2:24 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, High Gain 2:48 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, Medium Gain 3:14 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, Low Gain 4:08 - Mosfet Gain Stages, High Gain 5:55 - Mosfet Gain Stages, Medium Gain 6:16 - Mosfet Gain Stages, Low Gain 7:19 - JFET Stages, High Gain 7:52 - JFET Stages, Medium Gain 8:22 - JFET Stages, Low Gain 9:58 - Full Frequency Booster into JFET 10:52 - Full Frequency Booster into Mosfet 11:52 - Full Frequency Booster into Non Inverting Op Amp I did this for me, but, you're welcome...
As an electrical engineer taking classes on all this stuff it’s so useful seeing some applications. You’ve really helped me out in building my own pedals, cheers!
@@obsoletecd-rom good question! First of all how much do you know about electricity and circuit design? If nothing I would try to gain a cursory understanding of that first. Google ohms law and you should find a ton of resources. After that I’d look up op amps and treat them like a black box. Don’t worry about why they work just how. Research circuit transfer functions. What that means is a certain voltage(or current) in will have a corresponding voltage out. We refer to this as gain. Since you’re building guitar pedals it’s important to understand the frequency side of things. (Note this can get complex so if you don’t want to learn it I understand). You can google capacitors and frequency response. Basically frequency responses are derived from transfer functions (Gain equations). You can think of these the same way except certain frequencies are boosted while others are cut (usually). For this google filters- low pass, band pass, and high pass. If you don’t want to learn this just google filters and figure out how to construct them. Now that you’re here you’ll probably want to research FETS and diodes. With these circuit elements you can build a hell of a lot of pedals. Once you’ve done all that you’ll have a pretty good idea of what to learn next. It looks like a lot because it is. I’ve spent years learning this stuff, don’t get frustrated if it takes a while. Just learn step by step and you’ll enrich your understanding greatly.
@@chriscole9098 thank you for such a thorough response. Thanks for the warning too, I know it’s a lot of info but I’m looking at this long term and as a hobbyist. I appreciate it very much!
@@obsoletecd-rom If you're interested in DIY audio, consider joining the Audio Builders group on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/AudioBuildersWorkshop/. This group is affiliated with the Audio Engineering Society (AES); they have meet-ups at AES meetings. People in that group build everything from pedals to DSP units. Another similar discussion group, specifically targeting pedals, is on Reddit: r/DIYPedals. Find the group's web site; the sidebar has a collection of links to get you started. There are also several good web forums. One of my favorites is the DIYAudio-dot-com web site. Have fun! -Tom
any ideas where to get an schematic somewaht similar to the MOSFET gain stages that mr Wampler uses in his breadboard in this video. it sounds just awesome
There needs to be a video like this for Fuzz. A lot of people don’t like Fuzz even though they love the tones of other people that use it. I used to be that way until I stopped using Fuzz into a totally clean amp. Certain fuzzes are still an acquired taste but I love the ones I own now.
Check out That Pedal Show (UK YT channel) they've got several on the different types of fuzz and overdrive including an hour plus show with Josh from JHS on the history germanium to silicon transistors, IC-op amps etc etc. Their website has a searchable database for individual pedals and concepts. Covid crap ever ends and international travel starts back I know the TPS lads have been dying to do a long form talk with Brian like they did a few years back with Analog man.
the fact that he plays straight out of the breadboard goes a long way to bring down all myths and "magic" with pedals... everything is out there to see
@@riniones he didn't exactly disprove that, just showed that "interference or NOISE" is not the reason your playing sloppy and behind the rest of the band lol. A small bit of dirty power isn't an issue if you keep playing. Edit: I got what you meant, and yeah he's consistently shown us what does what in a language anyone can understand. This absolute unit of a legend has inspired more people than the past 15 years of "grammy award winning artists" combined could ever do.
@@officialdirtmcgurt that's what I mean, you see the guy playing in this and other videos and you see the components right there... I like that kind of message
@@riniones he's shown prototype pedals that literally had a usps flat rate cardboard for insulation of the bottom of the veroboard. He showed that and laughed at how well it worked. He's a legit modern day mike matthews
What we/Brian need is a product that is the breadboard with all the differnt possibilities laid out and tweakable, with a big red BUILD IT AND TAKE MY MONEY button for when we've got exactly the tone we want.
So interesting! My favorite was the op amp. What I want now is a big list of OD pedals listed under each of the three circuits - would make shopping so much easier.
@@chrismang7440 I bought it for that reason alone lol. Huge fan of the Narnia series, primarily the first one. Hurry, these original art Tumnus are getting pricey.
it's a 335 dot with Epiphone's Alnico Classic PRO Humbuckers. I pulled mine out and I measured out like Gibsons classic 57 I have put Lollar low wind , mojotone '59 CLONE HUMBUCKER , and Seymour Duncan APH-1n Alnico II Pro Humbucker. and I'm putting the epihone factory pick ups back in I can't find anything else that sounds good in that particular guitar
I understand what you're saying. I have both and the one without the binding is a studio. The dot meaning it has dots in the frets vs gibsons bars. my studio dot came with no dots so I put some in. my first Gibson confused me. as I was used to playing with dots in my guitar so I drill and insalled dots into the bars of my first traditional pro
Thanks Brian! Can't thank you (uncle doug, the Anderton's and TPS lads) enough for the information and giving a beat up old war horse a new interest/hobby. 4 years ago a random Anderton's video (guitar paradiso with Danish Pete and Mick Taylor) on my YT feed got me to pull out my acoustic guitar after a 30+ year hiatus and has turned into building amp, pedal kits and a few T & S style parts castors without electrocuting myself or burning down the house.
Love it! Finally starting to understand what I like, what I need and what I hear on recordings! Please do more (I. E. Blues breaker, hard clipping, silicone vs led...)
You're right! Some of them are completely different. So different, in fact, that one is a sound and the other is a shoe size. I LOVE it when people use the term "completely different" when they really mean "almost identical". Very informative.
As an electronics technician, I love this format, talking about the different circuits and showing how they sound. Also, the length is on point, not too long that it becomes tiring, just the right amount of information. Thank you, Brian! As another commenter requested, I would really like to see the same kind of explanation about Fuzzes; I love them (especially for low tunings, stoner rock, that kind of stuff), but always hear about it being difficult to "cut through the mix".
any ideas where to get an schematic somewaht similar to the MOSFET gain stages that mr Wampler uses in his breadboard in this video. it sounds just awesome
First, I cannot find words to express how much I appreciate you making the effort to make this video. It probably had the reverse effect you intended when you made it. I am still "NOT" a fan of overdrive pedals. I'm crazy about your Reverb, Delay, and Compressor pedals. I still think your Paisley Deluxe Overdrive pedal as a possibility in the future, but, thank you for confirming not putting it at the top of my list. (Yes I did see the video about how the Paisley Deluxe Overdrive came about, which is what grabbed my attention to Wampler Pedals in the first place.) Again, I do want to thank you more than you can possibly imagine for this video. It keeps me from throwing hard-earned $$$$ away on some sound I am really not only not interested in, but have no desire for. Great Job on this video!!!! Please do not take this as a negative. I view this video as a total positive for me. It just confirms this 70+ year old is not stupid with "I Like What I Like" and what I do "Not" like is overdrive. You've shown the full spectrum...and it is "not" for me!!! Thank you again for giving me the information I need to make an intelligent decision!!! (Which does not mean I may not eventually the Paisley Deluxe Overdrive pedal. It just won't be at the top of my list. Don't think this negative overdrive as a negative...I already have 3 of your Reverb / Delay pedals!!! I am CRAZY about them!!! I guess I'm just too "Old School" for "overdrive.") Great Video!!!!
Absolutely minimal differences that you'd probably never hear in a mix anyway. Great video, it will save me tons of money, too bad I didn't see it 20 years ago.
I struggled with them so much because I am mainly a home player, which is quite common really, but I eventually found if I bought one and initially wasn’t crazy about it, it was just because of not having the volume knob up high enough. Once I moved the volume up just a little more, it brought them to life. I helped a couple buddies out with it, move that knob up one and a half more! I just finally bought a Tumnus classic, and I absolutely love what it can do. It’s just a great little pedal, thanks Bryan!
He is talking about clipping diodes in overdrive/distortion pedals and uses the boosters to get more input gain. The other way would be to use different boosters without clipping diodes to hit the rails of opamps, creating distortion that way..
TY Mr. Wampler! It needed almost 40 years to find my Gain/Overdrive pedal and style. I tried tons of pedals but none survived on my board. Till i found some with the "hint of clean signal". Right now i use a King of Tone and a Morning Glory. That's more than enough for my music genre and i'm totally happy.
Here is where I come for real knowledge of a particular circuit, etc. I use three of your pedals,( All I need). Save for my Fulltone OCD. ...You are the man Mr. Wampler.
mosfet and jfet both sound good and natural. Opamp always sounds like the clean signal is running in parallel with the clipped signal. Sounds like the pedal is running in an aux loop just adding a little over drive fake effect to the clean signal, and not effecting the whole signal. Tube Screamers always sound this way to me. Love these types of videos you do explaining what circuit sounds like what...... thanks. I love love love the Plexi Drive Deluxe........but sadly can't afford one. Maybe one day.
Love this vid. J-fet and mosfet are my favs in this comparison I’d LOVE to see another dist-circuit comparison but with other consistent EQs preceding the gain stages (like cutting the bass significantly before clipping etc) and the impact on it all 👍👍 Cheers
I lean towards op amp overdrives, mosfet sometimes. It would be great to see a video on inverting vs non-inverting op amps!! Thanks for the great & intuitive vid, sir!
I've finally got (3) Gain-stages that I'm in love with: Barber Gain Changer SR, Fulltone OCD (1.7) & Thorpy Fallout Cloud. I can mix, match, stack, and get any sound that I can possibly need. It's been a long-Journey: "Searching for my Ultimate Tone"
Hey, I have an old Epi 335 dot like that. I retired it with good quality pots and TV Jones pups. Also, replaced bridge, stop bar and tuners with better quality stuff. Love it!!!
@the 92 project. Yes, I agree this is the most enjoyable way to play especially for blues and classic rock. But for the working musician that covers a wide range of covers it’s not practical for most situations. For one thing this type of playing works best with a cranked amp and you can’t always get to that to that sweet spot at a gig without overdrives. And if you’re covering anything from “brown eyed girl” to Metallica pedals give you the flexibility to make it work. If I was playing my own stuff in arenas I’d probably plug straight in. But even some of the greatest tone hounds usually have a OD or two on their boards. There’s really no best way to do it. It’s about making it work for whatever venue you play in cuz they’re all different
@magnus Berger. I’ve been using attenuators for years and still do. But 9 times out of 10 if I’m playing very different types of music in a set I’ll still have a pedal or two to color my tone for flexibility. I’m not disagreeing that plugging straight into a amp and using your guitar controls to control everything isn’t great. In fact it’s my favorite way to play. I’m just saying pedals have their place and sometimes they are essential. And most of the all time greats use them whether in the studio or on stage
@@mygabrielle7477 Ageee! Horses for courses. My favorite setup is a tube amp at a nice breakup combined with a couple different OD’s at moderate settings for flavor.
Nice to see you again Brian :) Great video. The lesson here seems to be "don't turn the gain all the way up". Except when it's single coils into non-inverting op amp.
Remember folks, these are all altering/helping the Brovado, which like any quality tube amp is the bedrock of all these tone. Thanks Brian. This is an excellent comparison of these gain stages.
Thank you for this brilliant description Brian, it's nice to know how overdrives are configured, and the difference in the output signal. I like the idea of talking through the circuitry of effects pedals giving an insight into the function of the stages. The op-amp was the best in my opinion.
Main thing for all three OD types is that I liked all of them better in the mid settings - that way there's nice crunch, but still a lot of chime. I like hearing those chewy legato phrases along with the ringing chord thing going on. Thanks for sharing Dr. Wampler - my wife can attest that I have far too many of your pedals strewn about my music room :)
Would love to see these types of videos often! Love learning the terminology, as well as the interplay between pickups (type, distance...), volume control on guitar, and the settings of each part of a pedal. Plus, I am a home electronics geek. So it is great that you made them on a breadboard! MOSFET, for me!
It did really helps me to choose particular overdrive ! Thanks brian, now i can move on from the Pinnacle and choose what i need to push my amp with another ODs
This is killer content dude! When I was a wee young lad I got a TS for Christmas and HATED it. I thought it was broken because I could still hear the clean signal (not a very complimentary sound into a sterile clean Crate amp). It was only after discovering tube amps and running them a bit hot did I awaken to the majesty of these types of drives.
I have always wondered why overdrives never really worked as a boost for me until someone said put it in the loop. WOW,! There it is. Why is this not talked about more? The amount of cool pedals I’ve had and sold because of this is insane lol
I like the op-amp chips with mosfet combo especially with a Marshall JCM800 and hitting it with a sustainer plus Eq and booster I use a simple Maxon OD-808 another Eq in the fx loop and boss delay and a few small other little gadgets I get all I want from cleans to tearing the paint off the walls J-fets have there place all of this is subjective the Pot your using resistor values and just as you said pickups , amp your using EL34 , 6L6 , 34 etc all our going to sound differently. I like what your dong here first time I’ve seen your vids as I’m always playing and nodding my own stuff instead of web searching I’ve learned a few things thumbs up to your showing taking the time to do so
That was great. I like these kind of videos. Keep them coming. They're edumacating magicry. Also...can't wait for my Belle overdrive to show up this week. That should answer my question on which circuit I liked the best. Cheers!
I took your overdrive circuit on the internet I modified it and turned it into a stereo Distortion unit with a double dual pole filter and basically put a 2.7 K resistor in series with the clipping diodes this blows away a boss od1x it only four milliamps of current drain it doesn't need a switch on it especially turn the volume of the guitar down a little bit with Dimebag pickups this produces the cleanest Distortion I've ever heard in my life something a little better than what's in a Peavey chorus stereo from 1987 amp
I still love my Tube Screamer that was modded to the spec's from your pedal Mod booklet ... it was fun doing some of those projects ... Thanks Brian for continuing the "Quest" for Tone ...
The Hudson Broadcast was the first drive I was happy with.Before that, I used Germanium fuzz circuits for all clipping needs.The Benson Pre, and Bigsound/Small sound Mini are both contenders. IMO, the Boss BD2 is still superior to most of what is available.
I really like the loose, warn tone of the mosfet, but I also actually really like how the jfet sounds when boosted, like it's getting into gated fuzz territory
Brian. it would be interesting to input an A 440 sine curve into the various overdrive devices and view the manner at which the signal is clipped on an oscilloscope.
Whatever circuit the Belle is!!! That’s my all time favorite. It is an incredible pedal and thank you for building it! I’ve sold off quite a few other Pedals now and I won’t miss them!
Really Really great video. You’ve a great way of explaining pedal innards in layman’s terms. I learned soooo much from this video. Amazing to see you on the Guitarist Ireland forum from time to time. A real treat.
After looking at that wall “I need your guitar, your amp and those pedals in the back” I made a cheap fuzz/overdrive pedal using a couple of AC diodes 20 years ago that thing still sounds amazing 😉
The mixing in of some clean sound into the overdriven sounds is one of those things that once you know about it you can't not hear it anymore. I think that's why it works so well into a distorted amp, as it's distorting both clean and driven sounds at the same time, give a nice three dimensional sound.
My favorite has always been the DOD Overdrive Preamp 250. It works very well with my Peavey Classic 50 212 combo and Carvin MTS-3200 head. Looking at the schematic, it uses the LM741 op amp chip. I usually use the gain control around between 1/2 to 3/4 (depending on guitar and pickup output), and the level at 1/2. Gives the guitar a nice boost and snarl before it hits the amp.
This was a fun watch, great video! I'm using FET based overdrives made to sound like classic amps. I boost them with a MOSFET booster. It's all stuff I built from DIY circuit boards. My old Peavey Classic 50/50 amp does not have a preamp to speak of, so it really takes advantage of the fet drives with real tone stacks in them. I have noticed that the mosfet circuits take a full range boost better than the jfet's but the jfets love a top end boost. My board has a Sunn Model T and a 70's Hiwatt preamp pedal at the moment, building a Bandmaster and Ampeg one soon.
I loved that sound of the MOSFET circuit. A little chunkier sounding. Really cool. Right now I'm using a rat type pedal as an overdrive. it's the Mountain pedals by Frost Giant. It's a rat with three selectable gain stages (I believe anyway) and a distortion/od switch. I'm really loving how it sounds as an od. Highly recommend.
The OpAmp was my favorite of the three, but all three have their place. For a basic circuit the OpAmp seemed more versatile with less need to tweak. I’d love to see the details on how you put together the breadboard. So what type does the Tumnus fall under??
I had no idea people hated overdrive pedals tbh. If you’ve ever looked in a pedal cabinet in a guitar shop you could be forgiven for thinking every guitarist has about 20 different drive pedals minimum lol. I just clicked on this video because I love learning things from you, and I wasn’t disappointed!
Distortion was that effect for me. Always preferred to stack ODs with a fuzz. As much as I've always enjoyed overdrive though, I've never enjoyed it as much as I have since I got my Belle a few weeks ago! I never wanna turn it off lol. Kudos on your magicry, Brian!
I love that you've chosen to use an Epiphone ES335 instead of a high end guitar or custom build. It gives people realistic comparisons with their likely used gear. Also they did a really good job making those 335s.
I just got the Inspired by Gibson ES-339 in Cherry Red and it's really impressive straight out of the box. Wanted a smaller body since my strike zone isn't as big as some people 6ft+ and it's perfect.
I have tried a ton of OD pedals to the point now that its almost as if they're the same thing over and over and over. What I love about the Timlus deluxe is that Brian gives options, switches to his pedals that make em stand out and most importantly, worth the money!!!!! You know your pedals are good when you have your name on your own batteries lol
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2:24 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, High Gain
2:48 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, Medium Gain
3:14 - Non Inverting Op Amp - Soft Clipping, Low Gain
4:08 - Mosfet Gain Stages, High Gain
5:55 - Mosfet Gain Stages, Medium Gain
6:16 - Mosfet Gain Stages, Low Gain
7:19 - JFET Stages, High Gain
7:52 - JFET Stages, Medium Gain
8:22 - JFET Stages, Low Gain
9:58 - Full Frequency Booster into JFET
10:52 - Full Frequency Booster into Mosfet
11:52 - Full Frequency Booster into Non Inverting Op Amp
I did this for me, but, you're welcome...
Good looks
Thanks!
Great!- thanks! I just love those MOSFET stages. Are the JFET stages stacked or just a single one into the other?
Thanks! They all sound about the same, which is what I expected. It's a big load of 'no real difference.'
I kinda like the versatility of the MOSFET circuit. Sounded the best with a boost to my ears
That first OD sound was just spot on. Articulate, yet dirty. Top drawer.
As an electrical engineer taking classes on all this stuff it’s so useful seeing some applications. You’ve really helped me out in building my own pedals, cheers!
As someone who is no an electrical engineer but wants to get into this stuff, where do I begin?
@@obsoletecd-rom good question! First of all how much do you know about electricity and circuit design? If nothing I would try to gain a cursory understanding of that first. Google ohms law and you should find a ton of resources. After that I’d look up op amps and treat them like a black box. Don’t worry about why they work just how. Research circuit transfer functions. What that means is a certain voltage(or current) in will have a corresponding voltage out. We refer to this as gain. Since you’re building guitar pedals it’s important to understand the frequency side of things. (Note this can get complex so if you don’t want to learn it I understand). You can google capacitors and frequency response. Basically frequency responses are derived from transfer functions (Gain equations). You can think of these the same way except certain frequencies are boosted while others are cut (usually). For this google filters- low pass, band pass, and high pass. If you don’t want to learn this just google filters and figure out how to construct them. Now that you’re here you’ll probably want to research FETS and diodes. With these circuit elements you can build a hell of a lot of pedals. Once you’ve done all that you’ll have a pretty good idea of what to learn next. It looks like a lot because it is. I’ve spent years learning this stuff, don’t get frustrated if it takes a while. Just learn step by step and you’ll enrich your understanding greatly.
@@chriscole9098 thank you for such a thorough response. Thanks for the warning too, I know it’s a lot of info but I’m looking at this long term and as a hobbyist. I appreciate it very much!
@@obsoletecd-rom If you're interested in DIY audio, consider joining the Audio Builders group on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/AudioBuildersWorkshop/. This group is affiliated with the Audio Engineering Society (AES); they have meet-ups at AES meetings. People in that group build everything from pedals to DSP units. Another similar discussion group, specifically targeting pedals, is on Reddit: r/DIYPedals. Find the group's web site; the sidebar has a collection of links to get you started. There are also several good web forums. One of my favorites is the DIYAudio-dot-com web site. Have fun! -Tom
any ideas where to get an schematic somewaht similar to the MOSFET gain stages that mr Wampler uses in his breadboard in this video.
it sounds just awesome
There needs to be a video like this for Fuzz. A lot of people don’t like Fuzz even though they love the tones of other people that use it. I used to be that way until I stopped using Fuzz into a totally clean amp. Certain fuzzes are still an acquired taste but I love the ones I own now.
Think Brian has already done that, maybe, think I've seen it a few years back.
Check out That Pedal Show (UK YT channel) they've got several on the different types of fuzz and overdrive including an hour plus show with Josh from JHS on the history germanium to silicon transistors, IC-op amps etc etc. Their website has a searchable database for individual pedals and concepts. Covid crap ever ends and international travel starts back I know the TPS lads have been dying to do a long form talk with Brian like they did a few years back with Analog man.
I love fuzz, but I hate disappearing in the mix.
Excellent idea! Brian, please do it, we want to know!
@@jburdsinfuse I couldn't agree more.
Why has nobody thought to present this information on RUclips in such a clear way? 10/10 excellent video!
MOSFET was by far the most universal. Thanks Brian for another great video!
It took me at least ten years to decide that I really did like my Blues Driver.
That's a fantastic pedal!
Blues Driver is easily top 10 OD’s of all time IMO.
That’s funny stuff, right there.
Me too! But I did put a Monty Allums kit in it.
Lemme guess, you became a dad?
OpAmp: 2:25
MOSFET: 4:08
JFET: 7:19
That breadboard is going to be the next wampler pedal. The concept itself is amazing.
the fact that he plays straight out of the breadboard goes a long way to bring down all myths and "magic" with pedals... everything is out there to see
@@riniones he didn't exactly disprove that, just showed that "interference or NOISE" is not the reason your playing sloppy and behind the rest of the band lol. A small bit of dirty power isn't an issue if you keep playing.
Edit: I got what you meant, and yeah he's consistently shown us what does what in a language anyone can understand. This absolute unit of a legend has inspired more people than the past 15 years of "grammy award winning artists" combined could ever do.
@@officialdirtmcgurt that's what I mean, you see the guy playing in this and other videos and you see the components right there... I like that kind of message
@@riniones he's shown prototype pedals that literally had a usps flat rate cardboard for insulation of the bottom of the veroboard. He showed that and laughed at how well it worked. He's a legit modern day mike matthews
What we/Brian need is a product that is the breadboard with all the differnt possibilities laid out and tweakable, with a big red BUILD IT AND TAKE MY MONEY button for when we've got exactly the tone we want.
So interesting! My favorite was the op amp. What I want now is a big list of OD pedals listed under each of the three circuits - would make shopping so much easier.
that would be helpful!
Agreed! This video is sort of pointless without that info.
@@thejasonblackburn Every od pedal will tell you what type of circuit it has. Invest your time and read about them and listen to demos.
Great idea!
@@mikecorey8370 Could do that but I'm lazy ;-) I want some gear nerd to do a major analysis and publish it online.
this overdrive is so transparent, you can even see the circuit
🤣
Yeah, I can hear the solder.
It should have some LEDs though, so you can see the electrons.
lol
@@wampler_pedals lol
I really enjoy this type of deep dive circuit discussion. It actually clarifies things a lot.
Howdy Brian, Congratulations on the Tumnus beating out the Klon on Andertons shootout! 👏👏👏😀
As a fan of the Narnia series, I want a Tumnus Deluxe with the original artwork. The use of the LED in the lamp post was great
@@chrismang7440 Yep, I liked that too!
The Archer smokes the original too don't get me wrong I'd love to have the original Klon but The J. Rockett Archer is the Klon for me!
@@chrismang7440 I bought it for that reason alone lol. Huge fan of the Narnia series, primarily the first one. Hurry, these original art Tumnus are getting pricey.
@@Teleman76 Glad I bought mine when I did then.
That epiphone looks gorgeous!
Do you know what model is it?
it's a 335 dot with Epiphone's Alnico Classic PRO Humbuckers. I pulled mine out and I measured out like Gibsons classic 57 I have put Lollar low wind , mojotone '59 CLONE HUMBUCKER , and Seymour Duncan APH-1n Alnico II Pro Humbucker. and I'm putting the epihone factory pick ups back in I can't find anything else that sounds good in that particular guitar
@@mikeanderson1316 I was wondering if it isn’t a 339 pro. The epiphone dot doesn’t have binding in the neck.
I understand what you're saying. I have both and the one without the binding is a studio. The dot meaning it has dots in the frets vs gibsons bars. my studio dot came with no dots so I put some in. my first Gibson confused me. as I was used to playing with dots in my guitar so I drill and insalled dots into the bars of my first traditional pro
339 pro is the small body
Brian, always great to listen to your wisdom and to see you. Your ears are like a goldmine, may a lot of gold come your way. Love the video.
I love how you share your knowledge and experience with the rest of us. Thanks for the humility.
Thanks Brian! Can't thank you (uncle doug, the Anderton's and TPS lads) enough for the information and giving a beat up old war horse a new interest/hobby. 4 years ago a random Anderton's video (guitar paradiso with Danish Pete and Mick Taylor) on my YT feed got me to pull out my acoustic guitar after a 30+ year hiatus and has turned into building amp, pedal kits and a few T & S style parts castors without electrocuting myself or burning down the house.
I'm sure you saw that the Tumnus won the best klon pedal on Anderton's blindfolded challenge. It's my favorite overdrive pedal.
Saw that too - and bought one. Also love it 🤘🏼
Wampler pedals usually have plenty of low end. I think that fullness is what helped it win. I honestly prefer it over a real klon.
Love it! Finally starting to understand what I like, what I need and what I hear on recordings! Please do more (I. E. Blues breaker, hard clipping, silicone vs led...)
I dig the sound of the JFET layout - it sounds like a tube power amp getting pushed.
Brian is like the "can't hug every cat" lady talking about his tele.
Over my head!
The MOSFET clipping w/ the boost was def my jam!
You know what puts a smile on my face? An IN-TUNE GUITAR! Thank you Brian, this is a great video. Love it!
It's amazing how a good player can make any gear sound good.
You're right! Some of them are completely different. So different, in fact, that one is a sound and the other is a shoe size. I LOVE it when people use the term "completely different" when they really mean "almost identical". Very informative.
As an electronics technician, I love this format, talking about the different circuits and showing how they sound. Also, the length is on point, not too long that it becomes tiring, just the right amount of information. Thank you, Brian! As another commenter requested, I would really like to see the same kind of explanation about Fuzzes; I love them (especially for low tunings, stoner rock, that kind of stuff), but always hear about it being difficult to "cut through the mix".
any ideas where to get an schematic somewaht similar to the MOSFET gain stages that mr Wampler uses in his breadboard in this video.
it sounds just awesome
Your videos and your products are top notch! You’re the Lindy Fralin of the pedal world. Thanks for sharing this info!
This confirmed that I'm all about that MOSFET life, and that's why I love my ZVEX Distortron.
First, I cannot find words to express how much I appreciate you making the effort to make this video. It probably had the reverse effect you intended when you made it. I am still "NOT" a fan of overdrive pedals. I'm crazy about your Reverb, Delay, and Compressor pedals. I still think your Paisley Deluxe Overdrive pedal as a possibility in the future, but, thank you for confirming not putting it at the top of my list. (Yes I did see the video about how the Paisley Deluxe Overdrive came about, which is what grabbed my attention to Wampler Pedals in the first place.) Again, I do want to thank you more than you can possibly imagine for this video. It keeps me from throwing hard-earned $$$$ away on some sound I am really not only not interested in, but have no desire for. Great Job on this video!!!! Please do not take this as a negative. I view this video as a total positive for me. It just confirms this 70+ year old is not stupid with "I Like What I Like" and what I do "Not" like is overdrive. You've shown the full spectrum...and it is "not" for me!!! Thank you again for giving me the information I need to make an intelligent decision!!! (Which does not mean I may not eventually the Paisley Deluxe Overdrive pedal. It just won't be at the top of my list. Don't think this negative overdrive as a negative...I already have 3 of your Reverb / Delay pedals!!! I am CRAZY about them!!! I guess I'm just too "Old School" for "overdrive.") Great Video!!!!
Absolutely minimal differences that you'd probably never hear in a mix anyway. Great video, it will save me tons of money, too bad I didn't see it 20 years ago.
I think your next pedal should be the Magicry Drive.
Would spend money on this!
Or a waaah goo goo drive!!!
Pronounced as, Made You Cry
Magicry-stortion
I liked the Mosfets best in these examples. Sounded great on it's own and handled the boost well too.
I struggled with them so much because I am mainly a home player, which is quite common really, but I eventually found if I bought one and initially wasn’t crazy about it, it was just because of not having the volume knob up high enough. Once I moved the volume up just a little more, it brought them to life. I helped a couple buddies out with it, move that knob up one and a half more! I just finally bought a Tumnus classic, and I absolutely love what it can do. It’s just a great little pedal, thanks Bryan!
He is talking about clipping diodes in overdrive/distortion pedals and uses the boosters to get more input gain.
The other way would be to use different boosters without clipping diodes to hit the rails of opamps, creating distortion that way..
TY Mr. Wampler!
It needed almost 40 years to find my Gain/Overdrive pedal and style.
I tried tons of pedals but none survived on my board.
Till i found some with the "hint of clean signal". Right now i use a King of Tone and a Morning Glory. That's more than enough for my music genre and i'm totally happy.
I really liked the MOSFET. Please keep making videos like this
Here is where I come for real knowledge of a particular circuit, etc. I use three of your pedals,( All I need). Save for my Fulltone OCD. ...You are the man Mr. Wampler.
Amazing how good all your breadboard circuits sound on these vids. Better than many production pedal demos. Thanks as always. Love the tech videos!
Wow. The Mosfet is creamy! My favorite. Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
mosfet and jfet both sound good and natural. Opamp always sounds like the clean signal is running in parallel with the clipped signal. Sounds like the pedal is running in an aux loop just adding a little over drive fake effect to the clean signal, and not effecting the whole signal. Tube Screamers always sound this way to me. Love these types of videos you do explaining what circuit sounds like what...... thanks. I love love love the Plexi Drive Deluxe........but sadly can't afford one. Maybe one day.
Brilliant video. Please do more like this. Very helpful.
Dude, I could geek out with you for at least 1-2 hours before my head exploded. Love your work!
Thanks for picking up the tele. It's good to understand SC vs HB with these boxes.
Love this vid. J-fet and mosfet are my favs in this comparison
I’d LOVE to see another dist-circuit comparison but with other consistent EQs preceding the gain stages (like cutting the bass significantly before clipping etc) and the impact on it all 👍👍
Cheers
Thanks!
It's nice to have a clue about things like this, and your videos make it more fun than reading a wiki or something.
Mr. Wampler you are the most interesting man on the internet and I mean that! Cool info and post! Thank!
I lean towards op amp overdrives, mosfet sometimes. It would be great to see a video on inverting vs non-inverting op amps!! Thanks for the great & intuitive vid, sir!
I've finally got (3) Gain-stages that I'm in love with: Barber Gain Changer SR, Fulltone OCD (1.7) & Thorpy Fallout Cloud. I can mix, match, stack, and get any sound that I can possibly need. It's been a long-Journey: "Searching for my Ultimate Tone"
Hey, I have an old Epi 335 dot like that. I retired it with good quality pots and TV Jones pups. Also, replaced bridge, stop bar and tuners with better quality stuff.
Love it!!!
Okay I fat gunned it...I REWIRED it not retired it...
It took me 30 years of playing to realize that all i need is a cranked amp and my guitar volume knob
Your telling me that you don’t need any fuzz
@the 92 project. Yes, I agree this is the most enjoyable way to play especially for blues and classic rock. But for the working musician that covers a wide range of covers it’s not practical for most situations. For one thing this type of playing works best with a cranked amp and you can’t always get to that to that sweet spot at a gig without overdrives. And if you’re covering anything from “brown eyed girl” to Metallica pedals give you the flexibility to make it work. If I was playing my own stuff in arenas I’d probably plug straight in. But even some of the greatest tone hounds usually have a OD or two on their boards. There’s really no best way to do it. It’s about making it work for whatever venue you play in cuz they’re all different
@@mygabrielle7477 Try an attenuator!
@magnus Berger. I’ve been using attenuators for years and still do. But 9 times out of 10 if I’m playing very different types of music in a set I’ll still have a pedal or two to color my tone for flexibility. I’m not disagreeing that plugging straight into a amp and using your guitar controls to control everything isn’t great. In fact it’s my favorite way to play. I’m just saying pedals have their place and sometimes they are essential. And most of the all time greats use them whether in the studio or on stage
@@mygabrielle7477 Ageee! Horses for courses. My favorite setup is a tube amp at a nice breakup combined with a couple different OD’s at moderate settings for flavor.
Nice to see you again Brian :) Great video. The lesson here seems to be "don't turn the gain all the way up". Except when it's single coils into non-inverting op amp.
Remember folks, these are all altering/helping the Brovado, which like any quality tube amp is the bedrock of all these tone. Thanks Brian. This is an excellent comparison of these gain stages.
please please please, more of this kind of content!!! your stuff is awesome as always!
Thank you for this brilliant description Brian, it's nice to know how overdrives are configured, and the difference in the output signal. I like the idea of talking through the circuitry of effects pedals giving an insight into the function of the stages. The op-amp was the best in my opinion.
Main thing for all three OD types is that I liked all of them better in the mid settings - that way there's nice crunch, but still a lot of chime. I like hearing those chewy legato phrases along with the ringing chord thing going on. Thanks for sharing Dr. Wampler - my wife can attest that I have far too many of your pedals strewn about my music room :)
This just reaffirmed the Plexi Drive as my favorite ever drive pedal 😁
Would love to see these types of videos often! Love learning the terminology, as well as the interplay between pickups (type, distance...), volume control on guitar, and the settings of each part of a pedal.
Plus, I am a home electronics geek. So it is great that you made them on a breadboard! MOSFET, for me!
I like them all but I definitely prefer the MOSFET. Thanks, this was super helpful!
It did really helps me to choose particular overdrive ! Thanks brian, now i can move on from the Pinnacle and choose what i need to push my amp with another ODs
This is killer content dude! When I was a wee young lad I got a TS for Christmas and HATED it. I thought it was broken because I could still hear the clean signal (not a very complimentary sound into a sterile clean Crate amp). It was only after discovering tube amps and running them a bit hot did I awaken to the majesty of these types of drives.
I have always wondered why overdrives never really worked as a boost for me until someone said put it in the loop. WOW,! There it is. Why is this not talked about more? The amount of cool pedals I’ve had and sold because of this is insane lol
Thank you! Mr Wampler for making Tumnus . I used to avoid od pedals , but now I keep always on my Tumnus.
Enjoyed the vid, would be interested in hearing more circuit types back to back and not just dirt but also comp and timed stuff.
I like the op-amp chips with mosfet combo especially with a Marshall JCM800 and hitting it with a sustainer plus Eq and booster I use a simple Maxon OD-808
another Eq in the fx loop and boss delay and a few small other little gadgets I get all I want from cleans to tearing the paint off the walls J-fets have there place all of this is subjective the Pot your using resistor values and just as you said pickups , amp your using EL34 , 6L6 , 34 etc all our going to sound differently. I like what your dong here first time I’ve seen your vids as I’m always playing and nodding my own stuff instead of web searching I’ve learned a few things thumbs up to your showing taking the time to do so
That was great. I like these kind of videos. Keep them coming. They're edumacating magicry. Also...can't wait for my Belle overdrive to show up this week. That should answer my question on which circuit I liked the best. Cheers!
Super helpful! A million thanks and I'm definitely getting a Plexi pedal...it's just fantastic.
Thanks for this. Never liked overdrives until I watched this, now I’ve found one the fit the sound I want
I took your overdrive circuit on the internet I modified it and turned it into a stereo Distortion unit with a double dual pole filter and basically put a 2.7 K resistor in series with the clipping diodes this blows away a boss od1x it only four milliamps of current drain it doesn't need a switch on it especially turn the volume of the guitar down a little bit with Dimebag pickups this produces the cleanest Distortion I've ever heard in my life something a little better than what's in a Peavey chorus stereo from 1987 amp
I still love my Tube Screamer that was modded to the spec's from your pedal Mod booklet ... it was fun doing some of those projects ... Thanks Brian for continuing the "Quest" for Tone ...
Your Plexidrive sounds versatile. I think I liked that one best.
I own one. I place a XTS Tejas drive in front of it, then into a Reeves Custom 50. Tone heaven.
My least favorite pedal I've played of his sadly.
I really liked the op amp in the low gain. I like hearing the subtle clean in there!
I've had MOSFET drives before. I didn't get on with 'em. Yet, in this video, that's the sound I like the most. Huh.
This was very helpful; I’ve never like TS style ODs - gonna go try some mosfets, that seemed to do the trick for me!
The Hudson Broadcast was the first drive I was happy with.Before that, I used Germanium fuzz circuits for all clipping needs.The Benson Pre, and Bigsound/Small sound Mini are both contenders.
IMO, the Boss BD2 is still superior to most of what is available.
My favorite with tele is the soft clipping types I play the Epi 335 like you are using straight into my Super Reverb 410.
Great vid...
Thanks,
I really like the loose, warn tone of the mosfet, but I also actually really like how the jfet sounds when boosted, like it's getting into gated fuzz territory
mosfet mid gain was my fav tone. very informative vid. nice work!
The guys at First Flight music in NYC turned me on to the Blackstone Mosfet overdrive. It’s an awesome sounding unit if you can get your hands on one.
Brian. it would be interesting to input an A 440 sine curve into the various overdrive devices and view the manner at which the signal is clipped on an oscilloscope.
Whatever circuit the Belle is!!! That’s my all time favorite. It is an incredible pedal and thank you for building it! I’ve sold off quite a few other Pedals now and I won’t miss them!
I know that's based on a noble, but I dont know which of these categories it falls into
Really Really great video. You’ve a great way of explaining pedal innards in layman’s terms. I learned soooo much from this video. Amazing to see you on the Guitarist Ireland forum from time to time. A real treat.
After looking at that wall
“I need your guitar, your amp and those pedals in the back”
I made a cheap fuzz/overdrive pedal using a couple of AC diodes 20 years ago that thing still sounds amazing 😉
The mixing in of some clean sound into the overdriven sounds is one of those things that once you know about it you can't not hear it anymore. I think that's why it works so well into a distorted amp, as it's distorting both clean and driven sounds at the same time, give a nice three dimensional sound.
My favorite has always been the DOD Overdrive Preamp 250. It works very well with my Peavey Classic 50 212 combo and Carvin MTS-3200 head. Looking at the schematic, it uses the LM741 op amp chip. I usually use the gain control around between 1/2 to 3/4 (depending on guitar and pickup output), and the level at 1/2. Gives the guitar a nice boost and snarl before it hits the amp.
Do I need a mosfet-type drive? No. Do I want a mosfet-type drive? Yes. That epi through the bravado sounded sweet
This was a fun watch, great video! I'm using FET based overdrives made to sound like classic amps. I boost them with a MOSFET booster. It's all stuff I built from DIY circuit boards. My old Peavey Classic 50/50 amp does not have a preamp to speak of, so it really takes advantage of the fet drives with real tone stacks in them. I have noticed that the mosfet circuits take a full range boost better than the jfet's but the jfets love a top end boost. My board has a Sunn Model T and a 70's Hiwatt preamp pedal at the moment, building a Bandmaster and Ampeg one soon.
I gave my original Tube Screamer to my brother when I went with a multi-effects system. I have regrets🥲
Your brother has no regrets.
Curious as to your multi model?
@@Ripprock1 who cares?
You should have kept that for sure! I have my screamers (808 Behringer clone and TS7) and I sometimes pair them with my older ZOOM GFX-5 multifx.
@@Ottophil Guitarist who like to be in the know like Alex Ramos.
I loved that sound of the MOSFET circuit. A little chunkier sounding. Really cool. Right now I'm using a rat type pedal as an overdrive. it's the Mountain pedals by Frost Giant. It's a rat with three selectable gain stages (I believe anyway) and a distortion/od switch. I'm really loving how it sounds as an od. Highly recommend.
The OpAmp was my favorite of the three, but all three have their place. For a basic circuit the OpAmp seemed more versatile with less need to tweak. I’d love to see the details on how you put together the breadboard. So what type does the Tumnus fall under??
Great video, I hope more videos extending this topic will come! thanks Brian
Very informative and helpful without getting lost in geekery. Thanks Brian!
Thanks! I like overdrive pedals a lot, especially to add crunch to my pop/rock organ sounds.
I had no idea people hated overdrive pedals tbh. If you’ve ever looked in a pedal cabinet in a guitar shop you could be forgiven for thinking every guitarist has about 20 different drive pedals minimum lol.
I just clicked on this video because I love learning things from you, and I wasn’t disappointed!
Distortion was that effect for me. Always preferred to stack ODs with a fuzz. As much as I've always enjoyed overdrive though, I've never enjoyed it as much as I have since I got my Belle a few weeks ago! I never wanna turn it off lol. Kudos on your magicry, Brian!
I love that you've chosen to use an Epiphone ES335 instead of a high end guitar or custom build. It gives people realistic comparisons with their likely used gear. Also they did a really good job making those 335s.
I have one myself. Such a nice instrument. It's usually the first one I reach for.
@@KC3UVF I like it a lot, they're very affordable and much better than the previous Dot and 335 models available by Epiphone.
@@RobertNolan Yeah. Mine is only a year or 2 old. It's the Dot Deluxe model.
@@KC3UVF those are pretty good. He's holding onto an Inspired By Gibson ES335, they're the newest version.
I just got the Inspired by Gibson ES-339 in Cherry Red and it's really impressive straight out of the box. Wanted a smaller body since my strike zone isn't as big as some people 6ft+ and it's perfect.
Love overdrive pedals! Different pedals for different situations!
I have tried a ton of OD pedals to the point now that its almost as if they're the same thing over and over and over. What I love about the Timlus deluxe is that Brian gives options, switches to his pedals that make em stand out and most importantly, worth the money!!!!!
You know your pedals are good when you have your name on your own batteries lol
Mr Wampler schoolin again! Thanks Brian! Needed the refresher! :)
I'm an op-amp guy, symetrical led clippers, nice and smooth. Fets sound more fuzzy, mos-fets sound good with less gain.