where are the SUPERMAN games?
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- After an Unreal Engine 5 Superman open world demo went viral, it got me thinking about Superman games and why we don't have one in 2022.
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The game idea I keep getting is something like a character progression, starting as him in Smallville for a short period as a teen, and having the time jump forward through the game, but open areas of the game as it does. So, Metropolis opens next as open world with story (Rocksteady Arkham game style), then the world opens, and then a few other small sections of alien planets open to fight various alien enemies (Lobo, help Green Lanterns, etc.). Culminating with Cyborg jumping you to Apokalips to defeat Darkseid when he invades in the final act. Cameos from DC heroes can also help in parts of the game and you could go back and see past areas too. That is just my basic idea.
I was about to say! That picture is looking CRISP
So basically what you'd like is Smallville the game? I have to say that would be very interesting because full power superman is not something I feel has much potential because he's OP! lol 😋
Diggin that dog, that hot diggy dog 😆
So u and Angry Joe are in cahoots ~ good to know! lol He's the only guy i know who want superman game from any human i've met. Problem is always gonna be Tension villian and threat.
Superman is always gonna be boring.
Man, I'd love a Superman game with modern graphical power. The last one I played was Superman Returns on the PS2 and I used to have a blast with that.
I've never played a superman game but Imagine being superman that's all I need too hear, flying through metropolis random crimes, from space and normal ones, visiting the farm, and when you get close to the sun you gain a boost in stats for a certain amount of time, and the story can be a new take on his origin and superman doesn't have to be invincible for a game maybe just certain weapons or attacks or make him take less damage make some enemies with krptonite
Superman Returns was awesome!! It really was.
Man, I used to love that game. When you'd fly fast enough you would make a sonic boom... I never got tired of that feeling
@@redonkulasauruss EXACTLY BRO!! It really showed that sense of speed in an awesome way. And the combat was a bit janky, but when you got the timing down, there were quite a bit of cool combos u could pull off. But the flying man, that flying was awesome; imagine it in a smooth 60 frames per second.
The Superman 64 game was the last one I played, and I remember it vividly it was so bad. Back when Blockbuster was still around, that was literally the only game that we have EVER rented and immediately returned for something else. Would love to see one these days though for sure
I’d love a straight-up Superman game that really is inspired by his history in the comics. There are so many fantastic villains that haven’t been shown on the big screen that would be fantastic bosses to go up against.
One could easily imagine a Superman game where you cannot die, but the “health bar” is something like a Good vs. Evil meter, or perhaps an early Assassins Creed sync meter to determine how much you were adhering to Clark’s principles.
maybe a Collateral Damage meter or something.
@@JakeBaldino make it to where the city is slowly destroyed and superman realizes even with all his powers he alone cannot save everyone in a city let alone the world that decay is the natural state of a system that isnt upkept and even with his immense power there is only so much he can do
Similar to Dishonored.
this is actually quite literally how it worked in the Superman Returns game that jake mentioned. the "health bar" was the state of metropolis and its destruction, and you always wanted to make sure you kept collateral damage to a minimum
It either needs to be heavily story based with something about taking down lex luthor through means of the law or if you want cool intergalactic action, it can have enemy types with magical powers who, since we are assuming superman cannot be killed, who's purpose is to corner/trap superman in a spell or something. It can be like a dimension or something that superman can't escape so this gives him reason to fight them.
So if a player leaves the control and thinks superman wont die so it's fine, he will actually get trapped by the magic ability, game over, you failed to save the world.
And for big action, the villain needs to be a powerhouse such as Brainiac or Darkseid, someone who can and will put the hurt on superman.
Man I think you have such interesting takes, this is why I love being subscribed to you. Absolutely agree with the idea that they can pull off a Superman game and I had no idea the unreal engine thing existed! The focus never had to be Superman dying, and graphically I would love to see bullets bouncing off the S with the what we have today , the conflict being who he saves or how he does i mean this stuff can be done and your idea about a teenage superman game would be sick! I imagine the upgrade system finally maxing out making you the invincible superman you are supposed to be when you finally reached the end of the game🔥
Well said m8. And wholesome. Wish the rest of the internet was like this
@@toughluck8012 right back at you good friend!
All-Star Superman! Also, a Green Lantern game could be epic with alien worlds, and you could even have multiple playable characters/lantern-types with similar mechanics and nuances
Pretty interesting. I'm not a Superman fan myself but I like the discussion you brought up, the only real reason that Superman games failed in the past is really because gaming hardware wasn't ready for it, but it totally is now. I like the idea you brought up of "progressing as Superman", or getting his powers throughout the game. Maybe the villain could also progress in a way (throughout the story) and gain more knowledge of what Superman is, finally discovering kryptonite? That way even if you fully develop Superman, there's still that challenge in the end game.
Also I wonder, would this game have kind of a power system like inFamous, where you gain powers at certain points in the story and have free rein to upgrade whichever as you go? Or maybe you could have total freedom and you get to choose which powers you could develop as a young Clark Kent. That would probably be harder to design, but that'd be a really cool concept.
I think if there were to be any Superman game in current gaming, the idea you brought up of a young Clark developing his powers would work best in a video game sense. And for those wanting a power fantasy Superman, that could just be the post-game, lol
Yes, there certainly should be post-game content, particularly content that requires of all powers and upgrades to complete.
I can see the young Clark thing working, but going for a fully grown Superman works as well. Superman Returns had a cool concept of giving the city a health bar. And bosses would still be able to harm you (Superman has fought plenty of folks than can harm him; Kryptonite isn’t the only thing). As for upgrades, I mean it’s a video game. There are a lot of video games I’ve played where you can upgrade your characters. You don’t exactly have to make “sense” of the upgrades. Spider-Man and Batman don’t feel the need to apply a story reason to upgrades, so why should Superman?
A Superman game could DEFINITELY WORK, Superman is one of the most compelling characters in comics
A lot of people though either say he's "bOriNg" or a "GaRy SuE"
But if Done right you could be one of THE BEST GAMES OF ALL TIME
1. GAME MECHANICS
Don't Nerf his strength, make the player😊 control it,
Make a" sweet spot "meter
too much and you could cause too much collateral damage, too little and you can't save the day
It has to be just right, 👍
Also his flying gets faster and more powerful the more you use it
At a certain point you should be able to break the sound barrier and fly to other planets and galaxies 🌌☄️🚀
2. LEVELS
There'll be three levels to game based on Clark's identity
"CLARK KENT "the reporter 👨🏫, "SUPERMAN" the hero 🦸, and "KAL-EL" the alien 👽
The "CLARK KENT" levels we'll have you doing regular things, but also trying to uncover lex luthor's dirty dealings, acting a detective like in the Arkham games
"SUPERMAN" levels will have you on rescue missions, stopping robberies, and battling bad guys like Metallo, the Mxyzptlk, and lobo
The" KAL-EL" levels will have you dealing space matters, fighting with enemies like BRAINIAC, DARK SIDE, and discovering the history of Krypton and interacting around in the fortress of solitude
3 STORY
What makes Superman the great character is his humanity
He's not a dark and edgy person
He's not a paragon or a Gary Sue
He has lost many battles, hasn't been able to save countless people
But He often takes time off his day to help people in the smallest way he can
He's often have to cope and control his powers,
and being The last of his kind, he is often had no one to relate to
It's only his parents that made him the man he is because they love Clark for who he was
It's the small things that matter to him the most
People in this life that make it worthwhile
That's what the game should focus on most
The wisdom and responsibility he has for his self and for others of how we can be good people is what makes Superman great
Long live the Man of steel 🦸
Awesome video Jake! I LOVE the idea of setting it in Clark's younger years and seeing him develop his powers over time. I think that could be really interesting story wise as well as gameplay wise feeling that gradual progression!
Superman absolutely rocks and I hope we get to see a great game for him sometime soon!
Great video! Many interesting conversations to be had here!
That is the only way I can see superman in a game can work. Look, he's an overpowered superhero with not a lot of limitations. And despite what people think they want, limitations are what make games fun.
Like what makes insomniac's sunset overdrive so fun is that being on the ground is a death sentence. So it encourages grinding, wall running and bouncing off of objects.
With superman, how can his move set be fun at his peak? Flying especially. It can look cool, but looks can only last for so long
I would like to see Superman choose your path style similar to Dishonored. Have metropolis changes based on your decisions as well as the character. Different suits and maybe even alter his skill tree based off how you choose to tackle tough situations morally.
Love the new camera, looks good!
I'd be down for a superman game eventually, I really think it would be a good time.
It'll suprise everyone that what I really want is a game based on The Flash...
The Flash would be more fun to play as than Superman imo.
Yeah something with a renegade/paragon system would be heat. Making pulling your punches optional when fighting weaker opponents and sheeit like that could be interesting
I would love a Superman game!!!
Here’s my pitch: set the game in Smallville and have the game play like a Bully-style sim with Clark Kent as a teenager. He has to balance his powers with the desire to just be a regular kid. You can explore the small open world there as you build up your powers and begin to do hero-type activities. The story could explore an interesting twist on the relationship between Jonathan Kent and Clark, as well as flesh out the high school relationships with characters like Lana and Brad. The game ends culminating with Clark leaving Smallville to head North to the Fortress of Solitude. This is the first game, a sort of smaller adventure like Bully that sets the stage for a larger sequel.
The sequel has Clark becoming Superman in Metropolis. The sim elements remain with Superman having to manage his alter-ego at the Daily Planet. The open world has you walk around as Clark Kent, with the ability to change into Superman with the press of a button.
There can be a perfect Superman game! I would love an interpretation that focuses on a powerset the Superman: The Animated Series use, not super strong but still hope! With character/story writing like Insomniac and Santa Monica, both with Miles' side-missions which show a beautiful side of community which a Superman game NEEDS, and with God of War's main campaign that struggles with the humanity and complexity of relationships, which is perfect for Superman as well! Imagine using the Phantom Zone as a way to face strong Kryptonians or alien life-forms ala the Valkyries from God of War!
A game that covers all 10 seasons of Smallville that expands into a long term Superman story is what I’ve been looking for many years now!
I would love to see a Superman game! I would really enjoy an experience where you progressively unlock his powers. Like what Jake said about starting as a teenage Clark Kent and his journey to becoming Superman.
Nice new camera, Jake!! The camera really makes your background at the Gameranx office stand out even more so than before (specifically, the wall color looks even better than before)!👍🏻
Open world Superman game with Lex being the main villain who pulls out all the stops and all the all time great baddies to fight Superman. We have small Spider-Man esque side missions where he literally saves cats from trees and others where GL says he could use a hand or maybe Batman needs him to track down some intergang members who stole something from Gotham. The game opens with Superman stopping a car accident and then BOOM Metallo comes out and a boss fight ensues. We see Metallo, Bizaro, Mongul*, Lex Bots, Intergang, Kalibak*, Parasyte and maybe GeoForce. These will be the BIG boss fights and Kalibka and Mongul could have plot lines that extend to either DLC or a sequel. Personally I’d want a sequel that’s partially set on Monguls WarWorld where we see badass alien bosses and cool goons ending with an epic 1v2 Mongul and his wife V Superman.
I’d love a superman game based on the ‘Earth One’ series.. where you can progress powers as you become familiar with them, have sections where you are drained of your powers & the fear that he might one day accidentally hurt many people because he’s not aware of his own powers!
Whilst you can’t ‘die’ you can still be threatened or it could be that you fail to save people and the npc’s death is a way of failing?
Would like RPG choices mechanic too
And THINK of all the additional costumes you could wear 😻
Hey Jake, I’ve been subscribed to you for a while but don’t think I’ve ever commented on one of your videos. There was no way I was going to let the opportunity of replying to this video slip by! Thank you so much for this video…it’s like you’ve read my mind! I cannot believe were in 2022 & there’s no modern Superman video game (or at the very least, an announcement of one in development). I love your idea of starting out as Clark Kent then progressing to Superman. Sure, the Spider-Man games have been wildly successful but why has Superman seemingly been forgotten about? C’mon guys, it’s about time a Superman game was made. Make it happen!!!
If I recall, you can't die in any videogame. You fall down. You get a screen. You get up and do it again. That's a perfect Superman concept. You don't die. You rally for the next phase of a fight. Give you a powerup when you get to the end of your "life" bar.
"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way"
I think they could maybe go a smallville route, and have Clark discover his powers, maybe even a time jump later in the game where he's been superman for a year or 2, and the villains start showing up.
Or go the god of war 2 God of war 3 route. Opening mission superman is strong and fighting a villain and somehow loses his powers and has to regain them over the course of the game
With Discovery merging with Warner Brothers a modern Superman game might be just around the corner. Warner shelved a Rocksteady Superman game a few years ago, so maybe they can pick up from where they left off?
I think something that could be really interesting with a superman game is the feeling of having that much power but not being able to save everyone. Imagine a game that had a focus on saving as many people as possible, maybe a robbery in one place and a burning building in the other, and the goal is to use your powers in the most efficient and creative way to stop both. And you could do something like this alongside traditional combat against foes that can match superman (of which there are many).
A morality system also seems to fit perfectly for a superman game. Play around with the fact that superman doesn't kill people even if he easily can..
I think letting us feel as powerful as superman is and still having equal opponents is possible, just would require some out the box thinking.
Great video !
Maybe like a game like infamous or undertale where depending on how nice or evil you are you get a different endings and powers.
An evil super man where the town gets stronger stopping him or Superman that pulls its punches essential making yourself “vulnerable”. That can lead to different, abilities trees, play styles, difficulty customization. There would be replay ability, choose out of all the powers, and excuse to have increased difficulty.
I remember playing Superman Returns on PS2 and having a lot of fun just flying around or how quickly I could get from one end of the map to the other. Then on occasion fighting the enemy types of that game. I like the game idea you suggested where you are learning your powers, an origin story game... A little bonus thing/ detail I would add, have either the first 1 to 2 hours or just a small tutorial level in Smallville before going to Metropolis. But if they want to already go straight for a established Superman in game, they could simply just use an enemy or group of enemies that can do damage by using a story excuse that they are magic based. Either way I'm more than ready for another open world Superman game.
I’d be so fucking hyped for a Superman game. Him and Spider-Man are my two favorites and I’ve never played a Superman game
I've been waiting for a AAA flash game since I was a little kid reading the comics, I'm really hoping the new sonic game will somewhat scratch that itch
we were so close to having one! such a shame
@@JakeBaldino honestly they should have just released whatever they had I would have taken it
Who cares about flash
@@123lxxx6 literally me lol
@@Lucas_rosen07 no you wouldn't have lol
In Justice League Heroes you can play about any of the Justice bois, including superman. It was super fun back in the day, me and my cousins each had our own super boi picked out as a favorite. Mine was the flash because he's fast ⚡
I'm so glad somebody is acknowledging Superman Returns. I loved that game as a kid.
A Superman game would be cool but I think it would be really hard to do simply due to his power factor problem. Simply put Superman has god level power and I think making you feel like Superman will be really hard.
Not to mention maintaining some level of believable difficulty throughout the entire game and not just with boss battles..
Get him off earth for starters. 😉
Make it God of War style with all its linear and cinematic one shot cutscenes as well as its gameplay and gear and cosmetics just make it all Superman themed and we're all set.
If the only way to make your hero relatable is to put him in another solar system far far from a yellow sun...you might have made him a little too op. 🤔🤔
Here's my original idea. Have fun.
Act 1
Have Supes get transported to another planet or a huge asteroid with a krytonite core. He's in a prison deep underground.
He's on trial as the last Kryptonian as Krypton was responsible for the deaths on another world close by when it exploded.
He is weak, due to the krypto underground. He meets ppl, prison escape?
The higher up he literally levels, the stronger he gets.
Act 2?
Introduce magic. In the comics, Superman has a weakness to it.
I just love that you make videos like this. Honestly I can't remember when but you made a video I think on Gameranx talking about Fight Night and how much you wanted it to return, and ever since then I've been a fan of you Jake Baldino the person. And I would love to see a good Superman game with the new consoles and on PC.
speaking of DC stuff, imagine an open world Aquaman game👀👀 how CRAZY it’d be to explore the vast and deep oceans..
they can do so much with it. and it’d be awesome if you could swim into the darkest and deepest trenches and fight crazy monsters. find new worlds. crazy weapons and treasures.
UGHHHH DC make it happen!!
This is why I am subscribed. I saw the unreal footage and immediately wondered if you would make a video about it and boom. Haha thanks man.
The closest thing to a real ass Superman game is called *Megaton Rainfall* That game is ABSOLUTELY mindblowing, please check it out
Edit: you bringing up Asura's Wrath puts a smile on my face. I love how often you and Gameranx mention it. One of my favorite all time games.
Yeah but thats 1st person, and it doesn't make you feel like superman at all... The closest game to replicate superman is Undefeated
A good justice league game has always been a dream of mine. Honestly I'm down for pretty much any DC game they can come up with at this point.
@7:33 Jake just laid out the groundwork for a badass Superman game💯🔥🔥🔥 I hope Warner Bros. is taking note right now👀‼️
I'm 33 years old.. had a controller in my hand since I was 3 (Sonic 2 on Sega Megadrive was my first)
I have been waiting for so damn long for a good Superman game. At this point I'd do anything to play one.
I remember when I was a wee lad. I would always get a "superman" Ice cream cone at the mall. At the time it was the most delicious thing ever. As I got older, I realized it was just multi coloured vanilla ice cream 😂
I feel like there is a LOT of potential, I think that the margin for success is extremely narrow. Because from a story standpoint I think getting that done would be relatively straightforward, get a good team of writers and you could get a cromulent story. I think the problem arises with the gameplay loop. I think that there is definitely some group of people that, when they put their minds together, they can make a gameplay experience that can be immersive. But then with this kind of game, the risk of it being completely lack-luster gameplay wise is extremely high because of the nature of Superman's fights. A lot of his confrontations and stories aren't mortally threatening to Superman himself, but the world and the people around him, and translating that into gameplay is extremely difficult for even a seasoned developer to accomplish. Personally, I think maybe a Rogue-like using time manipulation could work (idk, Superman gets thrown back in time and he has to fight his way back to the boss every time after hes thrown back) or perhaps a extremely well thought out open world, or hell something along the lines of a game light Sifu where you are extremely engaged with the combat but the risk is high because Clark's been deprived of his powers or some crap like that. Nevertheless, it's a task to get the gameplay down. I love good Superman stories, so I hope a team can set out and back one home, but I think we might not get one for some time more until someone figures out how to get it done.
That mod is amazing! Idk if I would ever play a Superman game, but this could be fun! Old “Art Deco” style Superman would be rad
I played the Arkham trilogy religiously, and when we got the news that there was this new unannounced game from rocksteady, there was some rumors it was going to be a superman game. It turned out to be the 4th installment of batman but before I knew that I just kept fantasizing what it would be like to play superman in a game that plays just like Arkham. Like all the gadgets that Batman uses would be replaced by superman's eye beam, ice breath, etc.
I'd love something that brings back the comic style graphics similar to Ultimate SpiderMan, think it could be very beneficial engine and optimization wise aswell.
I really enjoy the experience of being OP in a video game. I think part of the reason everyone likes super hero games is because of that unstoppable feeling you get playing as a Spider-man, Wolverine, or even Batman. Lets be honest, taking out dozens of armed men with ease is unrealistic. Why not a superman game.
For level progression they could go the route of Mister Mxyzptlk taking his powers or depowering him. There could be a whole game on him escaping the phantom zone with a lower power level but learning more skills and interesting ways to use powers other than beating on things. There are literally decades of comics to pull from, it shouldn't be that hard if developers are willing to look (IMO). Superman's weakness has always been his struggle to help EVERYBODY because he's so insanely powerful, imagine a game where you had to make choices on who to save and then dealing with the consequences.
I personally would love really love a Superman game with Clark Kent teaching his son Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self becoming a great hero similar to the new god of war game because that would be really awesome and tons of fun.
I believe a Superman game would have to have something extra about it to be fun. Because like you said we have had these super hero sims that are pretty much Superman. A destructible city would be awesome. You as Superman have to minimize damage to buildings when fighting or flying. Idk something like that
A superman game where you can fly to other planets saving other planets from trouble and so on, so much stuff they could put in a superman game
I think a good superman game should kinda incorporate the sekiro, jedi fallen order stance brake system, because you would want to feel powerful as superman, so one hit should knock out an enemy but to get to that hit there should be stance braking kinda thing, just how a light sabre feels powerful in fallen order
I totally agree with you Jake, you can have a challenging game without the constant element of death in a superman game. I'm still waiting for a Highlander game that I'll never get😖
Superman can be done with the games we had like Superman Returns and the Lego games with Superman. It can be done, hopefully they announce it soon.
while were talking about Superman I just want to say it drives me crazy so many people write him as evil for elseworlds or just completely get him wrong to the point his reputation has been destroyed with the help of some other things. and I hate that people think hes lame and op. A good Superman game game could really fix his reputation.
i went in your video opposed to the idea and the more you went on. i warmed up to it. i would love a good sandbox or story driven superman game given legitimate love and care. lets make it happen. great video my friend
All I’m asking is no zodd there’s loads of Superman enemies we’ve just seen that specific one a lot
There are hundreds of ways to do a Superman game. Plenty of physical threats and plot devices to use its pretty easy.
I know I’m about to get torched for this but I kinda want a Super Sons game. You can switch up gameplay between Jon, who is figuring out his powers, and Damian who is essentially a league of assassins level martial artist ( maybe like Sifu ). You can splash in some Superman and Batman here and there.
I would love a story-based game similar to the Tomb Raider style of play where you could make the fortress of solitude the home base of Superman! It would be cool to be able to fast travel there as you're developing your powers and facing different bosses along the way. I would love it to be open world. That would be outstanding. Great video!
I completely agree with you on everything you said. I'm also one of the people that loved Man of Steel.
And I'd be perfectly fine playing as Superman who can't be hurt. As long as I have his powers, I'll have fun for hours. Then they could add other Kryptonian characters like Zod, who can hurt you. There's so many possibilities, and since I love Superman, I'm ready for any of them.
Amen!! This conversation needs to happen more
Superman Returns had a learning curve.
For a PS2 game it wasn't bad.
Guess Superman 64 didn't have the legs on it that we All thought.
There were two things I really liked about the Superman Returns video game. First, I felt that they nailed the flying gameplay. That was really fun. Second, using the city as a "health meter" was a really cool idea. Since Superman is basically invulnerable, that was an interesting way of adding tension to battles. I'd like it if they'd make a AAA Superman game. They could always lessen his powers like they did in the animated series so you're not indestructible. I'd be ok with that.
I've got a suggestion in realistically "nerfing" Superman -- Kryptonite towers are scattered throughout Metropolis, destroying one essentially "levels him up" we can add some twists where some towers can only be found and destroyed via story missions, defeating strong enemies guarding the thing or have them be scavenger hunt puzzles a la Riddler segments from the Arkham games
I myself am not a huge superman fan per-say but I love comics and so I have a crazy amount of respect for the character, I would love a game that is to superman what Arkham is to Batman, sure some issues but generally considered peak fiction about the character. The most interesting thing to me is that it would be a power fantasy game in an open world that wouldn't involve being morally grey or darker, seeing as the power fantasy games that really come to my mind are Prototype 1 and 2, Infamous and very little else, so being able to go around feeling that powerful and actually saving people instead of turning them to gore would be a nice change. final thing I could add here on my thoughts would be a Parasite boss battle IDK how they could do it but a boss that relies on you using your abilities in the most clever ways possible is always something I want from games.
I'd love to see a dark/light alignment type of story driven Superman game. It worked for Spiderman web of shadows, and infamous. I love those games!
So basically smallville the game . Give a lot of leeway in terms of being able to build up super man , have the upgrade tree if their is one achievable enough where it’s literally impossible to not be SUPERMAN by the time the final boss rolls around . And having him young trying to work for the paper would be some fantastic Spider-Man parallels so vast majority of people feel welcomed by the feeling of familiarity . Plus a young Clark Lois relationship could also mimic the whole mj peter thing from ps4 . Side missions like read dead or gta where you’re just going through the open world and you happen to be on the ground and a young Barry Allen runs you down and he asks how you survived him running into you . Just spittin ideas
That T-shirt is so confusing and I love it
New camera looks great man!
He's definitely a tricky character to design, especially with regards to combat, but as you said, with a good team that have the right resources available there's the potential to create a truly unique video game, let alone one involving Superman. I think the future is open for Superman to have his resurgence and would love to see one of these studios pick up his license
Remember the neon speed power from Infamous Second Son? It let you run fast, run up walls etc. and if you upgraded the power it was basically infinite. I would love to see a flash game using a similar mechanic and control to that.... maybe also have a mode that slows down the world around you.
As far as Superman goes I think you can make it a challenge.... "intergang has been using high tech weapons that we think are coming from Apokolips" give your goons weapons that can mess with Superman.... sonic guns that stun him, power gauntlets that have a little kryptonite in them for enhanced punching, stuff like that. Then your bosses, Bizarro, Metallo, Parasite.... they are already threats to Superman.
Also work in some elements from the Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Let superman use the environment.... have him able to hit people with cars and tie them up with lamp posts that he bends.
What we need as well as a game is a "the batman" fresh take superman movie. Drum up enthusiasm for the character again, will get people to think "okay, let's try a superman game". These decisions are clearly made based on the mood of the zeitgeist so to speak.
We don't need a "fresh take" on Superman. We need the old school, true-blue, "goody two-shoes" classic Superman(arguably now more than ever).
Another great video ! Great points and I agree with you whole heartedly. Thanks for the great content ! Much love and appreciation always!
Thanks!
Totally agree with Jake. And he is the only person who like me, thought Superman Returns wasn’t that bad of a Superman game; I loved it to be honest. It gave an awesome sense of speed. And as far as the combat, I got used to the jank and was able to pull all the combos off. If they designed a new Superman game in the vein of Superman Returns but added all the technological advancements of 2022, we could have a winner folks.👍🏽👍🏽
Just use kryptonite to keep the gameplay interesting, u can even use different types if u want to for different affects. That’d make fighting certain enemies all the more challenging bc not everyone can kill u, and it’d make it even more rewarding to defeat them, especially bosses.
And/or magic. Another one of is weaknesses.
@@lycanwarrior2137 didn’t even think of that but good idea, u could also have strong enemies that do grab moves and u have to spam a button to break free (like the thugs that grab u in Arkham) and if u don’t they do something like snap ur neck or something (I.e. what Superman did to Zod in mos).
We already have a great template to use for a Superman game. It's Superman: Shadow of Apokolips for PS2. So many people don't know about this great Superman game. If developers just took that style and gameplay and polished it we could have something amazing.
Just frustrating
I think more of the map and gameplay....because the map should be huge....and as far as I know. Super man doesn't use any gadgets or weapons...
It can have some puzzles u can solve using x-ray vision and eye beams to power up things..
Hmmmm ...it makes me curious to what would a game Dev do with superman
now that massive worlds can load in faster than ever it's time for Superman or the Flash
@@JakeBaldino you're right....games with massive worlds already exist ..from Microsoft flight simulator to no man's sky
Superman return was one of my favorite game on the PS2 I wonder what happened now because coming back and talking about Superman game what is the next Superman game on the next gen console thank you Jake let's see what's next
I couldn’t agree more! My ideal Superman game would be 3 acts:
1. Teenage Clark heavily influenced by TV show Smallville(make Tom Welling the actor too)
2. Superman’s origin with General Zod as the villain
3. A well done Death of Superman adaptation with all 4 replacement Supermen and then Clark triumphantly returns at the end
To me, making it challenging sounds somewhat easy to do. You know how they say that "nice finish last" that can be the challenge in a superman game. While on earth you could worry about something akin to honor meter in RDR2. And maybe you could also visit Krypton where Superman may have to worry about an actual HP as well. While on earth make him care about HPs of others and the honor.
I have been wanting a Superman game for years! I think there is so much fun to be had with a Superman game. I've recently been reading more Superman comics and I love the character so much more I really hope we see a new Superman film soon too whether it be a Man of Steel sequel or more like The Batman where its Clarks early days of being a hero.
I love the idea of a Superman game growing up with super powers type of thing!
I would love a superman game where the choices and actions that are taken in both dialogue and gameplay will have a fundamental change in the game, like very hard decisions. And also lets you play as Clark Kent in order to investigate other stories at the ground level. Also a levelling system where you'd maybe have to go to the fortress of solitude to level up. Something along those lines might be cool
Give him a morale system where if you choose to kill the bosses as opposed to just knocking them out and the endings we could get is the Superman we know or the darker evil Superman
Jake the question is where are the Gambit games and movie
the gambit movie is officially dead and least and I'm kind of glad. I love Gambit as a 90's kid but I wasn't really into some weird misguided attempt
Act 1
Have Supes get transported to another planet or a huge asteroid with a krytonite core. He's in a prison deep underground.
He's on trial as the last Kryptonian as Krypton was responsible for the deaths on another world close by when it exploded.
He is weak, due to the krypto underground. He meets ppl, prison escape?
The higher up he literally levels, the stronger he gets.
Act 2?
woah. that's a pretty cool and very comic book idea.
I know you said you don't care much for the details of the Warner Discovery merger but some interesting news from that and related to this has come out, 1) the new bosses feel that Superman has been underutilized for too long and want to make him a big deal again and 2) presumably they want WB Interactive to make a lot more games, so it could just be a matter of time till we get a new good Superman game.
I can imagine the flight tutorial section as a flashback sequence in the fields of Smallville.
And like in the Spider-Man game, they could even have you take control of Steel or Superboy, maybe while Supes has “died” at the hands of Doomsday.
I also think there could be a city/civilian damage meter that you'd have to keep low
My favorite heros have always been Batman, Spiderman, and Wolverine. Superman stuff never grabbed me beyond bat family and justice league stuff. BUT I'd play the hell out of a Superman game.
My ideal game would have him learning his powers and basically becoming Superman. I think a super interesting game design opportunity for a character who rarely has the opportunity to die would be to just have the consequences of failed missions play out. You didn't save that building from collapsing? It's gone now. You didn't stop the jail break? There's criminals all over the city to deal with now. I think a reputation system could also be built off of this and make for a super interesting story. Sort of how Heavy Rain or Until Dawn handled character deaths, you just keep going even if some of your characters die. But it's probably too risky for a big budget Superman game.
You mentioned the flash... then my brain instantly wondered off about what a flash game could look like.🧐
Im ready for that!
I’d love a Batman game with the nemesis system that would be so cool you could have all the iconic villains on top smaller villains lower down that can move up and you could get a low level crook who moves his way up to a mob boss
I would just say put him against people that would “compete” with Superman
Spitballing for a 'superman can't be killed' workaround, that also allows for a skill tree: make him invincible during the tutorial, with a similar structure to the fisk takedown in Spider-Man PS4. Have it be a Supes vs. Luthor mission, which ends with a kryptonite powered diabolis ex machina stripping him of his invulnerability, and all but his most basic powers (flight, speed, strength, and heat vision). Then come up with a plot device to gradually remove the kryptonite, unlocking more powers as the player progresses through the plot.
Even without this sort of plot device though, i honestly think that most players would be willing to suspend disbelief for the sake of gameplay. Spider-man and Batman also shouldn't really be able to lose to grunts like they do in their most popular games, but you dont see people complaining about that.
Hell, Lego Superman can already die in most of his appearances (albeit with a bit of effort) and no one complains about that!
I'd honestly ut want to see stories that flesh out and solidify the lore and explains the all the retcons and stuff like how about we get a full history of of krypton that incorporates all the disporate origins, or like explain why there are so many parasites, and metallos and weird family members we never heard from, or all the stuff in the phantom zone etc etc same thing for all the dc heroes is too much to ask to have a single narrative that we can follow with these characters
I'm surprised the game demo Undefeated wasn't mentioned, as it fits into the superman game ideas or showing it can be done.
or rather what it could look like
I don't remember Superman Returns having a game at all. I first thought Jake was talking about Superman 64, now THAT was a train wreck.
All-Star Superman in chronological order from the Smallville chapter to Superman 1 Million!!!
I would love to have a revival of the Blue Steel project from Factor 5 before they closed down in 08. The concept footage looked really good.
+1 .. not 100% what you're looking for Jake but.. I still occasionally play DCUO, DC Universe Online.. think WoW but you create your own superhero and interact with DC characters, including supes. Graphically its UR3/2011.. but they used a very comic book style to it. They have Metropolis and Gotham as full cities.. so much so, I feel I know my way around and I know those cities (I have 6000h + inc being league staff).. still gets content every three to four months and right now its FTP with minimal restrictions. just FYI :)
I been wanting a superman game for so long.