Bigger Tires (33’s to 40’s) on Dana44 axles - Jeep Wrangler Eco Diesel Build Update
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2023
- I mounted 40 inch tires on my Eco Diesel Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. I tell you why, how, and what things to consider when going this route in the modification journey.
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#jeepwrangler #ecodiesel #40s Развлечения
Did you catch the true tire size measurement of the Cooper Stt Pros in the video?
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looks like about 39.5?
Yep… no tire is 100% true size but STT Pros and Nittos are the closest.
I love this! But we all know modding is such a rabbit hole! That being said I'm so glad you're taking us along for the ride! I'm sure this is going to be awesome!
I’ve ran the same wheel with 39” Km3’s and 5.13’s in 44’s for years now. Nate was right, just remember you have big tires and you’ll be good.
Is yours a gasser or diesel ?
This looks really good. I'm sold on getting 44"s vs tons. I've seen plenty of people with the right 44 setup and 40's that are running just fine.
Awesome video as always @KrokemOutdoors ! That was my sarge green JL on the lift at the beginning of the video! Very happy with the build and Northridge's work! 😀
40s really are the new 33s especially on the JL and JT. Very little work needed to fit those and that's what I love about it.
The humans that do this kind of work are AMAZEING,
🎉🎉Congratulations Edward !! Dusty is looking great, Cant wait to see you take him out and about. Thanks for sharing and all for all the info. 😊👊
Thanks Betzaida, as always!
Always love your information in these videos, Ed!! You keep it real, like explaining the cons to upgrading to the higher tire size, and you do the numbers work which is huge (MPG, RPM's etc). Your content is top freaking tier brother!
Thanks Thor!
Love to see this! I went with a 3.5" lift and moving to 37s" later this year. Still getting decent MPGs believe it or not Lol!
37's are a good sweet spot. My JL 2.0L turbo is getting over 18mpg in mixed daily driving.
I grew up in Silverdale where Northridge is. I used to ride up the ditch in front of his shop befor it was there 30 years ago on my dirt bike.
Looks like a very capable Jeep now, looking forward to some cool rock crawling videos keep up the good work
That is super cool, looking forward to see how it does on the trail.
What an upgrade!!! That’s awesome!!
Can't wait for the next video, keep on rockin stay blessed !
Looking great! Can’t wait to get back out your way and hit some more difficult trails! Keep it up!
Let’s go!
video and story telling skilz are levelling up lately, good on you!
Dude that looks awesome… nice work
Love the color choices you made.
Looks awesome! I see we both have the stt pros now. Looking forward to hitting the trail once I get the S10 done🤟🏻
Same, it’s been a while!
Awesome build and content !
Wow …Jeep looks Killer 🤙🏾and the shop guys are very cool and informative for the build can’t wait too see it in action…Aloha 🤙🏾
Dude... so good!
Great looking jeep with those mods
Great video.
Very interesting and informative.
I ran rock crawler 10 years ago... great suspension great flex, might even need limit straps or the coils will come loose
Awesome job on this video. Subscribed.
Time to plan a trip through the Rubicon.😃😃
Looks great
Nice build. Mod in stages, Take it easy on the skinny pedal. Great channel.
This into song has me like “Blame it on my ADD. SAIL!”
Watching your videos for the first time and great video I'm in washington as well hope to see you on the trail. I have 2 jeeps 1 on 40's an my wifes on 37's.
Beast!
looks awesome! making me want to go bigger.
Looking forward to your feedback on the new setup.
Hell yeah brother the Jeep looks sick I’ve been running 40” STT’s on my F350 last couple years they are the best tires I’ve ever ran think you will love them!
@Edward Shin, Great dive into the mods you're doing! 👍🏼👊🏼Personally, I would truss any 5-lug axle running 40s, especially with such aggressive tires like Cooper's. Axle wrap and excessive torsion is a very real thing with all of that dynamic weight turning on such a small axle shaft. Maybe ask Nate @Dirt Lifestyle to help you do that?! And with 1-ton axles and 40" tires you won't lose ground clearance. I had Mickey Thompson 40" tires on my '87 Bronco w/1-ton F-350 axles back in the day and I never had a ground clearance issue, and only a one time minor issue with being high-centered down a deeply rutted mud trail.
I ran 37" STT Pros on my '99 F-350. They are a GREAT tire. They are the only tire I'd run over BFGs and Wildpeaks, but nowadays they are cost prohibitive compared to BFG & Wildpeaks.
Hell I ran 44" Boggers on D44's w/Chromo shafts. D-shaft u-joints were my fusible link.
😬😬🫡
You went really deep on the gears, for the diesel. In the JL/JT Eco Diesel Jeep pages the general consensus is 38-40’s is 4:56 and 4:88 for more of a trail only side.
Speaking of 40’s only on the Eco’s
4:10 get 20mpg
4.56 get ~23mpg
4:88 18-20
5:17 16-17
Sweet spot for most have been 4:56.
I’m on 38’s still rolling 3:73’s and on average get 18.5-20mpg. I would love to regear but not for awhile. Still have loads of torque and I do tow. I’m pushing 68k miles on our 21. Banks power was a nice power bump but for about same price GED has emission complaint tune that been getting great reviews as well. Now EOC across the north border has full on weight loss and seem to be the best on everything from a spectator’s perspective. Looks great.
That is quite the statement!
Dang you are getting Rubicon ready for sure.
Thanks for sharing and congrats! Beautiful build Sir! You're officially "big time" now brother. This comment will probably be received negatively but don't forget about the little guys......it's what made your channel great.
Absolutely brother.👊
@@KrokemOutdoors I used to watch LLOD and some of his builds were way outside of the "average dude's" budget....... Please don't forget us little guys brother 🙏 Much Love!
Just found you on Northridge 4x4, Tim is pretty cool. You're jeep looks great!!
thank you!
REALLY excited to see a Tahuya run with you guys! One of my favorite places ever!
Massive!
I have a bent shift on my gladiator with just 37s and I baby this thing on technical trails. Need chromoly shafts for sure. I just have to put mine in now that they've arrived.
Yes, put those babies in and enjoy the trails 🙌
Good stuff!
At least wear the balljoints out first, but you should swap them aluminum knuckles.
I run 37 sst pros on my 2djl. They do great in deep snow, but its hell driving on snow-covered roads that others have driven. It wants to drag you into deep snow or ruts pretty bad. Its even worse in my shorter wheelbase. Not the tires fault, just the way it goes with big wide tires in the snow.
I'll be replacing the sst with another set of sst, outstanding tire.
Cool video, thanks for sharing!
Waiting for my 23 JLUR to be delivered, stock 33's will be fine. Damn you !! haha
On my old JK, I had 40s and stock axles. Truss and guss. Stock axle shafts and 5.13 gears. Been through Rubicon and Fordyce. It's all about the driver. Don't hop that's all. That's how sht breaks. Just crawl slowly and you'll b fine
Awesome video Ed, love the 40's Dusty is rocking now.....time for an Epic adventure again!!!
I’m looking forward to it! 🤝
Boy… good luck to you. If you going this deep, may consider DIY. That looks like a ton of money!
Right on looks good did it right 👍💰💵
Awesome content! Thanks for sharing. Did you lose turning radius after adding the tires? I tried going for 38s with stock axles and couldn’t do a full turn without rubbing the frame even with spacers on.
Dusty looks great! Looking forward to seeing how everything performs over time. My goal in two years is for a similar setup on a diesel Gladiator so this is going to be fun to watch.
I run cooper evolution 35" on my 79 jeep j10 with 6inch soa lift
The old saying comes to mind...
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should...
Time will tell...
Good luck.
Love the build…
BTW, what brand roof rack you have in the JL. Thanks.
Yay!
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I snapped my dana60 axles a few times with 40” tires the locker was probably to blame though.
Love it! Man, Dusty is coming together - can’t wait to see it in person in late March! 👊🏼
I’m stoked for it! 👊
100% Beast Mode !!
That’s badass!!!
Yes 👏👍🤩
did you get a flipped drag link? 4.5 lift and you're getting into that territory
🤩 super jealous!!! Rock crawler status now!!!! Love it. Congratulations bro!!!
Thanks man!
Such a wicked setup! Looking forward to seeing the shakedown run!
I have a similar setup 40 inch cooper pros with 4 link 4.5inch teraflex lift kit. just need to cut my rear ponch seems more. And I’ll be good to go! stock Dana 44s lmaoooo im scared so I take it easy! need to truss them asap!!!
Looking for insight on a jku with a 3in terraflex and 4.56 Yukon gears going from 35s to 37s. I know the difference isn't much but want to inquire about mpg and if it's safe with the stock axels.
Damn Dawg!!!
The info about letting joints flex will be very helpful building out my classic Ford Ranger
Will you be doing a video on cost break down?
You made the right choice with Rockrawler suspension, I feel their suspension is the best on the market for jeeps, I’ve owned 14 jeeps and always used rock crawler, just received my new 2023 392 and my parts came in last week from Rockrawler 4 1/2 inch lift very similar to yours, I have a set of 37 inch tires and a set of BFG 39 1350s I’m going to test both out and see what I like best, I like the way you have set up your jeep you’ve used good quality components, and you should have good luck with those tires, i’m considering those same wheels I’m just concerned about the legality of running bead locks here in Northern California on the road, I would think if an officer knows it’s a beedlock and pulls you over and you’re out of town what would happen? Could they stop you from driving? did you install flip kit for your drag link? thanks for the video!!! you do a good job with these!!👍
It looks so
Good! Tim can we stuff 40’s on my Rebel 🤣
Yes, we can..... 😉
What bumpers are you running?
How do those 40s do with the stock steering? Will you be adding hydro assist? Really nice rig you have there!!
Some steering improvement modifications are on the list. For now, on easygoing trails it’s fine
What was the bill for the full modification? Looks amazing..
GREAT VIDEO WHEN YOU GO TO TAHUYA YOU LET ME KNOW...
Probably a weird question. But do you have a video of your ink? I see what looks to be a landscape on your left forearm. 👍🏼
Would love to hear how the stock steering is handling the 40s,
It’s not bad, but could be better
Awesome setup Edward. It would be cool to run some trails together with our Goryeo Group.
Hey, where are you based out of?
@@KrokemOutdoors Southern Cali and Reno.
Nice Jeep Edward should work out well for you. God Bless
What are you going to do when you rip off the track bar and link mount brackets?
Fixing them would be on the top of the list
Hey buddy I have a 97 Dodge ram 1500,2wd with a Dana 44,my question is can I run 38 inch tires on them ,it's my daily driver??
What rim’s are those
My Coopers replaced all of my Maxxis tires!
Yes what he said. Beast Mode.
What did you do on your drive shafts
Rubicon drive shafts for the time being, but an upgrade is on the horizon once budget allows
Dusty is a monster!
😮 did you upgrade the driveshaft ? And would it be your next mod ?
Not yet, but it is high on the list 👍
I'm considering 40s on my ecodiesel, currently on 37s with metalcloak 3.5".
get those chromoly axles and re-gear if you can
@KrokemOutdoors you don't think trussing the axles and Cs would help? I figure 4.56 would be the closest gear ratio for 40s.
Hey Edward what are you going to do with your old wheels?
They have been sold
👍
How does it steer? Most guys I know with 40’s have hydro steering now.
Steering can be improved!
How do you like the 5.13s with the ecodiesel and 40s? Im stuck between 4.88 and 5.13
I think that’s too deep honestly. I’m on 37s with stock 3.73s, I really wanted to go 40s but didn’t see this video in time lol. Had I gone 40s, I would have stuck with 4.56s. I also put 24k miles a year on mine though and lots of highway miles.
COST ? Stock to 40s all in minus vehicle?
Whats the cost on this set up?
Love your JL! Thinking about doing the same with 40’s to my JTRD, but don’t want to spend on the 1 tons. What exactly did you do to the axles to beef them up and what was the cost? Are you happy with the gearing and the ride with the new shocks/suspension?
heres an exact build you can get for your axles that will be the the best you can get before 1 ton. RCV front axle shafts, front and rear axle truss (including C gussets), rear 35 spline chromoly axle shaft WITH SET 80 bearings, reid racing knuckle for the front. That exact combo is the ultimate strengthening you can do to these m210/m220 advantek axles without going to 1 tons. That's not including the cost of the regear AND the 35 spline carrier you need in the rear. With what I've listed, you're looking at an easy 3k in parts alone. You will need the ARB 35 spline rears to fit those rear axle shafts I listed and thats another 1k on top.
@@vincentmamotos9937 thank you!
@@vincentmamotos9937 wouldn’t 1 tons be cheaper and it would be overall cheaper to get a Sport and do all the upgrades?
@@J.Young808 1 tons are absolutely not cheaper. Not at the slightest. Theres 2 ways to go about it. Go buy a crate 1 ton that comes out of the box ready to be installed directly which costs around 15k+ for front and rears OR get a junkyyard 1 ton and fix it up yourself (gears, hubs, shafts,) which is pretty hard to find these days and you have to deal with scalpers. Not to mention they run ALOT heavier than the 1tons that are direct swap. With what i listed, you're looking at around maybe 5k on the low end and you'll be as close to 1 tons without spending the money. And yes, Sport S is the way to go if you know youre gonna be havily modding it. I got my sport S in 2021 and with all the mods that I listed, its WAY MORE bulletproof than a stock rubicon and still be around 10k cheaper than rubicon MSRP. Only difference than my sport S now and a rubicon is the transfer case ratio. But my axles are WAY WAY stronger. Not to mention fron and rear AIR lockers.
Except for the knuckles coming out of the ball joint with 40’s
Knuckles and ball joint upgrades are on the priority list
Boy's listenup , back in the early 80s i had 44in. Monster Mudders from Dick Cepek on my 72 ford highboy with a closed nuckle 44 HD with Stock axles and a true trac in front ! I was in the Firewood buisness and only 1 time i broke a long side front axle with a Cord of Oak loaded on , and i made the mistake of backing up a hill due to easy loading of wood ! I had to backup about ten feet to turn around and POP !! Other than that The Rubicon trail or 3ft of snow Never bothered the 44 , But i wasn't hamming the gas peddle all the time and that makes a huge difference
Thanks gramps. The problem is the new Jeep Dana 44s are not the old schools 44. The only similarity is the name.
@@mikes.9755 very Disrespectful words calling me Gramps and i think ur Wrong , these new 44 should be in ur own Words better than the old ones !! So Smart mouth young Punk do ur home work
@@dudleybaggerman9574 lighten up Francis. It’s called a joke when your first comment on the video starts with “ Boys listen up”. 😂😂😂. Secondly you have no idea how much home work I’ve done and third you have no idea how young I am. But you are Ina roll and also struggled with reading comprehension thinking “ in my words” I sad the current D44 offered even compare to the old school D44s. When I was a kid I was running Waggoner Dana 44s and Scout Dana 44s so put that in your old man pipe Gramps. 😉
@@mikes.9755 maybe i should have started out Stupid person , that would have fit u better ,
@@mikes.9755 boy u are Disrespectful