WHY EV's AREN'T READY YET | 2021 FORD MUSTANG MACH-E!
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No cap, welcome everyone to the biggest, most ambitious video ever filmed here on PocketRockets!
Over a year in the making, waiting to get my hands on the all-new Ford Mustang Mach-E; a car that has divided opinions worldwide not just because it is Ford's first attempt at a Full EV platform but mainly because of the use of the 'Mustang' name
Now it's safe to say, I'm no EV fanboy; purely as their severe flawed concept (relying on batteries for range), the UK's forceful approach to getting people to invest their money into buying one against the state of the current infrastructure available and no real value for money compared to I.C.E apart from the claimed "environmental" benefits
To completely take bias and personal criticism out of the question, I decided to take the plunge and invited my good friend @CarObsession on a road trip from Land's End to John O'Groats to put the Mach-E to the test!
Can we make it? Watch to find out
Thank you to Aaron for taking out his time to join me on this trip and of course a big shout out to the team at Ford UK for bravely loaning me the car to test for the week
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0:00 | Intro
0:49 | Thanks to FreeTrade for sponsoring today’s video
1:03 | WAKEY WAKEY!
1:43 | The story behind the Ambitious Challenge
4:26 | The only sign of excitement on the trip
4:55 | Charging plans for the entire trip
7:01 | Current charging infrastructure & false statistics
9:16 | Too many companies involved / no charging consistency
10:35 | Prevent getting caught out!
12:03 | Range claimed v. Range in Reality
14:19 | Interlude to Charge Stop No. 1
14:31 | Charge Stop No. 1
15:37 | Charge Stop No. 1 Update
16:53 | Charge Stop No. 1 Cost
17:33 | Aaron’s time behind the wheel
18:12 | Pitfalls of getting beaten to a charging point
19:26 | Predicting the future of charging?
20:02 | Traffic & Sat Nav Issues
20:53 | Is buying a smaller battery EV more time & cost-effective?
22:12 | Performance v. Rivals
25:07 | Ride quality
26:41 | Our thoughts of the Mach-E over its comparable rivals
27:49 | Charge Stop No. 2
30:33 | Charge Stop No. 2 Cost
31:23 | Charge Stop No. 3
32:10 | Charge Stop No. 3 Update
33:45 | Charge Stop No. 3.5
34:14 | Charge Stop No. 3.5 Cost
34:35 | Mission Failed, we’ll get them next time!
34:39 | Facepalm time!
37:00 | Diesel v. Mach-E Fuel Comparison
39:56 | Summary
42:11 | Thank you all for watching!
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Thank you for stopping by!
Please remember if your views happen to not agree with mine or/& Aaron’s findings & general opinions, please refrain from being rude/nasty if you choose to comment.
It will not be tolerated, END OF!
Be friendly, constructive & discuss your views instead of bluntly leaving a dislike out of hate, as it will clearly demonstrate the lack of education regarding EV ownership!
Just appreciate a content creator of my size and lack of financial backing, I have invested a lot of time and effort to produce a real world test to this level.
Like everything in the world, there isn’t just positives, negatives exist too and it is certainly evident in this case.
P.S. Before you say no one does 838 miles in one go, you have missed the point of the video entirely …
Merry Christmas! 🎄
Excellent video providing a dose of reality re the lack of charging infrastructure. Same here in Ireland with many older 22kWh but far too few fast chargers about.
One comment here. The Ford charge times are based on 150Kw chargers. Most of the UK chargers are 50Kw. This is because the UK was putting in EV fast (semi fast) charging infrastructure very early in the game. It's very expensive to update DC fast chargers chargers.
Hi Dan, you are dead right there, but I'm sure (Chris will need to confirm this) that that chargers we were using were 120kW so whilst they're not AS fast, I don't believe it should take 1.5 hours. For example, I had the Mach E a few weeks back and it to 1 hour 45 when using a 50kW charger.
Yes you are correct; Ford's charge time is based on 150kWh chargers and we only had access to 'up to 120kWh' charging stations but the ones we used weren't giving us even 60kWh of charge.
As to your comment also, off camera I frequently charged the car at Gridserve Braintree on a 'up to 350kW charger' and only averaged a charge rate of 40-50 kWh.
As Aaron said it still shouldn't have taken us an average of an 1 hour and 45 mins.
Thank you for watching Dan
Great video, loved the car, the camaraderie and especially honest appraisal of electric vehicles and the charging network
Cheers pal! Glad you enjoyed the video, I'm still amazed how me and Aaron remained in good spirits and didn't murder each other 😂
Thanks for watching Nick!
Just like everything else in this world, to each his own. There are plenty people that will enjoy the performance (power and torque), convenience (home charging), and technology in an EV. If you’re a road warrior then an EV certainly isn’t your best option. Those of us that regularly commute less than 100 miles and want a practical car with a sub 4 second 0-60 time for well under $100k an EV is a great choice. Not to mention the Mach-e has stunning good looks.
EVs don’t need to be the future. Choice is great for consumers and having the option to go electric is a good thing. I have a gas powered truck and the Mach E. It’s a great combination and a couple years ago I would have laughed in your face if someone suggested I get an EV.
Thanks for watching Brian! 👍🏼
The main problem is that WLTP is used so much in Europe and the UK. This misinforms people on the actual real world range and it’s totally inaccurate for trips like this compared to the EPA rated range.
This shorter range compounded with the apparent lack of chargers faster than 50kW make a huge problem for road trips like this.
Yes, I already had a rough understanding of the problems of WLTP being used on EV's and estimated a rough route plan by using a lesser range for each charge but the car at the time of filming decided to make life a misery; ultimately making the trip unpredictable (which is madness and completely unacceptable)
The car wasn't even reaching the US EPA rated range so in the context of a long-distance trip (in the UK) the car couldn't do a simple trip that an I.C.E car could do with ease, as a result, it doesn't come close to working as demonstrated/proven.
Charging stations were rated "up to 120kW" but in reality, we weren't getting those speeds/service, again I planned to use rapid chargers across the trip but again we had our pants pulled down.
Saying that, I'd like to re-attempt a long-distance EV trip in Tesla to see the differences in the use of infrastructure, etc.
Thanks for watching and commenting! All the best 👍
Thanks for your efforts in pulling this video together guys, made for really interesting viewing. You make some very commendable arguments for why EV's aren't suitable for now and I would agree with you - to a point.
For the Mach-e and other EVs with say stated 200+ mileage range (yes I hear you, temperature impact and WLTP figures are usually way off the mark) they are great for everyday driving, work commute etc. However, they will not cut it if you regularly drive long distances. If you regularly boost up and down the motorway for 3 hours at a time, then an EV just isn't for you. I occasionally have a 300 mile round drip, maybe 2-3 times a year and happy to stop off and charge for an hour to do so and pay the privilege. It's still cheaper than ICE. 95% of my driving is easily within the capabilities of an EV and I would imagine my driving habits are similar to the majority of the population.
I own a Mach-e, the standard RWD with a 'claimed' range of 273 miles and I don't have any issues with driving day to day. I have a home charger and I comfortably get 150 miles minimum (winter) to about 230 in Summer. The claimed range of 273 miles might be achievable in 80 degree heat going downhill!
So, I think its a little unfair to knock EV's per se. Yes, there are issues with the charging infrastructure, in particular the reliance and maintenance of them (no point having thousands if 30% are constantly our of order) but I think and hope that will improve. Otherwise I'm a convert and would not go back to ICE.
Hi Mark! Welcome to the channel, thank you for stopping by, being constructive & polite, oh and of course for watching!
EV's maybe cheaper to run currently, but remember this year alone the UK government grants for EV buyers have halved (doesn't make much sense considering it was designed to help people switch)
Also, they have already backtracked on investments to deliver a charging infrastructure to keep up with the rate of EVs being bought 🤷🏽♂️
Not everyone has spare change in their pockets to offer the current offering of EVs available on the market and the ones that may allow people's wallet to stretch, don't cut the mustard when it comes to a decent range
Also, EV of course benefit from tax free and other incentives but for how much longer alongside the environmental impacts they will cause in the long term (battery replacement/disposal)
This also excludes the cost of home chargers to get save yourself getting fleeced at public stations and not even taking into account if you have the luxury of off-roading parking
As I'll come back to, a car is a concept designed to improve and make your life easy/convenient; as we have proven in the most extreme case - you can't rely on it
Ford have made a great first attempt at building an EV, don't get me wrong but at the same time there are too many flaws (as demonstrated)
All the best 👍🏼
@@PocketRockets Appreciate the reply and time to consider my points. I could take issue with all of your points but that my seem impolite. Although I'll just mention one car that I'll throw onto the mix - the new MG ZS EV.
Not sure the issues you have with my response Mark, completely up for a discussion with you
They are all fair, reasonable and backed up by the video itself alongside concerning points I.e. battery replacement/environmental impacts that no one seems to think/talk about
I've experienced a I.C.E MG ZS and it's cheap for a reason, still not really a solution
Out of curiosity, apart from the short term cost savings; what made you switch to EV?
@@PocketRockets I switched because I actually wanted to play my part in, however small, improving the climate change disaster. It was made easier by the offer of an electric company car, so I'm very fortunate in that regard. The whole issue of battery manufacture and disposal is not as damaging as many people think, the has been done very damaging and frankly misleading articles published. Manufacturers have a duty and moral responsibility to minimise any environmental impact. Batteries will in most cars outlive the car itself. Degradation had more been proven to be insignificant over the life of a car and when that time does come, day 10 years on, the batteries can be repurposed. They won't be thrown onto landfill. The entire industry is relient on economies of scale. As EV ownership is adopted (if the UK government don't screw it up) then the challenges you highlight will be overcome. We all need to embrace this change, not create more barriers.
Awesome video again love it guys
Nice one fella, great vid and important info tbh, I definitely share the same opinions at the moment on EV’s no doubt.
Thanks mate! A lot of money and time pumped into making it, gutted we couldn't make it 😓 ... MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU & YOUR FAMILY 👪
@@PocketRockets I know that feeling my G, thanks bud and to you too. Love to all the Fam.
Looked a rough trip. Just done 500 miles for £37 in a Tesla LR having topped up at home for 40p. I think it was more the Mach e and the speed of the rapid chargers rather than EV’s in general.
Rough is one word for it 🙈 ... Even if the car performed faultlessly, we would still of had to charge 3 - 4 times for a minimum of 45 minutes each
Alongside that, we would still have the risks of being stuck waiting for others using the pods, pods not working, the pods not performing or a mixture of all three
It seems Tesla ownership is a lot different to a normal EV so can't rule EVs being heavily flawed, the points above highlights it on its own, a shame as the infrastructure should be one provider ... but like everything there is a motive of greed 👎🏼
P.S. can I ask why you're paying 40p kW/h at home?
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Yeah, it wasn't the best of trips Stockdale! Thanks for watching.
As you know at present time it is posable to go for petrol/diesel and the pump is empty and the same applies YOU CAN'T PUT ELECTRIC IN IT. Breakdown service tow comes to mind.
That's only because of other factors stopping getting fuel to stations, not because of a shortage
Mach e u know man Mach e GT now available
We didn't have access to that version as Ford UK Press vehicles hadn't arrived yet, in context of the video it wouldn't have made much difference probably worse 🙈 👀 Thanks for watching!
@@PocketRockets Thank you for all efforts man it's phenomenally appreciated have a great week too
Saying the car didn’t perform really isn’t accurate. The issue is clearly with the charging infrastructure in the UK as it clearly is not ready for long trips. In the US with access to 150Kw chargers I’ve done 500 mile trips in about 10 hours with no issues with my Mustang Mach-E. From what I saw in your video any EV not just the Mach-E would have the issues you ran into because of the charging infrastructure.
The car didn't perform, the video has proven that fact!
The charging infrastructure was one of the many issues with the trip
Charging an EV to 80% shouldn't take 2 hours
Thanks for watching Stephen, maybe watch it all though 👍🏼
Am I mistaken, how much electric was consumed by the back seat light being left on? You can see it above the passenger side door when the passenger in the front moves his head forward.
Good spot! Didn't even know it was on till you've just spotted it, I'd imagine as an educated guess that would be using the battery on board rather than the 99kwH battery pack
Regardless to that, there was issues with the cars battery performance
Thanks for watching!
Good spot Dave! Given the fact that light probably requires very little power I doubt it would made any difference, plus as Chris said, the 12V battery probably would have handed that. Let's put it this way, the heated seats make no difference to the range. Thanks for watching.
Best wishes
U know the new Ioniq five have been ordered with all wheel drive even the ev six from Kia will have more power out put theoretical it will impact the range vw I'd four gtx
Unfortunately Marcel, most of EVs currently are plagued with those daunting issues 😕 Especially the likes of the ID 4, they not only have a smaller battery but even less range on paper too!
@@PocketRockets That's true it's a hell of a complex situation you know what's interesting the Ford F150 Lightning Pick up truck apparently has 200 000 orders already infrastructure is soo important well if u do speeding u going through range like mad. Norway are number one for evs and charging points now. Hey you doing a great job.
I think EVs are the way forward but 10 petrol pumps to 1 charger will not work as it takes longer to charge 10 chargers to 1 petrol pump will be needed
I disagree personally as we've shown it clearly in the video
It's a shame you guys didn't finish it. As impressive as EV's are, I don’t think they're the way forward yet and I don't believe they will be for a good few years. I'm staying with petrol powered cars for the time being ;)
Thanks for tuning in Sam! A few years is optimistic considering the state of the charging infrastructure 🙈😂 ... A good thing you have a Fiesta ST to keep you busy, have a good Christmas and see you in 2022!
@@PocketRockets Haha true that! Thanks mate, and you! Happy new year as well! 😊
Likewise! A drive out somewhere should be on the cards for 2022 👍🏼
Hi Mr PocketRockets
Sorry I didn't catch your name I must of missed it, so I'll just call you Mr P....
I took up you invitation to watch your video on the Ford Mustang Mach E EV.
Well at first I thought, Woww you lucky buggers getting to do a review drive to John O' Groats from Lands End.... But at the end of it I really felt for you guys. For EV's that journey was just Pants.😭
I can't agree with you any less, you're right on the money as far as I'm concerned. The charging times added to your journey is just ridiculous. And as Aaron rightly stated the extra time waiting getting on a charging station? And this is before EV's take the majority of vehicles on the road.
Having to rely on service stations to refuel/recharge, well Mr P I've been driving nearly 40yrs now, and I'm a guy that refuses to be taken advantage of. And I can probably count on one hand how many times I've use motorway services to refuel. I avoid them like the Plague. Robbing ********............😤
The wife and I love to visit Scotland as much as we can. And like any holiday we go on in this country, we always leave with a full tank and try our best to refill once off the motorways/Services. So I can't see us owning a full EV at present, if ever?
I can remember back in the 70's my father had his car converted to Calor gas, as he worked for the company and he must of had some kind of incentive offered to do so. The car could still run on petrol though, he just had the advantage to run on either.
The point is though, finding a place to refill the gas cylinder when it ran out. At home it wasn't a problem as he refilled at the depot where he worked. But if we travelled away he would have to find places which had filling points. He was given a directory which listed all these locations, and sometimes you could drive a good hour to get there.
Gas was a slow option to arrive at fuel forecourts, perhaps it didn't really take off, so I do wonder whether the EV will?
I don't know if electric is the answer, I also wonder whether there will be some new kind a green energy which will be invented in the future. Who knows?
Referring back to your Kuga PHEV drive is the reason I came across your reviews, as we are changing our present vehicle over to this model.
I understood that you were proofing out the spec mileage on "EV only" But people need to understand that the PHEV is designed to operate mainly as a combined Combustible engine/electric motor, when the driving conditions allow, hence "Hybrid" This is a interim vehicle really from probably getting us from combustible engines to electric.
The small electric range on the PHEV is what I understand is for more urban driving where speeds of 30mph or lower, congestion or Low/Ultra Emission Zones come into play.
Although you can put the vehicle into "EV Only", I feel it's better to use this mode in more appropriate conditions, where as in Hybrid Mode you are getting more regeneration to the battery if you are not too heavily footed.
Thank you for your research regarding the batteries. That doesn't look good future prospects either. I did hear that one about the Nissan Leaf. I friend of mine tried one out on a few days test drive before he went on and purchased a Tesla.
Evening David! The name's Chris but I like the guesswork 👍🏼🤣
Thanks for dropping by on the video, very thankful and glad it gave you an insight into our long distance EV test
Crazy to think service station fuel are still allowed to rob everyone 🤯
Extremely disappointed in the outcome, I looked forward to travelling further into Scotland for some driving roads and scenery
I do get your statement on PHEVs but as I will explain in the full review (yet to come) it seems criminal and kind of backwards making a SUV even more heavier especially if you want to use in towns, the range you get from it and then the bill to replace the battery for the little you get back
Despite that, the Kuga is a lovely car, I'm no SUV fan but I did enjoy my time with it (aside the PHEV part haha)
I hope you're not waiting too long for yours to arrive
As always, thanks for watching and hope you'd be kind to subscribe so you don't miss out on the Kuga Review coming soon 👍🏼
All the best
Hi David, thanks for watching pal!
What an experience! I'm still having therapy to get over it!
🤣🤣🤣 I think unforgettable is the way to describe it! Thanks again for accompanying me on the adventure!
You know since i have been driving electric car i do not have those maintenence nightmare with diesel and petrol cars becouse i drive lots of miles every year 3 years driving electric no maintenence at all ice cars are simly outdated and finished forever
Wait until you get the bill for a replacement battery and the longer you own it for the worse of you are for resale value
Any I.C.E car I've owned has never let down as I do regular maintenance to look after it
Thanks for watching Marty!
That car in the US is only rated for 305 miles. The key to happiness is low expectations.
Thing is Dan, why should we have low expectations? You shouldn't buy a new car with low expectations, it should really be the opposite. Thanks for watching.
A car is designed to be a convenience not an inconvenience especially when youre spending near to £48k for it!
We didn't even get near 250 miles let alone 305 🤷🏽♂️
I think there is some km and miles confusion going on. I wonder if they were driving the extended (about 270 to 315 miles depending on trim level) or the standard range (about 224 to 247 miles or 360 to 397km).
@@stephenjones8645 Hello Stephen, thanks for watching. In the UK, the extended range rear wheel drive version is rated at 379 miles whilst the AWD version is rated at 335 miles.
@@CarObsession I stand corrected. I looked into it and see that range estimates are calculated more liberally in the UK. Very interesting.