I was disappointed with the performance of the Dakotas. I have an ulterra and after two trips I decided to remove those batteries only to find out the tops and sides had swelling. Never had issues with my ulterra not wanting to stow away. With other batteries my ulterra would stow once the voltage dropped. Not with Dakotas, I was stuck doing the manual stow. Dakotas only lasted about 4 hrs, with speed settings on my trolling motor at 4. In my personal oppinion, only good thing about the batteries is weight, compared to other chemistries. There is a much lighter lithium out there and smaller too and I'm getting 2 trips out of them. As for warranty, I'm getting a new pair of batteries here shortly but will not use on my boat. I'll give them a try on the RV.
This past Friday I ran my Terrova 24 V with 2 group 31's from 9:30 PM until 6:30 AM on the #5 setting. Battery voltage read 10 V at the end of my trip. I'm satisfied with 9ish hours on my Duracell 31's
I just installed the Terranova 24v 80lb thrust on my 1994 Nitro 170dc bass boat. The biggest batteries I can install are group size 27. I spend most of my time trolling. I am worried the batteries won't last long. I am torn into buying a kicker motor to provide most of the thrust and trolling motor to basically steer, which shouldn't use much power. I also have the NOCO 3 bank 10 amp charger. I was thinking of getting a small portable generator like the Honda 2200 watt model to charge them while I am fishing. What do you think about that?
@@bobczz3919 Not a good idea to charge and use at the same time, could create circuit breaker problems or send voltage back into the power head or circuit board of the trolling motor. Make sure you do your homework before attempting that
I appreciate your information. And it pretty much jibes with what I found out. I even wrote an article to summarize it all. There’s nothing to hate about the lithium batteries … except their price and that will eventually come down… We hope. They do what a battery is supposed to do. All the hype, all the glowing praise - maybe it’s worthwhile, but primarily their weight is what makes a difference, if we’re to be honest. Now me, Im lucky; I get all of the 55 and 110 amp hour AGM batteries I can want for free. I can bank them together anyway I choose. So lithium’s aren’t really in the future for my needs. But for those who can pay for em, they do the job at half the weight. That’s a plus. Thanks again for what you do. David
a cleat within arms reach of another cleat is just about right. thing is in the middle where you get in and out get the pop-up cleats that way your not catching pant legs, shoestrings etc on.
Interesting set up Mike, two things that make these Dakota batteries worth it, the lighter weight and warranty. Well I guess 3 thing last being how long they last on charge cycles. Being that said going to an electric outboard is looking more positive as long as there is room for the quality required on the boat to power a equivalent 50hp outboard someday for the average mariner. Currently the cost is way out of the ballpark except rich folk but like everything else the price will come down. It's only a matter of time before gas motors will not be sold anymore. I believe vintage motors will still be around as is but a conversion kit to power these classics may be needed to keep these around forever hopefully
Looking up the amp draw of the trolling motor, it can put about 25 amps at medium speed (I would guess speed 5 on your trolling motor), which with your 108ah of capacity on the Dakotas gives 4.32 hours of run time. Seeing about 5 hours at 4.5 speed, that lines up pretty good to the rated amp hour. Just kind of sucks that it is near $1,000 for the batteries, but I guess if they last 10 years, that is pretty cheap in the long run.
I just installed the Terranova 24v 80lb thrust on my 1994 Nitro 170dc bass boat. The biggest batteries I can install are group size 27. I spend most of my time trolling. I am worried the batteries won't last long. I am torn into buying a kicker motor to provide most of the thrust and trolling motor to basically steer, which shouldn't use much power. I also have the NOCO 3 bank 10 amp charger. I was thinking of getting a small portable generator like the Honda 2200 watt model to charge them while I am fishing. What do you think about that?
If you troll to hold a speed of 1.5 - 1.8mph they will go about 5 hours. I you just use the trolling motor to navigate around the shoreline while casting for large mouth, you can go two days. Generator for overnight charges is a good idea.
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina Thank you for the information. Yes, I just ordered a small portable Honda 2000 watt generator to charge the batteries where I don't have access to AC power. I went fishing 2 days ago for the first time with my new Terranova. I trolled pretty much all day from 8am to 6pm and still had power left. I kept the speed control around 3 position. I was very impressed it lasted that long.
Question for you sir. I just did the water pump on my 79 evinrude 35hp. And came across and extra object that didn’t come with the new full kit that I purchased. Can’t find it on an diagram and was wondering if you might could help.?
Mike the wire that you used, 14 gauge, for the rear main battery looked like non marine solid core wire. I always use tinned multi strand marine wires. FYI
I was disappointed with the performance of the Dakotas. I have an ulterra and after two trips I decided to remove those batteries only to find out the tops and sides had swelling. Never had issues with my ulterra not wanting to stow away. With other batteries my ulterra would stow once the voltage dropped. Not with Dakotas, I was stuck doing the manual stow. Dakotas only lasted about 4 hrs, with speed settings on my trolling motor at 4.
In my personal oppinion, only good thing about the batteries is weight, compared to other chemistries. There is a much lighter lithium out there and smaller too and I'm getting 2 trips out of them.
As for warranty, I'm getting a new pair of batteries here shortly but will not use on my boat. I'll give them a try on the RV.
This past Friday I ran my Terrova 24 V with 2 group 31's from 9:30 PM until 6:30 AM on the #5 setting. Battery voltage read 10 V at the end of my trip. I'm satisfied with 9ish hours on my Duracell 31's
I just installed the Terranova 24v 80lb thrust on my 1994 Nitro 170dc bass boat. The biggest batteries I can install are group size 27. I spend most of my time trolling. I am worried the batteries won't last long. I am torn into buying a kicker motor to provide most of the thrust and trolling motor to basically steer, which shouldn't use much power. I also have the NOCO 3 bank 10 amp charger. I was thinking of getting a small portable generator like the Honda 2200 watt model to charge them while I am fishing. What do you think about that?
@@bobczz3919 Not a good idea to charge and use at the same time, could create circuit breaker problems or send voltage back into the power head or circuit board of the trolling motor. Make sure you do your homework before attempting that
@@drkwlsk Thanks for your input. Yes, I need to do a lot of research. Yeah, I sure don't want to burn up my new trolling motor.
I do like my Noco genius charger. Nice videos on batteries and chargers.
Cool that you have one too, thanks for commenting and watching
I appreciate your information. And it pretty much jibes with what I found out. I even wrote an article to summarize it all.
There’s nothing to hate about the lithium batteries … except their price and that will eventually come down… We hope.
They do what a battery is supposed to do. All the hype, all the glowing praise - maybe it’s worthwhile, but primarily their weight is what makes a difference, if we’re to be honest. Now me, Im lucky; I get all of the 55 and 110 amp hour AGM batteries I can want for free. I can bank them together anyway I choose.
So lithium’s aren’t really in the future for my needs.
But for those who can pay for em, they do the job at half the weight.
That’s a plus.
Thanks again for what you do.
David
Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching
Glad that those dilithium crystals are working well for you captain.
I have some old tech LA batts. And she “Can’nae take any more, Captain!”
Funny stuff.
a cleat within arms reach of another cleat is just about right. thing is in the middle where you get in and out get the pop-up cleats that way your not catching pant legs, shoestrings etc on.
Absolutely, Thanks for watching
Gland to testing came out better. Nice footage at the end.
What is next on green boat?
What’s next on the blue Starcraft?
Thanks
Tim
Green boat is complete as far as what I'm going to do to it. My buddy has it now and he will be fixing up the interior
Great job on the chargers and the batteries!!! Have you ever thought of rebuilding a jet ski???
I haven't, but if I found one on the cheap I may have to do one.
Interesting set up Mike, two things that make these Dakota batteries worth it, the lighter weight and warranty. Well I guess 3 thing last being how long they last on charge cycles. Being that said going to an electric outboard is looking more positive as long as there is room for the quality required on the boat to power a equivalent 50hp outboard someday for the average mariner. Currently the cost is way out of the ballpark except rich folk but like everything else the price will come down. It's only a matter of time before gas motors will not be sold anymore. I believe vintage motors will still be around as is but a conversion kit to power these classics may be needed to keep these around forever hopefully
Great comment Tim, thanks for watching and comments
Looking up the amp draw of the trolling motor, it can put about 25 amps at medium speed (I would guess speed 5 on your trolling motor), which with your 108ah of capacity on the Dakotas gives 4.32 hours of run time. Seeing about 5 hours at 4.5 speed, that lines up pretty good to the rated amp hour. Just kind of sucks that it is near $1,000 for the batteries, but I guess if they last 10 years, that is pretty cheap in the long run.
Nice job on the calculations.
I just installed the Terranova 24v 80lb thrust on my 1994 Nitro 170dc bass boat. The biggest batteries I can install are group size 27. I spend most of my time trolling. I am worried the batteries won't last long. I am torn into buying a kicker motor to provide most of the thrust and trolling motor to basically steer, which shouldn't use much power. I also have the NOCO 3 bank 10 amp charger. I was thinking of getting a small portable generator like the Honda 2200 watt model to charge them while I am fishing. What do you think about that?
If you troll to hold a speed of 1.5 - 1.8mph they will go about 5 hours. I you just use the trolling motor to navigate around the shoreline while casting for large mouth, you can go two days. Generator for overnight charges is a good idea.
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina Thank you for the information. Yes, I just ordered a small portable Honda 2000 watt generator to charge the batteries where I don't have access to AC power. I went fishing 2 days ago for the first time with my new Terranova. I trolled pretty much all day from 8am to 6pm and still had power left. I kept the speed control around 3 position. I was very impressed it lasted that long.
Question for you sir. I just did the water pump on my 79 evinrude 35hp. And came across and extra object that didn’t come with the new full kit that I purchased. Can’t find it on an diagram and was wondering if you might could help.?
send pictures of what you are talking about to the email in the description, I may be able to answer your questions.
Mike the wire that you used, 14 gauge, for the rear main battery looked like non marine solid core wire. I always use tinned multi strand marine wires. FYI
I normally do too, I did this to get me going and I will change out later for sure. Thanks for watching
Is that trolling motor 12 volt or 24 volt ? Jr is one heck of a drone pilot and camera man. keep up the great videos.
24 volt, Little more power to last a little longer. Yes he flies the crap out of that thing. Thanks as always bob for watching and commenting