I really like the bell-sounder mix on the level crossings that you lot have over there. In New Zealand if we are going to use them we only tend to use them for a seprate warning once the level crossing is actervated, such as if another train is approching, but we also use sounders on level crossings instead of bells on our ports.
Nice video! Klaxon are apparently rather rare in the UK. Nice find! What an odd operation for the crossing as well. The bell cycle for the one signal reminds me of how Polish crossings operate (bells ring until train reaches crossing).
Thankyou. I don't recall ever seeing a Klaxon sounder before, I'm surprised that they don't have a protective cage fitted to it. The bell operation is quite rare, I've never seen it used on a gated crossing before. I'll have to check out some polish crossings.
I should point out that 50 crossings are being removed in Melbourne (6 have already been done). Hopefully you'll come down to Melbourne one day and film some of the crossings here. Also, the amount of Waratah sets in the video reminded me of how almost every single train on the Clifton Hill & Burnley groups are X'trapolis trains. Comeng trains are quite rare on those groups nowadays.
McK&H Aust Hopefully you'll be able to do so before the last of the Hybrid bells & black and white gates disappear and before Daniel Andrews axes all the good crossings...
I hope so too. There are only about 10 crossings left on public roads in Sydney, plus a couple of private crossings. Even if Daniel Andrews removes the whole 50 on the list (there's every chance he will fall short) you will still have plenty left (way more than 10) :)
An interesting assortment of crossing features here. The Klaxon sounder is nostalgic for me because it's in the same operating sound mode as my high school bell / fire alarm (in the newer of the two buildings, anyway). It would 'fade out' like that because of a capacitor discharging - maybe to do with the pedestrian gates' operation tied into the sounders' operation? With the bell discontinuing once the train passes, it doesn't reactivate again for a second train coming. It does seem to be a little superfluous that the mechanical bell remains active or even is used at all, considering there is also the electronic sounder for the pedestrian gates. Nice video with a good selection of angles and train patterns - I am partial to the newer trainsets, so that doesn't bother me. Although I guess the Tangara has its charm with the quirky curved glass on the upper deck!
It seems like those Klaxon sounders have been used for many different applications. It does seem like overkill to have so many bells and sounders, but I guess it lessens the chance of being sued when someone does something stupid and gets hurt. I don't mind the new or the old trains, they both have their good and bad features. I would have liked to see a bit of variety on the day, just for the filming :-)
Interesting to note the extra set of red flashing lights at a 90-degree angle on the southern side of the crossing for the benefit of drivers leaving the adjacent Hawkesury Race Club, who might be turning right to go across the crossing.
This crossing would certainly suit E2S alarms because the crossing has 2 tracks, which would be useful for E2S alarms. They have 2 types of sounding tones; the slow one for general purposes, and then the fast one for if a second train has been detected approaching while the first train is passing or after it has already passed.
4:05 now those pedestrain alarms sound British! It seems odd when you put a British alarm, playing next to an American mechanical bell! 5:10 so the bells stop when the train is close enough! 5:56 I think you were trying to get the alarms to not play, but people keep walking up! 10:36 never seen that name on a crossing before! Their bell must be rare! 11:16 was there any pedestrians to the right off camera?
At 10:36, this is the bracket made by Harmon Electric. Rather common on the Wongawilli coal mine, and used to be very common! at 4:05, this is not a British alarm. it is a common speaker siren playing the Hi Lo tone. At 5:10, I like that. hopefully this cleared some stuff up (yes I am late)
Considering that there are no houses nearby, it's an odd setup for the bell. You can see a new concrete signal foundation, and there were signal maintainers looking at the crossing, specially the wires between the relay case and the signal bases. There's a good chance they are planning some kind of upgrade, and the mechanical bells will probably be replaced by e-bells if that happens.
i think it is because of the noise pollution that the bells create so as soon as the gates come down the bells shut off but the "uk level crossing" alarm buzzer doesnt
They are block signals and are not for the level crossing as such, although they are interlocked with the crossing so that it will not activate when they are displaying a "Stop" aspect.
Progress has been slow. They have finished installing the signal foundations and cable ducts, not sure how far advanced the electrical work is. The road has been resurfaced and widened slightly. I guess they will install the gates during a weekend track work closedown in the future.
I really like the bell-sounder mix on the level crossings that you lot have over there. In New Zealand if we are going to use them we only tend to use them for a seprate warning once the level crossing is actervated, such as if another train is approching, but we also use sounders on level crossings instead of bells on our ports.
It looks like they replaced the alarms because they sound different and they look shiny.
Nice video! Klaxon are apparently rather rare in the UK. Nice find! What an odd operation for the crossing as well. The bell cycle for the one signal reminds me of how Polish crossings operate (bells ring until train reaches crossing).
Thankyou. I don't recall ever seeing a Klaxon sounder before, I'm surprised that they don't have a protective cage fitted to it. The bell operation is quite rare, I've never seen it used on a gated crossing before. I'll have to check out some polish crossings.
I've heard the Klaxon alarm along the Welsh Highland railway! That's how I recognize the sound!
Nice! There's loads of urban Level Crossings in Melbourne...
Thanks. Not many crossings in Sydney, most were removed in the 1970's & 1980's.
I should point out that 50 crossings are being removed in Melbourne (6 have already been done). Hopefully you'll come down to Melbourne one day and film some of the crossings here. Also, the amount of Waratah sets in the video reminded me of how almost every single train on the Clifton Hill & Burnley groups are X'trapolis trains. Comeng trains are quite rare on those groups nowadays.
I'd love to come down to Melbourne, just don't know when I will have the time. I'm struggling to even get to the crossings I want to film in NSW.
McK&H Aust Hopefully you'll be able to do so before the last of the Hybrid bells & black and white gates disappear and before Daniel Andrews axes all the good crossings...
I hope so too. There are only about 10 crossings left on public roads in Sydney, plus a couple of private crossings. Even if Daniel Andrews removes the whole 50 on the list (there's every chance he will fall short) you will still have plenty left (way more than 10) :)
An interesting assortment of crossing features here.
The Klaxon sounder is nostalgic for me because it's in the same operating sound mode as my high school bell / fire alarm (in the newer of the two buildings, anyway). It would 'fade out' like that because of a capacitor discharging - maybe to do with the pedestrian gates' operation tied into the sounders' operation?
With the bell discontinuing once the train passes, it doesn't reactivate again for a second train coming. It does seem to be a little superfluous that the mechanical bell remains active or even is used at all, considering there is also the electronic sounder for the pedestrian gates.
Nice video with a good selection of angles and train patterns - I am partial to the newer trainsets, so that doesn't bother me. Although I guess the Tangara has its charm with the quirky curved glass on the upper deck!
It seems like those Klaxon sounders have been used for many different applications. It does seem like overkill to have so many bells and sounders, but I guess it lessens the chance of being sued when someone does something stupid and gets hurt.
I don't mind the new or the old trains, they both have their good and bad features. I would have liked to see a bit of variety on the day, just for the filming :-)
Ok I better get down there and film that crossing before it changes!!
Interesting to note the extra set of red flashing lights at a 90-degree angle on the southern side of the crossing for the benefit of drivers leaving the adjacent Hawkesury Race Club, who might be turning right to go across the crossing.
This crossing would certainly suit E2S alarms because the crossing has 2 tracks, which would be useful for E2S alarms. They have 2 types of sounding tones; the slow one for general purposes, and then the fast one for if a second train has been detected approaching while the first train is passing or after it has already passed.
Would be interesting to see :)
4:05 now those pedestrain alarms sound British! It seems odd when you put a British alarm, playing next to an American mechanical bell!
5:10 so the bells stop when the train is close enough!
5:56 I think you were trying to get the alarms to not play, but people keep walking up!
10:36 never seen that name on a crossing before! Their bell must be rare!
11:16 was there any pedestrians to the right off camera?
At 10:36, this is the bracket made by Harmon Electric. Rather common on the Wongawilli coal mine, and used to be very common!
at 4:05, this is not a British alarm. it is a common speaker siren playing the Hi Lo tone.
At 5:10, I like that.
hopefully this cleared some stuff up (yes I am late)
Interesting how the bell cuts of in the middle of activation. Also surprising Sydney trains hasn't removed it.
Considering that there are no houses nearby, it's an odd setup for the bell. You can see a new concrete signal foundation, and there were signal maintainers looking at the crossing, specially the wires between the relay case and the signal bases. There's a good chance they are planning some kind of upgrade, and the mechanical bells will probably be replaced by e-bells if that happens.
They have removed it... And replaced it with red crossbucks and e-bells👎
The darn idiots replaced it with red x/bucks and e-bells😬😬😬
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!
11:01 broken lights for a sec
why do the bells shut off when the train passes the crossing
I'm not sure why, it's just the way the crossing was designed to operate.
i think it is because of the noise pollution that the bells create so as soon as the gates come down the bells shut off but the "uk level crossing" alarm buzzer doesnt
@@McKHAust i think it is to reduce noise pollution, although the buzzer is more annoying :P
What is special about the level crossing indicator signals here? Why do they have two heads?
I'm not sure what you mean by indicator signals, do you mean the extra pairs of lights?
I mean the signals facing down the track that indicate the level crossing's status for trains.
They are block signals and are not for the level crossing as such, although they are interlocked with the crossing so that it will not activate when they are displaying a "Stop" aspect.
Has there been any more progress on the crossing at Clifton????
Progress has been slow. They have finished installing the signal foundations and cable ducts, not sure how far advanced the electrical work is. The road has been resurfaced and widened slightly. I guess they will install the gates during a weekend track work closedown in the future.
At this stage the gates will be brought into service over the weekend of January 7 & 8 early next year.
Sadly the gated signals have now Been replaced.
That's a shame, I guess it now has e-bells then?
McK&H Aust yes it now has wch e bells.
How come they replaced the signals?
TrickyMario7654 Not sure but most likely the same reason that metro replace their mechanical bells with e bells.