Teachers Will Soon Be Allowed To Carry Guns In Schools In This State
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee said he will a sign a bill allowing school staff to carry guns into schools. Jordan Uhl, John Iadarola and Francesca Fiorentini discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: tyt.com/team
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"Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee said Thursday that he planned to sign a bill state legislators sent to his desk this week that would allow school staff members to carry concealed handguns on school grounds.
"What’s important to me is that we give districts tools and the option to use a tool that will keep their children safe in their schools," Lee said at a news conference Thursday after he shared his plans to sign the legislation."
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First abortion now this. Do conservatives EVER listen to voters? Time to flee Tennessee.
Will the cops know not to take out a teacher trying to protect students when they find an adult with a gun in their hand?
oh gawd. never even thought of that.
The teachers will be fine, as long as they're not black.
Didn't think about that
Not if the teachers hold up in the class rooms between the door and the students and do not leave the class room making sure that nobody breaches the classroom door.
I think it will be pretty for the police to know who is who.
The teachers will be the the ones inside the class rooms behind a locked door not running around looking for somebody to shoot
Plus most school shooters use some kind of rifle. AK, AR15, SKS....ECT and since the teachers have to keep their guns concealed that means the person moving around school grounds with a rifle. Will be the one doing the shooting.
And even in school shootings when the police make contact they always say,
"Drop the weapon!"
"Get on the ground!"
Or something to that effect.
The bad guy will turn the gunon the police or continue shooting ppl that's going to be the guy. And nobody else should be pulling the trigger. Unless confronted by the shooter.
Before I went to prison I lawfully carried a 380 on me everywhere. I went for years and I never found a reason to pull it on some one.
One time I was even attacked by somebody. And never pulled it out. And I've never met a lawful gun owner who has actually had to pull their gun let alone fire it.
So follow the sound of gun shots and they will lead you to the shooter and only the shooter.
Lawful gun owners don't act the way you think they do lawful gun owners don't start shooting ppl every time they get upset or or go out looking for a reason to use it and most gun owners understand that every bullet that leaves the chamber could potentially escalate it to a life or death situation which nobody wants to do.
HB1202
That's the bill it's 5 pages long read it before you talk about it.
Wait, they want to put lethal weapons into the hands of people they call groomers 24/7???
Again a bunch of shallow, 1 step only , 2 dimensional thinking Albert Einstiens in these comments.
(Except the brave ppl who speak up and say stupid shit thank you for your transparency) but we all know that the ppl who think it's ok to indoctrinate other ppl's children with gender ideology. Are not going to be the ones exercising there second amendment.
That's why Republicans are not worrying too much about that
Most states allow teachers to carry guns already.
Not a big deal!
I didn't know that. I looked it up and you're 100% right. 32 states allow this usually with approval. I'm surprised.
how many teachers with guns are going to get gunned down by cops because of this
There is already a teacher shortage. I'm sure that if this actually gets passed, families and teachers are moving out of state.
This is beyond stupid. Teachers don't need to have guns in schools. Teachers need to educate students. They're not trained police officers! Pass gun laws! You have trained police officers who can't get some shootings right. What do you think teachers will do???
The teachers have the ability to fight back for themselves and the rest of the school.
With out a gun the teachers and the students are sitting ducks for a shooter, is the school that a mass murder wont bother targeting. Mass shooters target places that have lots of unarmed pplut a school who has armed facility
@jasonhaines5982 This is ridiculous. The trained police officers in Uvalde, TX, didn't go in to stop that one shooter from killing all of those children. You really believe a teacher would have stopped the shooter? That's absolutely ludicrous. Teachers need to teach and leave the law enforcement to the trained professionals. Teachers aren't police .
@@philb.1502 so the only ppl who have the right to protect themselves and the ppl around them are police officers who won't do it?
So what do you suggest? Hope the gun jams,? Hope he runs out of ammo before he gets to you?
School is me t for learning teachers are ment to teach. Cool and shooting ranges are ment for shooting, killing ppl with a weapon of war should be left to war zones and guns are suppose to not be on school grounds.
I think your mixing up what is going on.
The school isn't adding "armed security" on to the teachers job description. Nobody is forcing any teacher to carry a gun and am disarm bad guys if they show up.
But if the teacher is put into a situation the teacher will be allowed the proper tools needed to defend their own life and the lives arounf them..
Since when is being unarmed and completely at the mercy of a madman with a gun at a school better than being armed. And given the ability to fight for your life Instead of putting your safety (only) in the hands of ppl who are miles away and more concerned about them making it dmhine to your family than their concern for you making it home is.
When your in a life or death situation most ppl, (including school teachers would like to have as many option to not die as possible.
If I was a teacher caught in a school with a shooter and the cops were not nearby to rely on. And I knew every minute that passes idms another child getting killed.
I would be breaking all kinds of laws and teacher protocols if it ment that there was even a slim chance of making it out alive and saving even one child.
And what do you think is going to happen in TN now that teachers have the right to conceal carry in the classroom in. The chance that a school falls victim to a psycho with a gun?
I don't understand how your irrational fear of gunss should impede on my constitutional right to self defense..
I'm not reained in muy tai or kick boxing should I also not be allowed to fight back if I'm attacked?
Im not a marathon runner either so should it be against the law for me to run away from a feral dog?
I'm not an Olympic swimmer or a. trained life guard so should It I not be allowed to swim out to attempt to rescue somebody who is drowning?
@jasonhaines5982 Every police union and agency is against this stupid idea. Teachers are supposed to teach the classes. They're not trained or qualified to handle shooters with assault rifles. You need trained and professional law enforcement to deal with active shooters. The moment a teacher gets nervous and shoots an innocent child, all hell will break loose. You try telling those parents that the teacher made a mistake.
@@philb.1502 if you think a teacher is capable of using deadlh force on a child due to uncontrollable emotions causing them to act on impulse. Resulting in murdering a child. Then the issue isn't the gun.
And what causes you to think that's what will end up happening?
How many times (while at dinner eating) has a child been out of line and because there was a steak knife on the table right there on the table yiu impulsively began stabbng the child?
I'm going to assume Never and that's because your not murderer or a child abuser and ppl who are that sick in the head don't choose teaching as their career path choice in life.
Murder and violence is not a side effect that comes along with owning a gun.
Bruh in this country we can barely get the people who suppose to have the most training with firearms to use them professionally. Cops who's entire job it is to serve and protect and enforce the law, in this high stress job fail miserably on a daily basis at those duties. What will happen when you place weapons in the hands of already high strung teachers, dealing with the most disrespectful little turds. Besides all the obvious things that can go wrong, now teachers who are fighting and putting hands on students, quitting and getting caught in sex scandals will have guns on them? We are living in the Bizarro world for real right now.
^THIS^ ALL OF THIS. SADLY, YOU'RE ENTIRELY CORRECT. 😮
Such a disgusting bill! Thank goodness my district is against it. No unlimited paper,copies, pencils and anything else I actually need to do my job but give me a gun.🤦🤦🤦🤦
It’s part of a larger project to dismantle the public school system. They want to make going to public school an impossible choice for parents, students and teachers, and prop up homeschooling and private schools.
If they can accomplish this they can undermine social cohesion by ensuring students never interact outside of their immediate bubble making the population less tolerant, empathetic and easier to demag…
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
All great until a teacher loses it in class.
Then Republicans will pass a law saying kids should be able to carry guns to school to protect themselves from their teachers. Guaranteed.
They ban books but not guns. Dystopia. It tells you what they are afraid of-knowledge and ideas. Every day I am thankful to live in CA and to teach in CA. I can't imagine trying to worry about a gun while I am teaching 40 students. They want to pay teachers poorly but have them carry guns??
The 3 ps that adults should not be discussing with other ppl's children with out full parental consent is pornography, politics and prayer.
But the only thing you should always offer any child no matter if the parents give permission or not is protection
But it sounds like your advocating for (almost) The exact opposite.
Let's say your a teacher in one of the many gun free school zones
And (god forbid) the worst case scenario takes place while 20 kids (ta full classroom) are under your supervision. And those kids have only you to rely on making sure they get home to see their family again.
What's the next move you can make to ensure the most protection for those students?
And my second question would be
Why can't you be trusted to have a gun around children?
And what happens when a teacher snaps and decides to pull out their gun.
Also what happens if a kid gets hold of the gun.
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
God forbid the teacher that is now armed with a gun shoots a child by accident trying to defend them.
If the teacher stays in front of the children and only shoots when thet have a clean shot that won't happen. On top of that when you hear gun shots close by human instinct tells you to hit the ground. And honestly. If some how that does happen and 1 kid gets shot but the shooter gets hit and disarmed by staff quickly due to returning fire the out come is still better and gives the every teacher a fighting chance rather than waiting until the shooter runs out of bullets or the cops to get there.
When situations like that happen, you are your own first responder.
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
Have they considered telling murderers that murder is bad? Surely that would work
I used to be anti gun and I can even remember in 1987 when Floriday passed it's shall issue ccw law and the left shrieked "There will be blood in the streets". Decades later and now most states have gone beyond shall issue to constitutional carry and it's not an issue in fact there is solid data showing it has reduced crime. Gun violence across the US is going down while gun ownership is going up and gun laws are getting thrown out. Guns aren't the issue, policies that destroy class mobility and force people to be lifelong wage slaves in combination with the caging of children in public education systems are the issues. And yet don't care about fixing these issues because if you did you would be out of a job. You are no different than big pharma. You focus on the symptoms so you can keep raking in the woke mob money. They were right when they yelled blood on your hands but just wrong on whose hands.
What happens when one of the teachers has a bad day? Republicans don't trust teachers to decide which books to use in class but they want the teachers to double as security guards?
We all know that the teacher that is promoting gender ideology is not also going to be the teacher with a conceal weapons permit.
Wait until the first teacher leaves the gun in the bathroom or shoots a kid because they think the kid is armed or feels threatened. Didn't Uvalde teach us that handguns in the hands of many trained officers wasn't enough to address someone with a semiautomatic weapon?
Yes Uvalde taught ppl that when shit pops off even cops will hesitate to long.
That just proves (to most people wiith a fully operating frontal brain lobe.) That sometimes you have to be your own first responder.
Are you saying that if one of those teachers happened to have a gun that day (in TX) that instead of shooting the attacker that they would just start shooting with out considering what was behind the shooter that could also be hit? Or just start wasting bullet's and with sloppy shooting which would immediately bring attention to your position and get you killed almost immediately.?
Do you really think that everybody that has different political views than yours is so mentally vacant that ppl who have been around guns their entire lives havenever thought about that but your such a mental superior compared to them that within a few moments you found a flaw in the plan.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Really?; you mean aiming the gun is important when your firing it?
Give me more of these earth shattering epiphanies!
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And why/how would you "accidently" forget your Glock in. The bathroom and not realize that your holster is about 15 lbs lighter.. WTF was you doing even touching your loaded gun. While in the bathroom.
Taking selfie's with it spinning it around on your finger?
An additional rule that should be implemented into the rules should also be "anyone removing or touching their gun except in the case of an active shooter will be immediately terminated and removed from the property and labeled a possible threat to staff and students).
But a real gun owner would never be sutting there playing with their gun.
Liberals are the only ones that freak out and do dangerous things when you see a gun. (Remember Kyle Rittenhouse? Done BLM rioters seen that he was holding a gun, never pointing it at ppl or or acting irresponsible, and said that because he was just in possession of a fire arm that they felt threatened. By him and three ppl were shot trying to disarm somebody for absolutely no reason.
As long as liberal teachers (for some reason) don't decide to buy a gun and then take it to class. Then none of those things your concerned about will ever happen but a liberal with a gun. would be extremely sketchy and dangerous for anyone around them. Everybody better watch how they move no sudden quick movements. A Liberal with a with a gun is like being around a feral animal.
Liberals are the only ones that makes any situation where a gun is present become become dangerous for absolutely no reason at all.
But again ai liberal with d gun is kind of a contradiction so I don't think that's going to be an issue.
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
So when a kid gets a teacher's gun and uses it, can we blame Bill Lee?
And it will happen, just a matter of when
There is a shooter, teacher doesn't have a gun. Blaming regardless "why didn't you have a gun". It is a lose-lose for teachers. And brushing the blame off themselves - politicians, law enforcement.
Now the kids can just jump the teacher and go to town on other kids with this new law
It's gonna have kids take guns and fight others, even others with guns, turning into a shootout
@@archoolio76 have you ever even heard of a group of unarmed ppl knowingly attack an armed person for no other reason than to strip the gun away from the person. I possession of it?.
how about just increase security so no one with a gun enters a school building
Then would those ppl have guns?
Some where there has to be a good guy with a gun. Because if not good luck on filling that position.
JOB DESCRIPTION:
"NEED UNARMED PERSON/PEOPLE TO STOPARNED PPL FROM BREACHING THE ENTRANCE OF THE SCHOOL."
And if a teacher shoots a gun. And hit somebody that they shouldn't. Who's going to be responsible Who's going to be responsible to school or teacher?
Before we shoot down this idea, let’s hear it out. What kind of loaded Guns will be allowed in the classroom with our children? Do they expect a handgun can stop an assault rifle? We already saw even the finest police won’t face those odds. So I imagine they want military style riffles in all of our classrooms because of course our young children will understand it’s for their own safety and won’t actually touch it. Plus it should help normalize being around these weapons. Also, how much training should these teachers have? Are we proposing that we hire only military veterans as teachers? Or is tactical weapons now a college course? Will they also need to wear body armor; or just have it nearby? I believe we should absolutely consider this option and ask all of these questions just to see how far we can get before they realize just how stupid this idea is.
In recent history, an assault rifle has never been used in a mass shooting. You don't even know what you're talking about...
@@franciscoburgos787 recent history ===== not ancient history like the texas school shooting
I'm already knowing a student will try to get that gun from the teacher
Yup
Right wingers will just say it's a red flag fake news by the left. There's ALWAYS an excuse
You won't even know who is carrying.
@@papawheelie5576 😂 you don't know people obviously
@@papawheelie5576 you think people think like that when they break into houses?
Teachers teach, they don't need guns. Hire security guards instead.
Democrates claimed that having armed security guards at schools for this exact reason was scary and racist (for some reason).
We always end up with police and, well, we see how that works...
Security guards become targets. It's the unknown concealed carry that's the deterrent.
Allowing teachers to carry guns is outrageous. How about increasing school security with webcams, security cams, door dams with locks, and/or panic rooms in the classroom? My grandbaby's school had all of the latest security technology and it worked great.
Man! Demo crates love to spend other ppl's money!
You know what also works? Doesn't cost as much and gives the teachers a little more comfort knowing that in the extremely rare case they get thrown into a situation with a school shootetmr. She was granted the ability to arm herselfand defend the students around her with the only tool that could save her life in a situation as that.
When you say it's outrageous are implying that it will make things worse?
Because (in a sense) I would describe it in the same way.
It's outrageous that in order to ensure that you don't get shiot while at school. Letting teachers conceal carry is one of the only things left that has a good chance of preventing school shootings from becoming just a oart of everyday life
Outrageous!! Tell that to the 30 states who already allow it. 👍
So teachers have to go through more background checks and training. But a red flag law is unconditional.
"Redflag law"
You mean the law where if 2 or more citizens say your a threat to yourself or someone else and have a cess to guns. Then the police can strip you of all your firearms. Fir an undetermined amount of time?
Can your freedom of speech be taken away like that?
Your right to peacefully assemble? Your right to remain silent? Can they your right to a fast and speedy trial? Or any other right without being found guilty of a crime?
If not then yes. Red flag laws are unconstitutional.it puts way too much power in hands of regular citizens to be used against other regular citizens.
Tennessee is America’s Russia.
They're not "putting the responsibility on teachers," they're allowing teachers who have been trained and want to carry a gun to do what they already had the right to do, carry a gun.
This is the dumbest shit ive heard 😂 Merica = trash. Our teacher need guns to keep kids safe, what a ghetto ass country.
@@juanalonso5963u dum
The crazies are the ones who will want to have the guns…VOTE BLUE….
I have a question. Is this public schools only, or will it require private schools to do the same? As far as I understand this only applies to public schools. Public schools are predominantly poor, black, and immigrant. Upper middle class and rich white kids go to private schools were no guns are allowed on campus at all. The republicans have been trying to destroy public education for decades now. This is why they are doing this.
Nobody is requiring anyone to be armed. 🙄
What like school issued Glocks? Lol
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
How do you train a teacher to shoot their own kids?
This will not end well.
This you call democracy, freedom, safety.... bla, bla, bla...😂😂😂
Guns are not tools they are weapons !
Let's just hope that one of those teachers doesn't have a really bad day some time and decide to pull out their gun in a classroom and direct it at a student that might be acting up in class. In my days in grade school I have seen multiple teachers get very physical with students and get into full on fights, so imagine if there was a gun involved.
If you lose your temper with kids, you probably shouldn't be a teacher.
hey mrs. glassbotton, can we see your gun before the class starts. please please.
Im in this state and thankful my kid graduated 3 years ago....
they stole the idea this " brilliant" idea from eric cartman from south park
What could possibly go wrong? 😒
I guess (according to the left) the teacher might go on a shooting spree, or kids are going to be able to disarm a teacher and start unloading.
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@@jasonhaines5982 No I don't think a teacher is going to go on a shooting spree. But if you don't think that many high schoolers are larger and stronger than teachers and in some cases very violent, you have no idea what a school is like.
@@jasonhaines5982 Well, nobody would blink any eye if a teacher shows up with a firearm, I guess (according to the right) that teacher will always be responsible and never "snap" and do something stupid... I'm stunned at how stupid your comment is.
@@SeeMar7616 if it's concealed then how would the students know which teacher to attack in order to take their gun. And why would a kid try over powering the teacher to take their gun to commit a shooting when any other staff could come in the door armed and shit you back.
There's a reason why mass shootings don't happen at gun shows, or shooting ranges.
The same reason gun shops normally don't get robbed.
A large gathering of ppl and only one having a gun it's the equation for a mass shooting.
A large group of ppl who are armed detours a mass shooting from happening.
@@ufutz
Senate bill 1325
House bill 1202
It's 5 pages long.
Read it and get back to me.
This is not Tyt telling you what's in it
That's it
Sounds like a better idea then hiding and hoping you don’t get shot !
Fr. They want students to be sitting ducks.
SMH 😔 this only makes things worse.
Good way to further dismantle public education. which is the point of all of this. Lack of funding, lack of infrastructure, lack of safety, limitations on what can and can’t be taught, fear mongering about teachers, propping up private schools and homeschooling, etc.
... lowering the minimum age at which children may work and lowering the minimum wage for children, banning books, making it more costly to go to college and get a degree in education....
You understand
I'm now dumber having listening to this distain for logic and complete cognitive dissonance. Why is this so controversial? It's as if gun controllers are afraid this might actually work so they can't use these tragedies to push their narratives.
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Exactly 💯
How will the democrates be able to convince American ppl that they need to be disarmed for their own good when they start hearing story's like
" Untrained lone female Teacher uses concealed firearm law to stop school shooter quickly"
And all of a sudden school shootings faze out of existence..
@@jasonhaines5982 Wow, you just can't stop posting incredibly stupid things, can you?
Who is cheering for this? Do those people think teachers want guns in the classroom? Do those people think teachers want that type of responsibility? Why can they do this but not raise wages for teachers???
Do you think every teacher is forced to be armed? 😂😂😂
All teachers get School issued Glocks?
That's funny!
HB1202
THATS THE BILL ITS 5 PAGES, GO READ IT.
What happens when a teacher responds to a shooter but ends up hitting a child? I live in Tennessee and have worked with the Parent Teacher Organization (PTO) trying to come up with money to buy even the most basic school supplies for our children. Meanwhile I have seen this state only making it easier to get and carry guns with/without background checks, concealed or open carry. They need to make it as easy to carry a gun into the State House as it is into a school, then there might be some action.
And that is exactly what will eventually happen. A teacher will shoot an innocent kid, because they're nervous, and then will be exposed to the legal ramifications. It's just a terrible idea. A teacher's job is to teach students, not to act like they're trained law enforcement.
@@philb.1502 I worked in law enforcement for 18 years and have worked some in a school as a teacher. There are few settings worse to have to make life and death calls that you know will be second guessed by everyone, but if I accidentally hit a child, I know I would be crushed psychologically even without the rest of the community blaming me.
@fredbrewer796 Exactly. Even the best trained police officers and detectives can make mistakes. A teacher with no training in a school with kids is a disaster waiting to happen. Teachers should teach and leave the law enforcement to the professionals.
@@fredbrewer796 one of the few things that are worse though is throwing your body over students as. A last ditch effort to protect as many as you can, but knowing the the entire time that it's useless because nobody has any way to stop them. Because he school thought you might be the dangerous one.
@@philb.1502Training is required per this bill. Read more and post less.
John made two incredible points. 1.) it puts mass events on the teachers list of responsibilities 2.) we will be blamed if we can’t stop an event, as scapegoats 😢
There are now 30 States that allows teachers and other school staff to carry a gun during class; please list all the incidents some teacher acted inappropriate with a firearm.
First thing about this Tennessee law; no teacher is "Required" to carry a gun. Only the Teachers who Volunteers may carry, after an extensive background check, psychological evaluation, 40hrs of training and then permission from the Superintendent and Chief Law Enforcement Officer for the county.
New Hampshire is the only State that places no restrictions on teachers or school staff to carry a gun at school. If a teacher, lunch lady or even the janitor wishes to carry a gun on campus during school hours, they don't have to get permission to carry a gun. How many shootings have happened at a school in New Hampshire? ZERO!
A resident of Tennessee I don't know any gun owner here that is actually in favor of this. It's insane that in this state Teaching requirements now essentially require being a cop.
As a resident of Tennessee, who is a former College Professor, and an Enhanced Concealed Carry Permit holder, I can assure you I would rather be able to carry on campus than to be prohibited. What is wrong with you?
The police will end up shooting a teacher by mistake
Nice going Tennessee. But allowing teachers to have guns you’ve now given a possible school shooter in Tennessee a reason to buy a more powerful weapon or weapons.
We are hired to teach, I am not paid to carry a gun or shield your child from bad actors, Call the police if you need that.
and cue a teachers gun getting in a students hands in 3,2,1 pew pew
I live in 🇨🇦 so I might be wrong about this but isn’t Tennessee near the bottom in America in education?
Yes!😊
I have a feeling I might not be alive if a few of my teachers had guns lol
All teachers should strike now
I am a former licensed gun and ammo manufacturer, pistol instructor, gunsmith, and retired combat arms soldier.. This is crazy ,I had too many teachers that had real untreated mental health problems in school. I have also worked with public school teachers, that are also instructors, most of them also agree that most teachers don't need guns in schools. Public school teachers are not soldiers. They became teachers, not law enforcement for a reason. Not everyone is a soldier. Any one who went through any basic training , will tell you, this is true. Even trained soldiers freeze up in combat. Expecting teachers to do this, is not reasonable.
Now, lets have a mental health break second. If a teacher uses having a gun as a means to get a specific behavior from our children, are you ok with that? Would you trust your child's report that the teacher scared them with a gun. NOw, an a-hole HS kid uses that to get a teacher he does not like in trouble. The school has to pull the teacher, if they don't and something happens they are liable. Just another way to get good teacher kicked. has anyone here ever had a teacher have a full mental breakdown in class? I have. What happens if a teacher gets their mental health meds , wrong. Do you really want someone on meds, that havre a suicide warning on them, with access to a firearm, on their hip? Do you trust someone experiencing postpartum depression with a handgun in room full of children?
I am all about guns, I love them, I build them, design them, teach people how to safely use them. I am not willing to turn my child over to people who don't have the amount of training or combat experience experience needed on a daily basis. Complacency is already a problem when using a firearm. Putting guns in an environment where the same thing, is done every day, in the same order, is asking for a problem.
What type of training would be enough training? I cannot think of any amount of training that would be enough. Short of being in actually combat, in an urban setting, seeing children that you know and love killed in from of them. I can't think of anything that would prepare them for that. Even the training could cause PTSD. Not happy happy joy joy call of duty PTSD. Real PTSD. That take real work to get through, and dare I say, mental health meds that have blackbox suicide warnings on them.
This is monumentally a bad idea.
Wow! While I agree with the fact teachers carrying in schools is ridiculous and outrageous, to state that teachers shouldn't have guns because they have mental illness and may use guns against children is also outrageous. You have no evidence that teachers have a higher rate of metal illness than the rest of the population. So if you think the possibility of mental illness should restrict things like conceal carry then maybe we shouldn't allow it all. (I'd be ok with that). All your reasons against teachers having guns (i.e. training, mental health) should be used to restrict the general population from having guns as well.
I dont know better gun control laws sounds like a great idea giving untrained teachers guns does not. So what will happen if a kid get ahold of the teachers gun and kills themselves or another is the teacher going to be held responsible or will it be the state.
Ohio passed a similar law just last week, making it the 29th State that allows teachers, who volunteers, to carry a gun on campus during school hours. Where was all this outrage last week?
Kids will break into a gun locker.
It's either this or SWAT style guards lurking the school hallways.
teachers job isto teach not protect kids from shooters.thats the police job
@@simoncox9689yes! exactly it's only logical that the teacher (while other ppl children is under their supervision) should rely 100% on the quick response of the same authorities that have a history of injustices, incompetence, and corruption byo make it to you before the shooter does and no plan b in case he does.
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Teachers are underpaid and underappreciated in this country. Also expect them to be vigilantes.
I used to travel to the US for work for 10 years. I was there for about a week per year, or a total of about 10 weeks. I witnessed two cab drivers shoot each other dead while I was in the cab, saw a man murder another man with a gun in a Walmart, and I saw the NYPD kill a homeless person, and then pull their guns on me for being in the vicinity. I have never even seen a gun in a public place in my country, and we have about 40000 fewer gun deaths per year. I survived the murders I witnessed and consider myself lucky to never go back.
No Tennessee Slander , but Yes this is Ridiculous
Police : "You shot your (Black) student." Teacher : "I feared for my life!"
Teachers will be trusted to have an assault weapon shoot out,
but don't dare pick a library book. 🙄
QUESTION IN GAME SHOW ===== books are banned, but assault rifles are allowed
contestent A - nazi germany? ====== WRONG
contestant B - russian military base? ===== WRONG
contestant C - library in america? ===== CORRECT
@@AsifKhan-hf9zycrazy how you can just buy the book at a store
@@noche7864 mindnumbing idiots in my state of idiocracy
@@noche7864yet they continue the dishonest argument.. A 5 year old can see through it…
DON'T HAVE KIDS!!!!!!
I remember how mad the teachers would get at us sometimes. I would not want one to have a gun lol
The US is insane 😂
This literally adds guns into the school environment. If there was anything stopping a kid from getting a gun off school grounds it doesn’t matter now because they will be all over school grounds now. It’ll only take a lapse in judgment by a teacher who is over worked and leaves their gun in their desk or a younger and potentially stronger student’s overpowering a teacher to take their gun before this results in a massacre.
Insane
Can’t understand the United States anymore
If teachers are expected to carry guns in the event of a shooting, they should receive a police officer salary on top of their teacher salary.
Who said expected?
I am a teacher, I could never bring a gun to class. That is just mental. I am often a confidant to kids, how can I still be that if I bring a killing utensil to that discussion, this is not a knife in shop class. I truly feel bad for anyone who thinks this is a good idea.
There's a sign on the wall outside the school (before you walk in) that says "no firearms allowed past this point"
I guess the school shooters didn't see the sign.
Maybe if they made the sign bigger so the shooters would know not that he wasn't allowed to take a gun in there he would know not to go in and start shooting.
Or what if they made shooting ppl illegal. Then they couldn't shoot anyone.
So you wouldn’t protect your kids lives? What a pathetic teacher.
Nowhere in TN are they requiring teachers to carry. There not giving out school issued Glocks.
If you could never bring a gun to class then you don't have too.
@@youknow9092
I think that most teachers wont opt to carry a gun to school, but at least its an option for teachers that would like to carry a fire arm.
The universe is a fluid chaotic messy place. Every situation/circumstance is unique. You can still be principled being against it while also carrying a firearm because laws and government can be too slow and ineffective.
Didn't know we was going full fascist starship troopers...
Money
Buys politicians
OUTRAGEOUS. I don't agree at all. They are there to teach and putting this pressure along with everything else is way too much. Put metal detectors.
So teachers in Tennessee now have a lethal way to enforce student discipline. Well maybe more students will do their homework on time.
Scary, it is just a matter of time before an incident occurs with one of the guns.
NOPE!
Tennessee once again being completely embarrassing by the laws they pass.
Most states have similar laws. You are the only embarrassment here. 👍
@@papawheelie5576 typical of the bunchanumbers clan, always wrong.
When the governor asked to make one thing clear it’s it’s optional. Then you know it’s not optional.
Will the state supply the bullets or is that another out of pocket expense teachers will be expected to cover?
The state covers no costs, not even the annual training.
Cool, I’m sure nothing bad will come of this. Ever.
It seems that Tennessee has forgotten what teachers are supposed to be doing.
History teacher, Mrs Perkins will now be responsible for confronting the AR15 wielding maniac with her sidearm.
You would rather wait for the police to maybe show? Perkins is a deadeye, btw. She rocks.
What do you mean you didn't do your assignment?
This is much more likely to have a negative outcome.... Bad idea.
Let me guess, an armed teacher must go through EXTENSIVE training,background checks,mental health screenings,,,,but dont impose those same regulations on gun owners or purchasers...
I don't know what training would be sufficient, short of active duty combat, that would even get people close.
I don't want a teacher who wants to be armed at school around my kids
yes
You move....try 🇷🇺
@Drax_Corrandd kind of self-serving and ignorant what you said.
@@maukwa420 dumb what you said.
You think teachers haven't been carry guns in schools before this?
If you live in one of the states that is considering this. You need to ask yourself how does that make your kids safer.
It's already happened in Iowa
These “representatives” will need to be held accountable when, not if, but when, this goes bad. There will be a horrible tragedy, and that will be too soon.
So what happen when the teacher snap?
Excellent question.
On the bright side maybe the students will pay more attention in class😂
Maybe provide the teachers with “Qualified Immunity” just like the police ……
News headline … “teacher justified in the shooting of several students who failed important trigonometry exam.”
Every single teacher needs to walk out!!! Do not go back on Monday! Find a new job.
Arming teachers makes sense in a way. Bodies often pile up in school shooter events long before cops arrive--and that is in URBAN schools, where the cops are actually NEARBY!
The 2012 Sandy Hook shooting went six minutes (police took five); the 2005 Red Lake incident was nine minutes (police took eight); the 2016 Parkland incident was seven minutes (first off-site cops arrived in 11, giving the gunman a chance to escape).
But none of the people in the schools are really trained. Plus they don't trust teachers to teach history - but guns no issue.
But lets be honest., Now teacher has gun and a student comes in with a knife or rock or anything. All of a sudden we are shooting angry people, etc.
@@richardhaighway4816 You must think teachers are as angry and stupid as the cops.
@@richardhaighway4816Training is required per this law.
Uvalde is the only example you need to give. Cops showed up and did nothing.
If,,,,They can do this in a way that wouldn’t be dangerous, I would be all in.
Like making people think they had guns, but no guns, poker face deterrent.
tragic but true story. Jun 10, 2019 in Maryville, TN a teacher form Foothills Elementary School shot his son (8year old) and himself. luckily did not not happen at school, it happened at his apartment.
At first I thought they were yelling "Put on your pants!". The whole thing is ridiculous. Ohio is the same.
This is going to paint a target on every teacher in that school district..what a shame!
How about metal detectors, locked doors, cameras at doors so if a student is late they get buzzed in via on duty officer, he may as well earn his paycheck anyways.
An AR 15 has never been used on A Battle field
Flaunting can attract the wrong attention.
Soon, disagring with opinions or alterate perspectives have determental consequences, if it didn't already.
People unable to defend themselves should keep, their opinions, beliefs, observations, conclusions; to themselves for safety reasons.
Absolutely so glad I don’t have kids in school.