An interesting coincidence, I have a selection of Ratio gear on it's way to me for testing including a iX3M-2. I've played with Ratio computers before, years ago, and they're clever computers that are packed with features. I found them easy to use and loved the screens. I'll let you know what it's like
Nice breakdown...I own Shearwater Terics and Perdix 2.0...really love them both...my terics 2020 version needed some work and shearwater replaced the housing and motherboard for free !! I just paid for a new battery...the new housing version is larger ...so I virtually got a brand new terics upgrade for the price of a new rechargeable battery ...wow ..what fantastic customer service!!
I bought a new dive computer last year because my Galileo Luna 1 could no longer be updated via my PC due to its infrared interface. I chose the I770r with a transmitter from Aqualung (special price including transmitter approx. 850€). The readability of the display is great, coupling with iPhone and PC via Bluetooth is very good. Connection with transmitter works perfectly. I swapped the wristband for two rubber straps (much easier to use). Only the plug for charging the battery sometimes has no contact and the cover glass reflects the light from the surface underwater in a range of up to 10 meters. Otherwise, I am very satisfied.
Have u ever tried North Edge aqua? I bought one at only 70USD and it works pretty well, but I'm just a beginner AOW diver so I'm not sure whether it's functionality is comprehensive enough
No, it's not a brand I've heard of myself, it worries me that I can't see what algorithm it uses and all of the dive information is very vague on the product page.
I use it as well. I'm not sure about the battery life, the translation is ridiculous, but measurements are spot on (compared to my buddy's mk3i.). Probably wont last long, but hey... for this price?
Thank you for the presentation. Could you include the prices as well so people dont have to look up every item separately - that would be very much appreciated
I'm currently looking at buying my first computer, I'm tossing up between the Eon core and the Shearwater Peregrine. I want to get something a little bit more than the basic zoop. Both currently available at very similar prices to me, Beginner to Intimidate diver. what would you recommend ? love the videos
I've used both and they're both great. If I were choosing I'd choose the Shearwater, they have a great reputation for customer service. They both have nice screens and UI, the only place where the EON Core stands out is wireless air integration. If that's an important feature for you then it rules out the Peregrine.
Perdix 2. What a powerhouse of a dive computer. If you don't mind the bulk, the Petrel 3. I'm running the Perdix 2 as my main, and Perdix AI as my backup.
Thanks for such a concise and informative video. Quick question for anyone with recommendations. I'm relatively new to scuba diving (10 months / 40+ dives) and I've been using the Suunto D5 that I got second-hand from a friend. On our latest trip the Suunto D5 locked me out for 48 hours because the battery went 'critical' mid-dive and now I no longer feel safe using the D5 and currently looking to get a new one. I see that the Garmin G1 is on this list but I'm also keen on the Garmin MK2S and the Shearwater Peregrine. I'm looking for anything that displays regular dive information and logs/sync each dive into an app in my iPhone - don't think I really need anything fancier than this. My budget is approx 500usd. Please note that I already wear an Apple Watch on a day-to-day basis so I'm only looking specifically for scuba diving purposes. Please advise!
I've just bought the SEAC Partner, it is a freediving computer... I want to use it for scuba diving, will I have all needed functions there? I am a bit confused about Freediving vs Scuba computers.
No, freediving computers don't usually have diving algorithms in them so they act as depth sensors and bottom timers only. It won't recommend stops or MODs and other scuba-specific functions, it will just tell you how deep you are at any given moment and how long since you left the surface.
I've actually just finished a script on air integration and everything you need to know about it. Give me a couple of weeks and I'll get the video published
I own a Eon Core, its a good computer overall, but I have difficult to see the screen in sunny conditions especially outside the water or shallow dives. Does anyone face the same issue?
Quite a few dive computers are tricky to read when the sun is shining down on them and I think I had that issue when I tested the EON Steel. They get a mirror effect in shallow water when it's bright. I just shield the screen with my hand like I would a phone to read it in the bright sun.
The video is nice, I actually need a dive computer that gives decompression and safety wait warning, does Mares quad air do this job? If anyone has any information or can recommend it, thank you.
All modern dive computers will have those functions and the Mares Quad Air will do that for you. The Quad has a nice large screen that's easy to read at a glance.
In india we dont have garmin dive computers sales and service , here have only mares ,suunto, sherwater sales only and service is little bit difficult so and i am looking for watch style computer for my scuba diving hobby (i am already done my rescue diver course)in mares and suunto pls suggest....
From those brands we can look at the following computers: Sirius, Smart (air), D4i, D5, Tern (tx) and the Teric. The best computer from those three brands is the Shearwater Teric. It has full technical diving features and everything that any scuba diver will ever need. The Tern and Tern Tx is a cheaper, less technical alternative. I've always been a fan of Suunto's D-range of computers. The D5 is a nice computer but, I'm not a huge fan of it's battery life as a day to day watch. The D4i Novo or the D6i Novo I would prefer. With Mares, I'd choose the Sirius. The Smart computers are a great budget computer but, I prefer the user-interface of the Sirius.
@@ScubaDiverMagazine thx for ur reply sir... I need ur final suggestion between tern tx vs mares sirius which one I can go for... Sir one more thing in india we dont have trimix and more technical diving options here sir we go as far as nitrox only so tat y...pls suggest
Hey Mark , I love to watch your reviews they helped me with gear I have acquired over the years. I would like to get opinion on which you would recommend on diving fin for the tropics like the Philippines. I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of RK3 when I came across this add and video for the deep 6 fins. I am 58 soon to turn 59 and will be doing a lot of drift dives overtime in the Philippines one in particular that was rated in the top ten dive sites in the world in diver magazine. Which one would you recommend? Sincerley Steve Kline
I've also heard good things about the Deep6 Fins but, I've never used them myself. Apeks are also releasing an RK4 fin this year to add an extra consideration for you. Whichever you choose, they're both great fins that will last forever. One of the big features that the Deep6 Fins have is that you can adjust the length of the spring heels. The RK3 Spring Heels are fixed unless you replace them with a different length. It's never been an issue for me but, other divers have found them a little tight.
Most of them are rechargeable watches, or smart watches, I tried 2 from the list and hated the fact that my watch is now a second phone that I need to recharge every often. Can we have a list of best battery replaceable or solar powered dive computers / daily watches? Thanks.
Me, my wife and daughter have the Suuno Eon Core. Can’t say I am missing something comparing with even more expensive dive computers. Tried all known brands and Suunto is what concerns me the best value for money.
Read through the manual. Shearwater manuals are great at explaining each setting and feature and you may learn about a new feature that you didn't know about. Shearwater are also very good at providing updates periodically so connect it to the app from time to time. Just be aware that an update will clear your tissues so, don't update between dives.
Nice options. I'll throw in the Atmos Mission 2 as a solid entry level color smart watch that can be worn everyday with options for regular traditional fitness monitoring.
I've Suunto Vyper Novo and a Zoop Novo as a backup. I've tried many, but at the end the big screen of this Suunto are good for my presbyopia and the price affordable. If I make tech diving I use the runtime so I just need the gauge mode, and for rec dive are perfect enough.
#askmark. Hey Mark, I am looking to buy a new dive computer as I get into technical diving this year. I have been looking at reviews of the Garmin Mk3i and the Perdix 2 Ti but cannot make up my mind! I usually end up diving only 2-3 times a year but for 10-15 days at a stretch. Would love to hear your views on which one makes most sense as a tech diver assuming no budget constraints (purely functional comparison)
The Perdix is more widely adopted by the Tech Diving community because it leans heavily towards scuba diving and tech diving features. It will last many dive seasons because you replace the battery, usually the first thing that wears out. The Descent would be better if you want a multi-sport computer that does a lot more than just scuba diving. It will handle tech diving just fine and the battery is surprisingly good for its size. If you are in the market for a smartwatch anyway, I'd recommend the Descent. For the best scuba diving computer, I'd recommend the Perdix. It's completely scuba-diving-focused and it will last a lot longer
@@ScubaDiverMagazine Also, the Perdix 2 has a more configurable screen. In OC TEC mode it can display a ton of information on the main screen, or keep it down to an absolute minimum, and everything in between. If you set it up right you can have it display up to 16 individual data points at the same time (in AI mode with 4 transmitters). Top row: DEPTH, TIME, NDL/DECO/SAFETY/SURFACE Center row: MINI 1 (3 values), MIDDLE, MINI 2 (3 values) -- All 7 values are user configurable Bottom row: T1 & T2, GTR & SAC, T3 & T4 I've got the center row of my main dive computer set up to display: MINI 1: GF99, SurfGF, CNS MIDDLE: PPO2 MINI 2: TTS (Time to Surface), Δ+5, RTR (Redundant Time Remaining) BOTTOM ROW: T1, GTR SM/SAC, T2 (with the NDL Mini set to: (TTS), GF, Temperature.) And the back up to: MINI 1: MOD, MaxDepth, AvgDepth, or Ceiling, AvgDepth, MaxDepth MIDDLE: PPO2 RIGHT: Density BOTTOM ROW: OC O2/HE, with the NDL Mini set to: (TTS), GF, Timer
The target audience for the DSX knows what they want and need on a dive computer and probably won't be watching these types of video. The DSX is a top-tier dive computer
Hey Mark I wonder if you would do a top 10 or top 12, for backup divecomputers. I got a Atmos Mission one, but I choosed a Mares Smart, as backup. The reason was, the bottom batteries made it a perfekt backup, because if you were lazy, to charge your batterie, or you run out you still got your backup. I know few may just use their old divecomputer as backup, but if not... I would recommend Mares Smart and cressi goa. But If you just need a secound Computer, what about a free divecomputer? I mean for those who always wear two, i don't know. 😮
I would love a free divecomputer, but the store keeps demanding money before they hand it over. Make sure your backup dive computer uses the same algorithm as your main. In fact, just buy two of the same.
True, if I had known the Peregrine TX was being produced I would have saved a space but, it's still nice that there's a cheaper non-AI version for divers who don't want the extra cost of AI.
#askmark Hello there ! I’ve been doing my research and already done some tests on the subject but I would like to know your thoughts (pros & cons) about the difference between the “Y” and “H” configurations for back mount and Sidemount harness Thanks for the always useful content! Cheers
I don't do much sidemount anymore so I'm not the best to give advice. But from what I've read a Y-harness has a more snug feel and is better for more space on the waistband for sliding D-Rings if you have ali cylinders. H-harness is better if you need more room around the shoulder to get kitted up and you're diving heavier cylinders. But they're loose and require a chest strap to hold them in place.
I’ve been on a few dives with the Apple ultra and the oceanic app. When it works it’s fantastic. But often it just hangs and refuses to start when you’ve commenced your dive. I’ve lost dive info for a few of my dives. Fortunately my buddy had a real dive computer and we relied on his. The Apple Watch Ultra with the oceanic app is really expensive and is just not reliable enough
I have an iPhone and an Apple Watch, but my issue with the Apple ultra is the fact that the full dive computer functions are only available by subscription. This is the thin end of the wedge and I hope they’re not starting a trend. The other problem is that they only work within recreational diving parameters, and if you exceed those it can lock out. This is a big no-no, as regardless how you dive, or if you inadvertently exceeded the parameters, you still need to return to the surface safely. If you need to watch buy a watch if you need a dive computer, buy one and from a company that specializes in them.
@marksallows113 its not really reliable enough for rec, let alone tech. I run two shearwater computers on deep dives, i wouldn't feel safe with even 4 apple watches
what about the Ratio-Computers? I bought the Ratio iX3M Tech+ and think its better than every computer you just presented besides probably the Perdix and Descent MK3i
thanks for the Info! Can you maybe elaborate what exaclty to look for on these Computers? For me the computer seemed to work flawlessly besides an depth error of ± 30cm@@marksallows113
@@sousa1534 Every dive computer (and every SPG) has some form of deviation. I prefer the design philosophy of the Shearwater over the Ratio. Shearwater was asked why they don't have games on it to amuse yourself during deco or safety stops. Their answer was simple: "It would be easy to implement, but we don't want your dive computer to run out of memory and crash during your dive."
Nothing but problems with my Shearwater peregrine. The screen fogs over as soon as you enter the water. Sent it back for repair, no fault found. Full seals were changed and the item was returned to me. Still have the same issue. Screen fogs over at the start of every dive, does clear after 5 minutes or so but it looks terrible, everyone sees this and comments.
I use a Genesis Centauri. Only bad thing is, I lost a Wristband mounting screw. Had to purchase a new Wristband. At least Genesis provided the Tools. A little Blue Thread locker, All is good now
Yeah, we have one on it's way for testing. I've played with it's previous version but, not the newer 2nd gen. It will be interesting to show everybody when it arrives.
Yeah, definitely not in my Top 10, or Top 20, or Top 50 for that matter. The idea of running an app as a life saving device just screams "wrong" to me. Never mind the subscription model.
LOVE my Teric. When my eyes start to regress (Lasic doesn’t last forever) I will upgrade to the Perdix 2. Since I occasionally dive with a Pony while lobster hunting or with an air hog buddy I love the ability to connect multiple transmitters to my Teric (I have 2).
The Perdix 2 has a bigger screen, but the contrast and resolution is better on the Teric. You may find that they don't differ that much in terms of readability. If you find you're having trouble reading the Teric, try the Perdix 3 instead. It's also got an AMOLED screen, and the screen is even bigger than the Perdix 2. Maybe the Perdix 3 will feature an AMOLED screen one day.
I wasn't overly impressed by the screen and surface features when compared to other similar computers. If I were to invest in a Suunto I'd choose an EON Core or a Steel over the D5 but, I do prefer large screen computers
@@ScubaDiverMagazine I guess in the past an entry level watch-style computer is far and few in between, but this year as you’ve shown on your list, there are definitely more contenders, pushing the D5 back
@@tiktac1576 Have it too, since about 4 years. Love the looks, simplicity, bluetoothstuff and AI. Hate having to switch between compass, tankpressure and NDL, and the logbook app looks good, but lacks a lot.
The choices for regulators are vastly bigger than those for dive computers. Narrowing it down to 10 is going to be tough, especially if you want to cover various price ranges. Though there are plenty of videos out there that do a Top 10 regulators, there are always notable omissions. Almost every manufacturer produces budget regulators, travel regulators, and high-end regulators. If you're doing the occasional recreational dive, a budget regulator may be enough for you. If you travel a lot, you may want a lightweight regulator. If you're diving down to 30 or 40 meters (100 to 130 ft) or in water temperatures below 10°C, you'll want a high performing regulator. If you dive doubles or sidemount, you'll need an additional 1st stage. Try to figure out for yourself what type of regulator you want, and what you're willing to spend on it. Consider the service interval. Remember that servicing a first stage with two second stages will cost somewhere between $120 and $200. If your regulator has a service interval of 2 years instead of every year, that's another $120 to $200 you may be able to add to your regulator budget. And remember that the 1st stage is the workhorse of your regulator set. 2nd stages generally speaking don't add much to the performance of the regulator set. Almost all 2nd stages have Venturi levers and cracking resistance adjustment. You can pick whatever design appeals to you the most. I would stick with the major brands like Scubapro, Aqualung, Apeks, Mares, or Atomic, but check what brands your local dive store can service before you buy anything. It's no fun having to ship your regulator set to a service center.
Please be aware that Garmin’s MK2 has a documented issue with its deep sensor, it can fail in the middle of a immersion and ruin your dive, it happened to my wife. It has no solution but replace the computer for a new one. That’s why I prefer to stick with dedicated dive computers and brands. Hopefully Garmin will have fixed this on the MK3.
Well, I cannot confirm is a bug that affects all MK2, but when it happened I did a quick google search and found several cases, same issue. Also, at Garmin shop they told me they have known other cases, same issue. Hope this helps.@@amillako9886
A broken d6i novo for 1000 bucks is what i jave at the moment. Thanks to suunto malpractice and hideous lressure sensors. I ll do with 2 regular hose depth gauges and a timer for 55 minute dives and rent co.puters in tec dives
Suunto Vyper Novo with air integration is a pretty solid combo for recreational diving, which is very reasonably priced as well. As for smart watches, and as an alternative to the watch Ultra, albeit more capable as a dive computer and has superior battery life, Huawei Watch Ultimate deserves a mention IMHO 😊 However, with no air integration and no option to extract dive log info into another app, I wouldn't recommend it as the only dive computer to own/dive with
If you're qualified to dive beyond 40m you'll be buying a different range of computers anyway. The Apple Watch Ultra isn't made for that type of diver and it will still get you back to the surface if you stray too deep.
@@ScubaDiverMagazine so there is no way for any AOWD to go beyond the 40m according to you just because he is not qualified? last time i checked there was no visible line denoting the 40m...and everything happens when diving. one might not get below 40, but what if your hand goes, the simplest of examples. it is not serious to use that type of reasoning for something you rely on underwater and is the same type of reasoning apple is using. simply put you are doing them a favor advertising a product that is dangerous if used a millimeter below 40m as it blocks your dive computer for the rest of the dive!
@@SvetoslavBonev Take the Deep Diving specialty course, then you'll know why. Also, the AWU will continue to track down to 44 meters, it just won't display anything but a red warning that you need to ascend. Even if you were to dive to 40 meters (which is a dumb thing to do on air or nitrox), unless you have an arm that's over 4 meters long, you won't exceed the depth sensor's limitations.
@bloodymarvelous4790 what makes you think i didn't? and PADI is the worst agency for such specialties...And believe me, i like to take photos hanging down with the camera below me. And i have seen a lot of below 40 accidentally strayed divers. The question is what would they do if they were with apple watch? and red warning helps nobody with, lets say couple of minutes to deco. How do you manage safely surfacing if you are recreational with no backup computer and stray beyond 40 on the off chance you got distracted or had to help somebody and having couple of minutes to deco???? So your arguments are plain stupid when it comes to reality, unless you work for apple 😉
@@SvetoslavBonev I think you're misunderstanding how the AWU works. The display turns red below 40 meters, showing no other data, but the watch will continue to track your depth and data down to 44 meters. As soon as you ascend back above 40 meters, the display will show all relevant information again, and guide you through your deco obligations. What makes me think you didn't take the Deep diving course? Well, the fact that the recreational dive limit is 30m. 44m is 5 stories lower. You don't accidentally drop another 14 meters. You're massively negligent if you go that far below the maximum depth. Also, the gas density is well below the limit of 5.2 g/l, and even below the absolute limit of 6.2 g/l presenting serious WOB issues and highly increased risk of hypercapnia. Not to mention the narcosis you'll experience at that depth. Your arguments are the ones that make no sense in a practical situation. The AWU is a recreational dive computer, and a 14m or roughly 50% depth buffer is more than enough. There are plenty of other issues with the AWU as a dive computer, but the depth limit isn't one of them.
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Hi everyone! Have any of you tried the Ratio iX3M2 GPS?
An interesting coincidence, I have a selection of Ratio gear on it's way to me for testing including a iX3M-2.
I've played with Ratio computers before, years ago, and they're clever computers that are packed with features. I found them easy to use and loved the screens. I'll let you know what it's like
The fact that Shearwater has three different computers on this list, lets me know how great they are
Garmin … started with mk1 … 2 … and just got 3 😊
Shearwater Perdix is my favorite!
Just got a Perdix 2.0 and can't wait to try it out!
Nice breakdown...I own Shearwater Terics and Perdix 2.0...really love them both...my terics 2020 version needed some work and shearwater replaced the housing and motherboard for free !! I just paid for a new battery...the new housing version is larger ...so I virtually got a brand new terics upgrade for the price of a new rechargeable battery ...wow ..what fantastic customer service!!
Shearwater are such an awesome company who value looking after their customers over profits, they're always easy to recommend
Really great advice
Garmin G1 Solar for more than a year now! Love it
I love my RATIO ix3m2 GPS!
I bought a new dive computer last year because my Galileo Luna 1 could no longer be updated via my PC due to its infrared interface. I chose the I770r with a transmitter from Aqualung (special price including transmitter approx. 850€). The readability of the display is great, coupling with iPhone and PC via Bluetooth is very good. Connection with transmitter works perfectly. I swapped the wristband for two rubber straps (much easier to use). Only the plug for charging the battery sometimes has no contact and the cover glass reflects the light from the surface underwater in a range of up to 10 meters. Otherwise, I am very satisfied.
Have u ever tried North Edge aqua? I bought one at only 70USD and it works pretty well, but I'm just a beginner AOW diver so I'm not sure whether it's functionality is comprehensive enough
No, it's not a brand I've heard of myself, it worries me that I can't see what algorithm it uses and all of the dive information is very vague on the product page.
I use it as well. I'm not sure about the battery life, the translation is ridiculous, but measurements are spot on (compared to my buddy's mk3i.). Probably wont last long, but hey... for this price?
Hi Mark, can you suggest perdix 2 and apeks dsx which is better for sidemount? My key requirement is to see both gas volumes on one monitor
Thank you for the presentation. Could you include the prices as well so people dont have to look up every item separately - that would be very much appreciated
Sure, prices can be tricky and fluctuate over time and geography but, I can include a general price in future
Would you try and review the huawei ultimate?
I'm currently looking at buying my first computer, I'm tossing up between the Eon core and the Shearwater Peregrine. I want to get something a little bit more than the basic zoop. Both currently available at very similar prices to me, Beginner to Intimidate diver. what would you recommend ? love the videos
I've used both and they're both great. If I were choosing I'd choose the Shearwater, they have a great reputation for customer service.
They both have nice screens and UI, the only place where the EON Core stands out is wireless air integration. If that's an important feature for you then it rules out the Peregrine.
@@ScubaDiverMagazineUntil now, with the Peregrine TX 😊
Wife and I both got Garmin Mk3i. Love it so far.
Eon Core and D5 backups
Perdix 2. What a powerhouse of a dive computer.
If you don't mind the bulk, the Petrel 3.
I'm running the Perdix 2 as my main, and Perdix AI as my backup.
I absolutely love my Descent Mk2i, just ordered the Mk3i and cannot wait to get it!
Thanks for such a concise and informative video. Quick question for anyone with recommendations.
I'm relatively new to scuba diving (10 months / 40+ dives) and I've been using the Suunto D5 that I got second-hand from a friend. On our latest trip the Suunto D5 locked me out for 48 hours because the battery went 'critical' mid-dive and now I no longer feel safe using the D5 and currently looking to get a new one.
I see that the Garmin G1 is on this list but I'm also keen on the Garmin MK2S and the Shearwater Peregrine. I'm looking for anything that displays regular dive information and logs/sync each dive into an app in my iPhone - don't think I really need anything fancier than this. My budget is approx 500usd.
Please note that I already wear an Apple Watch on a day-to-day basis so I'm only looking specifically for scuba diving purposes.
Please advise!
I have a Peregrine and absolutely love it! Sure there’s no AI but the vast majority of recreational divers won’t miss that feature.
Yeah, AI isn't a deal-breaker for me. I always dive with an analogue SPG and check my SPG more than my transmitter.
I didn't think so either until I used a computer with AI now wouldn't be without it.
I've just bought the SEAC Partner, it is a freediving computer... I want to use it for scuba diving, will I have all needed functions there? I am a bit confused about Freediving vs Scuba computers.
No, freediving computers don't usually have diving algorithms in them so they act as depth sensors and bottom timers only. It won't recommend stops or MODs and other scuba-specific functions, it will just tell you how deep you are at any given moment and how long since you left the surface.
Wish you could comment more on air integration
Shopping for my 1st computer, and instructor days I need air integration for what I plan to do
I've actually just finished a script on air integration and everything you need to know about it. Give me a couple of weeks and I'll get the video published
@@ScubaDiverMagazine thank you
Loved the vídeo and the way in which you categorized de computers.
Personally, I’ve been using the Eon Steel w/pod for years and I love it!!
When will you review the new suunto ocean?
Probably next week, I've had one for 4 days now and it's a very nice machine.
How about crest cr5 ?
I own a Eon Core, its a good computer overall, but I have difficult to see the screen in sunny conditions especially outside the water or shallow dives. Does anyone face the same issue?
Quite a few dive computers are tricky to read when the sun is shining down on them and I think I had that issue when I tested the EON Steel. They get a mirror effect in shallow water when it's bright.
I just shield the screen with my hand like I would a phone to read it in the bright sun.
The video is nice, I actually need a dive computer that gives decompression and safety wait warning, does Mares quad air do this job? If anyone has any information or can recommend it, thank you.
All modern dive computers will have those functions and the Mares Quad Air will do that for you. The Quad has a nice large screen that's easy to read at a glance.
whats your opinion about XDEEP BLACK EANx?
In india we dont have garmin dive computers sales and service , here have only mares ,suunto, sherwater sales only and service is little bit difficult so and i am looking for watch style computer for my scuba diving hobby (i am already done my rescue diver course)in mares and suunto pls suggest....
From those brands we can look at the following computers: Sirius, Smart (air), D4i, D5, Tern (tx) and the Teric.
The best computer from those three brands is the Shearwater Teric. It has full technical diving features and everything that any scuba diver will ever need. The Tern and Tern Tx is a cheaper, less technical alternative.
I've always been a fan of Suunto's D-range of computers. The D5 is a nice computer but, I'm not a huge fan of it's battery life as a day to day watch. The D4i Novo or the D6i Novo I would prefer.
With Mares, I'd choose the Sirius. The Smart computers are a great budget computer but, I prefer the user-interface of the Sirius.
@@ScubaDiverMagazine thx for ur reply sir... I need ur final suggestion between tern tx vs mares sirius which one I can go for... Sir one more thing in india we dont have trimix and more technical diving options here sir we go as far as nitrox only so tat y...pls suggest
CREST CR 5L, good for a recreational diver?😊
I haven't used a Crest computer myself but, one of the team has used on and they loved it. They found the screen very easy to see.
@@ScubaDiverMagazine was not hoping for a reply, thanks a lot!!! will get the CREST 5L, they got a nice sunrise color :)
Had a zoop novo for a couple of years, buttons were hard ot push, I upgraded to a Perigrine and its awesome.
Hey Mark , I love to watch your reviews they helped me with gear I have acquired over the years. I would like to get opinion on which you would recommend on diving fin for the tropics like the Philippines. I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of RK3 when I came across this add and video for the deep 6 fins. I am 58 soon to turn 59 and will be doing a lot of drift dives overtime in the Philippines one in particular that was rated in the top ten dive sites in the world in diver magazine. Which one would you recommend?
Sincerley
Steve Kline
I've also heard good things about the Deep6 Fins but, I've never used them myself. Apeks are also releasing an RK4 fin this year to add an extra consideration for you.
Whichever you choose, they're both great fins that will last forever. One of the big features that the Deep6 Fins have is that you can adjust the length of the spring heels. The RK3 Spring Heels are fixed unless you replace them with a different length. It's never been an issue for me but, other divers have found them a little tight.
Most of them are rechargeable watches, or smart watches, I tried 2 from the list and hated the fact that my watch is now a second phone that I need to recharge every often. Can we have a list of best battery replaceable or solar powered dive computers / daily watches?
Thanks.
Me, my wife and daughter have the Suuno Eon Core. Can’t say I am missing something comparing with even more expensive dive computers. Tried all known brands and Suunto is what concerns me the best value for money.
Just bought the tern tx ... still have to use it .. any tips?
Read through the manual. Shearwater manuals are great at explaining each setting and feature and you may learn about a new feature that you didn't know about.
Shearwater are also very good at providing updates periodically so connect it to the app from time to time. Just be aware that an update will clear your tissues so, don't update between dives.
Love my EonCore with pod. Had it about a year. No issues whatsoever. Also use my old Mares Puck2.
Nice options. I'll throw in the Atmos Mission 2 as a solid entry level color smart watch that can be worn everyday with options for regular traditional fitness monitoring.
Yeah, we had an Atmos compute to test last year and we were surprised at how good the screen was
I've Suunto Vyper Novo and a Zoop Novo as a backup.
I've tried many, but at the end the big screen of this Suunto are good for my presbyopia and the price affordable.
If I make tech diving I use the runtime so I just need the gauge mode, and for rec dive are perfect enough.
Mark, your voice is so soothing. ❤
I have a peregrine and I’ve never loved anything more
#askmark. Hey Mark, I am looking to buy a new dive computer as I get into technical diving this year. I have been looking at reviews of the Garmin Mk3i and the Perdix 2 Ti but cannot make up my mind! I usually end up diving only 2-3 times a year but for 10-15 days at a stretch. Would love to hear your views on which one makes most sense as a tech diver assuming no budget constraints (purely functional comparison)
The Perdix is more widely adopted by the Tech Diving community because it leans heavily towards scuba diving and tech diving features. It will last many dive seasons because you replace the battery, usually the first thing that wears out.
The Descent would be better if you want a multi-sport computer that does a lot more than just scuba diving. It will handle tech diving just fine and the battery is surprisingly good for its size. If you are in the market for a smartwatch anyway, I'd recommend the Descent.
For the best scuba diving computer, I'd recommend the Perdix. It's completely scuba-diving-focused and it will last a lot longer
@@ScubaDiverMagazine Also, the Perdix 2 has a more configurable screen. In OC TEC mode it can display a ton of information on the main screen, or keep it down to an absolute minimum, and everything in between. If you set it up right you can have it display up to 16 individual data points at the same time (in AI mode with 4 transmitters).
Top row: DEPTH, TIME, NDL/DECO/SAFETY/SURFACE
Center row: MINI 1 (3 values), MIDDLE, MINI 2 (3 values) -- All 7 values are user configurable
Bottom row: T1 & T2, GTR & SAC, T3 & T4
I've got the center row of my main dive computer set up to display:
MINI 1: GF99, SurfGF, CNS
MIDDLE: PPO2
MINI 2: TTS (Time to Surface), Δ+5, RTR (Redundant Time Remaining)
BOTTOM ROW: T1, GTR SM/SAC, T2 (with the NDL Mini set to: (TTS), GF, Temperature.)
And the back up to:
MINI 1: MOD, MaxDepth, AvgDepth, or Ceiling, AvgDepth, MaxDepth
MIDDLE: PPO2
RIGHT: Density
BOTTOM ROW: OC O2/HE, with the NDL Mini set to: (TTS), GF, Timer
Any particular reason the Apeks DSX is out of the list?
The target audience for the DSX knows what they want and need on a dive computer and probably won't be watching these types of video. The DSX is a top-tier dive computer
Great video as always man! Thank you and liked the point that a rechargeable battery is going to lose its charge over time.
Ratio ix3m2 Is the best computer.. also the assistance is perfect..
I use the Suunto D4i, great dive computer/watch but I think for my upgrade I will go for the Suunto eon steel black.
mk3 es mi favorito a elegir, ahora tengo un suunto d5, y muy contento
Italian pride for new Ratio IX3M2 , the best dive computer on the market IHMO
Hey Mark
I wonder if you would do a top 10 or top 12, for backup divecomputers.
I got a Atmos Mission one, but I choosed a Mares Smart, as backup.
The reason was, the bottom batteries made it a perfekt backup, because if you were lazy, to charge your batterie, or you run out you still got your backup.
I know few may just use their old divecomputer as backup, but if not...
I would recommend Mares Smart and cressi goa.
But If you just need a secound Computer, what about a free divecomputer?
I mean for those who always wear two, i don't know. 😮
I dive the Sunnto Vyper Novo + Air Integration, and the Huawei Watch Ultimate as my dive computers 🙈
I also have a hose-mounted analog depth gauge 🙃
I would love a free divecomputer, but the store keeps demanding money before they hand it over.
Make sure your backup dive computer uses the same algorithm as your main.
In fact, just buy two of the same.
Never mind the computer, where can we get that t-shirt?
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I like Ratio IX3M2...very much
What's the general consensus on buying a used dive computer?
It's fine. You can delete the log history and just have a record of your own dives.
how used?
Perdix 2 Enough Said 😀
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I hope so, just got one and can't wait to get it wet!
@@Pete_R63let us know how you like it! Where are you Diving?
‘Nuff said. I have the Petrel2
What do you have against Teric? ;)
You need to Update this Video with the peregrine tx😅 i think its aside from more tec computers, the best you can get.
True, if I had known the Peregrine TX was being produced I would have saved a space but, it's still nice that there's a cheaper non-AI version for divers who don't want the extra cost of AI.
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Sir pls make a comparison video of sirius and tern tx....it will first video...
I'm surprised the D5 isn't on here. Entry level but I'm really happy with it.
That's what I say! It's fairly popular around my part of the world. Most shops carry them...
#askmark
Hello there ! I’ve been doing my research and already done some tests on the subject but I would like to know your thoughts (pros & cons) about the difference between the “Y” and “H” configurations for back mount and Sidemount harness
Thanks for the always useful content! Cheers
I don't do much sidemount anymore so I'm not the best to give advice. But from what I've read a Y-harness has a more snug feel and is better for more space on the waistband for sliding D-Rings if you have ali cylinders.
H-harness is better if you need more room around the shoulder to get kitted up and you're diving heavier cylinders. But they're loose and require a chest strap to hold them in place.
Plz review ATMOS Mission 2
Love my shearwater peregrine. Everything I need, until I want AI...
Has Apple really earned a spot here yet. Seems like they still need a little more work.
Apple Sucks 🤮🤮🤮
I’ve been on a few dives with the Apple ultra and the oceanic app. When it works it’s fantastic. But often it just hangs and refuses to start when you’ve commenced your dive. I’ve lost dive info for a few of my dives. Fortunately my buddy had a real dive computer and we relied on his. The Apple Watch Ultra with the oceanic app is really expensive and is just not reliable enough
I have an iPhone and an Apple Watch, but my issue with the Apple ultra is the fact that the full dive computer functions are only available by subscription. This is the thin end of the wedge and I hope they’re not starting a trend. The other problem is that they only work within recreational diving parameters, and if you exceed those it can lock out. This is a big no-no, as regardless how you dive, or if you inadvertently exceeded the parameters, you still need to return to the surface safely. If you need to watch buy a watch if you need a dive computer, buy one and from a company that specializes in them.
@marksallows113 its not really reliable enough for rec, let alone tech. I run two shearwater computers on deep dives, i wouldn't feel safe with even 4 apple watches
@@js4120agree, i have a Perdix AI (8 years old) and a Teric (8 weeks old)
what about the Ratio-Computers? I bought the Ratio iX3M Tech+ and think its better than every computer you just presented besides probably the Perdix and Descent MK3i
Our store has been selling them for a few years, but reliability has been an issue
oh good to know, can you maybe elaborate what exactly to look for?@@marksallows113
thanks for the Info! Can you maybe elaborate what exaclty to look for on these Computers? For me the computer seemed to work flawlessly besides an depth error of ± 30cm@@marksallows113
@@sousa1534 Every dive computer (and every SPG) has some form of deviation.
I prefer the design philosophy of the Shearwater over the Ratio. Shearwater was asked why they don't have games on it to amuse yourself during deco or safety stops. Their answer was simple: "It would be easy to implement, but we don't want your dive computer to run out of memory and crash during your dive."
Used MK1 Descents are like $250 now. Pretty good deal.
Nothing but problems with my Shearwater peregrine. The screen fogs over as soon as you enter the water. Sent it back for repair, no fault found. Full seals were changed and the item was returned to me. Still have the same issue. Screen fogs over at the start of every dive, does clear after 5 minutes or so but it looks terrible, everyone sees this and comments.
I use a Genesis Centauri. Only bad thing is, I lost a Wristband mounting screw. Had to purchase a new Wristband. At least Genesis provided the Tools. A little Blue Thread locker, All is good now
I like my Ratio IX3M2. The BEST!!!
Yeah, we have one on it's way for testing. I've played with it's previous version but, not the newer 2nd gen. It will be interesting to show everybody when it arrives.
I still love my 22 year old Suunto Stinger in stainless steel.
Love these videos. Keeps us up to date on new gear coming up with new features. Just back from the Caribbean. Love my Teric w/ AI.
I love my Peregrine, but still want to own the Perdix 2 AI.
Currently using the Eon Core with AI. Also have the Apple Watch Ultra just because.
Apple Watch as a Top 10 dive computer 😅😂
Yeah, definitely not in my Top 10, or Top 20, or Top 50 for that matter.
The idea of running an app as a life saving device just screams "wrong" to me. Never mind the subscription model.
Hahaha wonder how much they got paid to put that in there 😂
LOVE my Teric. When my eyes start to regress (Lasic doesn’t last forever) I will upgrade to the Perdix 2. Since I occasionally dive with a Pony while lobster hunting or with an air hog buddy I love the ability to connect multiple transmitters to my Teric (I have 2).
The Perdix 2 has a bigger screen, but the contrast and resolution is better on the Teric. You may find that they don't differ that much in terms of readability. If you find you're having trouble reading the Teric, try the Perdix 3 instead. It's also got an AMOLED screen, and the screen is even bigger than the Perdix 2.
Maybe the Perdix 3 will feature an AMOLED screen one day.
Perdix2. Will be going tech soon
#TeamPerdix
love my teric it would be my lifetime favourite dive computer
mk3i for sure
Interesting how Suunto D5 didn't make the list 😅
I wasn't overly impressed by the screen and surface features when compared to other similar computers. If I were to invest in a Suunto I'd choose an EON Core or a Steel over the D5 but, I do prefer large screen computers
@@ScubaDiverMagazine I guess in the past an entry level watch-style computer is far and few in between, but this year as you’ve shown on your list, there are definitely more contenders, pushing the D5 back
I have and really like the D5 but no it isn't perfect
@@tiktac1576 Have it too, since about 4 years. Love the looks, simplicity, bluetoothstuff and AI. Hate having to switch between compass, tankpressure and NDL, and the logbook app looks good, but lacks a lot.
Luna 2.0 AI just bought. Glad to see it on the list.
Eon Core with Zoop Novo as a back up 😊
Vote here for the Mission dive computers!
I have the Petrel 2 and the Tern. I’m a Shesrwater Guy
I agree
Would love something like this for regulators.
The choices for regulators are vastly bigger than those for dive computers. Narrowing it down to 10 is going to be tough, especially if you want to cover various price ranges.
Though there are plenty of videos out there that do a Top 10 regulators, there are always notable omissions.
Almost every manufacturer produces budget regulators, travel regulators, and high-end regulators.
If you're doing the occasional recreational dive, a budget regulator may be enough for you.
If you travel a lot, you may want a lightweight regulator.
If you're diving down to 30 or 40 meters (100 to 130 ft) or in water temperatures below 10°C, you'll want a high performing regulator.
If you dive doubles or sidemount, you'll need an additional 1st stage.
Try to figure out for yourself what type of regulator you want, and what you're willing to spend on it.
Consider the service interval. Remember that servicing a first stage with two second stages will cost somewhere between $120 and $200. If your regulator has a service interval of 2 years instead of every year, that's another $120 to $200 you may be able to add to your regulator budget.
And remember that the 1st stage is the workhorse of your regulator set. 2nd stages generally speaking don't add much to the performance of the regulator set. Almost all 2nd stages have Venturi levers and cracking resistance adjustment. You can pick whatever design appeals to you the most.
I would stick with the major brands like Scubapro, Aqualung, Apeks, Mares, or Atomic, but check what brands your local dive store can service before you buy anything. It's no fun having to ship your regulator set to a service center.
Garmin MK2i. Nothing else.
Not even the Mk3i?
Manca 1X3M2 della divesistem. Il mio ha 650 tuffi. Affidabile !!!
Teric FTW.
#TeamTeric
Give me the Perdix and some AA batteries any day.
Please be aware that Garmin’s MK2 has a documented issue with its deep sensor, it can fail in the middle of a immersion and ruin your dive, it happened to my wife. It has no solution but replace the computer for a new one. That’s why I prefer to stick with dedicated dive computers and brands. Hopefully Garmin will have fixed this on the MK3.
Apakah itu berlaku untuk semua mk2 ? Atau cuma di unit itu saja?
@@amillako9886 I’m sorry, English or Spanish.
@@JuanDavidCarrasquillaArango Does that apply to all MK2 or is it only on that unit?
Well, I cannot confirm is a bug that affects all MK2, but when it happened I did a quick google search and found several cases, same issue. Also, at Garmin shop they told me they have known other cases, same issue. Hope this helps.@@amillako9886
A broken d6i novo for 1000 bucks is what i jave at the moment. Thanks to suunto malpractice and hideous lressure sensors. I ll do with 2 regular hose depth gauges and a timer for 55 minute dives and rent co.puters in tec dives
Suunto Vyper Novo with air integration is a pretty solid combo for recreational diving, which is very reasonably priced as well.
As for smart watches, and as an alternative to the watch Ultra, albeit more capable as a dive computer and has superior battery life, Huawei Watch Ultimate deserves a mention IMHO 😊 However, with no air integration and no option to extract dive log info into another app, I wouldn't recommend it as the only dive computer to own/dive with
mk3
Lol, who might have thought that apple would have ongoing charges?
Garmin MK3i
There are recreational divers, and divers…
For divers, go for shearwater.
apple shouldn't be in that list... not a dive computer anymore the moment you hit 40m.
If you're qualified to dive beyond 40m you'll be buying a different range of computers anyway. The Apple Watch Ultra isn't made for that type of diver and it will still get you back to the surface if you stray too deep.
@@ScubaDiverMagazine so there is no way for any AOWD to go beyond the 40m according to you just because he is not qualified? last time i checked there was no visible line denoting the 40m...and everything happens when diving. one might not get below 40, but what if your hand goes, the simplest of examples.
it is not serious to use that type of reasoning for something you rely on underwater and is the same type of reasoning apple is using. simply put you are doing them a favor advertising a product that is dangerous if used a millimeter below 40m as it blocks your dive computer for the rest of the dive!
@@SvetoslavBonev Take the Deep Diving specialty course, then you'll know why.
Also, the AWU will continue to track down to 44 meters, it just won't display anything but a red warning that you need to ascend. Even if you were to dive to 40 meters (which is a dumb thing to do on air or nitrox), unless you have an arm that's over 4 meters long, you won't exceed the depth sensor's limitations.
@bloodymarvelous4790 what makes you think i didn't? and PADI is the worst agency for such specialties...And believe me, i like to take photos hanging down with the camera below me. And i have seen a lot of below 40 accidentally strayed divers. The question is what would they do if they were with apple watch? and red warning helps nobody with, lets say couple of minutes to deco. How do you manage safely surfacing if you are recreational with no backup computer and stray beyond 40 on the off chance you got distracted or had to help somebody and having couple of minutes to deco????
So your arguments are plain stupid when it comes to reality, unless you work for apple 😉
@@SvetoslavBonev I think you're misunderstanding how the AWU works. The display turns red below 40 meters, showing no other data, but the watch will continue to track your depth and data down to 44 meters. As soon as you ascend back above 40 meters, the display will show all relevant information again, and guide you through your deco obligations.
What makes me think you didn't take the Deep diving course? Well, the fact that the recreational dive limit is 30m. 44m is 5 stories lower. You don't accidentally drop another 14 meters. You're massively negligent if you go that far below the maximum depth. Also, the gas density is well below the limit of 5.2 g/l, and even below the absolute limit of 6.2 g/l presenting serious WOB issues and highly increased risk of hypercapnia. Not to mention the narcosis you'll experience at that depth.
Your arguments are the ones that make no sense in a practical situation. The AWU is a recreational dive computer, and a 14m or roughly 50% depth buffer is more than enough. There are plenty of other issues with the AWU as a dive computer, but the depth limit isn't one of them.