one of my friends told me that muzan solos frieza cuz his hax (regen) are supossedly better than frieza's durability since frizea can't heal on his own
So Goku is a fraud for using other people's moves/techniques? Then i guess any anime character that trains and use movements other characters have used prior is a fraud.
naruto is a fraud since he uses rasengan minato technique and shadow clones tobirama technique oh and sage mode hashirama technique (i knew its different sage mode but still) and luffy is a fraud since he uses haki (idk whonwas the first haki user) and joyboy devil fruit (its a jokr)
I mean Saitama is said to have broken his limiter, which could mean that he doesnt have a limit on his power, which could say that Saitama does beat Goku, atleast in my opinion.
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama grows exponentially in battle, just like Saiyans do and arguably he could hold a candle to some forms of Goku. But most OPM fans forget in this debate that Goku is the OG for growing from battle experiences, every form and technique keeps scaling higher with more hax and he has a vast headstart compared to Saitama in this field. Saitama's best feat is in the fight with Cosmic Garou, and that's below universal. SSG Goku alone at the beginning of DBS was universal+ with his battle with Beerus in BoG arc, and currently Goku has mastered Ultra Instinct in the manga with way more battle experience.
@@Bomboclat-521 When Goku sees that saitama is increasing in power he'll transform to blue or ultra instinct to beat him before he grows strong enough to be stronger then him
I once had a Demonslayer fan try and argue that Muzan could take Aizen, because Aizen doesn't have a special flower. Edit: How did the replies turn into a Saitama debate.
Thank GOD you aren't that fucking stupid anymore, also I swear.. A poll on twitter I found was saying Kenjaku loses to Yoriichi, I don't understand that man, Kenjaku has way higher attack and defense stats, and considering Yoriichi would be oneshotted by Muzan by his own fucking claim Kenjaku anti gravity would just smush his skull
Like bro oda has only given three people the title of worlds strongest in the entire series whitebeard world strongest man, kaido world strongest being and mihawk the world strongest swordsman. And that Fandom will swear up and down that mihawk is a fraud cuz he never fought anyone on screen seriously
The anime fan base is so bad. I hate to be considered part of it, which is why I try not to mention it. It is not just one piece fans. It is every anime fan base where a character has powers.
@SMG6-and dbz goku from the buu saga can scale multi galaxy level so he solos opm too plus goku base manga from the new chapter is easily stronger than ssjb from the golden frieza arc and ssjb goku from the golden frieza arc is basically high complex multiverse level
@@getnie6867I agree, especially around the time of gear five coming out in the anime but the later part of last year I think jjk where giving them a run for their money with toxicity too.
spoilers in chap 236 sukuna cut through space and time to bypass infinity and kill gojo,some sukuna fans have been saying he is universal ap(I even saw a comment saying he's boundless and I hope he's joking)
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658he's definitely not universal his space cutting is no joke tho can probably cut too tier character with is but sukuna lacks hard in the speed department when compare to other animes
After G5 was animated. Ive seen some of the worst takes ever. Like how G5 solos fiction and Toon force is their only proof they got. When luffy is still struggling with his verse.
One piece fan here. These people do not speak for all of us. The best chance anyone in the one piece world has is against Yamcha. Maybe krillin but no one in one piece is getting past the Saiba men.
Bc of 2 word Gear Five .....every community that gets a somewhat new peak Evolution or transformation dose this . A big reason why i hate Opm now . I love the comedy style and the jokes but. Dame after the Garou stuff happend the community was so Ass dude its not even funny how mutch Bs and Glazing came from them
@@gigadust3980 Yep, after Gear 5 Luffy dropped, OP fans started beefing with Dragonball fandom talking about "MUI V.S Gear 5 Luffy" and "who broke the Internet" more, when its a clear winner. MUI was watched live by thousands of watch parties in-person, it broke Crunchyroll's servers notoriously, and MUI Goku negs the OP verse with ease. OPM tried the same thing after Saitama's exponential growth feats against Cosmic Garou, but he is nowhere near Universal+ and MUI Goku is low multiversal already.
@@ibidknight so true dude . Also funny how crunchy roll had problems even though a big part of the community watch it in these big groups in publik lol .... just imagine the chaos if every singel persen watched it by themself 💀 rip
I’ve heard multiple One Piece fans say Luffy wins because his limit is his imagination and he can turn people into anything Not only are these mfs not watching One Piece, but they’re getting their information from die hard OnePiece shorts creators because I’ve seen the exact short they were talking about and it had 10s thousands of likes too
Факт. Он просто способен делать все резиновым и контролировать/использовать(как было с молнией). Поэтому он и самый "свободный" фрукт, поскольку все может стать оружием/защитой, а как ты это используешь зависит от воображения.
@@cory4163 Okay c’mon he literally destroyed an attack that was going to destroy an island that was the size of a large country, so large country to low continental. But the one that worries me is Luffy being Multiversal when he can’t even destroy a planet 💀😔🔥
Fun fact: Dragon ball earth is around the size of our solar system, which means saiyan saga vegeta almost destroyed 1.3 million of our earths with his galick gun
I am a one piece fan and I can confidently say that no one in the verse is even touching BULMA, she tanked a slap from Beerus, and has been able to bruise super Vegeta with a single slap, she completely and utterly stomps gear 5 luffy ☠️
I've heard that Muzan and Yoriichi speed blitz Dio and Jotaro before they use timestop. Like god damn demon slayer fans will do absolutely do anything to argue that people with funny breathing can hang with timestopping, diamond-breaking, lightspeed stands.
Только Джотаро обычный человек и все зависит от его реакции, если он не успеет активировать Стэнд, то он проигрывает. Так же как и Кира проигравший скорой помощи, хотя до этого перезаписывать реальность.
@@bananawithpajamas6379it depends on if we are talking about part 1 or the later parts. Tanjiro could beat phantom blood dio just not stardust crusaders dio.
Re: the "X can take Goku" arguments. One of the simplest things you can test is thus: At a powerlevel of 416, Goku could run Snake Way, a 1 million kilometer track, in 177 days. This means at a powerlevel of 416, Goku can run, at least, at 235 kilometers per hour, and that's on a twisty narrow path where he has to be worried that if he falls off he'll go to hell, not to mention do so continuously for six months straight, so he likely had times when he was running quite a bit faster down straight lines, and slowing down considerably when it got twisty. That's one of the most solid speed feats we have for Goku, and that's already an absolutely insane feat. For you imperial users out there, that's 146 miles per hour as a 'normal running speed' with vastly higher sprint speed. That's fast enough to run across an American Football Field in 2 seconds, and again, that's WAY slower than Goku's sprint speed. This is upper tier speed in most anime, and in DragonBall, this is so goddamn slow it's not even worth considering. How slow is it? Well, let me put it in perspective. Goku himself, after training with King Kai, would obtain an unspecified powerlevel that's somewhere between eight and nine thousand. He would, using this power, proceed to fly down Snake Way, all 1 million kilometers of it, in 1 day. That's a top speed (because he has to neither slow down nor worry about falling off) of 41666 kilometers per hour. This is before Kaioken is applied, as Goku did not use Kaioken at all during the flight back to Earth, and Kaioken can double or even triple his power, strength and speed included, giving him a, presumable, true top speed of nearly 125000 kilometers an hour. To give you a perspective of how fsat this is, this is fast enough to get to our moon in a little over 3 hours, and would likely take less because once he's in space he's no longer facing air resistance so he can accelerate more and hold a better speed. And to make matters worse, after 100x gravity training, Goku raises his base powerlevel to 180000, roughly 22 and a half times stronger. Now, we know that speed doesn't increase linearly with powerlevel, but in fact, it increases quadratically, since Goku becoming roughly 20 times stronger resulted in a x177 increase in speed. But for the sake of argument, we'll make the increase linear as it makes the calc easier. This puts Goku at a base speed of 937485 kilometers per hour, pre Kaioken. Since at this point in time he can use Kaioken up to x10 comfortably, we can assume his top speed at this point in time is a little under 9.4 million kilometers per hour, or, roughly enough to go for a lap around the world in about 1 second. And then this is when things start toget absolutely bonkers because the next powerup is the zenkai he gets before Freeza, which takes him to 3 million base powerlevel, a 16.6 times increase in power, setting his base top speed at 15562251 kilometers per hour, and, with Kaioken x20 being his new limit after this, a presumable limit of about 311.2 million kilometers an hour. How fast is this? This is enough for Goku to get to the Sun and come back in an hour. And guess what? This isn't even his final form for this arc, because Super Saiyan Goku has a x50 multiplier, setting his top speed as a Super Saiyan at roughly 778 million kilometers an hour. This is TWO THIRDS of the way to light speed. Yeah. Anyone that tells you "muh favorite anime character can beat up Goku" has absolutely no fucking idea wtf they're talking about. This is just speed, even - we're not even talking about the fact that regarding strength and durability, Goku would basically just be standing there letting Kaidou hit him and not even realize he's being hit from how weak the strikes would be.
It's not so much about Shinji's powers being bad, but that Kubo did him dirty in the writing. He SHOULD be among the top of the captains, since he was already considered strong before he got his hollow boost... yet, we consistently see him get his ass handed to him without ever really getting a major win. The best thing he's done so far is using Bankai to take out a group of fodder Quincies, and even that was an anime-only scene.
@@lo4tr yo ain't nothing that the poor man can do he got Aizen match ups twice😂 and with Bambi that one was dumb, I hope he and all the Visoreds do shit in cour 3 against Gerard!
@@lo4tr do you know how many*fodder* they had that he took out they were stated to have like 100,000 or more*fodder* why do you think kubo added it the manga was rushed at this point that's why he added the anime scene to show how all the *fodder* completely vanishing in the manga by the later half of it
Finally another youtuber with common sense. It’s crazy that if I said this, people would’ve called me bias since i’m not munch of a fan of One Piece. But now we have someone that’s not a One Piece hater WITH common sense. You just got another subscriber. W
@Kakarot432 But you barely know anything about One Piece or One Piece characters. One Piece has countless hacks that would be effective against Dragon Ball characters. Armament Haki - Using your will to increase your attack and defensive power. Ryo Haki - An advanced application of Armament Haki that allows you to use Armament Haki as a projectile which can be used to attack someone from inside, bypassing all defenses. Observation Haki - Boosts your senses, allowing you to sense basically everything and increases your ability to process what you sense. Future Sight Haki - An advanced application of Observation Haki that allows you to see the future. Conquerors Haki - In its base form, it knocks out those with weaker wills and weakens those that don't get knocked out. Logia devil fruits - Allows you to avoid attacks as your body is an element, allowing you to part your body to make attacks go through. And that's just a few.
@@boredfangerrude8759 Sorry for the yapping. I know that some of the characters that he mentioned from One Piece are pretty powerful. Now here’s the thing. Whether you like it or not, (from the video) nobody from One Piece has BLOWN UP A PLANET. Krillin is soloing One Piece because he can destroy at least one planet. It doesn’t matter how op an ability is from One Piece. Even if Krillin can’t beat Kaido (which isn’t possible) he’s still can’t beat Goku. Call me a Dragon Ball meat rider idc. Goku is making Kaido into Koren BBQ. Also it doesn’t matter if you have knowledge of One Piece. Most of the cast from Dragon Ball is destroying One Piece. P.S. i’m curious. What is he wrong on so much?
"Kaido would give goku a run for his money" Are we talkin bout the same One piece and Dragon ball, Cuz from wat I've seen Goku back in dbz 1 shots anyone and everyone in One piece
goku without a ki barrier gets soloed by pebbles. acoq is durability neg, that shit would one shot him. only thing is that hed have to hit goku which would be impossible. so goku wins
@@bullettime1116 goku whilst of guard tanked hakai, goku's durability isn't low as u think the only reason u see him taking any sort of dmg I'd cuz of plot, Btw hakai is more potent than death and can be argued to be concept erasure and base goku tanked it for a while, Also wat ur saying would require the one piece characters to sneak up on goku whilst he's not paying attention maybe eating on somthing dven then goku can sense them, also that durability negation u speak of won't work on beings that hav much higher power as goku can just overpower it with his, And on top of this that's assuming we're using any goku before the events of buu saga and ofc not super goku cuz he's higher dimensional meaning he jus can't take dmg from op characters
@@bamboteevee yada yada, that hakai feat was with his ki barrier up, goku without it is literally getting pieced up by basic bullets and rocks, i dont understand why you dont get it. and the whole argument is with kid goku, why are you bringing up any damn character in db after og db
@@bullettime1116 goku without ki isn't a thing 💀, Ki is life energy so saying goku without ki would mean goku doesn't exist 💀, Wake up and open ur eyes where was the barrier when Frieza literally put him in the hakai when he was giving a speech to the assassin's, Do better next time, we get that ur a One piece fan and that's cool but don't forget who their daddy is
@@bullettime1116 the fact the characters get injured whilst heavily suppressing themselves and then getting injured is a stupid point ur making cuz no they can't get pierced by regular bullets he was caught off guard whilst heavily suppressed and it still bounced off so ur point? The fact u don't k ow how ki works already says it all and how u don't know anything about db
The man that think that kaido can deafet goku only mean that people are easy to impress with animation, it happend with demon slayer, it happened with one punch man and now one piece
My favorite delusional argument from OP dick riders is that the OP world is much bigger than the actual Earth, and that makes island-level feats planetary level, completely ignoring DB’s universes are much bigger than our own and Earth is considered a rather small planet by Freeza.
And btw, I say this as a fan of One Piece myself. Like, I love the show, but I cannot ignore the dumbasses that say nonsense like “Sanji is light speed” or “Gear 5 Luffy beats SSJ Goku”.
They also say the op planet is the size of the sun or larger, and therefore they're star level. Idk if the size thing is true, but even if it were, size is far from the only factor in that
Crazy that Toji wasn't successful in fully killing Gojo since he went for the throat down to his torso, stabbed him in the leg three times and finished it off with a stab to headspace. That was most definitely a fatality.
Excited to see an early video :) wait... kaido give goku a run for his money. nah. I am a die hard one piece fan but i know i know limits on who can beat goku
I say form 1 frieza would have a hard time it be even. Frieza claimed to be able to destroy the planet but never destroyed said planet especially not in one blow. The thing is its not just the toon force what makes luffy strong its his 3 haki's So he has advanced observation haki he can predict the future so he knows what attack you are gonna use before you do dodge and do whatever. Luffy can move faster then the speed of light in base form his gears make him even faster gear 5 is ridiculous. Advanced aramanet with the Ryou which destroys the body on the inside as well as acts as a extremely durable armor (Blunt force attacks already don't work on luffy no matter how hard you hit him (You need haki to do so) He is immune to lightning based attacks he also has been seem to be either extremely resistant or immune to fire based attacks as his whole hand he makes go on fire. How high he falls his base fruit stops him from taking damage adding his armament haki makes him even moreso. Finally conquers haki which is the strongest of the 3 the ability to sense everyones emotions and all those around you which also allows you to overpower their will and they will be rendered either dead or unconscious. This conquers haki can be infused in armament haki attacks to make them even stronger. Now luffy has an awakening which his fruit is son goku the monkey king based off that God. He has a god ability his happens to be toonforce. Which when we see luffy was able to bend reality to his will. Luffy was able to Change his size to ridiculous portions have his body parts separate around everywhere, grab the ground when Kaido shoot his blast breath and use it to reflect that attack back at kaido. If the ground stayed normal that blast had gone straight through it. Kaido also got used as a jump rope when luffy went Gear 5 he was literally fodder when luffy went that mode luffy had zero trouble against him. So if frieze did a death ray/beam. Luffy would literally grabs the ground and reflect it back which when luffy reflected Kaido's attack the move went back at kaido faster then when kaido shoot it originally. Also luffy would predict the future and see it coming. Frieza form 1 was hella cocky and played with Goku you don't think Frieza would be with luffy he be moreso. I think luffy now would lose to current Frieza 100% however luffy can put up an even fight with form 1 even super saiyan 2 I think maybe 3 but that maybe is a stretch. Yes I did watch dragon ball as well.
The worst hot take I’ve heard is exactly like kaido vs goku he said the reason he wins because he can turn into a dragon and a dragon is the reason goku is alive
People gotta realize just because a you love a character and he isn’t stronger than another character from a different anime, it doesn’t take away you still like them
I dunno about that one, people be glazing Kratos so much his skin should be whiter than when he first murked his wife and child. I've heard some powerscalers say he's around country level, which seems somewhat fair with the shit Gojo has
Goku solos the one piece verse,He doesn't even need to use his powers,he just has to sneeze to end the whole series.Dudes talking about Kaido like he is some kind of universal destruction threat level
Okay but to be fair, like a good 80% of the shit that Larry from That One Piece Talk brings up is just absolute garbage takes. This is the least shocking "worst take" addition ever.
Gojo is so strong that Sukana HAD to... *Spoiler Shield* steal Megumi's body and technique in order to beat him and even then he would have lost had he not saved fully incarnating as his ace in the hole
as a person who prefers one piece over db ive heard takes like ''this one piece guy can beat krillin'' which is not true at all in super krillin literally almost hit this mf with a destructo disk while goku was using blue krillin cake walks the verse even yamcha is enough as he also trained hard
this stuff crazy bruh...if you gonna power scale at least watch both animes bruh and dont be bias during takes cuz u just gonna be called a meat rider or a glazer. W video tho it was hella funny to see all these trash takes keep up the good work!
All I learned from this video is that db fans literally are insane to have conversations with. The power creep is crazy in the show and unless you can blow up planets they will start frothing at the mouth. Made me feel good when death battle came out and we saw goku vs Superman argument finally put to rest.
It’s not just about blowing up planets that’s the least. Most of them are exceptional fighters with ridiculous speed, techniques and the things they can do with ki is ridiculous. They’ve also had the capacity to negate a lot of haxed moves with ki like Vegito beating up majin buu as a candy bar while having a conscious.
Bro you dumb? The video literally starts with one piece fan claiming kaido can beat goku with the RUclipsr debunking it. But yeah sure since according to you dbz fans are the problem.
I apologize if I'm wrong but it seems like you're just hating, cuz that's how powerscaling works, if you have higher AP, durability, speed etc you'll win, that's it Also using deathbattle as an authority to decide what's right or wrong is straight up wrong.
One thing I want to mention is Baryon Mode Naruto, yea he may get fucked up by alot of them mc, but his power also drains their life so technically he can win or lead it to a stalemate if he can stall enough
Bro I had a whole debate with a one piece fan saying that luffy one shots goku and the debate lasted 3days until I finished it by saying that the hell he gonna do if goku uses a a spirit bomb or he uses ssj god and stops luffy with his ki and beats him up will luffy can’t do anything 😂
Hot take: 95% of moves in DB are unoriginal, it's a different Ki blast with a different colour in a different shape. Tell me whet the difference is between a Kienzan and a Makankosappo outside those things.
As a one piece fan and a one piece enjoyer, these guys DO NOT represent us in any shape or form. i personally think that no one piece character can hang with characters that are high planetary or above WHATSOEVER. krillin solos all of one piece 100x over while holding back.
I'm a huge fan of: Attack on titan, one piece, fma, hxh, jojo's, dragonball, mob psycho 100, and bleach I love them ALL equally cuz each one is special in it's own way and comparing them is kinda ridiculous cuz the powerscaling greatly varies from one to the other..
3:52 as a Shinji stan...Kubo did ALL the visoreds dirty...2 captain lvl visoreds couldnt take on mask d masquline but Renji shows up and no diffs him...the only time ive had a problem with bleach powerscaling(but it was Renjis much needed W so idk)
I think Jogo is a fraud, but not that kind of fraud. A lot of people think he is weak because he loses every fight he gets into, and loses very badly at that. But This volcano head tries to pull up on Gojo, not once but twice, and then went after Sukuna. Im surprised he lived that long with the choices he makes
Its funny how folks think luffy can beat goku or frieza or well anyone near these two powerscale wise. Lets assume he does beat frieza like vegeta did and he blew up the earth with a single tap of his hand knowing he could claim the last laughs. It would be amazing clock to watch luffy final countdown battle.
Saitama Vs Goku AT LEAST makes sense since both characters are already op, but scaling Goku against One piece characters is just a brain-dead thing to say
The problem with anime fans a lot of them think a character is only good because they're strong, for example Guts is one of my favorite characters of all time and most shounen protags could body him with a finger that doesn't take away from his character at all. Frankly its kinda cringe and childish grow up.
Dude if Gear 5 Luffy can still be hurt by slashing attacks (Kaido proved this), then Frieza literally just can seen those Destructio Discs that he can control and rip Luffy to shreads. Hell, even a Death Beam to the heart is enough Luffy ain't surviving that
What are some of the worst hot takes you've heard? Drop them down below, cause Ima use some for the next video
Omfg I can’t explain how many times I’ve heard “luffy solos the entire anime verse” because gear 5 is “toon force”
Someone said deku and asta both beat g5 luffy
one of my friends told me that muzan solos frieza cuz his hax (regen) are supossedly better than frieza's durability since frizea can't heal on his own
I heard someone on tiktok say luffy speedbiltz absorbed soul king Yhwach
another saids sukuna is 8d due to
spoilers
cutting through space and time to bypass gojo's infinity and solos the Big 3
So Goku is a fraud for using other people's moves/techniques? Then i guess any anime character that trains and use movements other characters have used prior is a fraud.
naruto is a fraud since he uses rasengan minato technique and shadow clones tobirama technique oh and sage mode hashirama technique (i knew its different sage mode but still) and luffy is a fraud since he uses haki (idk whonwas the first haki user) and joyboy devil fruit (its a jokr)
Fr fraud has lost all of it's meaning
@@Iamstaringatursearchhistoryand also luffy uses nika’s powers through his devil fruit
oh yeah he did invent techniques btw like god bind, the super saiyan forms (3), ssb, dragon fist, stacking kaioken on forms
Ichigo is a fraud he only has 1 move 😮💨
there aint no way someone tried to argue gear 5 beats black frieza, actually absurd
bro especially luffy is MONKEY d luffy so he instantly loses
@@---....---- Ain't NO WAY
I wouldn't even try arguing Luffy beating Tailed Beast Mode Naruto. Naruto blasts out mini nukes like its nothing.
Gear 5 Luffy doesn't even beat yamcha or gojo XD
Luffy at his max is not close even to ssj namek goku
I once argued with someone who said Saitama beats Goku cause "one punch man is the name of the series. " hence he wins. Bro had me dead 😂
I mean Saitama is said to have broken his limiter, which could mean that he doesnt have a limit on his power, which could say that Saitama does beat Goku, atleast in my opinion.
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama is a watered down, walmart version of broly and we all know that ain`t enough to beat either goku or vegeta
@@Bomboclat-521 Saitama grows exponentially in battle, just like Saiyans do and arguably he could hold a candle to some forms of Goku. But most OPM fans forget in this debate that Goku is the OG for growing from battle experiences, every form and technique keeps scaling higher with more hax and he has a vast headstart compared to Saitama in this field. Saitama's best feat is in the fight with Cosmic Garou, and that's below universal. SSG Goku alone at the beginning of DBS was universal+ with his battle with Beerus in BoG arc, and currently Goku has mastered Ultra Instinct in the manga with way more battle experience.
@@Bomboclat-521 When Goku sees that saitama is increasing in power he'll transform to blue or ultra instinct to beat him before he grows strong enough to be stronger then him
@@elderllamastudios3214 they'll probably fight and have a good time then eat together
I once had a Demonslayer fan try and argue that Muzan could take Aizen, because Aizen doesn't have a special flower.
Edit: How did the replies turn into a Saitama debate.
that's crazy
Thank GOD you aren't that fucking stupid anymore, also I swear.. A poll on twitter I found was saying Kenjaku loses to Yoriichi, I don't understand that man, Kenjaku has way higher attack and defense stats, and considering Yoriichi would be oneshotted by Muzan by his own fucking claim Kenjaku anti gravity would just smush his skull
wild, aizen solos with just his presence alone.
I met a one piece fan that said that Luffy solos goku neg diff. Because apparently he can reality bend a nuke that can kill him 🤦
deadass i debated with a demon trash fan because they said tanjiro 1 shots mui goku💀 and they actually tried to defend it
I’m a one piece fan and even I agree that these hot takes are crazy💀
it makes us look weird lmao 💀💀💀💀
Stg bro like mf goku??? Ion even watch dragon ball unless I’m at a friends house BUT with the very few episodes/movies bro is CRACKED
@@randomaccount6215every anime fan or someone who at least KNOWS a bit of anime knows that goku absolutely stomps 💀 bro’s the face of anime basically
So true
@@Wano-Kunorimuru beats goku
What do you expect from the fandom that think shanks is not a swordman 💀
Like bro oda has only given three people the title of worlds strongest in the entire series
whitebeard world strongest man, kaido world strongest being and mihawk the world strongest swordsman. And that Fandom will swear up and down that mihawk is a fraud cuz he never fought anyone on screen seriously
He's a haki man tho 🤓☝️
Shanks is a strong asf dude who has a sword! Just like king isn’t a swordmen or big mom
@@jotaktessier7108 what other ability that shanks have? King and big mom has a lot of ability that's not with sword
@@jotaktessier7108does shanks have a special race? (ignoring the rat race) or does he have a df?
Black frieza is so unbelievably broken he could genuinely probably blow up a planet by blinking and some dude thought luffy would win
if Luffy is so strong then why did not he one shot someone like Kaido with just blinking?
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kfr he so broken but getting pressed by a cat
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kluffy gets solo’ed by roshi on his deathbed 😭
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kyour favorite mc is scared of a bomb that only blows up islands
That one piece talk always have the worst damn takes😂
I don’t like them I hate how they call themselves the “one piece talk” they shouldn’t represent the fandom. 😂
Agreed! Like have they never even seen a single dragon ball clip or picture??? Like goku is a universe threat like wtf are yall talking about
PICCOLO DAIMAOH WOULD SOLO MOST OF THE OP VERSE
@@thezoitosoldiermain Even he is overkill send Nappa since he can also blow up a planet
The anime fan base is so bad. I hate to be considered part of it, which is why I try not to mention it. It is not just one piece fans. It is every anime fan base where a character has powers.
I'm still on the "kaido would give goku a run for his money" 💀💀💀
Bro dun goof'd
What about Goku from the super Saiyan arc
@@mewowdab6903
That's over kill
Kid goku is the perfect power level for kaido, this may be an even match
@@darkmodeenjoyer3367that’s fair but i still see kaido losing
@@darkmodeenjoyer3367even kid goku is moon level+
It took like 7 seconds for me to think of the dragon fist after that podcast guy said “he has 0 techniques that are his own”
Does Bruce Lee's one inch punch Goku used against Golden Frieza count?
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9kno cuz that's from real life it has to be in verse
@@skibidip123 What about Spirit Bomb Absorption then, he may have learned Spirit Bomb from King Kai but he definitely never taught him to absorb it
@@DBLegendsGaming-i9k ye that counts and for ex super kamehameha
Or that energy landmine technique he used against Jiren
My favorite thing to show people is Piccolo casually blowing the moon. A reminder that this apparently was episode 8 of DBZ 💀.
Roshi did it in OG DragonBall and he was way weaker than demon king Picalo let alone Picalo 2.0
Im a massive one piece fan but i grew up with dragon ball, and those goku takes killed me
kid goku solos op verse even without moon
@SMG6-what are you talking about he said op not opm and yes kid goku solos op verse which is one piece
@SMG6-and dbz goku from the buu saga can scale multi galaxy level so he solos opm too plus goku base manga from the new chapter is easily stronger than ssjb from the golden frieza arc and ssjb goku from the golden frieza arc is basically high complex multiverse level
@SMG6-saitama is multi star level so goku ssj3 from dbz is clearly more than enough for opm
@@idk._.636just stop talking rn this gonna turn into another saitama vs Goku debate
One piece fans are the new dragon ball fans.
Nowadays DB are a lot more chiller, at least relative to one piece fans
True, op fans are the new toxicity fandom of anime
@@getnie6867 as a one piece fan believe it or not I agree with you
@@SauloSantos-tm2ls Thanks, i guess
@@getnie6867I agree, especially around the time of gear five coming out in the anime but the later part of last year I think jjk where giving them a run for their money with toxicity too.
@@felixowen2693 Don`t blame those poor jjk fans, their equivalent of zoro died in an offscreen, pathethic and unexpectedly bs way, cut them some slack
The jjk fandom has started glazing saying Sukuna solos fiction is the take I heard recently do to manga spoilers
spoilers
in chap 236 sukuna cut through space and time to bypass infinity and kill gojo,some sukuna fans have been saying he is universal ap(I even saw a comment saying he's boundless and I hope he's joking)
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658 ... bait used to be believable just ignore these clowns
Jjk fans are usually joking, don’t take it too seriously.
For me :
Jjk & OP : City level
Naruto : Little country level
DB : Universe level
@@thiminhhanhnguyen7658he's definitely not universal his space cutting is no joke tho can probably cut too tier character with is but sukuna lacks hard in the speed department when compare to other animes
@@twentyfivemelodythe downplay is insane
Jjk-planet to country
Naruto - star to solar system
Goku multiversal
After G5 was animated. Ive seen some of the worst takes ever. Like how G5 solos fiction and Toon force is their only proof they got. When luffy is still struggling with his verse.
They say some luffy > beerus but beerus has tf res
"No manga spoilers"
Well that was a fucking lie (black frieza)
Damn what’s with the one piece community suddenly wanting beef with anything that breathes?
One piece fan here. These people do not speak for all of us. The best chance anyone in the one piece world has is against Yamcha. Maybe krillin but no one in one piece is getting past the Saiba men.
Bc of 2 word Gear Five .....every community that gets a somewhat new peak Evolution or transformation dose this . A big reason why i hate Opm now . I love the comedy style and the jokes but. Dame after the Garou stuff happend the community was so Ass dude its not even funny how mutch Bs and Glazing came from them
hell nah yamcha is hella strong in the dbs manga@@grunger07
@@gigadust3980 Yep, after Gear 5 Luffy dropped, OP fans started beefing with Dragonball fandom talking about "MUI V.S Gear 5 Luffy" and "who broke the Internet" more, when its a clear winner. MUI was watched live by thousands of watch parties in-person, it broke Crunchyroll's servers notoriously, and MUI Goku negs the OP verse with ease. OPM tried the same thing after Saitama's exponential growth feats against Cosmic Garou, but he is nowhere near Universal+ and MUI Goku is low multiversal already.
@@ibidknight so true dude . Also funny how crunchy roll had problems even though a big part of the community watch it in these big groups in publik lol .... just imagine the chaos if every singel persen watched it by themself 💀 rip
Its a shame Vinland Saga wasnt brought up as an anime that carried 2023; its easily my aoty what a masterpiece
because aside from the whole "you dont have enemies" message, its just another shonen
AOT mid
No@@ajojofann
@@ajojofannVinland is a seinen
@@ajojofannVinland is a seinen
The Sakura vs Cell one 😂😂💀💀
Cell will just spawn 1 Cell Jr for her and call it a day
Sakura could lose to a handful of Saibamen 💀
@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Yep she would get Yamcha'd by the Saibamen.
@@CosmicGoku529 Looks like the trash is being disposed😂😂😂
She'd be WT lvl in DB
I’ve heard multiple One Piece fans say Luffy wins because his limit is his imagination and he can turn people into anything
Not only are these mfs not watching One Piece, but they’re getting their information from die hard OnePiece shorts creators because I’ve seen the exact short they were talking about and it had 10s thousands of likes too
Факт. Он просто способен делать все резиновым и контролировать/использовать(как было с молнией). Поэтому он и самый "свободный" фрукт, поскольку все может стать оружием/защитой, а как ты это используешь зависит от воображения.
And are we not going to acknowledge araley a gag character thats bodying vegeta but goku can put up a fight goku has gag resistance
There’s people who actually believe Luffy is multiversal and Deku is universal 💀
Is deku is probably not even country level lmao.
@@cory4163 Okay c’mon he literally destroyed an attack that was going to destroy an island that was the size of a large country, so large country to low continental. But the one that worries me is Luffy being Multiversal when he can’t even destroy a planet 💀😔🔥
Wtf Deku???? People are actually saying he's universal?
@@cory4163deku has conti scaling though
Actually saw someone arguing that Deku was Teleport level, AKA has instantaneous movement.
Thank you Olamasam for being a sane human being also I love one piece as a fan but I think that your statements are valid ain’t gonna lie.😂
Fun fact: Dragon ball earth is around the size of our solar system, which means saiyan saga vegeta almost destroyed 1.3 million of our earths with his galick gun
When Gear 5 finally got animated OP fans were like "G5 Luffy solos Goku, Superman etc" 😂😂 like bruh no he doesn't.
Sponge Bob>Anime
@@АнальныйФокусникwho the f invited this kid🤨🤨
@@maazahmeddawood9015 Боб для взрослых состоявшихся мужчин.
@@maazahmeddawood9015 He came to spit some facts in your face. You know Spongebob erased an entire galaxy by removing the string of it?
@@SolaireOfToastbut there are anime characters that can destroy multiple universes
Goku has dragon fist, I know it's non canon, but come on, that is an original move, and it's fire as hell.
I am a one piece fan and I can confidently say that no one in the verse is even touching BULMA, she tanked a slap from Beerus, and has been able to bruise super Vegeta with a single slap, she completely and utterly stomps gear 5 luffy ☠️
1:03 DANG, GOKU'S SKIN EVEN WHITER THAN FRIEZA'S ONE😭🙏🙏
I've heard that Muzan and Yoriichi speed blitz Dio and Jotaro before they use timestop. Like god damn demon slayer fans will do absolutely do anything to argue that people with funny breathing can hang with timestopping, diamond-breaking, lightspeed stands.
Только Джотаро обычный человек и все зависит от его реакции, если он не успеет активировать Стэнд, то он проигрывает. Так же как и Кира проигравший скорой помощи, хотя до этого перезаписывать реальность.
Bro Jojo stands erase, create, bend and mess with time, they even speed time and reset universes, Tanjiro cant come close to Jojo.
@@bananawithpajamas6379it depends on if we are talking about part 1 or the later parts. Tanjiro could beat phantom blood dio just not stardust crusaders dio.
i once heard
someone say that muzen is beating goku and i lost my shit ngl 😭
I’m a One Piece fan through and through, but these takes that Kaido can woop Goku is straight garbage. Never let these kinds of guys cook. Ever.
W for saying Renji is not a fraud 🔥
That dude who said a e slams ten tails madara is crazy! Madara wins extreme diff, ace doesn’t slam the hell?😂😂😂
Re: the "X can take Goku" arguments.
One of the simplest things you can test is thus:
At a powerlevel of 416, Goku could run Snake Way, a 1 million kilometer track, in 177 days.
This means at a powerlevel of 416, Goku can run, at least, at 235 kilometers per hour, and that's on a twisty narrow path where he has to be worried that if he falls off he'll go to hell, not to mention do so continuously for six months straight, so he likely had times when he was running quite a bit faster down straight lines, and slowing down considerably when it got twisty.
That's one of the most solid speed feats we have for Goku, and that's already an absolutely insane feat. For you imperial users out there, that's 146 miles per hour as a 'normal running speed' with vastly higher sprint speed. That's fast enough to run across an American Football Field in 2 seconds, and again, that's WAY slower than Goku's sprint speed. This is upper tier speed in most anime, and in DragonBall, this is so goddamn slow it's not even worth considering.
How slow is it?
Well, let me put it in perspective.
Goku himself, after training with King Kai, would obtain an unspecified powerlevel that's somewhere between eight and nine thousand. He would, using this power, proceed to fly down Snake Way, all 1 million kilometers of it, in 1 day. That's a top speed (because he has to neither slow down nor worry about falling off) of 41666 kilometers per hour. This is before Kaioken is applied, as Goku did not use Kaioken at all during the flight back to Earth, and Kaioken can double or even triple his power, strength and speed included, giving him a, presumable, true top speed of nearly 125000 kilometers an hour. To give you a perspective of how fsat this is, this is fast enough to get to our moon in a little over 3 hours, and would likely take less because once he's in space he's no longer facing air resistance so he can accelerate more and hold a better speed.
And to make matters worse, after 100x gravity training, Goku raises his base powerlevel to 180000, roughly 22 and a half times stronger. Now, we know that speed doesn't increase linearly with powerlevel, but in fact, it increases quadratically, since Goku becoming roughly 20 times stronger resulted in a x177 increase in speed. But for the sake of argument, we'll make the increase linear as it makes the calc easier.
This puts Goku at a base speed of 937485 kilometers per hour, pre Kaioken. Since at this point in time he can use Kaioken up to x10 comfortably, we can assume his top speed at this point in time is a little under 9.4 million kilometers per hour, or, roughly enough to go for a lap around the world in about 1 second.
And then this is when things start toget absolutely bonkers because the next powerup is the zenkai he gets before Freeza, which takes him to 3 million base powerlevel, a 16.6 times increase in power, setting his base top speed at 15562251 kilometers per hour, and, with Kaioken x20 being his new limit after this, a presumable limit of about 311.2 million kilometers an hour. How fast is this? This is enough for Goku to get to the Sun and come back in an hour.
And guess what? This isn't even his final form for this arc, because Super Saiyan Goku has a x50 multiplier, setting his top speed as a Super Saiyan at roughly 778 million kilometers an hour. This is TWO THIRDS of the way to light speed.
Yeah. Anyone that tells you "muh favorite anime character can beat up Goku" has absolutely no fucking idea wtf they're talking about. This is just speed, even - we're not even talking about the fact that regarding strength and durability, Goku would basically just be standing there letting Kaidou hit him and not even realize he's being hit from how weak the strikes would be.
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In Saiyan Saga we already had MFTL speeds since Raditz was confirmed to be Faster than light at his best.
@@bullettime1116 Sorry but he doesn't compare to the current strongest versions of Goku, its not even funny anymore.
@@TruePoseidon that was namek btw
That 1st guy is definitely smoker. Whatever he's on, I want some of.
An anime fraud would be King from OPM he has openly admited it to Saitama himself
0:10 Kaido is barely a continent level 😂
The most destructive power feat sakura can do is make a giant crater where as if cell taps the ground the planet blows up
The thing about shinji is if he uses his powers near his team they just gonna kill each other
It's not so much about Shinji's powers being bad, but that Kubo did him dirty in the writing. He SHOULD be among the top of the captains, since he was already considered strong before he got his hollow boost... yet, we consistently see him get his ass handed to him without ever really getting a major win. The best thing he's done so far is using Bankai to take out a group of fodder Quincies, and even that was an anime-only scene.
@@lo4tr yo ain't nothing that the poor man can do he got Aizen match ups twice😂
and with Bambi that one was dumb, I hope he and all the Visoreds do shit in cour 3 against Gerard!
@@lo4tr do you know how many*fodder* they had that he took out they were stated to have like 100,000 or more*fodder* why do you think kubo added it the manga was rushed at this point that's why he added the anime scene to show how all the *fodder* completely vanishing in the manga by the later half of it
you gon make it far i can tell 💪
Those first two guys do not speak for us gang😭🙏 disassociate me with them please dawg😪(I love your content btw)
Finally another youtuber with common sense. It’s crazy that if I said this, people would’ve called me bias since i’m not munch of a fan of One Piece. But now we have someone that’s not a One Piece hater WITH common sense. You just got another subscriber. W
He is wrong on so much though...
@@boredfangerrude8759 Where where the fuck is he wrong i'm a hardcore DBZ fan and i know the limits of most of these characters he's right af
@Kakarot432 But you barely know anything about One Piece or One Piece characters. One Piece has countless hacks that would be effective against Dragon Ball characters.
Armament Haki - Using your will to increase your attack and defensive power.
Ryo Haki - An advanced application of Armament Haki that allows you to use Armament Haki as a projectile which can be used to attack someone from inside, bypassing all defenses.
Observation Haki - Boosts your senses, allowing you to sense basically everything and increases your ability to process what you sense.
Future Sight Haki - An advanced application of Observation Haki that allows you to see the future.
Conquerors Haki - In its base form, it knocks out those with weaker wills and weakens those that don't get knocked out.
Logia devil fruits - Allows you to avoid attacks as your body is an element, allowing you to part your body to make attacks go through.
And that's just a few.
@@boredfangerrude8759
Sorry for the yapping.
I know that some of the characters that he mentioned from One Piece are pretty powerful. Now here’s the thing. Whether you like it or not, (from the video) nobody from One Piece has BLOWN UP A PLANET.
Krillin is soloing One Piece because he can destroy at least one planet. It doesn’t matter how op an ability is from One Piece. Even if Krillin can’t beat Kaido (which isn’t possible) he’s still can’t beat Goku. Call me a Dragon Ball meat rider idc. Goku is making Kaido into Koren BBQ.
Also it doesn’t matter if you have knowledge of One Piece. Most of the cast from Dragon Ball is destroying One Piece.
P.S. i’m curious. What is he wrong on so much?
Oh and thx for not being rude.
2:33 , as one piece fan who consider one piece a master piece I assure you they don't speak on our behalf they just lost some brain cells
"Kaido would give goku a run for his money"
Are we talkin bout the same One piece and Dragon ball,
Cuz from wat I've seen Goku back in dbz 1 shots anyone and everyone in One piece
goku without a ki barrier gets soloed by pebbles. acoq is durability neg, that shit would one shot him. only thing is that hed have to hit goku which would be impossible. so goku wins
@@bullettime1116 goku whilst of guard tanked hakai, goku's durability isn't low as u think the only reason u see him taking any sort of dmg I'd cuz of plot,
Btw hakai is more potent than death and can be argued to be concept erasure and base goku tanked it for a while,
Also wat ur saying would require the one piece characters to sneak up on goku whilst he's not paying attention maybe eating on somthing dven then goku can sense them, also that durability negation u speak of won't work on beings that hav much higher power as goku can just overpower it with his,
And on top of this that's assuming we're using any goku before the events of buu saga and ofc not super goku cuz he's higher dimensional meaning he jus can't take dmg from op characters
@@bamboteevee yada yada, that hakai feat was with his ki barrier up, goku without it is literally getting pieced up by basic bullets and rocks, i dont understand why you dont get it. and the whole argument is with kid goku, why are you bringing up any damn character in db after og db
@@bullettime1116 goku without ki isn't a thing 💀,
Ki is life energy so saying goku without ki would mean goku doesn't exist 💀,
Wake up and open ur eyes where was the barrier when Frieza literally put him in the hakai when he was giving a speech to the assassin's,
Do better next time, we get that ur a One piece fan and that's cool but don't forget who their daddy is
@@bullettime1116 the fact the characters get injured whilst heavily suppressing themselves and then getting injured is a stupid point ur making cuz no they can't get pierced by regular bullets he was caught off guard whilst heavily suppressed and it still bounced off so ur point?
The fact u don't k ow how ki works already says it all and how u don't know anything about db
If i hear another "muzan solo Saitama" im gonna break in their houses
The man that think that kaido can deafet goku only mean that people are easy to impress with animation, it happend with demon slayer, it happened with one punch man and now one piece
bro is so effortlessly funny
Thanks bro
Love your channel bro, late happy new year
Happy late new year to you too
My favorite delusional argument from OP dick riders is that the OP world is much bigger than the actual Earth, and that makes island-level feats planetary level, completely ignoring DB’s universes are much bigger than our own and Earth is considered a rather small planet by Freeza.
And btw, I say this as a fan of One Piece myself. Like, I love the show, but I cannot ignore the dumbasses that say nonsense like “Sanji is light speed” or “Gear 5 Luffy beats SSJ Goku”.
They also say the op planet is the size of the sun or larger, and therefore they're star level. Idk if the size thing is true, but even if it were, size is far from the only factor in that
The word "fraud" has lost all meaning. I be seeing calling Gojo and Deku a fraud 💀
Crazy that Toji wasn't successful in fully killing Gojo since he went for the throat down to his torso, stabbed him in the leg three times and finished it off with a stab to headspace. That was most definitely a fatality.
Excited to see an early video :) wait... kaido give goku a run for his money. nah. I am a die hard one piece fan but i know i know limits on who can beat goku
Frieza only needs form 1 to win against Luffy gear 5
I say form 1 frieza would have a hard time it be even. Frieza claimed to be able to destroy the planet but never destroyed said planet especially not in one blow. The thing is its not just the toon force what makes luffy strong its his 3 haki's So he has advanced observation haki he can predict the future so he knows what attack you are gonna use before you do dodge and do whatever. Luffy can move faster then the speed of light in base form his gears make him even faster gear 5 is ridiculous. Advanced aramanet with the Ryou which destroys the body on the inside as well as acts as a extremely durable armor (Blunt force attacks already don't work on luffy no matter how hard you hit him (You need haki to do so) He is immune to lightning based attacks he also has been seem to be either extremely resistant or immune to fire based attacks as his whole hand he makes go on fire. How high he falls his base fruit stops him from taking damage adding his armament haki makes him even moreso. Finally conquers haki which is the strongest of the 3 the ability to sense everyones emotions and all those around you which also allows you to overpower their will and they will be rendered either dead or unconscious. This conquers haki can be infused in armament haki attacks to make them even stronger. Now luffy has an awakening which his fruit is son goku the monkey king based off that God. He has a god ability his happens to be toonforce. Which when we see luffy was able to bend reality to his will. Luffy was able to Change his size to ridiculous portions have his body parts separate around everywhere, grab the ground when Kaido shoot his blast breath and use it to reflect that attack back at kaido. If the ground stayed normal that blast had gone straight through it. Kaido also got used as a jump rope when luffy went Gear 5 he was literally fodder when luffy went that mode luffy had zero trouble against him. So if frieze did a death ray/beam. Luffy would literally grabs the ground and reflect it back which when luffy reflected Kaido's attack the move went back at kaido faster then when kaido shoot it originally. Also luffy would predict the future and see it coming. Frieza form 1 was hella cocky and played with Goku you don't think Frieza would be with luffy he be moreso. I think luffy now would lose to current Frieza 100% however luffy can put up an even fight with form 1 even super saiyan 2 I think maybe 3 but that maybe is a stretch. Yes I did watch dragon ball as well.
Once argued with a kid who claimed that the mc from highschool dxd beats goku
It's weird but it's true, Issei is beyond multiversal
The worst hot take I’ve heard is exactly like kaido vs goku he said the reason he wins because he can turn into a dragon and a dragon is the reason goku is alive
LIKE BRO THEY ARENT EVEN THE SAME DRAGON NOT EVEN CLOSE
Love the content, but I feel these videos could definitely be stretched out to 15 mins of greatness
Yea that's what I was lowkey thinking too
People gotta realize just because a you love a character and he isn’t stronger than another character from a different anime, it doesn’t take away you still like them
I have now lost my last 3 remaining brain cells
bro the gojo foreshadowing had me weak
A hot take I saw recently is Gojo can beat kratos
💀💀💀
I dunno about that one, people be glazing Kratos so much his skin should be whiter than when he first murked his wife and child. I've heard some powerscalers say he's around country level, which seems somewhat fair with the shit Gojo has
Island-country character vs universal-multiversal character.
Goku solos the one piece verse,He doesn't even need to use his powers,he just has to sneeze to end the whole series.Dudes talking about Kaido like he is some kind of universal destruction threat level
6:17 you have to keep in mind how long aot has been airing. I don’t even consider aot to be on my top 10 but it still kinda did help carry 2023 imo
Also the instant transmission kamehameha dude was the pioneer for that
cant believe that people call buggy d. goat a fraud
as a one piece fan, these people are delusional af
There should be a prison for hot takes like that and all those people should be in it and absolutely not allowed to access the internet
They DO NOT represent us
Goku accidentally kills kaido
How kaido beating goku when he loses to krillen💀
Okay but to be fair, like a good 80% of the shit that Larry from That One Piece Talk brings up is just absolute garbage takes. This is the least shocking "worst take" addition ever.
Sometimes people forget that its just an animated show made with the purpose to earn money and for us to just have fun 😭
Gojo is so strong that Sukana HAD to...
*Spoiler Shield*
steal Megumi's body and technique in order to beat him and even then he would have lost had he not saved fully incarnating as his ace in the hole
as a person who prefers one piece over db ive heard takes like ''this one piece guy can beat krillin'' which is not true at all in super krillin literally almost hit this mf with a destructo disk while goku was using blue krillin cake walks the verse even yamcha is enough as he also trained hard
This is why Kirillin solos that verse make them mad 😂😂
this stuff crazy bruh...if you gonna power scale at least watch both animes bruh and dont be bias during takes cuz u just gonna be called a meat rider or a glazer. W video tho it was hella funny to see all these trash takes keep up the good work!
All I learned from this video is that db fans literally are insane to have conversations with. The power creep is crazy in the show and unless you can blow up planets they will start frothing at the mouth. Made me feel good when death battle came out and we saw goku vs Superman argument finally put to rest.
It’s not just about blowing up planets that’s the least. Most of them are exceptional fighters with ridiculous speed, techniques and the things they can do with ki is ridiculous. They’ve also had the capacity to negate a lot of haxed moves with ki like Vegito beating up majin buu as a candy bar while having a conscious.
And in the second one having Superman fry Goku's brain (Ugh, iMpoSsIble tHpoiLAh) for an extra ''FU'' cause the screamin' monkeys hadn't had enough
Bro you dumb? The video literally starts with one piece fan claiming kaido can beat goku with the RUclipsr debunking it.
But yeah sure since according to you dbz fans are the problem.
I apologize if I'm wrong but it seems like you're just hating, cuz that's how powerscaling works, if you have higher AP, durability, speed etc you'll win, that's it
Also using deathbattle as an authority to decide what's right or wrong is straight up wrong.
@@monjikhechini9724 Nah, we just laughing at how obnoxious the toxic DBZtards are and how the battle really rattled 'em
One thing I want to mention is Baryon Mode Naruto, yea he may get fucked up by alot of them mc, but his power also drains their life so technically he can win or lead it to a stalemate if he can stall enough
“Not one move that he uses is his.” Ahem, the Dragon Fist
3:48 ong bro shinji my fav vizard and the treatment he received in tybw was dirty af
Bro I had a whole debate with a one piece fan saying that luffy one shots goku and the debate lasted 3days until I finished it by saying that the hell he gonna do if goku uses a a spirit bomb or he uses ssj god and stops luffy with his ki and beats him up will luffy can’t do anything 😂
Hot take: 95% of moves in DB are unoriginal, it's a different Ki blast with a different colour in a different shape. Tell me whet the difference is between a Kienzan and a Makankosappo outside those things.
Its crazy that someones believes Ace who lost to BumBeard has a shot against Madara
As a one piece fan and a one piece enjoyer, these guys DO NOT represent us in any shape or form. i personally think that no one piece character can hang with characters that are high planetary or above WHATSOEVER. krillin solos all of one piece 100x over while holding back.
I'm a huge fan of:
Attack on titan, one piece, fma, hxh, jojo's, dragonball, mob psycho 100, and bleach
I love them ALL equally cuz each one is special in it's own way and comparing them is kinda ridiculous cuz the powerscaling greatly varies from one to the other..
5:27 to 5:32
“One red nearly broke this mans back”
3:52 as a Shinji stan...Kubo did ALL the visoreds dirty...2 captain lvl visoreds couldnt take on mask d masquline but Renji shows up and no diffs him...the only time ive had a problem with bleach powerscaling(but it was Renjis much needed W so idk)
Bro there's these group of ppl who generally think the upper moons can hang with a 15F+ sukuna
I think Jogo is a fraud, but not that kind of fraud.
A lot of people think he is weak because he loses every fight he gets into, and loses very badly at that.
But This volcano head tries to pull up on Gojo, not once but twice, and then went after Sukuna.
Im surprised he lived that long with the choices he makes
There was this one dude tgat said Jotaro (JoJos) has universal strenght and infinite speed💀💀💀
ok but to be fair any jojo mc after like part 6 one taps goku
Johnny with Tusk act 4 can, but not Johnny nor Tusk is nearly fast enough to hit Goku
Its funny how folks think luffy can beat goku or frieza or well anyone near these two powerscale wise.
Lets assume he does beat frieza like vegeta did and he blew up the earth with a single tap of his hand knowing he could claim the last laughs. It would be amazing clock to watch luffy final countdown battle.
Kaido is weaker than Krillin from Saiyan saga.
I remember someone tried to say that itachi could beat aizen and said that tsukuyomi was stronger than kyoka suigetsu
Saitama Vs Goku AT LEAST makes sense since both characters are already op, but scaling Goku against One piece characters is just a brain-dead thing to say
goku is a fraud?? i cnt my brain cells are officially fried
The thing about blowing up earth is still happening but one piece earth is like idk how many times bigger then normal but still can be blown up xd
Just discovered your channel can’t wait to see it grow love the vids
The problem with anime fans a lot of them think a character is only good because they're strong, for example Guts is one of my favorite characters of all time and most shounen protags could body him with a finger that doesn't take away from his character at all. Frankly its kinda cringe and childish grow up.
The ONLY thing ace has going for him against Madara is being a logia. But Madara has plenty of hax, so idk.
Dude if Gear 5 Luffy can still be hurt by slashing attacks (Kaido proved this), then Frieza literally just can seen those Destructio Discs that he can control and rip Luffy to shreads. Hell, even a Death Beam to the heart is enough Luffy ain't surviving that
As a proud one piece fan, I find these takes about goku delusional as f**k