do have to question which Second Wind staffer suggested UFO 50 for Yahtzee Tries (playing along, odds are it was Nick). I mean, it takes at least a good TWENTY HOURS or so to really experience everything (granted, your mileage may vary, but I'd say it's somewhere in the double-digits), to the point where, as I write this, no one has even beaten all 50 games yet, if the Steam achievements are any indication. Glad Yahtzee really liked it, but it's inclusion here feels like if someone suggested that Metaphor: ReFantazio should be here as well.
Well, hopefully it gets a Fully Ramblomatic episode later if possible as well, especially since Yahtzee, being a story hound, didn't even get to experience the bits & pieces of UFO 50's story yet. And oh yes, there is a story! If not told through each game's history, genre shifts, and credits, then told through...well, I won't spoil anything, but this still being October, maybe you should check out Night Manor & its history...
I spent 20 hours on Grimstone alone. Even if one doesn't like most of these games, it's still a steal at 25 bucks.
A few people have cherried every game but also during the stream Yahtz lost interest in all the games within 10 minutes, sometimes without even bothering to press the b button then complaining about how he was bored. I wouldn't hold my breath for any kind of actual review from him on UFO 50.
@@wertjoe Wait, the Steam achievements say 0% of players earned the "Cherry Pie" achievement, though (unless they're rounding down instead of up)...Also, Yahtzee still seems to be enthusiastic about the game here. Again, I think it was just an issue of having to work with one hour, & it was just Yahtzee playfully switching to another game (though obviously, not every game will be for him, or anyone).
at the point where you write this, I know two people who've beaten all 50 games - and those are just in my personal circles. One of those people streamed the entire thing.
It'll take about 100-300 hours depending on if you want to cherry everything or not.
@@SlyDante Rounding exists. Steam will show 0.0% if it's less than 1/2000 people.
I have multiple 0.0% achievements on steam, but if you actually want to verify, the "beat all 50 games" achievement also has 0.0% and you can just go to Esty's twitch vods and see he's beaten them all, and even watch the whole process. Quite a lot of people have beaten all 50 games, it's just less than 1/2000
Wait. LUDO IS A REAL DOG!
Yes, she is. She is realiest dog.
No. That was just a highly realistic animation. They blew thousands of dollars on that one.
Probably the first time I’ve seen Ludo not dissing Jm8 all the tine
Sonic spinball also had this feel of an adventure pinball.
Oh yeah, I remember when I got a 20 in 1 collection for the Commodore 64. Results were mixed. The best game was probably the graphic adventure about the time-traveling gnome who can shoot lightning bolts.
my experience with ufo 50 went like this:
-opens ufo 50
-runs barbuta
-gets hooked
-forgets about the other games
-plays for 6 hours completely mapping things out on paper
-closes game and leaves good review
-realizes there are 49 more games to go
UFO 50 would be a good Fully Ramblomatic
Everybody should play UFO 50, it truly has something for everyone and the devs are all-stars.
Not really my generation of games. I started with PS2 and Game boy advance
I started with the GameCube and still loved it
While I'm sorry you had to play a pinball game as a non-pinball fan, as a pinball fan your insight despite still have me very intrigued about Pinball Spire.
I used to also think that Pinball is impossible to get good at, simply because "ball through middle" is always run-ending.
Then I played a good one (winXP Space Cadet, iirc), and while I only started because I enjoyed the infinity of "one more level" things one could reach, I eventually got the muscle memory for "when to hit in order to make it go in a direction", but then you also learn which directions lead to middle-end and which don't.
Really surprising how good can you become at that game.
UFO 50 might be the best game I've played in years. It's got so much love and care put into it. It's really a love letter to game development and gaming in general. I fully recommend you give all the games a try if you have time.
I like Pinball and I loed Yoku's Island Express. Pinball Spire looks like a game for me so I consider this a recommendation. Thanks for pointing that game out.
Having played a couple of these, I was interested to see what Yahtzee said - even more so now I know he's a fellow Commodore 64 fan!
Pinball Spire is fun if frustrating, I managed to complete it.
And UFO 50 is superb - the narrative behind it (the fictional UFO Soft and its LX console) is so clever, and the way the games progress and become more complex over the supposed timeline is brilliantly done.
Parcel Corps is now officially renamed Chunky Legs.
The noises he made playing pinball would make an incredible ringtone
We demand higher resolution Ludo breaks!
Hey now, there's also Sonic Spinball
Rollers of The Realm is another fairly fun pinball adventure game.
I love pinball but I like when it's confined to one table where you're triggering a ton of events and such. a huge map like that is kind of a turn off lol
Highly recommend playing more ufo 50. There is so much charm and attention to detail in it. You also played a few of the weaker games in my opinion. At least 25 of them are worth playing to completions
"Pinball Adventure"?
*More like SPINBALL*
Don't forget Sonic Spinball
So UFO 50 is basically Action 52 but done right?
Essentially, yes! The idea is that the game is a compilation of the fake game company’s, “UFO Games”, library, so you get to see the history of titles they worked on and how they evolved over time, some of the games getting sequels and various assets being reused here and there.
Wait, Ludo's REAL!? I thought she was just a cartoon dog created for Design Delve! I didn't know he ACTUALLY had an adorable fur baby named Ludo! I hope she's just as sassy in real life.
Please tell Ludo that she is a good dog and I love her. Thank you.
turns out Yahtzee does a surprisingly good wookiee impression
Dang it, you've convinced me to get UFO 50 after all! My backlog can wait a little longer
Mooncat is my spirit game
10:26 what about Sonic Pinball?
That bike game actually looked nice. Unique? Can't think of another outside of GTA side quests.
I cant believe someone made a pre-preqel to action 52.
Hahaha - that dumb and dumber edit made me laugh out loud!
Crusader Kings III mentioned LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
Yahtzee Paradox gamer confirmed !?!?!?!?
A Non Historically Material Grand Strategy game, Eww
Pinball spire makes me think of Laika. A cool game that i want to play but im just not good at it
ludo is real?
Hey could you tell me who edited the video, enjoyed it all but would love an editor shout out
Ufo 50 is indie game of the year
You would enjoy the upcoming game Eternal Strands I think
It's trying to do something fresh
10:28 i see yatzee never played sonic spinball
Hey, maybe Crusader Kings 3 SHOULD have more car chases.
UFO50 is my GOTY
Isn't pinball basically just alleyway?
Try the horror game from ufo 50 Yatzee. It's delicious.
Isn't UFO 50 a parody of Action 52?
Was that last noise a reference to Gmod idiot Box?
Your failure to appreciate Mooncat is pitiable.
The chickennugget on legs will be vindicated
Yahtzee gets me so hot with his bummer-bum analogies
Nice jab to Frost at the beginning
"Eeew-wup"
Pinball is fun, but I never really liked video games based around it. I don't know if it's the difficulty or because of the times when you lose a ball and there is nothing you can do about it.
I did like how the cyclist keeps pulling new bikes from everywhere.
Glad UFO 50 was touched on even if it wasn't the focus of a video. Might legitimately be the game of the year so far
2:53 Titanfallonabike Titanfallonabike Titanfallonabike Titanfallonabike Titanfallonabike Titanfallonabike
2:57 Nevermind. Not Titanfall on a bike.
Europa was already reviewed by bytesized so I am a bit disappointed to see it featured again instead of any other game
Frosty shade 😂
Where? I didn’t catch it
@@James-479 0:35
"Make a two hour video on it" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
That jab at unethical games journalism and make a 2 hour video on it hit clean! I definitely think theres some transparency issues at second wind and maybe some restructuring could be in order, but I also think airing your dirty laundry for 2 hours isnt exactly the best look... Wishing the best for both Frost and the team at Second Wind
I don’t think you’ll have enough time to try 53 games…
is UFO 50 a joke at Action 52? like, Action 52 --> Area 51 that totally has aliens guys --> UFO 50? or is that too much of a stretch
I don't know if it's a joke at it, but I think it's certainly inspired by Action 52 (except in UFO 50 the games are actually decent)
6:07
The "Triple A" space in the Games industry was pretty much creatively bankrupt when Naughty Dog chose to remake the first Last of Us game for some reason.
I recognized that gargle - “The Right Stuff” by New Kids on the Block
"I got the joke/reference!" is the worst class of comment section posts.
is it wrong that I want to play Europa out of spite, now?
Also, what exactly does Yahtzee mean by the character not having a visible method of gliding? What does he think the high-tech backpack is for lmao.
europa's got that painterly indie game aesthetic that I'm completely sick to the back teeth of.
Nothing wrong of trying for same vibes as Nintendo, but you need to do better than that I guess.
Parcel Corps seems to have taken all the worst aspects of Forza Horizon without its ridiculously addictive handling model and the innate appeal of collecting cool cars
Ufo 50 being 1/4th of another video is honestly kinda wack
Algo
Nive
These certainly where games but to bad that none of them seem interesting to me.
When i Yahtzee gonna try that Silent Hill 2 game? Given his love of Resident Evil 4, i think he'd probably like it. Hell, it'd probably feel familar... like playing a forgotten dream.
(Sarcasm btw 😅)
I believe he'll drop his review of it on Wednesday.
@@Mopman43 yeah, I know it's coming. Just wanted to drop a smart-ass comment that sounded like someone who didn't know Yahtzee really loves Silent Hill 2 😅