@@kamps4924and is a miracle worker and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and I am a mir80 of the Word of God that means he is a miracle worker and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend 😂of
I was aware that it’s too late to pose a question and it might not be related to this vodcast. Now the MK party brought the term of GNU by SABC to the court. Before that, Helen Zille and Alan Winde kept indicating that the current form of the Gov’t is not a GNU but a grand coalition. Just out of curiosity, What was the intention behind that the DA voiced occasionally? I guess Helen Zille would probably not like the President to take advantage of the form of Gov’t as using the term GNU, which is catering to his (the President viz. the ANC) political advances and at the same time, perhaps she would be insinuating what the DA can do if it is being coined as A Grand Coalition. I would be grateful if you could please share your thoughts about it.
Malema is a strong leader he will rise. Let's hope Zuma will keep his promise to Floyd what ever he promise him. Let them all go as long as malema remain we are fine
I am a Geography major in the USA and I am learning a lot about South African politics here. Wonderful first live-stream. I am interested in international politics and I have to say South Africa has been the best geopolitical telenovela in recent times. So much going on that is unexpected and new these days. Keep it up!
Lol, the US remains the greatest political telenovela hey. DEI hires and their incompetency in the Trump attempted assassination, to deep state "selection" of the brand new black Miss all-indian Kamala as presidential candidate who appears to be involved in a soft coup against Sleepy Joe with all three supporting genocide. Ain't that the best telenovela🤷🏽😀
@@user-gz7cb5ew4p honestly fair point, the USA is founded on the idea of "too big to fail" though, so USA politics is pretty boring. Internationally, parliaments host real discussions, the US Congress has become a stage for political extremists to get soundbites. USA politics is super boring, but at least in South Africa there is dynamism afoot.
We should follow one another and share some knowledge. I'm also interested in international politics and I'd love to exchange knowledge with someone outside my country and who is informed about world events, it widens one's horizon.
I don't think there is anything wrong happening in eff. The 2 parties need each other mk have resources but need someone of Floyd's calibres to help administrate policy and other aspects politically related.For the 2 to help each other is important as the only progressive parties of note we have. I should include the mtn but unfortunately they are not doing anything for the party to grow, they are stacked with church members hoping things will happen for themselves which is not correct.
My heart is literally broken I was in a meeting when you went live... But the fire must spread even in ones absence #AYEYE Also if people can't empathise with Malema losing a friend on live tv then we know how lost we are cause the pain in his face is speaking in a universal tongue
Msholozi,Floyd and Julius this are Brothers In Arm, the move I personally like we are behind you Comrades keep the fire burning we need to fight.Aluta Continue
Bro I also feel the same, Floyd could of done it little bit later than now soon after , Malema got really underpressure after 6% pendemic, and the only person seem to be his pillar of strength is Floyd , i dont knw what happened but I think Floyd shud have stuck to end
His heart will mend, it’s good to see that it was indeed to good to be true. The Greens internationally took ages to build. Look at them now, thy are important party in many countries.
As a Pan-Africanist, living in the US, after I had listened to a couple of speeches from Mr Malema, I immediately became a fan or supporter of EFF. When I listen to members of MK it appears both EFF and MK have pretty much same idealogy philosophy. So, I like both parties.
@patrickthorp3816, lol. Your comment instantly shows how small your brain is. You need to know that not all Africans who are living outside of Africa had actually ever lived in Africa. What are exactly your issues with EFF and MK? Don't beat around the buches. Just go straight to the point.
Don't get too excited... this same revolution has finished in most the rest of Africa...complete shitholes, but don't let that put you off. Actually you could move to say Zimbabwe now and experience the revolution now?
No chance. Floyd is the sophistication behind the administrative and political machinery of the EFF. Julius is behind the tactics, which cannot move without the two.
@@peterbrigden2124 you were just too quick to go after Malema and forgot to say HEADLINES but wrote what you did. Any man has his hard moments, never make a mockery out of it🤛
This messed up my day. I actually thought I was dreaming opening RUclips and seeing him reading his statement. Anyway, I’ll support both MKP and EFF. Brothers For Life.
Same here... Yo... So what u expecting bro. Do u think such move from such long commitment for eff being denied in short period wiil accepted as a real loyal by other party mk... Just curious...
Love the live thing .. I did my 1st live stream on another channel last year with load shed, a small inverter and 4 G .. it all works .. more so daily you are becoming THE news!
@@eliudnkuna3930a Dirty Game at That. Floyd aligned with a party, who wants to save ANC. Makes we wonder if ANC didn’t send him to finish EFf anyway and now their bigger threat is MK, so he has been deployed!
@@legran25 True, it looks like a deployment to infiltrate the already crumbling MKP. The people that will be deployed in parliament won't make any impact to MKP members, they are not populist.
@@NgolaNalanethose are some of the things Floyd will be working on... Policy Development, Political Leadership, currently MK is led by a Judge and a PR guy.... Now there are 16 vacant seats in the MK benches and others will be following Floyd.
There is no crisis. This is meant for political alignment. If anyone thinks this is a crisis they are naive. This is a response to the alignment between ANC and DA and Floyed will bring much needed political education within MKP. This is a product of strategic alignment and reasoning between JZ and Julius Malema. The political heavyweights of our time. If you think this was not planned you are naive. In very simple terms, this is a deployment. Great move by the way. Maybe the boldest political move in 30 years. There is only one person Malema trusts and that's Floyd, this assignment could not have been given to anyone else.
How long will you feed yourself lies until you realize what's everyone seeing. If EFF and MKP are realigning then why would Floyd resign and abandon his membership. The MKP can sign a memorandum of understanding with the EFF stating their agreement and intentions. Don't suffer from conspiracy theories and visions of grandeur where Malema and Zuma are mastermind beyond reality. Floyd need space to grow and pursue his ideas. His tired of being the sidekick of Malema and having to agree with Malema on every matter that he has a different opinion on. Malema threatened Floyd on national television on post election press conference.
I am lost for the first time since 2012 when ANC expelled Malema. . Never ever I questioned my home, EFF, in the past 11 years. I am so angry and sad .
This changes the political landscape big time. ANC and DA is going to suffer. For the first time I wake up with 2 choices when I vote. I am sure that a lot of people will be like me. MK will attract other constituencies they never attracted before.
Good wishes to the ex DP of EFF, but for him joining MKP, is a bit of a question mark? MKP doesn't have a solid foundation,...but who knows, things could turnaround by the new Captains,...
@@lungsta8436 Floyd is going to help MKP to build proper structures and a political direction that will resonate with many! Floyd is one of the best political organisers in the land.
@@njabulongema3748 I hear you Sir, and I've also picked that up in his resignation speech. Will these new formations change the whole political spectrum in Mzants & the rest of the Continent? At the moment there's a lot going on in the Political Arena in SA.
Well done in getting your livestream up and running and well presented, Sipho. Your assessments were, I think, SPOT ON !!! YOUR OBJECTIVE, UNBIASED analysis is one of your STRONG points. Keep it like that.
Congratulations my brother for the milestone of being able to kick start your 1st ever live even if I missed it but I'm happy I'm here now,please keep on being there for us young man we learn a lot from you
We haven’t forgotten that EFF said they would participate in coalition govt but without Ramaphosa. Then later Malema went crawling to Ramaphosa asking to join but Ramaphosa snubbed him and stuck to DA bcos he knew EFF were dead in the water.
But the DA said the same thing though.💁🏽♂️ I think Ramaphosa chose to work with the DA because he's a capitalist, with interests in keeping the status quo.
Great move by Floyd,i am an EFF supporter i know what Floyd did there he realized with the EFF he won't be the president soon but with the MK, he's definitely going to be the president soon so great political move by Floyd
If Floyd becomes MK party president, then it confirms my suspicions that EFF had a snake in their camp, hence the dismal performance during elections & that 🐍 is......Shiv
It's indeed a sad moment not only for South Africa but Africa and Namibia in particular, please, I hope Adv Dali SC is not next. Please tell the people's advocate to stay home. He's part of a solid foundation of EFF.
I am an outsider but keen on SA politics since Mandela time. I believe the move by the deputy, EEF is tactical aimed at infiltrating Zuma’s party with the objective of gradually swallowing it by EEF. My take!
I don't think so... there's no enmity between the two parties....the aim is to strengthen their political position...the rightist parties have already consolidated...it's a good time for democracy...
The outward appearance by both Malema and Shivambo during the briefing with the media remains an appearance. There is no conflict between the two leaders. They know what they are doing.
I don't think that EFF is approaching an end as a result of this announcement. The party has seen leaders leaving the organisation shortly after its formation, and it continued to grow stronger to what it is today. So if anything the party is likely to recover from the losses it suffered from the previous elections.
I will say this yet again undermine MKP at your own peril 🤞🏾 Msholozi has done his job it all depends to the leadership to not let this train derail it seturnly is the last train and the last hope for a black child and all who believes in free fair and just country I welcome Comander Shivambu what a great move you surprised all of us yet with joy and hi appreciation phambili nge MKP❤
We live in interesting times. This is a significant moment in SA’s changing political landscape. So much to process and reflect on. “There are no permanent enemies or friends in politics, just permanent interests.” 🛣️
@@Bommogo Really? Have you done your research on historic dictators? Remember Idi Amin? You are delusional thinking a dictatorship would work in South Africa The election results speak for themselves. The electorate were unhappy and voted accordingly and will continue to do so. The EFF and MKP had a perfect opportunity to join the ANC but they were arrogant in their requirements which resulted in them being sidelined and the ANC chose their GNU partners from other non-black parties. Ex-ANC ministers are already being shown up as corrupt, and the new ministers are shaking the trees with investigations into non-performance which SAns are in favour of.
As much as I want to comment on the contents of the stream but I'm just so impressed with the production quality. Ydm you had inserts live, well done Sizwe and tram 🎉🎉🎉
MK also lacks experienced politicians, in saying that MK should have empowered their inexperienced politicians instead of fracturing the African votes further.
I never saw something like this coming but i will continue as EFF member. Is the only party that make sense to me and its principles and the vision of this country. Viva EFF Viva
The political climate is changing very fast, SACP cannot extricate itself from the Alliance which has since expanded into what we know as GNU. The climate has room for the SACP to go independent and make new friends
This is a political strategy to consolidate the progressive forces in a structured manner. MK needs a proper process of building and organising a structure. Its a big move and could be a game changer if executed well
The number of EFF members going to MK should be 18...make that 16 now...considering Floyd and Manyi. The arrival of MK has necessitated a change in strategy.
I don't think this is the end of EFF already a group of EFF members back in 2019 wanted Adv Dali Mpofu to be a Deputy President I think there're still credible leaders in the EFF unless they also leave then. I also think he made a mistake MK might have gained so much votes but i dont believe in its future
It's certainly not an end to the EFF. He did not make a mistake with Mkp. He will build MKP brick by brick and bring it to where it needs to be. Floyd is good in management, mobilizing and building foundation of the o
Carl niehaus ..Jimmy Manyi are not to be counted they don't form any strong part in the existence of eff ...hence they are rolling stones and power mongers
@@flavaofthemonth8786yes we need that experience of Floyd yet not destroy Eff the mutual existence of the two movements is crucial for reconstruction of our revolution broken by the anc
The Progressive Caucus is cooking and the stove is on 9!!! What's interesting for me is to consider the Risks and threats to this move🤔 Stay tuned, it's gonna be blockbuster!🔥🔥🔥
Love your allusions to both Shakespearean revenge tragedy, and the strategy of chess - as ways of understanding the dynamics of the political landscape of South Africa. Your frequent use of the word “organic “ is also particularly useful in this respect.
For EFF members. There are four stages of grieve: 1) Stage 1: Denial (Its a strategic move by Malema & Zuma to consolidate power (Current) 2) Stage 2: Anger of Floyd future success in MKP (Coming soon) 3) Stage 3: Bargaining ( attempts by EFF to petition Floyd to rejoin EFF from MKP) 4) Stage 4: Acceptance Floyd is gone and not coming back (Move on)
Don't worry rather be happy .THEY PLANNED THIS, WE WIĹL CELEBRATE EVENTUALLY 🎉🎉🎉..Listen to what MALEMA said: I will welcome you back if you so wish 😅😅 regardless of the rules 😂🎉.
My school of thought with this is about Floyd getting more room in MK to establish himself and to consolidate progressive forces. There will be a dent in EFF and Zuma is eyeing those seasoned young politicians to spearhead revolution besides Ramaphosa.
watching after life chat... The news came as shock to me, but Floyd joining MKP isn't so much a loss...The two parties are not so apart in terms of policies. Thank you SMWX... One channel I always recommend to my pupils to follow. Too informative...Too educational😄
Our first ever livestream was a success! The SMWX fam stays innovating and growing. Ayeye! 😁🔥
Nice one Team 👍🏾
@@kamps4924and is a miracle worker and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and I am a mir80 of the Word of God that means he is a miracle worker and a great friend of mine and a great friend of mine and a great friend 😂of
Why does he go by Floyd when he has such a cool first name ... Nyiko !!!
The way I ignored the noise waiting on how you would explain this mess and now realizing you had a live 😢tjo 😂
I was aware that it’s too late to pose a question and it might not be related to this vodcast.
Now the MK party brought the term of GNU by SABC to the court. Before that, Helen Zille and Alan Winde kept indicating that the current form of the Gov’t is not a GNU but a grand coalition. Just out of curiosity, What was the intention behind that the DA voiced occasionally?
I guess Helen Zille would probably not like the President to take advantage of the form of Gov’t as using the term GNU, which is catering to his (the President viz. the ANC) political advances and at the same time, perhaps she would be insinuating what the DA can do if it is being coined as A Grand Coalition.
I would be grateful if you could please share your thoughts about it.
Malema is a strong leader he will rise. Let's hope Zuma will keep his promise to Floyd what ever he promise him. Let them all go as long as malema remain we are fine
Zuma and promise in our sentence😂
@@musamsane7311😅😂
I am a Geography major in the USA and I am learning a lot about South African politics here. Wonderful first live-stream. I am interested in international politics and I have to say South Africa has been the best geopolitical telenovela in recent times. So much going on that is unexpected and new these days. Keep it up!
Lol, the US remains the greatest political telenovela hey. DEI hires and their incompetency in the Trump attempted assassination, to deep state "selection" of the brand new black Miss all-indian Kamala as presidential candidate who appears to be involved in a soft coup against Sleepy Joe with all three supporting genocide. Ain't that the best telenovela🤷🏽😀
@@user-gz7cb5ew4p honestly fair point, the USA is founded on the idea of "too big to fail" though, so USA politics is pretty boring. Internationally, parliaments host real discussions, the US Congress has become a stage for political extremists to get soundbites. USA politics is super boring, but at least in South Africa there is dynamism afoot.
We should follow one another and share some knowledge. I'm also interested in international politics and I'd love to exchange knowledge with someone outside my country and who is informed about world events, it widens one's horizon.
@@TrevorJC welcome ... SA is rhe most exciting place! Politics is like a circus ... entertaining while terribly sad.
@@TrevorJC im enjoying watching the downfall of Trump.
I have a conspiracy theory...
Floyd didn't go - he was sent. Hence he will be allowed back.
I have that lingering feeling too, so they all can join later
i bet my money on you
@@mossfairy3060 if eff loses the foreigner view
Why are they doing backdoor things instead of just joining all together? Nakhona both MK and EFF they have members they are accountable to
It's a loan deal..it's like sundowns and Supersport..for Floyd to help Mkhonto ...
Sizwe is EFF at heart.
Very good strategic move between MK and Eff the progressive forces. Floyd is going to help formulate policies and strategic plans. I salute
He couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
He's going for presidency🤞
@@tameimpala37🙄🙄🙄
Why keep them seperate?
Abahambe abahambayo sizosala siyincenga Viva EFF viva
Ngiyayivumela ingoma nami
😂😂😂
Sosala siyincenga
I don't think there is anything wrong happening in eff. The 2 parties need each other mk have resources but need someone of Floyd's calibres to help administrate policy and other aspects politically related.For the 2 to help each other is important as the only progressive parties of note we have. I should include the mtn but unfortunately they are not doing anything for the party to grow, they are stacked with church members hoping things will happen for themselves which is not correct.
Cde Dali knows what's happening inside EFF and you're speed-dial away from him. Sizamele the real mgozi Sizwe please
Lool😂simple
lol 😂 this is why I’m watching this
Its crazy how many times I checked for your response since the press conference, SMWX's opinion is the one that matters🙂
Same here 🤦🏽♂️😅
Facts 💯💯💯💯
I smiled reading your comments. Because sane here.
Obviously with daddy reps both parties he is split on responding 😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@julienicks8691
My heart is literally broken I was in a meeting when you went live...
But the fire must spread even in ones absence #AYEYE
Also if people can't empathise with Malema losing a friend on live tv then we know how lost we are cause the pain in his face is speaking in a universal tongue
😂😂😂 'the fire must spread even in one's absence '
He is gone, he must not be coming back traiter 😢
You have Ubuntu.
I am not Malema supporter but respect him and his vision.
He plays a vital role.
Viva Malema.
Stay strong.
Can we Have Gogo Aubrey Matshiqi to come and Unpack this Big Move 👏👏👏👏
Why call him Gogo not Mkhulu?
Yes Yes Yes...
Am with you , i qoute he said Zuma is not done and he is not
Msholozi,Floyd and Julius this are Brothers In Arm, the move I personally like we are behind you Comrades keep the fire burning we need to fight.Aluta Continue
I am heart broken for Julius!
I'm not an eff member, but l feel for Julius, he is heart broken😢
Bro I also feel the same, Floyd could of done it little bit later than now soon after , Malema got really underpressure after 6% pendemic, and the only person seem to be his pillar of strength is Floyd , i dont knw what happened but I think Floyd shud have stuck to end
i also sometimes have sympathy with little hitler wannabes
His heart will mend, it’s good to see that it was indeed to good to be true. The Greens internationally took ages to build. Look at them now, thy are important party in many countries.
Same😭😭💔Malema is hurt
😂 I feel for those who bealive Eff and mk is not one thing
As a Pan-Africanist, living in the US, after I had listened to a couple of speeches from Mr Malema, I immediately became a fan or supporter of EFF. When I listen to members of MK it appears both EFF and MK have pretty much same idealogy philosophy. So, I like both parties.
Such a fan of what their ideologies do to the rest of Africa that you live in US.lol
@patrickthorp3816, lol. Your comment instantly shows how small your brain is. You need to know that not all Africans who are living outside of Africa had actually ever lived in Africa. What are exactly your issues with EFF and MK? Don't beat around the buches. Just go straight to the point.
No crisis in the EFF, just evolution of the revolution
Don't get too excited... this same revolution has finished in most the rest of Africa...complete shitholes, but don't let that put you off. Actually you could move to say Zimbabwe now and experience the revolution now?
EFF will Forever be stronger no matter what Floyed you are free to Explore , wish you a very warm stay at MK.
EFF appeals to the uneducated youth. They are fools.
Headines, Friday 16th August ? EFF calls it a day as it's leaders have gone and Malema is now crying his eyes out,💯💯😂😂🤔🤔🤔😈😈
No chance. Floyd is the sophistication behind the administrative and political machinery of the EFF. Julius is behind the tactics, which cannot move without the two.
@@The_Truth777 ...end days. Juju is far too authoritarian. That's not appealing to most.
@@peterbrigden2124 you were just too quick to go after Malema and forgot to say HEADLINES but wrote what you did. Any man has his hard moments, never make a mockery out of it🤛
This messed up my day. I actually thought I was dreaming opening RUclips and seeing him reading his statement. Anyway, I’ll support both MKP and EFF. Brothers For Life.
please move to zimbabwe and enjoy the fruits of eff/mk economic and social policy for yourself!!
Same here... Yo... So what u expecting bro. Do u think such move from such long commitment for eff being denied in short period wiil accepted as a real loyal by other party mk... Just curious...
@@sebatolle8979 Does it make you feel any better about yourself insulting a stranger on RUclips? Maybe not. Why not try to engage constructively?
@@birukmengesha2393 I believe it’s a consolidation of the progressive left. So in the long term it will be a good thing for the radical left.
Me too, I'm gutted
Love the live thing .. I did my 1st live stream on another channel last year with load shed, a small inverter and 4 G .. it all works .. more so daily you are becoming THE news!
I believe it was a great move from Floyd, I think he will be the next president of MK
My thoughts but haven't listened yet. He reached the ceiling in the EFF.
Are the other members going to agree?
No eventually Eff will collide with MK and Malema will become President of this country.....
@@nozibusisozikalala5070 MKP will always have more numbers then the EFF, so how can he be president with lower numbers
Plz guys let's not try create tension between MK & EFF, I'm MK but EFF deserve respect and support from us
Politics is a game of stomach.wealth accumulation no love for the marginalised.They will soon be fighting for positions and wealth accumulation.
You nailed it...unfortunately very few people applies their mind properly to understand. Politics is just a game.
"A volatile stock market" You cannot trust politicians.
@@eliudnkuna3930a Dirty Game at That. Floyd aligned with a party, who wants to save ANC. Makes we wonder if ANC didn’t send him to finish EFf anyway and now their bigger threat is MK, so he has been deployed!
@@legran25 True, it looks like a deployment to infiltrate the already crumbling MKP. The people that will be deployed in parliament won't make any impact to MKP members, they are not populist.
As an MKP member, this is a dream come true, we needed comrade Floyd in our beloved MKP, I am over the moon with these developments!
Mkhonto we corruption
@@user-hs2cj8yv6r " uMkhonto uyozenzela!"
Happy Happy,Msholozi is a master yooo...Viva MK Viva
Lol you guys don't even have a manifesto
@@NgolaNalanethose are some of the things Floyd will be working on... Policy Development, Political Leadership, currently MK is led by a Judge and a PR guy.... Now there are 16 vacant seats in the MK benches and others will be following Floyd.
To all eff members, its not a lost to us, he declared that he is gonna " shape and direct the politics of the MK party"
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
@@WesleySpeelman sounds like he's been loaned to MK for a while and will return back home
So Sad but Eff still has a very capable leadership....
You are right it is a gain but how I dont know
It feels like a betrayal but anyway those who remain we continue to fight for Economic Freedom in our lifetime. Ours is a generational mission
There is no crisis. This is meant for political alignment. If anyone thinks this is a crisis they are naive. This is a response to the alignment between ANC and DA and Floyed will bring much needed political education within MKP. This is a product of strategic alignment and reasoning between JZ and Julius Malema. The political heavyweights of our time. If you think this was not planned you are naive. In very simple terms, this is a deployment. Great move by the way. Maybe the boldest political move in 30 years. There is only one person Malema trusts and that's Floyd, this assignment could not have been given to anyone else.
I seem go agree with you.
It's true I see the hand of former president here JZ and Malema don't worry South Africans this is politics
How long will you feed yourself lies until you realize what's everyone seeing. If EFF and MKP are realigning then why would Floyd resign and abandon his membership. The MKP can sign a memorandum of understanding with the EFF stating their agreement and intentions. Don't suffer from conspiracy theories and visions of grandeur where Malema and Zuma are mastermind beyond reality. Floyd need space to grow and pursue his ideas. His tired of being the sidekick of Malema and having to agree with Malema on every matter that he has a different opinion on. Malema threatened Floyd on national television on post election press conference.
Are you sure of what you are saying. I wish if that was true!!!
It's deeper than we think
MK needs superior logic from cde Floyd Shivambu, Zuma is a genius😮
Genius in corruption 😂😂😂
I am lost for the first time since 2012 when ANC expelled Malema.
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Never ever I questioned my home, EFF, in the past 11 years. I am so angry and sad .
Don’t be ,it was t8me for EFF to shed!
Eff will be a 5% party in 2026. Good riddance to the flip floppers
This changes the political landscape big time. ANC and DA is going to suffer. For the first time I wake up with 2 choices when I vote. I am sure that a lot of people will be like me. MK will attract other constituencies they never attracted before.
Interesting view
Good wishes to the ex DP of EFF, but for him joining MKP, is a bit of a question mark? MKP doesn't have a solid foundation,...but who knows, things could turnaround by the new Captains,...
@@lungsta8436 Floyd is going to help MKP to build proper structures and a political direction that will resonate with many! Floyd is one of the best political organisers in the land.
@@njabulongema3748 I hear you Sir, and I've also picked that up in his resignation speech. Will these new formations change the whole political spectrum in Mzants & the rest of the Continent? At the moment there's a lot going on in the Political Arena in SA.
Well done in getting your livestream up and running and well presented, Sipho. Your assessments were, I think, SPOT ON !!! YOUR OBJECTIVE, UNBIASED analysis is one of your STRONG points. Keep it like that.
So Floyd and Andile Mgcxitama will now be in the same bench in parliament.. Interesting
I’d like to hear Andiles views.
Expect some fantastic racist comments. Blacks love their racist leaders.
Hmmm, don't even go there yooooo. I am closing my eyes right now
Congratulations my brother for the milestone of being able to kick start your 1st ever live even if I missed it but I'm happy I'm here now,please keep on being there for us young man we learn a lot from you
Once upon a time, Malema was a ANC boy, a Zuma boy, but he left and broke hearts, now he is tasting his own medicine.
It is my opinion that all of this turmoil across both opposition parties works in the GNU's favour. Which is fine by me.
The EFF will become stronger we are with you CIC malema long life EFF ❤❤❤
Long life with heartaching 😂
@@MivoThando and you think you are having the last laugh 🤷🏾♂️🙌🏿
I say it's a loan deal. Mk needs someone to create structure & make it a national wide party.
My point exactly Malema and Floyd are Zuma's people
@@khomotsophokanoka8533 floyd is gonna write the constitution for mk
What? MK is already a bigger party than EFF.
Are fighters going to agree?
@@francoisdewit8073 but still no constitution what i heard. floyd is gonna write it
Why can’t EFF and MK (and other pro African parties) unite into one party?
They'll all want to be president or hold high positions
Because the leaders are pro-power not pro-South Africa.
Put South Africa 1st❤..and The fight for united Africa..is too big for You Eff....pick South Africa and move fast ❤🎉and work the ground
What do you think the MK is doing
I am sad as a fighter but I voted for EEF not people 😭💔So I will remain a fighter.
5:05 I can imagine how Malema reacted. "Monna kanete"
Describing this as a "Bombshell" is somewhat melodramatic - millions of Gogos are still waiting....
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Millions😂
We haven’t forgotten that EFF said they would participate in coalition govt but without Ramaphosa. Then later Malema went crawling to Ramaphosa asking to join but Ramaphosa snubbed him and stuck to DA bcos he knew EFF were dead in the water.
But the DA said the same thing though.💁🏽♂️
I think Ramaphosa chose to work with the DA because he's a capitalist, with interests in keeping the status quo.
Great move by Floyd,i am an EFF supporter i know what Floyd did there he realized with the EFF he won't be the president soon but with the MK, he's definitely going to be the president soon so great political move by Floyd
Agreed I believe he sees a gap that he can take
@@daniellandrey4293a president how plz explain a bit
@@jabulisilendlovu-y7u msholozi won’t be around much longer he is very old now. Floyd sees his gap there
Paý back the money wow I still remember those days with their noise
If Floyd becomes MK party president, then it confirms my suspicions that EFF had a snake in their camp, hence the dismal performance during elections & that 🐍 is......Shiv
There is a lot behind Floyd's decision to quit EFF than what we heard from him and Julius at Winnie Madikizela house.
I will follow Floyd to MK.
Mk.and EFF are one....
I will remain with Julias
It's indeed a sad moment not only for South Africa but Africa and Namibia in particular, please, I hope Adv Dali SC is not next.
Please tell the people's advocate to stay home. He's part of a solid foundation of EFF.
His been Zumas lawyer since the hands of time. His living soon
I suspect VBS is the cause of resignation.
I'm so sad to hear this news. Floyd is a big part of EFF. He must go and explore and come back home.
I am an outsider but keen on SA politics since Mandela time. I believe the move by the deputy, EEF is tactical aimed at infiltrating Zuma’s party with the objective of gradually swallowing it by EEF. My take!
I don't think so... there's no enmity between the two parties....the aim is to strengthen their political position...the rightist parties have already consolidated...it's a good time for democracy...
The outward appearance by both Malema and Shivambo during the briefing with the media remains an appearance. There is no conflict between the two leaders. They know what they are doing.
I agree because there's no reason for the MK to join the EFF when they're already the third biggest party putting the EFF in fourth place.
Stay out African politics, focus on your own hailstorm wherever you are!
Wow!!!! Thanks for giving us these news Sizwe. I think the guy is looking after himself not the party, it’s his right
I don't think that EFF is approaching an end as a result of this announcement. The party has seen leaders leaving the organisation shortly after its formation, and it continued to grow stronger to what it is today. So if anything the party is likely to recover from the losses it suffered from the previous elections.
Great analysis Sizwe.. thank u bro🎉🎉🎉❤
I will say this yet again undermine MKP at your own peril 🤞🏾
Msholozi has done his job it all depends to the leadership to not let this train derail it seturnly is the last train and the last hope for a black child and all who believes in free fair and just country
I welcome Comander Shivambu what a great move you surprised all of us yet with joy and hi appreciation phambili nge MKP❤
Good speaking from Juju this is politic professionally not like ANC.
There's no bad blood between mkp and eff. Viva the progressive caucus viva
But that doesn't mean they shouldn't kill each other.
@@tameimpala37 Give it a few days
Let us formed one party Comrades .EFF and MK tigether that will great move
It can be like that but the problem for me,who will be a leader,the president,
It's coming to day just watch the space after Local elections
@@Ntsiki-o6uProblem is Ego's
Heck, I’ve only recently gone the left direction and I’m sad. :-( I feel so comrade Julius
You've only recently gone left? I'm interested in how you arrived where you are actually
@@spitzmatixmonyane I mean, do you have time?
@@maverickwitlouw6330 Yes, sir. Indulge me.
Somber moment indeed,they have been a bigger part of our lives,sparked a political interest to many people..
It is a painful decision. I think that things will not be easy for floyd because MP members are not trained ideologically.
He couldn't stomach the idea of insulting elders becoz they didn't have matric. He is a respectful man. Well done.
We live in interesting times. This is a significant moment in SA’s changing political landscape. So much to process and reflect on. “There are no permanent enemies or friends in politics, just permanent interests.” 🛣️
They managed their breakup very well. God's grace and strength to Juju. Must be heart wrenching to experience this from a very close friend.
There is no place for dictatorship in SA. Malema has all that attributes
Maybe dictatorship will uplift black people because capitalism is exploiting them
In your head not in reality
It depends what kind of dictatorship you talking about. Cos i do feel like as black people we need a carring dictator government
@@Bommogo
Really?
Have you done your research on historic dictators?
Remember Idi Amin?
You are delusional thinking a dictatorship would work in South Africa
The election results speak for themselves. The electorate were unhappy and voted accordingly and will continue to do so.
The EFF and MKP had a perfect opportunity to join the ANC but they were arrogant in their requirements which resulted in them being sidelined and the ANC chose their GNU partners from other non-black parties.
Ex-ANC ministers are already being shown up as corrupt, and the new ministers are shaking the trees with investigations into non-performance which SAns are in favour of.
@@BommogoVBS
Thanks!
Thank you!
This is staged, Progressive force project at play by the Zuma family. However there will be casualties in the process.
ANC will be a casualty
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Malema is a better position now to rebuild the EFF without all the traitors! Let them go! Abahambe, who cares!
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MK also lacks experienced politicians, in saying that MK should have empowered their inexperienced politicians instead of fracturing the African votes further.
Floyd left so he can protect the EFF. Hawks are coming for him and he doesn't want to attach the VBS money to EFF formation. Smart move
Ahh! You’re onto something there
You are onto something hey
First stage of grieve is denial.
🤔🤔
That does not make sense, he'll always be the face of the EFF no matter where he is.
There’s more to this than what meets the eye
I foresee a merger between Eff and Mkp, Floyd is crossing to Mkp to make the transition smother
But Malema won't accept being the second in command ...that is his downfall
@@MivoThando will zuma and his children allow being the second??
I never saw something like this coming but i will continue as EFF member. Is the only party that make sense to me and its principles and the vision of this country. Viva EFF Viva
The political climate is changing very fast, SACP cannot extricate itself from the Alliance which has since expanded into what we know as GNU. The climate has room for the SACP to go independent and make new friends
What was discussed during the tea meeting is now slowly getting revealed , Politics is art
I have always been impressed by eff members' love of education. Shivambo will always be loved for his love of education.
Some educated people are dumb in other respects!
Tens years from now the MKP and DA will be the main opposition parties to each other and the ANC will be but a memory
This is a political strategy to consolidate the progressive forces in a structured manner. MK needs a proper process of building and organising a structure. Its a big move and could be a game changer if executed well
Which I doubt so much. Only time will tell but I don't think South African political landscape is that radical.
This is no strategy. Why do people insist on day dreaming. Floyd left the EFF for MK. That's it, period.
Sad moment indeed if the issues were there they could have been ironed out
The number of EFF members going to MK should be 18...make that 16 now...considering Floyd and Manyi. The arrival of MK has necessitated a change in strategy.
It does not matter, EFF will remain big. There will be GNU between EFF and MK in the near future.
I don't think this is the end of EFF already a group of EFF members back in 2019 wanted Adv Dali Mpofu to be a Deputy President I think there're still credible leaders in the EFF unless they also leave then. I also think he made a mistake MK might have gained so much votes but i dont believe in its future
MKP has a whole province behind it's back, it will only grow from here
I am behind Carl Niehaus much better than Mpofu
It's certainly not an end to the EFF.
He did not make a mistake with Mkp. He will build MKP brick by brick and bring it to where it needs to be. Floyd is good in management, mobilizing and building foundation of the o
Carl niehaus ..Jimmy Manyi are not to be counted they don't form any strong part in the existence of eff ...hence they are rolling stones and power mongers
@@flavaofthemonth8786yes we need that experience of Floyd yet not destroy Eff the mutual existence of the two movements is crucial for reconstruction of our revolution broken by the anc
Malema is today destroying the Eff daylight
3 has been destroying ot from long ago 😮
No man...this is not about drama, ...but realignment politics... an end to Tshirt politics...
@@senzomemela1311 possible. What is next a merger?
Nonsense , Leaving EFF for MK is a downgrade for me
No one is destroying EFF those who hate EFF must leave EFF alone.
The Progressive Caucus is cooking and the stove is on 9!!!
What's interesting for me is to consider the Risks and threats to this move🤔
Stay tuned, it's gonna be blockbuster!🔥🔥🔥
Love your allusions to both Shakespearean revenge tragedy, and the strategy of chess - as ways of understanding the dynamics of the political landscape of South Africa. Your frequent use of the word “organic “ is also particularly useful in this respect.
The future is Green and Black Unity is power 🟢⚫✊🏾
And Red ♥️, 2029 all voting for one progressive party..
And red ❤😂...one progressive caucus party...
For EFF members. There are four stages of grieve:
1) Stage 1: Denial (Its a strategic move by Malema & Zuma to consolidate power (Current)
2) Stage 2: Anger of Floyd future success in MKP (Coming soon)
3) Stage 3: Bargaining ( attempts by EFF to petition Floyd to rejoin EFF from MKP)
4) Stage 4: Acceptance Floyd is gone and not coming back (Move on)
I'm deeply sad honestly speaking
Don't worry rather be happy .THEY PLANNED THIS, WE WIĹL CELEBRATE EVENTUALLY 🎉🎉🎉..Listen to what MALEMA said: I will welcome you back if you so wish 😅😅 regardless of the rules 😂🎉.
My school of thought with this is about Floyd getting more room in MK to establish himself and to consolidate progressive forces. There will be a dent in EFF and Zuma is eyeing those seasoned young politicians to spearhead revolution besides Ramaphosa.
There's no rivalry here...but consolidation...towards one progressive party under one party...
We don't appreciate Zuma enough unfortunately we will realize it when its too late
ZUma is for the indians
Pole Sana malema such is life in politics stay positive
Clear as day..Black (EFF/MK) vs White (ANC/DA)
Once again, the black/white RACICISM is rearing its UGLY HEAD 😢
Your analysis make things easier for us to understand the dynamics of South African politics,please next time invite floyd and Malema for interview
watching after life chat... The news came as shock to me, but Floyd joining MKP isn't so much a loss...The two parties are not so apart in terms of policies.
Thank you SMWX... One channel I always recommend to my pupils to follow. Too informative...Too educational😄
Thank you!
The year just keeps getting better and better.
Thank you for respecting your audience and reporting on this ASAP 🙏🏽
The GNU is working for South Africa. The MK and EFF are playing power politics. There are always push and pull factors when people leave.
Eish! South Africa needs strong eff and strong mkp. Leaders must be careful how they conduct themselves.
I just like the way you analyze issues and you have insight. So many questions but no clear answers.