Thanks for making and sharing, it’s as ever a delight to see a new upload from you. :) Maybe I missed it, but what happened to the original Bayard and Vesuvio?
@@foowashere Records for Italy's southern railways are not great. In fact far from it. There's a reference to Bayard still being in existance in 1887 but no idea if that's true or not.
The image at 0:49 has me thinking - maybe this is a dumb question but a lot of illustrations of early railways show the rails without any visible supports (sleepers, stone chairs, etc) so it looks like the track is set into the ground, even outside of stations/cities (a lot of the L&M art I've seen does this, for example). Would it actually have looked like this in the 1830s or were sleepers etc too complicated/not interesting enough to be worth drawing at the time?
Yes it would. The ballast was carried on over the top of the stone sleepers and the chairs, so all that was visible was the running rails. It was thought at the time that the track had to be absolutely rigid, with no elasticity. That was wrong, of course. And ballasting rails in such a way meant that the chairs and rails went rusty very very quickly. Plus it was a lot of work to replace a broken rail, or see if a chair or sleeper was broken!
Though a Mancunian my girlfriend is from Portici and so I have visited many times over the past ten years. I know the line and local area well. The promenade between Pietrarsa and Granatello should open soon which should increase the visitors to the museum.
Another informative video, thanks. Wouldn't It be good to have this at Darlington in 2025 (with Rocket, Planet, John Bull, Adler, ...). Or perhaps Manchester 2029. Or perhaps I could go to Naples.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Sigh... can't complain: I never get my finger out and organise (or pay for) anything. I still wonder how I managed to miss RoS although I have good memories of InterRailing days- 150 Jahre Deutsche Eisenbahnen in Nuernburg 1985, Parade der Bahn at Strasshof in 1987 Treinen door de tijd in Utrecht 1989. That sort of thing has gone for good (I was too young for the 1975 parade) but it'll be really worth making an effort to get to the NE for whatever Locomotion et al manage to put on.
Another nice and interesting story as we all love them, even though a few minutes more wouldn’t hurt. Thanks Anthony.
Beautiful replica, Anthony. Glad to know it and its complement of replica carriages are on display.
Walking round bedlington it’s hard to imagine this was built there
Thanks. Fascinating as always!
My absolute pleasure!
Short and sweet! Very nice.
That is a beutiful locomotive, I wish I could see that running through the Italian countryside.
Thanks for making and sharing, it’s as ever a delight to see a new upload from you. :)
Maybe I missed it, but what happened to the original Bayard and Vesuvio?
No idea I'm afraid.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Oh well, maybe the comment section will have the answer-railway enthusiasts know no borders!
@@foowashere Records for Italy's southern railways are not great. In fact far from it. There's a reference to Bayard still being in existance in 1887 but no idea if that's true or not.
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The image at 0:49 has me thinking - maybe this is a dumb question but a lot of illustrations of early railways show the rails without any visible supports (sleepers, stone chairs, etc) so it looks like the track is set into the ground, even outside of stations/cities (a lot of the L&M art I've seen does this, for example). Would it actually have looked like this in the 1830s or were sleepers etc too complicated/not interesting enough to be worth drawing at the time?
Yes it would. The ballast was carried on over the top of the stone sleepers and the chairs, so all that was visible was the running rails. It was thought at the time that the track had to be absolutely rigid, with no elasticity. That was wrong, of course. And ballasting rails in such a way meant that the chairs and rails went rusty very very quickly. Plus it was a lot of work to replace a broken rail, or see if a chair or sleeper was broken!
That's a pretty cool steam locomotive. Don't know much much about Italian locomotives but I don't want to seem pretty cool.
Though a Mancunian my girlfriend is from Portici and so I have visited many times over the past ten years. I know the line and local area well. The promenade between Pietrarsa and Granatello should open soon which should increase the visitors to the museum.
If Bayard and Vesuvio were the same design the only issue would be finding out what nameplates looked like, correct?
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
The illustration features carriages with what looks like three stagecoaches mounted parallel. That must have been uncomfortable!
Another informative video, thanks. Wouldn't It be good to have this at Darlington in 2025 (with Rocket, Planet, John Bull, Adler, ...). Or perhaps Manchester 2029.
Or perhaps I could go to Naples.
They tried to get Adler over for 'Riot of Steam' at S&IM but it was prohibitvely expensive :(
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Sigh... can't complain: I never get my finger out and organise (or pay for) anything. I still wonder how I managed to miss RoS although I have good memories of InterRailing days- 150 Jahre Deutsche Eisenbahnen in Nuernburg 1985, Parade der Bahn at Strasshof in 1987 Treinen door de tijd in Utrecht 1989.
That sort of thing has gone for good (I was too young for the 1975 parade) but it'll be really worth making an effort to get to the NE for whatever Locomotion et al manage to put on.
What other engines do you have in mind to do next on rail story?
I've run out of superlatives for you videos. 😁
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