Geeky nerdy techy made a video about overheating of the G9II in the Australian summer. Seems like it is significantly affected by direct sunlight due to the black metal. It apparently overheated at 30°C (~86°F) when in direct sunlight but didn't overheat in when in the shade at 40°C (~104°F).
Fortunately I didn't upgrade my GH5 yet. My camera never overheated on me after 7 years using it at any weather condition! An upgrade will be worth it for me when it has a better autofocus system in the m43 line and that I don't have to worry about overheating especially over the summer. So glad that I didn't upgrade yet. Thanks for the video!
I will not EVER buy ANY camera again if it is not actively cooled. In 2024, no fan, no buy. I kept my GH6 only because the G9-II had no fan. I'll wait for the GH7.
Panasonic has never claimed, that the G9 II can works forever without overheating in any condition. On the contrary. I would allways prefere to have the features and know that in certain circumstanses, there will be a limit. If a function is critical then by the tool that Panasonic claims can do the job.
@@_tographer I'm not sure I agree, or perhaps misunderstand your point. As you have mentioned, many times, the G9ii is a stills camera, that's how it has been marketed from day one, as far as I know. That's WHY there's no fan, because stills shooter don't want the extra holes in the body. The fact that it can, in theory, also shoot all these video modes is cool, but I wouldn't expect it to perform as well as the GH6. I feel like, and I could be misreading the room, that a lot of video people WANT to love the G9ii and take advantage of its features, and are then disappointed that it is, in fact, still a photo camera and not a video camera. Edited to add: thoughts on the later parts of the video. I think it IS acceptable for a photo camera to overheat in some conditions when shooting high-end video. I wouldn't buy a camera with a fan. Perhaps they should just leave out the video features(as you point out), that wouldn't bother me. I think the issue is that we, the public, are demanding all things in one camera, and I don't think that really works. One thing that Olympus/OM System has done is, to be honest, had mid-tier video in their cameras. No one is getting an OM-1 as their video camera, and that's the way they like it. Perhaps Lumix needs to just strip back the G9ii features, but I think we'd have a riot on our hands if they did. Look at the shit Canon has taken for limiting their cameras to protect their pro video line. Then they put out the R5 and it overheats, so... /shrug
The general online zeitgeist hype around the G9II has been “it’s a GH6 with phase detect!” Or “the BEST micro43 camera ever” - I have seen very little discussion or acknowledgment of overheating except for a random comment here or there and even then, it’s been a “maybe it could possibly overheat” This camera has only been around since November so I don’t blame people for not knowing the full limitations but that’s why I made this video - to acknowledge, what I feel like, is a very serious concern for many shooters. Reliability is one of the biggest unspoken features any product should have. It’s not fair to customers to say a camera can do X Y and Z and then leave the limitations ambiguous, vague, and undetermined. Saying “it’s a stills camera!” isn’t an excuse when the marketing will tout all the video features and capabilities. Everyone wants to celebrate and cheer when these cameras get all these amazing specs but the moment you criticize the problems with those specs, they retreat to “well it’s just for photos” or “go buy a real video camera instead.” It’s a genius way to sell a product and then hedge it from any criticism.
@@_tographer I don't disagree with your frustration, and I 100% agree that people should know if a camera is overheating under x conditions. I guess my counter point is that, at least from what I've seen, all of the 'GH6+PDAF' has been from RUclipsrs, not from Lumix. In fact, I've watched videos of people pointing out that the G9ii is a great video camera and questioning why it wasn't marketed as such. I'm looking at the page on the Panasonic site right now, and there are only a couple mentions of video features, the rest is about the fast AF, the preburst modes, the ergonomics, IBIS, and so on. I just haven't seen Lumix say it's a video workhorse, but if I've missed it let me know. I feel like this compromise of high-end video that might cook the camera is about the best version we're likely to get. If you remove features, people complain or just go with a system that doesn't. If you limit record times, it's annoying in controlled environments where there wasn't going to be a thermal issue, and it doesn't really help in hot environments where there is. Sometimes I feel like shooting some slow motion or high res video, but I'm unlikely to ever shoot enough to have heat issues(I did once on my R5 shooting slow-mo of fireworks in the summer heat). I either have to lose that ability entirely, buy two cameras, or compromise weather sealing by have vents. I suppose the best solution would be to have clearer warnings/caveats from Lumix(Canon, etc.) on the sort of conditions that might cause thermal issues.
@@_tographer weird, I replied and then thought of something else, and... it's not here. Long story short: If I was a video person, I would DEFINITELY want to know about the heat issues you're seeing, so thank you for putting it out there. What I haven't seen is Lumix, as a company/brand, marketing the G9ii as a video camera in the way that Canon touted the R5 and its 8k ability. Canon should have received every ounce of backlash for that marketing BS, but I don't see Lumix doing that same thing. That, I guess, it why I don't see this as such a huge betrayal.
I have overheated my G9ii multiple times in FHD (the easiest possible setting). Exactly how you said. I have done it at 90 degrees F, at 30 minutes. It was in the shade, but outdoors it was 90 degrees.
Great breakdown. My gh5ii is soo good, I can't think of a surefire upgrade in the Lumix lineup. Its that good and such a joy to use. I've rented the G6, S5ii & am using the G9ii right now btw.
A subject never mentioned is the sensor which is designed to work at optimum ... Sensors create more image noise above its operating temperature parameters...True cinema cameras have temperature control of their sensors ...heating in cold cooling if hot..40 centigrade is I understand optimum sensor temperature
did you change your name on here? Also is that an MXL990? I still got my gh4, one day someone might push me to a new fancy, gh5. lol. Wish BMD would have a mft camera with an ND filter. That'd be nice. JVC did it.
IMO, the g9ii is meant to be a hybrid cam built minimally and shooting on native m43 glass. In that case it’s been dope for me. Where as the gh6 is definitely a video camera that can be built out and when adding a MB XL is 1.2x to full frame. In that case it leans more towards “cinema cam” If I was shooting when the gh6 and g9ii outdoors, the gh6 would be on sticks because I know it won’t over heat and the g9ii would be my handheld cam so I monitor it. Simple. I’m tempted to sell my gh6 and get another s1h but I can add an olpf to my gh6 and basically have a mini s1h that shoots 4k 120p and has 4 Chan audio. So yeah what would you do?
What does the G9II user manual say about recording in 6K, open gate, heat, and generally the camera's heat management? Any warnings or cautions in the manual?
You've kind of answered your own issue in the first few minutes. Its not designed to operate in the you want it too. I.e it sounds like not the right tool for the job you want to use it for. filming in hot conditions pushing it with lots of external things connected to it etc. Expecting it to be everything you want it to be when you know the GH6 or S5II would be your best bet, seems odd premise for a video. As someone put it below, here is to hoping for the GH7 which (if you are sticking with MFT) should hopefully fulfil your filming requirements ;-)
Well the whole southern hemisphere has the height of their summer in January so they will have experience with possible overheating, this isn't an issue in the UK (LoL) but I used my g9ii in Spain and it was 26°C in February so not Arizona or Saudi hot it didn't have any issues at that temperature I also used it in August in Germany and it was 33°C and also no issues but I wouldn't be happy if it had stopped working while shooting video, perhaps this is mostly only a problem in prolonged direct sunlight which I avoid anyway at those temperatures, my tuppence worth
Depending on your definition, it’s hard to be precise with that answer. I was not recording “continuous” (rolling for 1+ hour) but I was shooting clip after clip after clip so pretty heavy and consistent recording.
There are some RUclipsrs in Australia. They found the same. The G9-II can overheat especially in the more demanding video modes and in direct sunlight. It also seems to get very hot so if it reaches the critical point, you probably don't want to use it handhold. In the past, Panasonic was very strict with the limits and preferred to have a record limit of 30min and even less but a guarantee that this will work within the temperature range like -10 to 40°C. Now everybody is happy that they let it run until it overheats. You can try but you don't get a reliable specification. This was communicated by Panasonic and they always said the GH6 isn't obsolete because exactly for this kind of professional work. If you need to run it reliable over the whole day under all kinds of hard conditions, you need a camera that is build for this.
What is their channel? I’d love to check it out. Unfortunately I didn’t see manny RUclipsrs or reviewers mention this limitation so I was a little surprised when it hit. I could understand a blazing summer day in Arizona of 110F being a little tough but 84F? Harder to swallow.
This reminds me of I think Gerald Undones video on overheating and just how inconsistent thermal management on any cameras are. I’m sure people have shot this at 100 degrees and no problems and the other shoot at like 80 in direct sun.
@@_tographer So far the way I shoot I have had no issues with overheating. I use 4k 24p all of the time. 30 minutes at 5.7 open gate in the sun might be a little much without a fan. I never had a fan on a camera until I had the GH6, and they way I shoot it never came on. So far after selling the GH6, it don't regret not having a fan. Hopefully they can do some firmware for people who do long takes, full blast, in the sun.
I need to do more testing with the 4k24 and 4k60 modes. I know I was “maxing” out the camera, but I’m glad to know that the fan on the GH6 does actually make a difference. If 4k24 is reliable without overheating, perhaps I can enjoy the G9II for what it is.
I have two GH5’s, and one GH5 Mk2. These have never over heated and they have run up to 5 hours continuously at 4K 30fps both to Ninja’s and internally as H264, albeit indoors. I don’t expect the G9 II to overheat in the same conditions. I also have a GH6 which records 4K to my Ninja and 5.7K 30fps ProRes internally, of course there is no danger of over heating because of the fan but I have never even heard the fan turn on.
6k open gate is pretty taxing. I rarely shoot Outdoor for longer periods of time so no problem for me. My gh5 does 5. Something k as well and i never overheated on me. It would have been helpful if you told us how long you have been filming and if the camera was in direct sunlight when you did not film. Looks a bit like a user error to me.
I was filming for 2-3 hours outside in direct sun with an ambient temp of 84F. I thought I said as much but sorry if it was unclear. Not sure how it was “user error” unless I put the camera in an oven.
@@_tographer well i would call 2-3 hour film takes at 6k an extreme use case scenario. we shot a german tv production and we never ever had takes this long and it was shot at ibiza in summer. for super long takes i would either use a camera build for this or switch cameras after 1 hour or something as i take 2 cameras with me always. i bet 99 percent of all g9 users will never ever film 3 hours 6kvideo at once. gh6 seems to be perfect for this. to say g9 can not be recommend because it may overheat after 2 or 3 hours is a bit much ...
I didn’t say they were 2-3 hour long takes. I was not recording continuous for the entire time. It was start/stop clip after clip after clip for a period of 2-3 hours. I don’t think that’s extreme at all. Recording in 1-2 minute intervals over a few hours is a totally normal shoot.
@@_tographer hm... I haven't used mine for longer time period (will be a prod shooting on this Friday). I hope this can be solved somehow with firmware if this is really an issue
Nah man I gotta disagree. It’s a photo focused camera, there’s a lot of photographers don’t want the fans as they pose a potential risk in its weather sealing and construction. It’s better the camera can offer features above its weight class so it can be used as a b cam or a c cam or back up camera than it simply being unable to. If the heat is such an issue and you think the camera shouldn’t offer features above and beyond the camera is designed for then just limit it yourself… shoot in the lower video specs that you think it should be limited to. They’re tools designed for specific jobs. It fills its job and more and as a result it pushes its thermal capacity. Get the tool that works for your use cases, it was fairly obvious the thermal capacity of the camera was being pushed due to the lack of a fan.
Bro, this was the only reason I bought the S5 II for Events. I wasn’t sure but the risk had me on pause. That was my same thoughts when I was weighing LUMIX vs Sony… I can’t afford to miss footage from overheating.
I appreciate your straight-talk opinions of the G9II. I’m on the fence and also use a GH6, but after watching this I’ve decided to wait. Panasonic, if they are listening (and they should - for their own survival) needs to release the GH6 with PDAF (a GH7). I think loyal Panasonic users are wishing for it now that reliable PDAF is a Panasonic feature. Thanks for putting this up.
@@_tographer it does make quite a big difference, and it does work, it's like 2.5x the runtime. However I wouldn't go as far as to say it is better than internal fans, but for g9 ii it should solve all overheating issues, even at very hot weathers it should give u time until atleast 1.5 batteries run out
@@_tographer i think so too, try it. Also i'd say giving the option of open gate whether or not it overheats after some time was a good choice. Atleast you have the option when u must need it. And even without the fan it's not that bad. But definitely one must weigh what they require and how much of it depending upon their own needs, subjective matter. I'd still highly recommend the g9 ii but I wouldn't say it's the end all be all camera anyways.
I have two GH6 and one G9ii. I wish Panasonic does not desert the GH6 and come with a firmware update that will improve autofocus. The G9ii is my everyday walk around camera, but the GH6's are my work horse
Thanks lot for sharing your experience. I still have my G85 and the GX8 and of course I'm unhappy with the auto focus while shooting hand camera video, so I've been having the G9II on my wish list since it was announced. But it's a lot of money for me, too, so I decided to wait about a year until some user report come out. Let's see what other people say about the overheating during summer time.
Thank you for understanding why I made this video. I want people to understand the true limitations and realistic issues that can occur. If more RUclipsrs and reviewers had made this point, I probably would have been more hesitant with my purchase.
I appreciate your update and I understand your frustration. I agree with you 100% that if it didnt work in certain conditions/temperatures then that should have been made clear in the marketing and should have come with a warning. I disagree with you in certain respects though. I dont agree that they shouldn't add these excellent video features just because in certain extreme conditions they will cause it to fail. As long as the warning is clear that gives me the benefit of having them but not relying on them in all conditions. If I need them in all situations and need to rely on them then I should choose the GH6. The G9ii is not an upgrade on the GH6. It isnt a GH6 ii or a GH7. It sounds as if what you were hoping for was the updated GH6. There is a reason there is a fan on the GH6. I don't want a fan on my G9 and am glad one wasnt included on yhe G9ii. Im sorry it has not met your expectations and again I agree any limitations should have been made clear by Panasonic. I'm sure the upgraded GH6 will appear with the better autofocus in due course. Just came across your channel recently and enjoyed your videos and found them informative. Thanks. 🙂
I could say many things here but refrain. THIS IS A PHOTO CAMERA, it marketed as a PHOTO CAMERA! The AMAZING VIDEO ABILITIES are a GIFT! I have used mine extensively inside and out without ISSUES in +84 degrees. I never leave to camera exposed to direct sunlight because most know better when RECORDING 6K for up to 30 mins. If I'm going to record an event, then I would only record in 4K. This isn't the camera for you because you don't know how to use it. Maybe you did this for post for clickbait, but if you're client needs 6k or more for an event shoot, that's NOT what this camera is for, spend the cash and buy a GH7 or S5IIx
Geeky nerdy techy made a video about overheating of the G9II in the Australian summer. Seems like it is significantly affected by direct sunlight due to the black metal. It apparently overheated at 30°C (~86°F) when in direct sunlight but didn't overheat in when in the shade at 40°C (~104°F).
Fortunately I didn't upgrade my GH5 yet. My camera never overheated on me after 7 years using it at any weather condition! An upgrade will be worth it for me when it has a better autofocus system in the m43 line and that I don't have to worry about overheating especially over the summer. So glad that I didn't upgrade yet. Thanks for the video!
Same, GH5 never gave me any issues. That camera is a monster.
I will not EVER buy ANY camera again if it is not actively cooled. In 2024, no fan, no buy. I kept my GH6 only because the G9-II had no fan. I'll wait for the GH7.
Panasonic has never claimed, that the G9 II can works forever without overheating in any condition. On the contrary. I would allways prefere to have the features and know that in certain circumstanses, there will be a limit. If a function is critical then by the tool that Panasonic claims can do the job.
And this is the reply I knew was coming, thanks for enabling more of these marketing shenanigans.
@@_tographer I'm not sure I agree, or perhaps misunderstand your point. As you have mentioned, many times, the G9ii is a stills camera, that's how it has been marketed from day one, as far as I know. That's WHY there's no fan, because stills shooter don't want the extra holes in the body. The fact that it can, in theory, also shoot all these video modes is cool, but I wouldn't expect it to perform as well as the GH6. I feel like, and I could be misreading the room, that a lot of video people WANT to love the G9ii and take advantage of its features, and are then disappointed that it is, in fact, still a photo camera and not a video camera.
Edited to add: thoughts on the later parts of the video. I think it IS acceptable for a photo camera to overheat in some conditions when shooting high-end video. I wouldn't buy a camera with a fan. Perhaps they should just leave out the video features(as you point out), that wouldn't bother me. I think the issue is that we, the public, are demanding all things in one camera, and I don't think that really works. One thing that Olympus/OM System has done is, to be honest, had mid-tier video in their cameras. No one is getting an OM-1 as their video camera, and that's the way they like it. Perhaps Lumix needs to just strip back the G9ii features, but I think we'd have a riot on our hands if they did. Look at the shit Canon has taken for limiting their cameras to protect their pro video line. Then they put out the R5 and it overheats, so... /shrug
The general online zeitgeist hype around the G9II has been “it’s a GH6 with phase detect!” Or “the BEST micro43 camera ever” - I have seen very little discussion or acknowledgment of overheating except for a random comment here or there and even then, it’s been a “maybe it could possibly overheat” This camera has only been around since November so I don’t blame people for not knowing the full limitations but that’s why I made this video - to acknowledge, what I feel like, is a very serious concern for many shooters. Reliability is one of the biggest unspoken features any product should have. It’s not fair to customers to say a camera can do X Y and Z and then leave the limitations ambiguous, vague, and undetermined.
Saying “it’s a stills camera!” isn’t an excuse when the marketing will tout all the video features and capabilities. Everyone wants to celebrate and cheer when these cameras get all these amazing specs but the moment you criticize the problems with those specs, they retreat to “well it’s just for photos” or “go buy a real video camera instead.” It’s a genius way to sell a product and then hedge it from any criticism.
@@_tographer I don't disagree with your frustration, and I 100% agree that people should know if a camera is overheating under x conditions. I guess my counter point is that, at least from what I've seen, all of the 'GH6+PDAF' has been from RUclipsrs, not from Lumix. In fact, I've watched videos of people pointing out that the G9ii is a great video camera and questioning why it wasn't marketed as such. I'm looking at the page on the Panasonic site right now, and there are only a couple mentions of video features, the rest is about the fast AF, the preburst modes, the ergonomics, IBIS, and so on. I just haven't seen Lumix say it's a video workhorse, but if I've missed it let me know.
I feel like this compromise of high-end video that might cook the camera is about the best version we're likely to get. If you remove features, people complain or just go with a system that doesn't. If you limit record times, it's annoying in controlled environments where there wasn't going to be a thermal issue, and it doesn't really help in hot environments where there is. Sometimes I feel like shooting some slow motion or high res video, but I'm unlikely to ever shoot enough to have heat issues(I did once on my R5 shooting slow-mo of fireworks in the summer heat). I either have to lose that ability entirely, buy two cameras, or compromise weather sealing by have vents. I suppose the best solution would be to have clearer warnings/caveats from Lumix(Canon, etc.) on the sort of conditions that might cause thermal issues.
@@_tographer weird, I replied and then thought of something else, and... it's not here. Long story short:
If I was a video person, I would DEFINITELY want to know about the heat issues you're seeing, so thank you for putting it out there. What I haven't seen is Lumix, as a company/brand, marketing the G9ii as a video camera in the way that Canon touted the R5 and its 8k ability. Canon should have received every ounce of backlash for that marketing BS, but I don't see Lumix doing that same thing. That, I guess, it why I don't see this as such a huge betrayal.
I have overheated my G9ii multiple times in FHD (the easiest possible setting). Exactly how you said. I have done it at 90 degrees F, at 30 minutes. It was in the shade, but outdoors it was 90 degrees.
Great breakdown. My gh5ii is soo good, I can't think of a surefire upgrade in the Lumix lineup. Its that good and such a joy to use. I've rented the G6, S5ii & am using the G9ii right now btw.
Let's face it, we are all waiting for the GH7.
How do you feel about using the Tilta cooling fan? It would be great if someone did a proper review of this fan.
I second this
Is there more than one? I only see one for the Sony ZV-E1
@@_tographer check out the ulanzi cooling fan! second version.
A subject never mentioned is the sensor which is designed to work at optimum ... Sensors create more image noise above its operating temperature parameters...True cinema cameras have temperature control of their sensors ...heating in cold cooling if hot..40 centigrade is I understand optimum sensor temperature
did you change your name on here? Also is that an MXL990? I still got my gh4, one day someone might push me to a new fancy, gh5. lol. Wish BMD would have a mft camera with an ND filter. That'd be nice. JVC did it.
IMO, the g9ii is meant to be a hybrid cam built minimally and shooting on native m43 glass. In that case it’s been dope for me. Where as the gh6 is definitely a video camera that can be built out and when adding a MB XL is 1.2x to full frame. In that case it leans more towards “cinema cam”
If I was shooting when the gh6 and g9ii outdoors, the gh6 would be on sticks because I know it won’t over heat and the g9ii would be my handheld cam so I monitor it. Simple. I’m tempted to sell my gh6 and get another s1h but I can add an olpf to my gh6 and basically have a mini s1h that shoots 4k 120p and has 4 Chan audio. So yeah what would you do?
As someone who owns the g9 i was also really let down thay they made it larger, full frame size basically with no fan.
What does the G9II user manual say about recording in 6K, open gate, heat, and generally the camera's heat management? Any warnings or cautions in the manual?
I can check
You've kind of answered your own issue in the first few minutes. Its not designed to operate in the you want it too. I.e it sounds like not the right tool for the job you want to use it for. filming in hot conditions pushing it with lots of external things connected to it etc. Expecting it to be everything you want it to be when you know the GH6 or S5II would be your best bet, seems odd premise for a video.
As someone put it below, here is to hoping for the GH7 which (if you are sticking with MFT) should hopefully fulfil your filming requirements ;-)
Well the whole southern hemisphere has the height of their summer in January so they will have experience with possible overheating, this isn't an issue in the UK (LoL) but I used my g9ii in Spain and it was 26°C in February so not Arizona or Saudi hot it didn't have any issues at that temperature I also used it in August in Germany and it was 33°C and also no issues but I wouldn't be happy if it had stopped working while shooting video, perhaps this is mostly only a problem in prolonged direct sunlight which I avoid anyway at those temperatures, my tuppence worth
Was this from continuous recording? Or just having it out in the sun?
Depending on your definition, it’s hard to be precise with that answer. I was not recording “continuous” (rolling for 1+ hour) but I was shooting clip after clip after clip so pretty heavy and consistent recording.
There are some RUclipsrs in Australia. They found the same. The G9-II can overheat especially in the more demanding video modes and in direct sunlight. It also seems to get very hot so if it reaches the critical point, you probably don't want to use it handhold.
In the past, Panasonic was very strict with the limits and preferred to have a record limit of 30min and even less but a guarantee that this will work within the temperature range like -10 to 40°C. Now everybody is happy that they let it run until it overheats. You can try but you don't get a reliable specification. This was communicated by Panasonic and they always said the GH6 isn't obsolete because exactly for this kind of professional work. If you need to run it reliable over the whole day under all kinds of hard conditions, you need a camera that is build for this.
What is their channel? I’d love to check it out. Unfortunately I didn’t see manny RUclipsrs or reviewers mention this limitation so I was a little surprised when it hit. I could understand a blazing summer day in Arizona of 110F being a little tough but 84F? Harder to swallow.
@@_tographer probably GeekyNerdyTechy is the Australian channel
This reminds me of I think Gerald Undones video on overheating and just how inconsistent thermal management on any cameras are.
I’m sure people have shot this at 100 degrees and no problems and the other shoot at like 80 in direct sun.
The G9II is a great video. Try setting the thermal management to high. What did people do before fans?
It was set to high
@@_tographer So far the way I shoot I have had no issues with overheating. I use 4k 24p all of the time. 30 minutes at 5.7 open gate in the sun might be a little much without a fan. I never had a fan on a camera until I had the GH6, and they way I shoot it never came on. So far after selling the GH6, it don't regret not having a fan. Hopefully they can do some firmware for people who do long takes, full blast, in the sun.
I need to do more testing with the 4k24 and 4k60 modes. I know I was “maxing” out the camera, but I’m glad to know that the fan on the GH6 does actually make a difference. If 4k24 is reliable without overheating, perhaps I can enjoy the G9II for what it is.
I have two GH5’s, and one GH5 Mk2. These have never over heated and they have run up to 5 hours continuously at 4K 30fps both to Ninja’s and internally as H264, albeit indoors. I don’t expect the G9 II to overheat in the same conditions. I also have a GH6 which records 4K to my Ninja and 5.7K 30fps ProRes internally, of course there is no danger of over heating because of the fan but I have never even heard the fan turn on.
6k open gate is pretty taxing. I rarely shoot Outdoor for longer periods of time so no problem for me. My gh5 does 5. Something k as well and i never overheated on me. It would have been helpful if you told us how long you have been filming and if the camera was in direct sunlight when you did not film. Looks a bit like a user error to me.
I was filming for 2-3 hours outside in direct sun with an ambient temp of 84F. I thought I said as much but sorry if it was unclear. Not sure how it was “user error” unless I put the camera in an oven.
@@_tographer well i would call 2-3 hour film takes at 6k an extreme use case scenario. we shot a german tv production and we never ever had takes this long and it was shot at ibiza in summer. for super long takes i would either use a camera build for this or switch cameras after 1 hour or something as i take 2 cameras with me always. i bet 99 percent of all g9 users will never ever film 3 hours 6kvideo at once. gh6 seems to be perfect for this. to say g9 can not be recommend because it may overheat after 2 or 3 hours is a bit much ...
I didn’t say they were 2-3 hour long takes. I was not recording continuous for the entire time. It was start/stop clip after clip after clip for a period of 2-3 hours. I don’t think that’s extreme at all. Recording in 1-2 minute intervals over a few hours is a totally normal shoot.
Thanks for the update. Good to know about the overheating.
what was your thermal management setting? was it High or Normal?
High of course
@@_tographer hm... I haven't used mine for longer time period (will be a prod shooting on this Friday). I hope this can be solved somehow with firmware if this is really an issue
Nah man I gotta disagree. It’s a photo focused camera, there’s a lot of photographers don’t want the fans as they pose a potential risk in its weather sealing and construction. It’s better the camera can offer features above its weight class so it can be used as a b cam or a c cam or back up camera than it simply being unable to. If the heat is such an issue and you think the camera shouldn’t offer features above and beyond the camera is designed for then just limit it yourself… shoot in the lower video specs that you think it should be limited to.
They’re tools designed for specific jobs. It fills its job and more and as a result it pushes its thermal capacity. Get the tool that works for your use cases, it was fairly obvious the thermal capacity of the camera was being pushed due to the lack of a fan.
Bro, this was the only reason I bought the S5 II for Events. I wasn’t sure but the risk had me on pause. That was my same thoughts when I was weighing LUMIX vs Sony… I can’t afford to miss footage from overheating.
I appreciate your straight-talk opinions of the G9II. I’m on the fence and also use a GH6, but after watching this I’ve decided to wait. Panasonic, if they are listening (and they should - for their own survival) needs to release the GH6 with PDAF (a GH7). I think loyal Panasonic users are wishing for it now that reliable PDAF is a Panasonic feature. Thanks for putting this up.
get the ulanzi fan, easy to attach, sony users are using it in plenty cameras because they overheat way too much.
Does it actually make a difference and work?
@@_tographer it does make quite a big difference, and it does work, it's like 2.5x the runtime. However I wouldn't go as far as to say it is better than internal fans, but for g9 ii it should solve all overheating issues, even at very hot weathers it should give u time until atleast 1.5 batteries run out
It’s cheap enough, worth a shot
@@_tographer i think so too, try it. Also i'd say giving the option of open gate whether or not it overheats after some time was a good choice. Atleast you have the option when u must need it. And even without the fan it's not that bad. But definitely one must weigh what they require and how much of it depending upon their own needs, subjective matter. I'd still highly recommend the g9 ii but I wouldn't say it's the end all be all camera anyways.
I have two GH6 and one G9ii. I wish Panasonic does not desert the GH6 and come with a firmware update that will improve autofocus. The G9ii is my everyday walk around camera, but the GH6's are my work horse
Thanks lot for sharing your experience. I still have my G85 and the GX8 and of course I'm unhappy with the auto focus while shooting hand camera video, so I've been having the G9II on my wish list since it was announced. But it's a lot of money for me, too, so I decided to wait about a year until some user report come out. Let's see what other people say about the overheating during summer time.
Thank you for understanding why I made this video. I want people to understand the true limitations and realistic issues that can occur. If more RUclipsrs and reviewers had made this point, I probably would have been more hesitant with my purchase.
I appreciate your update and I understand your frustration. I agree with you 100% that if it didnt work in certain conditions/temperatures then that should have been made clear in the marketing and should have come with a warning.
I disagree with you in certain respects though. I dont agree that they shouldn't add these excellent video features just because in certain extreme conditions they will cause it to fail. As long as the warning is clear that gives me the benefit of having them but not relying on them in all conditions. If I need them in all situations and need to rely on them then I should choose the GH6. The G9ii is not an upgrade on the GH6. It isnt a GH6 ii or a GH7. It sounds as if what you were hoping for was the updated GH6. There is a reason there is a fan on the GH6. I don't want a fan on my G9 and am glad one wasnt included on yhe G9ii. Im sorry it has not met your expectations and again I agree any limitations should have been made clear by Panasonic. I'm sure the upgraded GH6 will appear with the better autofocus in due course.
Just came across your channel recently and enjoyed your videos and found them informative. Thanks. 🙂
I could say many things here but refrain. THIS IS A PHOTO CAMERA, it marketed as a PHOTO CAMERA! The AMAZING VIDEO ABILITIES are a GIFT! I have used mine extensively inside and out without ISSUES in +84 degrees. I never leave to camera exposed to direct sunlight because most know better when RECORDING 6K for up to 30 mins. If I'm going to record an event, then I would only record in 4K. This isn't the camera for you because you don't know how to use it. Maybe you did this for post for clickbait, but if you're client needs 6k or more for an event shoot, that's NOT what this camera is for, spend the cash and buy a GH7 or S5IIx