i mean he really is bad on most maps, especially mansion the problem is that compared to john doe & coolkid, they need to read the players well in order to do well, and you feel very satisfied when hitting abilities with 1x1x1x1, there aren't too many situations where you're getting a read, and you're either absolutely guessing where the player is going, or hoping they aren't paying attention to your projectile. Both projectiles are incredibly easy to see coming if you're decently far away, and landing entanglement doesn't provide much reward if the player knows how to get out of the stun quickly. I'm not saying 1x1x1x1 is unviable or whatever, but he's definitely feels the weakest out of the 4. You're absolutely able to demolish with this killer, but you're able to do that with the other killers just as well, if not better.
In the ranged department 1x is def the best to do it (which scales basically 1:1 to how good you are at prediction and hitting projectiles) but of course each killer has their weaknesses and certain maps they're terrible at I wouldn't say 1x1 is the weakest out of the 4 but he's the most skill dependent of the four, and being bad at 1x will be way worse than being bad at Jason due to how unforgiving 1x is with his kit compared to the other killers. His ranged capabilities is practically infinite as long as you're good at it which isn't quite the same for the other killers who don't have as much reward for hitting really far shots
The thing with him is that it takes a while to kill people, but when you do, it happens so fast that you almost always have enough time to murder everyone. Speaking as a 1x1x1x1 main.
its good to have ranged moves, sure, but it becomes a problem when thats your ONLY gimmick. the reason why i think 1x1x1x1 can struggle so much compared to the other killers is that he relies heavily on his abilities more than the other killers really need to. he's slow, and his melee attack sometimes feels like it has a shorter range than john doe or coolkid and especially jason. 1x1x1x1 relies so much on prediction and sometimes you just get unlucky and miss all your ranged attacks, not to mention that any sort of elevation between 1x1x1x1 and the survivor basically nullifies his ranged abilities. i don't think there's any "worst" killer, it just comes down to play style, but jeez 1x1x1x1 can be really difficult to play sometimes
i think he's somewhat fine since none of the moves like totally doom a chase advantage for example if you are up close as c00lkid and miss your walkspeed overdrive, if the survivor just runs the opposite direction, you've practically already lost the chase i will say though that jason is extremely plain. it's like if two time was a killer since you have no ranged moves and have to put full focus into getting the survivors to no stamina. practically just a pick your poison of losing stamina advantage, with the order of worst for stamina being the later moves. i mean literally the rage mode (which i know is supposedly better in the unreleased balancing changes) is a waste of time unless you are fighting a sentinel (i love hitting 45 damage decaps on a greedy guest or shedletsky) none of that is to say it's impossible to win with, though. i mean even when using him my losses end up being from the flawed last stand mechanic. still hate that pretty much all of my killer losses are from my well earned 3 minutes disappearing. there's a reason why DBD challenges consider the last survivor escaping from hatch as still a win for killer
@@notsam2270 Understood, but I never said he was a horrible killer. Just the worst in comparison to the others (Aim/use C00lkids overdrive well and he performs MUCH better than Jason).
Casually forgetting Jason just exists I guess. I mean, I know he's the starter killer or whatever, but he barely has anyway of actually catching up to his victims or at the very least hit them from a distance. Completely helpless against a server of people who actually know what they're doing.
Two words: stamina management. I've killed many competent players as Jason by baiting stuns and 1337's block and managing my stamina well. Jason is by no means bad, and should NOT be considered the worst. Due to his kit only requiring him to catch up, which he is able to do, I've found he's the most reliable killer by far if you hate certain maps as other killers, as a competent Jason has the same chance of victory on all of them.
@@mridotprobably Then either I've never played against a competent Shedletsky, or you're not playing Jason correctly, because I've never had an issue with catching up to a Shedletsky in chase as long as I bait Slash...
Jason is arguably on paper the worst killer, especially because of his R being pretty much useless as of right now. I know he isn't bad though, I'm working on getting him to level 100
I was like. "Hey what do they mean b-" "Wait a moment, i think i saw that title some where else" "Oh yeah its the guy that did 360 no scope whif the spikes"
Ngl, the biggest problem with him, is that the slash hitbox is just trash, cuz instead if it being in front of you, its behind, similar to pillar chase 2 ones.
All killers are strong and have their own playstyles (1x1 ranged, jason typical chaser, coolk anti-runaround (though his bots do a piss poor job at it) and john trapper), so if you suck at them, its your fault on why they are bad btw i got to mention your reading abilities are off the charts
He entirely depends on wether you hit your abilities and the survivors. Yes he can be a powerhouse but against stunners he struggles so much. There are game where i could just not do anything aside from hitting the occasional mass infection because i would just always get stunlocked by 2 shedlendskies, 3 guests and a chance. He is viable just very hard to make use out of his abilities. Because lets be real even if he has the best spotting tool in the whole game unstable eye is not a great tool for chases. That speed 1 really doesnt help at all when you cant see shit since they dont stay highlighted
@@latioslad1 in some maps you can loose them very easily. Maps with corners and a lot of walls or darker maps if they have unpredictable movement unless they have their brightest skins out you are guaranteed to loose them. Also after the patch he is very good now, since there’s no endlag on entanglement if you successfully use it on someone
Arguably? No killer is worse than others It's just some perform worse on specific terms (aka voss + john doe [i hate planet voss] and mansion/brandon + 1x) its just how hard one or the other to get used to till you learn how to be better...
STOP POSTING ABOUT MASS INFECTION! MAP 1 IS ALL MASS INFECTION, MAP 2, ALL MASS INFECTION I WAS ON MAP 3, AND ALL I SAW, WAS MASS INFECTION ON MAP 4 ITS FUCKING *click-click-click-click* ON MAP 1 ITS *click-click-click-click* ok i dont actually have the energy to write the rest of this out
Elliot needs just 1 half decent player on their team (preferably guest or shedletsky) to be good. If you two stick together, they can defend you and annoy the monster while they chase after you or you heal them while the monster chases them
i mean he really is bad on most maps, especially mansion
the problem is that compared to john doe & coolkid, they need to read the players well in order to do well, and you feel very satisfied when hitting abilities
with 1x1x1x1, there aren't too many situations where you're getting a read, and you're either absolutely guessing where the player is going, or hoping they aren't paying attention to your projectile. Both projectiles are incredibly easy to see coming if you're decently far away, and landing entanglement doesn't provide much reward if the player knows how to get out of the stun quickly. I'm not saying 1x1x1x1 is unviable or whatever, but he's definitely feels the weakest out of the 4. You're absolutely able to demolish with this killer, but you're able to do that with the other killers just as well, if not better.
In the ranged department 1x is def the best to do it (which scales basically 1:1 to how good you are at prediction and hitting projectiles) but of course each killer has their weaknesses and certain maps they're terrible at
I wouldn't say 1x1 is the weakest out of the 4 but he's the most skill dependent of the four, and being bad at 1x will be way worse than being bad at Jason due to how unforgiving 1x is with his kit compared to the other killers.
His ranged capabilities is practically infinite as long as you're good at it which isn't quite the same for the other killers who don't have as much reward for hitting really far shots
are we getting a new forsaken video
please i need to get fed cause in the basement we can only eat the dust
Hello tier list guy
The thing with him is that it takes a while to kill people, but when you do, it happens so fast that you almost always have enough time to murder everyone.
Speaking as a 1x1x1x1 main.
its good to have ranged moves, sure, but it becomes a problem when thats your ONLY gimmick. the reason why i think 1x1x1x1 can struggle so much compared to the other killers is that he relies heavily on his abilities more than the other killers really need to. he's slow, and his melee attack sometimes feels like it has a shorter range than john doe or coolkid and especially jason.
1x1x1x1 relies so much on prediction and sometimes you just get unlucky and miss all your ranged attacks, not to mention that any sort of elevation between 1x1x1x1 and the survivor basically nullifies his ranged abilities. i don't think there's any "worst" killer, it just comes down to play style, but jeez 1x1x1x1 can be really difficult to play sometimes
Which killer do you want to main?
Kaiser: “yes”
1x1 when slightly sloped surface:
I'd say "Now we need Jason is the Worst Killer in Forsaken" but he probably is 😭
he is
They broke his knees after the nerf
i think he's somewhat fine since none of the moves like totally doom a chase advantage
for example if you are up close as c00lkid and miss your walkspeed overdrive, if the survivor just runs the opposite direction, you've practically already lost the chase
i will say though that jason is extremely plain. it's like if two time was a killer since you have no ranged moves and have to put full focus into getting the survivors to no stamina. practically just a pick your poison of losing stamina advantage, with the order of worst for stamina being the later moves. i mean literally the rage mode (which i know is supposedly better in the unreleased balancing changes) is a waste of time unless you are fighting a sentinel (i love hitting 45 damage decaps on a greedy guest or shedletsky)
none of that is to say it's impossible to win with, though. i mean even when using him my losses end up being from the flawed last stand mechanic. still hate that pretty much all of my killer losses are from my well earned 3 minutes disappearing. there's a reason why DBD challenges consider the last survivor escaping from hatch as still a win for killer
@@notsam2270 Understood, but I never said he was a horrible killer. Just the worst in comparison to the others (Aim/use C00lkids overdrive well and he performs MUCH better than Jason).
Guys, remenber that your skill issue doenst define which killer is better or worst
Casually forgetting Jason just exists I guess.
I mean, I know he's the starter killer or whatever, but he barely has anyway of actually catching up to his victims or at the very least hit them from a distance. Completely helpless against a server of people who actually know what they're doing.
Two words: stamina management. I've killed many competent players as Jason by baiting stuns and 1337's block and managing my stamina well. Jason is by no means bad, and should NOT be considered the worst. Due to his kit only requiring him to catch up, which he is able to do, I've found he's the most reliable killer by far if you hate certain maps as other killers, as a competent Jason has the same chance of victory on all of them.
@@w_ringall that counts until you are fighting a shedletsky who can also manage stamina
@@mridotprobably Then either I've never played against a competent Shedletsky, or you're not playing Jason correctly, because I've never had an issue with catching up to a Shedletsky in chase as long as I bait Slash...
@@w_ringim almost level 50 with jason, he is for sure the worst killer
Hey!! I’m a changed man!!! 😤
Sniping people from across the map just hits different, especially when you outpredict their predicting.
I see your blowing up in popularity, good job kaiser, cannot wait you see your successful future.
i refuse to believe people actually believe 1x1 is the worst killer
Jason is arguably on paper the worst killer, especially because of his R being pretty much useless as of right now. I know he isn't bad though, I'm working on getting him to level 100
People saying 1x1 is bad when jason is right there 💔💔💔
Jason isnt even that bad
I was like.
"Hey what do they mean b-"
"Wait a moment, i think i saw that title some where else"
"Oh yeah its the guy that did 360 no scope whif the spikes"
I can see the trend now.
The RUclips grind commences.
Sometimes i just look in the playerlist and see if im there
Ngl, the biggest problem with him, is that the slash hitbox is just trash, cuz instead if it being in front of you, its behind, similar to pillar chase 2 ones.
I want to be 1x1x1x1 main but I am quite bad at predicting hits. Any tip? plsss :
Mom I’m on the Jumbotron
1x vs a survivor slightly above or below
As an lvl 25 - 26 1x1x1x1 i cannot confirm he's not the worst.
stop playing wit em kaiser❗
He has a move that just a free kill WHAT?
Can you do a compilation with winning with Jason or like tips and tricks with winning every rounds with him?
I'm struggling to win with him...
All killers are strong and have their own playstyles (1x1 ranged, jason typical chaser, coolk anti-runaround (though his bots do a piss poor job at it) and john trapper), so if you suck at them, its your fault on why they are bad
btw i got to mention your reading abilities are off the charts
need that hitsound 🙏🙏
All the killers are underwhelming they need a buff or something
see this is why i main him.
Wait till
"Jason is the worst killer"
And
"c00lkid is the worst killer"
1x1 almost made me quit the grind
as a level 52 1x1 I can say he is not that bad
So who would you say is the worst killer rn
Ironically 1x1x1x1 or jason with the nerf to his stamina skill.
But the thing is, the four killers are viable, some are easier to pick up and use well, while others require some time to learn well.
It'd have to be Jason, especially if you're going against any Last Guests.
@TheTrueJ836 I'd agree it's Jason but he hard counters guest, just bait his block and they lose like half their health
god damn ur crazy at this game, are you gonna make any comps with c00lkidd and jason?
yea
He entirely depends on wether you hit your abilities and the survivors. Yes he can be a powerhouse but against stunners he struggles so much. There are game where i could just not do anything aside from hitting the occasional mass infection because i would just always get stunlocked by 2 shedlendskies, 3 guests and a chance. He is viable just very hard to make use out of his abilities. Because lets be real even if he has the best spotting tool in the whole game unstable eye is not a great tool for chases. That speed 1 really doesnt help at all when you cant see shit since they dont stay highlighted
To be honest I've never had problems chasing people during the blur, just gotta watch their movement.
@@latioslad1 in some maps you can loose them very easily. Maps with corners and a lot of walls or darker maps if they have unpredictable movement unless they have their brightest skins out you are guaranteed to loose them. Also after the patch he is very good now, since there’s no endlag on entanglement if you successfully use it on someone
yay, I didn't want to main the best charecter
So called the worst killer when i practice 100 hour worth of aim training and little bit of prediction
Do you have Discord Server for Forsaken?
Chat I done been there
Goateddd
I’ve won every round with 1x1 people hate him but I think he’s good
How does one get so ass at the game that they think 1x1 is bad
Arguably? No killer is worse than others
It's just some perform worse on specific terms (aka voss + john doe [i hate planet voss] and mansion/brandon + 1x)
its just how hard one or the other to get used to till you learn how to be better...
Let's see you do "Jason" instead
I hate two time player's
so basically everyone glaze over c00lkidd at this point they think every killer sucks? i dont think c00lkidd good tbh
Im going to do something bad to you
yall picked the 3 best killers as the worst ones when you literally have jason
""""worst"""" -----)> 🏒 🪓
STOP POSTING ABOUT MASS INFECTION!
MAP 1 IS ALL MASS INFECTION, MAP 2, ALL MASS INFECTION
I WAS ON MAP 3, AND ALL I SAW, WAS MASS INFECTION
ON MAP 4 ITS FUCKING *click-click-click-click*
ON MAP 1 ITS *click-click-click-click*
ok i dont actually have the energy to write the rest of this out
Every character is terrible if you dont know how to use them (except elliot cuz by default he sucks already)
Elliot needs just 1 half decent player on their team (preferably guest or shedletsky) to be good. If you two stick together, they can defend you and annoy the monster while they chase after you or you heal them while the monster chases them
1x1x1x1 more like
Shit or something idfk
Real
He bad cuz hes attack hitbox is not broken unlike other killers, and he bad on most of maps so yeah
AGAIN!!!!!!!!
1x4 is the most annoying one ngl
jason is prob the worst
Yeah yeah he sucks (im level 42 with him)
Stupid noob unban me and my friend