Is The Shining Overrated?
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- In this episode, Alex and Jonathan discuss the legacy of The Shining. The acclaimed classic directed by Stanley Kubrick, adapted from a Stephen King novel. Does it hold up? Or is the film overrated? Did Jack Nicholson go too far? Are any of the theories true? We discuss it all.
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I remember watching this when I was a kid. Didn't understand it, thought it was boring. Watched it as an adult, understood it but thought it was boring as hell. Shot beautifully but I think it's hugely overrated.
Yep….the shining suffers from ‘Mona Lisa’ syndrome
The dumbest film ever imo 1% story, 0% entertainment
Completely overrated. The characters were butchered, the story was ambiguous. It is ultimately a movie about architecture.
yep
nice hotel, loved the mountain shot in the beginning
that was it..
I recently drove by the hotel...
The least scary movie of all time. Unless you find the sight of blood scary. A chore to get through. And I’d argue that it’s always the same experience every time, that is very, very boring.
It's overrated because they tell you what's going to happen and they do a piss job of showing how Jack went crazy. We already know he's going to do whatever the last guy did, but why/how?
My favorite flaw :
The characters are filmed way further than needed. *This is a perfect Stanley Kubrick move.* But it anihilate any sense of danger, since everything is far away from you. For exemple, when the kid is playing in the hallways, finaly meeting the two sisters : this isn't scary, they're literally 5 meters away ! And the "jumpscare" music starts too early !
I have never watched this film from start to finish-- and that says something, not so good. If the Godfather is on, for example, it's going real me in and keep my attention-- even if I picked it up half way through the film. But the Shining? I've stumbled upon it a half-dozen times in my life, and nothing ever stuck. I believe I even tried once, to start from the beginning and watch it through. Didnt go the distance. All this tells me one thing; it's not a great movie.
Yes, it is. It looks great, the cinematography is amazing, but it’s style over substance. It’s a complete spit in the face to Stephen King’s very warm and personal novel, and Jack Nicholson, as much as I love him, is flat-out hilarious in this movie rather than scary.
As much as the film is dumb, King novels are dumb too because it's always some supernatural shit and never the humans themselves. Someone is going crazy? It's because some supernatural shit. Someone is displaying character flaws? It's because he's possessed by some supernatural shit. A family is falling apart? It's because they're possessed by some supernatural shit. It's just straight out goof stuff. I read something once about King saying his biggest fear was loss of family. And I was like "that's brilliant, but then why do you have to insert all this silly ass supernatural stuff all the time?" It's so cheap.
@@okyouknowwhatever I don’t really care a lot of supernatural stuff either, I’m atheist, but the reason for Stephen King doing it is because he has his own reason for it, he’s christian and like to draw analogies between the material and supernatural to heaven and hell and shit like that. While I’m not a huge fan of his work, he is a good writer and wrote the Shining during a bad time in his life, reflecting his own troubles with alcoholism around his children, and it was his outlet, and I do kind of have to respect that as well as the fact that, in the book, in 1975, he made a black guy one of the heroes and made Wendy an independent badass, so there’s all that. Besides, the story is set up to where the hotel itself is the villain and not Jack, which makes him a more sorrowful and tragic character because he really does love his family, whereas in the film, while the mental illness angle is far more interesting at the end of the day, Jack is just a monster from the start, and there’s no tension because nothing happens to Wendy and Danny. Jack didn’t even need to go to the hotel to kill them, just give him a couple more months of normal life and he would’ve done it anyway. 😅
@@okyouknowwhatever um, Cujo? Delores Claiborne? Gerald’s Game? Apt Pupil? Misery? Joyland? Rage? The Running Man? None of those stories have anything supernatural in them whatsoever.
And what do you mean all of his characters with flaws are the way they are due to supernatural forces? Have you ever actually read a Stephen King story, or did you just read that Jack Torrance is a character with an arc in the novel, compared to the caricature of a crazy person he is in the film?
The shining is not ha horror movie its just boring. Stop interpreting stuff that is not in it its bad acted and misses crutial parts of the book.
Honestly just watched it for the 5th time today and I keep trying to find things to enjoy but this movie is so laughably bad I just can't deal with it LOL
Very often bad acting, jack nicholson carries the whole movie
I can't lie to myself I've always felt The Shining Is technically brilliant but *extremely boring* ,
and Nicholson's role dosen't sell the psychological fear and torment and he honestly never felt right for this part or just didn't play It effectively.
The real psychological tension and surreal brilliance Is the Overlook Hotel Itself and what happens within It ,
but Nicholson was too over the top In the wrong way with delivery imo. It's still a classic but It's not anywhere near my top 10 horror list.
Shelley duvall is an absolutely horrendous actress..their relationship was one of the most unbelievable on screen relationships I've seen, plus it's boring drawn out and not in the least bit scary to me.
I don't understand why it's so loved but each to their own I guess.
I love this movie, but I can understand why it wouldn't hit for a younger person. Watching the Shining is almost like reading a short story
Yes
“It’s my favorite horror movie. I’m not a massive horror movie fan.” Ah, that explains everything.
I feel like Ari Aster captured everything you’re explaining, but better- especially in Hereditary.
The shining isn't a bad movie but it's certainly overrated. It's slow, fairly long.
I like the movie... but the thing is this, it literally makes no sense... it's not something that can be "decoded," no... it simply makes no sense. He's a ghost caught in a time loop in that hotel... yet he has a life of his own in Boulder until he comes to that hotel... but then at the end of the movie he also freezes to death... so the GHOST dies? I don't think so... the movie counts on you not understanding it in order to be wowed by how it's enigmatic... but also... it flat out just isn't concerned with making sense by any stretch of the imagination
Very
No
The Shining is bad if you've read the book.
I never read the book and the movie nearly put me to sleep.
My friends last Halloween night: There's nothing scary about it. This movie is pretty bad.
Me: So you have chosen death...
its pure garbage. Not scary at all
It is massively overrated. It is nothing like the source material, and completely missed the point of the story. It is trash. If it didn't use the Shining name, and took the shine out. And based on cabin fever it would be better. However as book adaptation it's trash.
Stanley Kubrick himself is highly overrated. 2001 was really dumb. Eyes Wide Shut was corny. Full Metal Jacket was all over the place and terribly paced. The Shining was written by Stephen King who even said the movie was garbage. If you want to watch the ACTUAL Stephen King version of The Shining you can easily find it. Other than nifty cinematography Kubrick's writing and pacing was horrendous.
2001 is dumb?
Lol 2001 was 1 year before first land on the moon.
İt was the most important sci-fi movie of all time.
And without it we couldnt have CGI like Star Wars,Terminator 2,Alien,Jurassic Park,Blade Runner,Matrix,Star Trek and many others.
2001 was a masterpiece of our civilization.
@@lifeinthehands6972that's actually not true. 2001 came out the same day as planet of the apes..... which I'd argue is a much better movie and has better effects. Not for space stuff but for the ape design. So no, 2001 was a good film but you can't credit it for every blockbuster when we had James bond movies and planet of the apes and night of the living dead all in the same year
Answer is
No
One of the Worst horror films of all time
The sequel is good..the first one is meh