It’s good to have this grand podcasts/ discussions. Looking forward to having more of this occasionally 😁. Together we are stronger when facing this culture of sin.
Thank you, what a symbolic episode. Anglican and Catholic commentators coming together in appreciation for the legacy of Pope Benedict XVI. Then naturally moving onto shared concerns for society and the world. Brilliant. More please!
Loved the effort Kevin. Theological symphony. Encore please. All. I’ve been toggling to both programs with great interest. You have a unique synthesis here which God can use to great effect to bring all of us closer to the Truth of Christ. Even if done periodically. Thank you!
My favourite voices in the Church today!!! Thanks so much for this conversation!!! Please do more of this in future!!! God bless all of you and yours!!!
EO here, and I wish I could say that our hierarchy was exempt from power issues but - obviously! - I cannot. I can say that BVI had a large role in a great deepening of my faith with his homilies at JPII’s funeral (who helped me embrace apostolic Christianity) and afterward. Btw, would love to hear an Orthodox Unscripted helping us to negotiate our news, with occasional round tables with y’all.
Greetings all. That was a great conversation. l would like to say, I’m a cradle Catholic here in the states and old enough to remember Vatican ll. When I was an alter boy the Mass was said in Latin. I came across Anglican Unscripted first when I read a comment in an EWTN article. I heard about Catholic Unscripted from one of the RUclips videos on Anglican Unscripted. I guess you can’t get more ecumenical than that. Hopefully you’ll consider doing more of these dual Unscripted shows in the future. To be fair I will post this on both RUclips channels. Keep up the good work and if I can ask for some prayers my way for successful back surgery I’m going to have tomorrow. I would appreciate it. Thanks. God bless you all!
Benedict was so humble that he did not take his beloved cat with him to the Vatican when he became pope because pets are not allowed. So, he had to give up his cat rather than exercise his power to bring his cat.
unlike JP2 he discouraged the cult of the personality of the pope. In his early days as pope, he discouraged the crowds from singing to him "He's got the whole world in his hands"; shaking his head and pointing skywards as if to say, "not me; Him!"
Grrreat! (to see you all together). Mark's point about 'courting popularity' to retain power, and avoid controversy (such as proclamation of the kerygma will alway engender) is very valid. JESUS OF NAZARETH was not crucified for following that direction. My first experience of Joseph Ratzinger was as a young homosexual activist, living in North Wales during the 1970s, and was 'confused' with the conflict he was having at the time (I think he was Card. Archbishop of Munich) with a certain Hans Kung, of Tubingen; whose writings I read and admired. Later in life my interest in Christology took me to the books you mention, George, on JESUS OF NAZARETH. Having read two of these books I wrote to him as Benedict XVI to thank him for his writings, shortly after his retirement, at Castel Gandolfo. A few months later, I received, by post, an 'unexplained' small neck crucifix, and a signed photo-card, together with a 'With Compliments' slip. The card functions as a 'relevant' book-mark in those books to this day. I totally agree with you that Benedict was a man of theology and love: and I repent of all that anger I felt toward him as a young Christian man, back in the 1970s. May he rest in peace.
Bishop Fulton Sheen I was exposed to him through you tube, Amazing, love him. Sorry I know this is about Benedict. Thankfully a lot of Catholic and non are already saying his writing are already known to be theological classics. Amen. I am concerned where the church is going under Francis.
Benedict posthumously published a book yesterday- on the issue of gays in the priesthood and the associated scandals… its n Italian for now and no doubt Catholic commentators will be one job in a few days, sections are already available in English - unofficially
The late pope did receive a well-prepared Eggs Benedict funeral with cardinals and bishops from various countries in attendance representing the English muffin, the Canadian bacon and the Netherlands' Hollandaise sauce. As opposed to the mischaracterization that he received while he lived at the hands the relativist press, I pray that in his burial Benedict's egg does not get poached, but rather rests over easy until the resurrection omelette of the dead, God willingly cooking.
Too bad Benedict wasn't persuasive enough to stop Rowan Williams apostacy. My Anglican book club was appalled at his "To be a Christian," and the fact that it was such a clear harbinger of today's sick Church of England.
As theologian, Josef Ratzinger was quite wondeful. But Benedict was truly terrible pope. While John Paul II had a positive administrative policy that non-Italians should run most of the Vatican offices, Benedict put corrupt Italians to run everything and actually doomed himself. He didn't move a finger for two decades, as a prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, considering the problem called pedophile priests and he didn't understand anything about nuns and their role in modern world. Fruit(s) of his papacy are horrible. Such a shame that he didn't understand he was a terrible administrator comparing to John Paul II, Paul VI or John XXIII. World would be a better place if he didn't become a bishop and stayed in Regensburg.
Dear Petar, I wonder why this fiction is so often repeated because it shows no correlation to the facts whatsoever. As Prefect of the CDF, Ratzinger presented a draft law to St John Paul II that the Pope promulgated as the Motu Proprio Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela (MP SST) on 30 April 2001. Subsequently, in November 2001, the CDF obtained from the Pope the special faculty to derogate from the statute of limitations to facilitate an adequate response in the most egregious crimes. In February 2002, Cardinal Ratzinger requested and obtained from Pope John Paul II other special faculties aimed at expediting procedures in graviora delicta cases. At this time, it bears reminding, hundreds of historical cases were presented en masse to the CDF, especially from the US. Cardinal Ratzinger led the CDF’s response in constant dialogue with the canonical experts at the CDF and the local bishops, promoting formation on all levels. The review of hundreds of cases of sexual misconduct against minors by clergy provided Cardinal Ratzinger with a deeper insight into the dark face of certain aspects of the ministry and he presented numerous egregious cases directly to the Holy Father for ex officio dismissal from the clerical state. Towards the end of 2004, Cardinal Ratzinger ordered a review of all cases that had remained pending at the CDF, including some very high profile cases. When Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI in 2005 he ensured that the CDF’s work not only continued but was also supported. He renewed all the special faculties granted by his predecessor, St John Paul II, and requested that they be included in a new version of the Motu Proprio Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela that he then promulgated in 2010. As Pope he would review egregious cases of graviora delicta presented to him by the CDF on a weekly basis. Moreover, Benedict XVI was the first Pope to hold specific meetings with victims of sexual misconduct on his Pastoral Trips (eg Malta, 2010) and his Pastoral Letter to Catholics in Ireland (19 March 2010 which you can read here www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2010/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20100319_church-ireland.html) is widely regarded as the seminal reference text. In short, despite the oft repeated narrative you post here Petar, the truth is that as cardinal and pope, Benedict XVI did more to combat abuse and defrock abusers than any other pope and also pushed through revolutionary changes to church law to make it easier to defrock predator priests, and he sacked hundreds of them. More than any other pope. Certainly more than Francis. He was the first pontiff to meet with abuse survivors. And he reversed his revered predecessor on the most egregious case of the 20th century Catholic Church, finally taking action against a serial pedophile who was adored by St. John Paul II’s inner circle (Marcial Maciel).
@@marklambert5232 In 2001. He was Prefect from 1983. after Seper died. For about 20 years, the late Bavarian pope was ignoring all the letters and all the reports. The problem didn't started in 21st century, it started few decadedes earlier. Vatican had to react then (in 2001), cause the thing went out of the control. As Archbishop of Munich and Freising, few pedos slipped in front of his nose also.
It has been said that he did not want to be pope at all and stay in Regensberg.. the rationale is that he agreed to the traditional wings requests as they were desparate. to keep Francis out…..I don know myself-it may have been the Fatima expert Fr Kramer retd. who reported that - he doesn’t accept Francis is legitimate
@@naradaian This sedevacantism nonsense should stop. Nobody likes Francis but he has almost the same views when it comes to doctrine as Benedict. Nothing has changed in the Catholic Church, only lovers of the Latin mass got what they deserved (that's the question of the practice, not the doctrine), but nothing has changed. A lot of talk that goes nowhere while Church in Germany is slowly going towards autocephaly, which is ironic, since Benedict was German.
From a Catholic, Apostolic, Protestant, and Reformed Anglican point of view, Benedict taught much grievous error. He was however in some ways a great ally of orhtodox Christians so long as we Anglicans keep that big divide in mind. I just thought that needed to be said as my COVID symptoms fade and I recover my mojo.
Unlikely. Neither of us are persuaded by the exclusive truth claims of Rome. And that should be the reason one joins another Christian body -- not out of anger with the problems of your own, but because you are persuaded that the truth of God is best presented there. We believe the truth of God is best presented by the Anglican way
Jesus said to his followers, there is much that you do not yet know; knowledge of the faith is not confined to the scriptures, but develops down the ages, with authenticity guaranteed by the Holy Spirit through the Roman Magisterium.
Thank you all so much for sitting down to have this conversation. It was an absolute joy to listen in.
It’s good to have this grand podcasts/ discussions. Looking forward to having more of this occasionally 😁. Together we are stronger when facing this culture of sin.
Thank you 🙏
Thank you, what a symbolic episode. Anglican and Catholic commentators coming together in appreciation for the legacy of Pope Benedict XVI. Then naturally moving onto shared concerns for society and the world. Brilliant. More please!
Loved the effort Kevin. Theological symphony. Encore please. All. I’ve been toggling to both programs with great interest. You have a unique synthesis here which God can use to great effect to bring all of us closer to the Truth of Christ. Even if done periodically. Thank you!
Well done! Kevin ,you use your electronic equipment for God's work. Wonderful to see you all working together for God. Hope to see more in future.
My favourite voices in the Church today!!! Thanks so much for this conversation!!! Please do more of this in future!!! God bless all of you and yours!!!
Thank you Christopher and God bless you 🙏
EO here, and I wish I could say that our hierarchy was exempt from power issues but - obviously! - I cannot. I can say that BVI had a large role in a great deepening of my faith with his homilies at JPII’s funeral (who helped me embrace apostolic Christianity) and afterward. Btw, would love to hear an Orthodox Unscripted helping us to negotiate our news, with occasional round tables with y’all.
Greetings all. That was a great conversation. l would like to say, I’m a cradle Catholic here in the states and old enough to remember Vatican ll. When I was an alter boy the Mass was said in Latin. I came across Anglican Unscripted first when I read a comment in an EWTN article. I heard about Catholic Unscripted from one of the RUclips videos on Anglican Unscripted. I guess you can’t get more ecumenical than that.
Hopefully you’ll consider doing more of these dual Unscripted shows in the future. To be fair I will post this on both RUclips channels. Keep up the good work and if I can ask for some prayers my way for successful back surgery I’m going to have tomorrow. I would appreciate it. Thanks. God bless you all!
Thank you for your comment Chris. Be assured of our prayers for your back surgery 🙏
I forgot to thank Mark about mentioning the Brian Holdsworth channel.
Praying for you ….🙏
May the Lord bless you with healing, peace and strength. Remember to pray, hope and don't worry.
I shot off a Hail Mary for you, one old altar boy to another. Mea Culpa baby.....
Thank you, God bless you
Thank you for this program! I'm staying up too late to watch it! Sorry I missed it when first recorded. I was sick.
welcome back!
So well done, peace!
Glad to see the band back together!
Glad to see you back Fr Gavin.
I have loved this conversation. Please do it again. Thanks to all
Thank you Sharon 🙏
More please.
Benedict was so humble that he did not take his beloved cat with him to the Vatican when he became pope because pets are not allowed. So, he had to give up his cat rather than exercise his power to bring his cat.
Francis deprecated a woman who asked him to bless her dog; how mean-spirited not to see this simply as another, facet of love.
unlike JP2 he discouraged the cult of the personality of the pope. In his early days as pope, he discouraged the crowds from singing to him "He's got the whole world in his hands"; shaking his head and pointing skywards as if to say, "not me; Him!"
Grrreat! (to see you all together). Mark's point about 'courting popularity' to retain power, and avoid controversy (such as proclamation of the kerygma will alway engender) is very valid. JESUS OF NAZARETH was not crucified for following that direction. My first experience of Joseph Ratzinger was as a young homosexual activist, living in North Wales during the 1970s, and was 'confused' with the conflict he was having at the time (I think he was Card. Archbishop of Munich) with a certain Hans Kung, of Tubingen; whose writings I read and admired. Later in life my interest in Christology took me to the books you mention, George, on JESUS OF NAZARETH. Having read two of these books I wrote to him as Benedict XVI to thank him for his writings, shortly after his retirement, at Castel Gandolfo. A few months later, I received, by post, an 'unexplained' small neck crucifix, and a signed photo-card, together with a 'With Compliments' slip. The card functions as a 'relevant' book-mark in those books to this day. I totally agree with you that Benedict was a man of theology and love: and I repent of all that anger I felt toward him as a young Christian man, back in the 1970s. May he rest in peace.
Thank you for your comment and the beautiful story of the way in which Benedict touched your life 🙏
To hear Catholics speaking their minds about the Pope is quite an eye-opener.
Nice to see the old gang back together, plus.
This was great! Thank you all!
Thank you Pat 🙏
We must be like Priscilla and Aquila and seek to correct our leaders.
This is amazing! More please.
Thank you 🙏
Wow! What fun to listen to this! 😀
I am glad you guys did this.
Will Gavin make a guest appearance?
Yes
Good to hear!
Bishop Fulton Sheen I was exposed to him through you tube, Amazing, love him. Sorry I know this is about Benedict. Thankfully a lot of Catholic and non are already saying his writing are already known to be theological classics. Amen. I am concerned where the church is going under Francis.
What a good idea
We do find sweet=sounding ways to justify our own consumerism, don't we?
So VERY dynamic. Thank you.
Is that tradition with a small t or with a big T?
Benedict posthumously published a book yesterday- on the issue of gays in the priesthood and the associated scandals… its n Italian for now and no doubt Catholic commentators will be one job in a few days, sections are already available in English - unofficially
Troublesome Trio, meet Double Trouble.
its going to be good having 3 POMS commenting from the inside of the dissolution of commonsense in the UK and COE.
The late pope did receive a well-prepared Eggs Benedict funeral with cardinals and bishops from various countries in attendance representing the English muffin, the Canadian bacon and the Netherlands' Hollandaise sauce. As opposed to the mischaracterization that he received while he lived at the hands the relativist press, I pray that in his burial Benedict's egg does not get poached, but rather rests over easy until the resurrection omelette of the dead, God willingly cooking.
Caesar or God. One master.
Pope Francis's speech writer also writes for Kamaka Harris.
Yeah, it's always about America, isn't it?
Too bad Benedict wasn't persuasive enough to stop Rowan Williams apostacy. My Anglican book club was appalled at his "To be a Christian," and the fact that it was such a clear harbinger of today's sick Church of England.
As theologian, Josef Ratzinger was quite wondeful.
But Benedict was truly terrible pope. While John Paul II had a positive administrative policy that non-Italians should run most of the Vatican offices, Benedict put corrupt Italians to run everything and actually doomed himself. He didn't move a finger for two decades, as a prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, considering the problem called pedophile priests and he didn't understand anything about nuns and their role in modern world. Fruit(s) of his papacy are horrible.
Such a shame that he didn't understand he was a terrible administrator comparing to John Paul II, Paul VI or John XXIII. World would be a better place if he didn't become a bishop and stayed in Regensburg.
Dear Petar, I wonder why this fiction is so often repeated because it shows no correlation to the facts whatsoever. As Prefect of the CDF, Ratzinger presented a draft law to St John Paul II that the Pope promulgated as the Motu Proprio Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela (MP SST) on 30 April 2001. Subsequently, in November 2001, the CDF obtained from the Pope the special faculty to derogate from the statute of limitations to facilitate an adequate response in the most egregious crimes. In February 2002, Cardinal Ratzinger requested and obtained from Pope John Paul II other special faculties aimed at expediting procedures in graviora delicta cases. At this time, it bears reminding, hundreds of historical cases were presented en masse to the CDF, especially from the US. Cardinal Ratzinger led the CDF’s response in constant dialogue with the canonical experts at the CDF and the local bishops, promoting formation on all levels. The review of hundreds of cases of sexual misconduct against minors by clergy provided Cardinal Ratzinger with a deeper insight into the dark face of certain aspects of the ministry and he presented numerous egregious cases directly to the Holy Father for ex officio dismissal from the clerical state. Towards the end of 2004, Cardinal Ratzinger ordered a review of all cases that had remained pending at the CDF, including some very high profile cases. When Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI in 2005 he ensured that the CDF’s work not only continued but was also supported. He renewed all the special faculties granted by his predecessor, St John Paul II, and requested that they be included in a new version of the Motu Proprio Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela that he then promulgated in 2010. As Pope he would review egregious cases of graviora delicta presented to him by the CDF on a weekly basis.
Moreover, Benedict XVI was the first Pope to hold specific meetings with victims of sexual misconduct on his Pastoral Trips (eg Malta, 2010) and his Pastoral Letter to Catholics in Ireland (19 March 2010 which you can read here www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2010/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20100319_church-ireland.html) is widely regarded as the seminal reference text.
In short, despite the oft repeated narrative you post here Petar, the truth is that as cardinal and pope, Benedict XVI did more to combat abuse and defrock abusers than any other pope and also pushed through revolutionary changes to church law to make it easier to defrock predator priests, and he sacked hundreds of them. More than any other pope. Certainly more than Francis. He was the first pontiff to meet with abuse survivors. And he reversed his revered predecessor on the most egregious case of the 20th century Catholic Church, finally taking action against a serial pedophile who was adored by St. John Paul II’s inner circle (Marcial Maciel).
@@marklambert5232 In 2001. He was Prefect from 1983. after Seper died. For about 20 years, the late Bavarian pope was ignoring all the letters and all the reports. The problem didn't started in 21st century, it started few decadedes earlier. Vatican had to react then (in 2001), cause the thing went out of the control. As Archbishop of Munich and Freising, few pedos slipped in front of his nose also.
It has been said that he did not want to be pope at all and stay in Regensberg.. the rationale is that he agreed to the traditional wings requests as they were desparate. to keep Francis out…..I don know myself-it may have been the Fatima expert Fr Kramer retd. who reported that - he doesn’t accept Francis is legitimate
@@naradaian This sedevacantism nonsense should stop. Nobody likes Francis but he has almost the same views when it comes to doctrine as Benedict. Nothing has changed in the Catholic Church, only lovers of the Latin mass got what they deserved (that's the question of the practice, not the doctrine), but nothing has changed. A lot of talk that goes nowhere while Church in Germany is slowly going towards autocephaly, which is ironic, since Benedict was German.
@@PP266 most people like Francis.
From a Catholic, Apostolic, Protestant, and Reformed Anglican point of view, Benedict taught much grievous error. He was however in some ways a great ally of orhtodox Christians so long as we Anglicans keep that big divide in mind. I just thought that needed to be said as my COVID symptoms fade and I recover my mojo.
FR. George and Kevin will soon be crossing the Tiber
Unlikely. Neither of us are persuaded by the exclusive truth claims of Rome. And that should be the reason one joins another Christian body -- not out of anger with the problems of your own, but because you are persuaded that the truth of God is best presented there. We believe the truth of God is best presented by the Anglican way
What fellowship has Light with Darkness. Romanism is not scriptural George and Kevin. You have lost a viewer.
Jesus said to his followers, there is much that you do not yet know; knowledge of the faith is not confined to the scriptures, but develops down the ages, with authenticity guaranteed by the Holy Spirit through the Roman Magisterium.