Star Trek: 10 Secrets About The Kelvin Enterprise You Need To Know
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I heard that the in universe reason the new Enterprise was so much larger was the fact that the ship the Romulans used was so massive. When the Federation saw the size of the Romulan ship they said "We're going to need a bigger boat" and started making star ships larger from that point on.
Although the USS Kelvin was already huge - very close to the size of a prime universe Galaxy class.
No. It’s because of the trans warp drive (reverse engineered from the kelvin’s encounter with Nero’s ship) took up way more space than a normal warp drive. That’s the official explanation as I understand it.
@@Sifu-RasAlGhul you mean the dreadnought class?
@@disqorddoge1101the Enterprise dont have a transwarp drive
@@Sifu-RasAlGhul yes, but in star trek into darkness Khan said that the vengeance is a dreadnought class ship
The lab used for the warp core in ST into darkness, is a working fusion lab, trying to generate power from nuclear fusion. That is as close to a warp core as there is in real life, at this time.
Lol, loved the montage of Enterprise destructions.
Hard to be sure, but did it include any shots from the NextGen episode Timescape? Everyone forgets there's an Enterprise destruction in that one, too! :-D
Also trying to remember: did we SEE the historical destruction of Garrett's Enterprise? I've still gotta get around to my NextGen re-watch.
What’s the name of the song
How many times has Enterprise has to self destruct itself both universe and generation
never understood ST's always destroying an enterprise
New fans: th- the- they destroyed THE ENTERPRISE
Older fans: ha, the old destroying the enterprise for effect trick, classic
Technically speaking, Scotty ejects the Antimatter storage tanks
yea but nobody realises that :/
@@atomicrc5189 yup
Exactly
@@atomicrc5189
At least SOME of us do. 😉
The ignition facility is a freaking experimental FUSION REACTOR!!! That is way cooler than just a beer brewery.
I love the practical joke they pulled on Benedict Cumberbatch, saying that he constantly had to rub this special solution on his skin to keep from suffering horrific physical effects by being near to the reactor. He was basically rubbing lube on his body every day, and so stressed out that he would cake that stuff on extra thick LOL
@@k1productions87 Simon Pegg talked about that on some late night show.
Although they do destroy Enterprises all the time now, you need to remember it took 18 years from the OG series to Star Trek III for an Enterprise to be destroyed. It was a really big deal to see that in theaters for the first time.
I imagine it would have hit like the first time Optimus Prime died
@@CT-4274 it hit worse...
KIRK: My god, Bones. What have I done?
McCOY: What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live.
Exactly, its also my opinion 🖖
Yes. It was practically as bad as Spock's death in the ST II. In sharp contrast, it felt like they were going for completely unearned shock in Beyond.
@@OscarFowler I totally agree, but then they got to repair and fly the Franklin into battle. That was pretty cool 😁👍
“..Which is heartbreaking, because they never destroy Enterprises, they never do that. It’s a *terrible* thing to do..”
…And then we roll on the carnage; the music was an exceptionally spot-on choice, outstanding upload. Tears running down both cheeks, simply hysterical!
"Isn't it remarkable how the starship engine room looks absolutely nothing like the Budweiser plant in California?" -Austin Powers
No need to apologize - Budweiser isn't a very good beer, no matter what it's popularity is in the U.S.
@@timeliebe I always love it when people make general statements about highly subjective realities.
@@deejayimm what that bud isn’t a good beer? It’s not that good. It’s like the dunks or Starbucks of beer.
@@warwickben I mean taste is highly subjective, as I said.
It's not one of the cheap 30 pack beers, but it's still super popular, so obviously alot of people like it.
Same with bud light. I think it tastes like crap but its STUPID popular, so clearly it's not a bad beer.
@deejayimm
"After drinking (Romulan) ale, even coolant fluid becomes palatable."
--- Arrhae I. t'Khellian.
I love the Kelvin Enterprise. It’s modern while still respectful of the original series.
Aw, you beat me to it!
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I will say that it took me a while to start liking this design (from the ST09) -- it grew on me -- but yeah, I do like it's modern style overall. I wish the nacelles were a little more further apart and the saucer + neck were maybe brought forward along the engineering hull a little more but I digress. Compared to that abomination 1701A that was revealed at the end of STBeyond, the ST09 Ryan Church Enterprise is a gem IMO.
My thoughts exactly, the Kelvin is everything the original was and more, speaking from a 50s perspective ,on top of that they throw that vengeance in the mix
@@jwgaming75I wish the nacelles weren’t so chunky
Multiple warp cores makes sense. If one or a few get compromised you can ditch them and not disable your ship.
And great for an ambush/escape
AND THAT SHIP WAS HUGE, IT MUST HAVE NEEDED MORE THAN ONE!!!!!
You know, when you call something a "core", you expect there to be one big one, not a million little ones
@@Sephiroth144
Its only 8 (I think) and they perform the same function. Also if you have a CPU from Intel and AMD made in the last 10 years they have multiple cores. So, reconcile that.
@@DocWolph Soooooo... you haven't been watching Lower Decks, (wherein the reference was from)
Calling Budweiser average is being way too generous.
No need to apologize for calling Budweiser average. That's a huge compliment to that piss even.
Exactly
Budweiser sucks because it's made with a mixture of corn, wheat, and rice. Real beer is made with barley.
Yeah, we Americans are under no illusion that our beer is actually good...at least we don't drink it warm, I guess...
@@JGooden762 True. And in reaction to Budweiser, we’ve let the pendulum swing WAY to far into IPA Land, some of which is nasty in it’s own special way. 🤣
Deadline my late father would shake your hand! He used to call it Clydesdale piss. Lol
They ejected the antimatter containment pods. Not the warp core.
Yeah thats what it looks like to me too
That's how I see it.
It’s funny to me how many people hate this ship while I’m one of the few people who consider it to be my all time FAVORITE enterprise of them all. But this was the first enterprise I was ever exposed to first when I was taken to see into darkness when it came out, so that probably influenced me. XD
My major complain about the Kelvin Enterprise was the bent pylons. The nacelles look too close to each other.
Their to big ... and blue
Yep, I think the same.
@@ken.f.c.1977 That's the problem with Kelvin Timeline. Because to them，bigger starships means stronger
@@ken.f.c.1977 Defiant should teach them a lesson for that
Yes and the nacelles are too fat and odd looking to me. Some how more sixties than the other enterprises we see. The d and e have cool nacelles and the original style tubes from back in the day are also fine. Hell the refit with more rectangular nacelles are better looking as well.
I'm sure this video won't get any knee-jerk dislikes based on nothing but the mention of the Kelvin Timeline. Trekkies are too culturally enlightened to stoop to such preemptive judgements ☺️🖖
Oh TOTALLY. As if Trek fans don't immediately HATE all new Trek
Don't ya know... no one hates Star Trek more than a Star Trek fans.
Perhaps I am missing something but the Enterprise refit from the first motion picture was slightly larger than the ToS one but we didn't have problems with it being too small for the cinema screen.
Yeah, it's nonsensical. The Millennium Falcon is way smaller, I suppose we should be grateful he didn't scale that up as well...
Remember when Nemesis was the worst star trek movie ever .... good old days ...
Robo Picard to the rescue!
Did you forget about Final Frontier? Yeah, tough call.
The National Ignition Facility is an experimental fusion reactor located at the Lawrence Livermore Labs in California.
During the darkness movie they said it was the "core" and refered to as a reactor. It wasn't the warp core it was a fusion reactor that powers the ship systems.
Still loved the Kelvin Connie.
I liked Beyond's refit more.
@@sw-gs mm fb
Overall I like the 2009 design,... but those inward-curving pylons need to be straightened out. They pull the massive nacelles way too close together, against the massive sombrero saucer. That one change would make the design near perfect for me.
... Beyond however did worse,... not only pulling them close together, but making the pylons backswept, with smaller nacelles....
backswept pylons only works if the nacelles jut out forward ahead of them, to close the distance from the saucer and balance the design....
But Justin Lin did say he wanted the ship to look weak on purpose.
@@k1productions87 if you really wanna see close nacelles then look at the USS Ageis.
I detest people who are too lazy to say constitution class.
Designwise, the refitted USS Enterprise NCC-1701 from 1979’s Star Trek: The Motion Picture remains the best for me, followed by the Ambassador-class Enterprise C , Jonathan Archer’s NX-01 Enterprise & the Sovereign class Enterprise E.
The 1960s TV series & ST:TMP had the best Bridge layout and design.
My ranking:
Enterprise refit
Enterprise E
Enterprise B
Enterprise original
Enterprise D
Nx01
Enterprise C
Kelvinprise
I dislike the refit nacelles, phase 2 Connie nacelles look better imo
I think it’s cool that you shouted out the writer. Thanks Paul!
I laughed when I saw the "Kelvin Enterprise" for the first time. The nacelles look like the original type 2 phasers.
That's what upset me the most about J.J. Abrams and the Kelvin Timeline. Ever since Mr Scott's Guide, the people behind Star Trek when to a huge effort to make everything about the Enterprise's design seem believable. Then along comes J.J. Abrams who apparently didn't give a bleep. The fact that a 21st century brewing plant stood in for Engineering was painfully obvious. Not to mention the other huge set in the second (?) movie that was a circular well at least a football field in diameter, with a narrow crossover bridge spanning it at one point. I could go on, but I don't want to get badly wound up, right before bed.
You're not alone. I personally don't sort abramsverse under Star Trek. Keeps me sane. But it's an entertaining sci fi movie
One thing i didnt like was the fact it was refitted all the time I personally liked the 2009 look the best
The STO actual SHOOTING miniature model hangs suspended from the ceiling in the SMITHSONIAN MUSEUM! THE NACELLES ARE TURNED ON AND YRS, THEY'RE BRIGHT RED!!!
Actually it’s in a glass case in the lobby now
@@KalEL224 I’ve seen it a couple times, and I got a little misty eyed both times. Is that a bad thing?
Yup, in a lovely new case, and it lights up a few times a day on a set schedule (check when you get there). And like the Kelvin CGI, it was only finished on one side ;) Some great blog posts over at NASM about the conservation if you're interested.
@@KalEL224 yes, it badly needed some TLC.
@@BruinPhD2009 Maybe the misty eyes are a reaction to radiation from the warp cores. Try standing farther away next time. LOL
You actually got Eero Saarinen's name right the first time you pronounced it.
And yes, I am an architecture nerd.
"We're not nerds, we only work at ILM..."
XD XD XD XD
The National Ignition Facility is the laser lab at Lawrence Livermore.
Considering the chief engineer's drinking habits, it makes perfect sense for engineering to look like a brewery!
Can you please make that compilation of Enterprise destruction a video all its own? That was great!
"We didn't question it at the time, because we had such great time watching the movie"
I had time, i picked both '09 and Darkness apart, "This is stupid", "makes no sense" etc. etc.
God I'm glad we will never see this universe ever again. It can be mentioned, i don't care.
Back in the day i really wanted the reboot to succeed, i loved the first tease...but after that everything was falling apart. I think the only part i do enjoyed was the beginning, with the USS Kelvin (THIS WAS A GREAT DESIGN)
The reason the warp core is different is because they went through a refit after the nero incident, i believe they say that in canon.
Hello Adam! Keep making these kinds of videos! You, Seán and Markus help keep this show fresh and fun for us true and new fans! Keep up the outstanding work! 🖖🏻👨🏻🦲👍🏻
The Enterprise B had blue bussards. on its warp engines.
@@johnbockelie3899 I love every ship named Enterprise, regardless of color or design. They all look cool and they all fly in space! I am 50yo, it wouldn't surprise me if my first words spoken were either "Kirk" or "Spock"!
I have issues with Abrams' questionable choices. Overall the Enterprise was fine but I thought the secondary hull needed to be shifted forward (a tad). When I first saw the shuttle bay, I was like "how huge is this ship!?". Bridge looks like an Apple store, I'm good with that. My main gripe was the lower decks/engine room, in cinema all my friends (including myself) thought "why is there a giant brewery on the Enterprise?". Also, there was a Rihanna music video tie-in with Beyond!? This is the first time I'm hearing about it.
I remember that early teaser and it BLEW MY MIND. I was just getting more into TOS Star Trek and I was SO HYPE FOR THIS MOVIE. Only to be angry when they went with an alternate universe, but it grew on me
Epic enterprise destruction montage. I'd love a video of just that.
I love the Kelvin ship. I'm just a bit surprised that they made the bridge so bright. Especially since we all know how fatiguing on the eyes a bright computer screen is.
The only one of the destroyed enterprises that held any emotional weight was in the ST3 self destruct scene.
All hail Kris Thompson, editor extraordinaire! 🙌🏻
I was promised dolphins.
Funny you mention the Budwiser plant. The Classic Doctor Who episode "The Pirate Planet" the Engine room of the titular planet was actually filmed in a real nuclear power plant.
I think it’s pretty fitting that the reboot enterprise went through it’s own design evolution like the original series. It’s really something every series has to go through.
"In the Hall of the Mountain King" is the absolutely perfect score for all the Starship Go Boom moments
The Hall of the Mountain King scored Enterprise destruction montage is pure gold.
Just to point out, you do not see multiple warp cores being ejected in the first film. You are seeing the antimatter pods being ejected.
I went to highschool near the Budweiser plant in Northridge and it actually smells really good for several blocks around. On the other hand I hear that it smells lousy around the Sierra Nevada plant in Norcal.
I like the design in general, but the nacelles were too chunky at the front, also, it was supposed to be hot rod-esque, but Gene Roddenberry specified that that was what he DIDN'T want the Enterprise to be like!
Don't really care for The Kelvin timeline, though I'm a sucker for all things "Trek". Not sad to see it go, Waiting with bated breath (whoops had herring for dinner) to see what comes next.
This is my favorite ship in Star Trek online... thing refuses to die.
They never destroy Enterprises.
All Good Things: Hold my beer.
Why don't we just call it the Enterprise-K moving forward? It's gonna be a while before Kurtzman Trek gets that far.
Are we sure- don't think they called out the Enterprise in Discovery, but we did have the Voyager-J... so there's a real good chance the Enterprise is around that alphabetical.
@@Sephiroth144 The Enterprise J was shown on Enterprise and was active in the 26th century. I'd bet they've named more than one in the 500 years until Discovery showed up. But that's not to say we won't see an Enterprise at some point!
@@ChrisEllorris Indeed; which means calling the Kelvin-verse Enterprise the Enterprise-K is a noooooope.
The return of the Dolphin Series, with Adam Clery *and* the Space Jacket! Thank you Paul for the research, and Kris for the "Deaths of the Enterprise" segment.
Lol. You better apologize for your Budweiser glib... That "beer" is not worth even the low praise you gave it.
Better to go with Sam Adams or any number of microbreweries cross country.
Didn’t know it was a brewery being used as the engine room. Assumed it was some sort of water plant with the tanks and whatnot but makes sense now it’s been pointed out.
As for the multiple warp cores it could literally be tech evolving? Like the tech in the ‘early’ days of Kelvin verse came in multiple parts, and as it developed became a singular entity in one room. Maybe the events of Star Trek 09 triggered the redesign - that if a ship needs to eject it’s core, it takes to long time/ risk of system failure on one of the multiple ejection sequences could damage the ship. Downscaling to one simplifies the process.
The only thing I really dislike about the Kelvin universe Enterprise is the engineering section - the repurposed brewery was just odd.
Some wold say the kelvin timeline is to start trek is what budwiser is to beer
This guy is so funny .more of this guy
That wasn't the warp core being ejected, it was the matter and Antimatter tanks...
Only thing I dislike about it, was the pylons look too tall and nacelles to close together
I thought those where anti-matter pods not warp cores. Also, Starfleet hasn’t always used the long tube cores we start seeing in TMP and on. You have the anti matter pods and then there is the actual core where the matter/antimatter mix. That’s where Kirk was in the 2nd movie.
The Enterprise ejecting its warpcore(s) to escape the black hole created by the destruction of the Narada via Red Matter was a homage to the novel Prime Directive where Captain Kirk ordered Spock to eject antimatter into a wormhole created when the Enterprise went to warp in the atmosphere of Talin IV.
You know i thought this video was going to be more about in universe secrets we didn't know such as how this Enterprise was so advanced because Starfleet bacwards engineered tech from Neros ship left behind by the destruction of the Kelvin or how Starfleet ships had fully functioning Transwarp drives instead of normal Warp drives but all these behind the scenes facts were great too
Where did you learn about the transwarp drives?
I'm old and saw ST in the early 70s for the first time. And ST The Motion Picture (79) was the 3rd movie I was ever taken to in the theatre, I love the refit. TNG/DS9/Voyager have deeply affected my teens and tweens. Even if I have always been a huge fan of Star Wars and Galactica as well.
I loved the Kelvin version of the ship as it was so new, so retro, with its 50s lines. I liked the cast very much, so I was disappointed that the old fans did not take as well to the new incarnation as I did.
Personally, if I had that kind of money and influence, we would see a few more movies really fast.
That Ent-A is hideous. It has no grace whatsoever.
I love the kelvin enterprise!!! It's for sure the best enterprise!
I saw this movie in the cinema. I had only seen the Enterprise on TV. It is just mind blowing to see it on the big screen.
Enterprise A was shown in 3 films not destroyed.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every way shape and form and every detail possibly provided indeed, But unfortunately I have a problem with the ships nacelles on being so far back on the struts I keep waiting to see them snap off while the Enterprisei is at warp!,🤔.
Wow, the Kelvin universe -A looks even worse than the first one.
Everybody craps on Beyond but it was actually the fun one.
I recently found out that the Kelvin Enterprise was bigger than the TOS Enterprise and even slightly bigger the TNG Enterprise…
Now I know why….
It’s because TOS Enterprise was too
Small and wasn’t photogenic.
Guess there’s a big difference between a old fashioned tube tv and a giant movie screen….
Oh my God the ugly Kelvin JJ Enterprise, all 3 movies are silly, i dont accept them for Star Trek canon together with terrible Disco with non professional actors and weak characters. JJ Abrams go home, God bless TOS and TOS movies with original, legendary Crew 🖖
I don't care which timeline the movie is as long as we get more Star Trek movies with an ENTERPRISE crew. ANY ENTERPRISE CREW!! I would even be happy with a whole new Enterprise F or later crew. What rule is there that says we have to have a series about them first? Bring on the ENTERPRISE!!!
So very many sci-fi TV shows and movies use breweries to represent the insides of ships or space docks or similar. I live with a professional brewer and just about every industrial-looking thing in shows set in space are a shot of beer fermenters or serving tanks.
It's kinda ironic that the enterprise was designed based on an apple store, given that the mobile phone/cell phone concept was inspired by the Star Trek series.
I don't think I know a single American who would be upset about you poking fun at one of the worst beers ever made. It calls itself the king of beers but it's not even worthy to be the court jester.
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Very informative, thanks! 🖖
Don't worry, I'm an American and I cannot stand Budweiser. Having worked in bars, I know exactly the smell you're talking about. Haha
When you think of it, the front of the Enterprise looks a bit like an.......Umbrella, eh eh eh eh eh eh! The Star Trek Beyond song is, out of this world!
Interesting to learn that they had to alter the design of the ship to make it look structurally weaker in order to prove their claim that the design was structurally weak.
That's intellectual integrity right there.
You know I used to dislike the Kelvin Prise but it's grown on my like the Discovery I know a lot of people who feel the same it's weird how they grow on people like that
I simply can get over the fact that the engine room is a budwiser brewery. That's why I don't like the Kelvin Enterprise.
its like a modern cruise ship. Everything above the waterline is sleek, fancy and comfortable,... but once you go below decks, its like an industrial forest. Tubes, catwalks, girders, pipes, in a rusted metal decor.
I find it a rather nice juxtaposition that makes things feel more functional and lived in, rather than just feeling like a movie set.
I actually knew that the National Ignition Facility thing. BTW, the NIF is used for fusion reaction experiments.
Devils advocate for the 2nd warp core... The first ones were more "Fuel Rods" for the warp core. The second one is the Core itself.
For number 8... Wasn't it a milk factory?! I've always been told and known those scenes as a milk factory.
Nimitz class aircraft carriers have more than one nuclear reactor onboard. It make sense for the enterprise to have multiple cores. Perhaps there's one main reactor for propulsion and the rest are auxiliary reactors that provide power to the other ship systems.
I loved the new look.
In fact I want a model of it. It’s gorgeous.
That's hilarious brother because you're right Budweiser is very average beer or if you're looking for something to give you a headache
The warp core may have been swapped out and upgraded between movies because it kinda blew out the old ones and the ship was a bit banged up, too much logic?
The ship has no sensor array, it was replaced with observation dome
lol ah yes because who needs 20 au subwarp sensors when you can just fly allllllll the way up to something and look with your tiny human eyes?
Wait a minute…how long had the Enterprise-D been flying by “Generations”? Surely it wasn’t much longer than the Enterprise by “Beyond”.
{Kelvin Dimension} Naval Construction Contract 1701: 2258-2263. (Approx. 5 years.)
{Prime Dimension} Naval Construction Contract 1701-D:
2363-2371. (Approx. 8 years.)
{Looks as though you're correct.}
Dont apologise for calling our Beers Average, in that case its an unearned compliment but Thats one Texans opinion
I know one secret about the Kelvin Enterprise🤐....that ship is ugly asf 🖖🏾😁
Ooh the Abe Lincoln episode is on the telly box right now. Going to be good.
The Savage Curtain
The Enterprise in the 2009 reboot had to be 25% different from the original over copyright
The national ignition facility is a nuclear fusion testing facility that are attempting to achieve aptly named ignition. So yeah it fits rather well as the reactor room on the enterprise
It's ugly as hell. There will never be a more beautiful starship than the TOS retrofit Enterprise.
Do not apologize for how average our beer is, it's not great and we know it
At some point in time, the drinking population just accepted it and never bothered trying to be better
Except Yuengling, they actually tried to be something greater
The only thing i didn't like was it was built on the ground. Why would you do that
If i remember correctly this Enterprise was built on the ground because it was also built to be able to operate within a planetary atmosphere so it's framework and basic structure was done on earth to ensure it was capable of that before being moved into space to finish the rest