@@michaeldalpiaz540 Flying IFR should really be taught to every pilot. Everything you need to fly safely, and with the help of modern VOR and ILS systems, even navigate and land in the shoddiest of weather, is on the instrument panel. I'm only speaking in my experience as a sim pilot though, I've heard that irl it's made a lot more difficult due to how screwed up the body's spatial orientation gets if there's no visual reference for movement.
@@gregoryborton6598 Yup, every pilot that goes through basic training is required to have 3 hours of simulated IMC training ("hood work") to prepare them for the rare chance of venturing into IMC. A competent pilot will be able to save his life by using the instruments to get himself out of IMC (U-turn or descent). Actual instrument rating requires a lot more hood work (40 hours minimum) and the ability to incorporate every possible procedure and equipment emergency. And of course without autopilot. However, instrument flying skills perish quickly and easily so the FAA mandates that instrument rated pilots meet certain criteria for recency of experience (called "currency").
As a private instrument pilot, though years ago, I can relate to how extremely welcome, to put it mildly, it is to see those approach lights long before reaching minimums, especially after having to depend on the instruments for some time to get there, such as descending in steps with other planes at a busy airport. The pros must get used to it since they do it all the time, but when it's only occasionally that one has to do it, you can't help but experience quite an adrenaline rush followed by marked relief when you can see those super bright lights guiding you home.
I moved to the USA from UK about 30 years ago, and our first destination was this exact airport during a severe thunderstorm. It shut all runways down for almost an hour. This was my first experience with a severe thunderstorm in the USA and I thought the world was ending.
I''m not a pilot, but I've heard that any landing you can walk away from, is a good landing. I kinda like that expression. This cockpit view gives you a feel of what these guys do on a daily basis. Personaly, I'd have soiled myself. And given that this was posted in 2011, I'd propably not have stopped screaming yet. Nice one guys. Kudos.
Friend, when I first flew I was terrified....I though I would not be coming back... I was the most scared person on that aircraft. It's ok to be afraid. Planes are safe....I now have flown a lot, and am used to it. I am glad I did it....I have seen the Pyramids of Egypt, a lot of wonderful things, and met lovely people. Give it a try...Good luck
He had 3 red and 1 white on the PAPI and his EGPWS called "Glideslope"... That's a bit more than I am comfortable with. His PNF also should have called it and he should have called correcting. I wouldn't have been proud of this.
You can always hit the centreline, if you know for sure exactly how the wind is blowing.... and nobody ever knows that for sure!!! That was pretty good judging by the cockpit indicators, and the wheels stayed off the grass..... lots of accidents are caused by low level corrections, in the interesting area just above the ground! Not to mention the possibility of skidding sideways on a wet runway... patience!! Cross wind component looked enough to get a Cessna 150 down going square across.
A 1 dot deviation is not a huge deal and actually VERY common. It's not the end of the world. Also the crosswind crabbing technique did just fine. Landing isn't about being perfect. No landing is ever perfect. Flying is about being safe. Despite what you call a dangerous approach because they were 1 stinkin dot low, was actually a very safe approach. I would without thought fly with those pilots any day.
It always amazes me that such a wonderful piece of technology as a modern airliner has such Mickey Mouse windshield wipers. Are you telling me that the engineers couldn't come up with something better? I think of this every time I see one of these rainy day landings or takeoffs.
The wipers need to do their job below 1000’ and also have the ability to stow properly at 34,000’ doing Mach .80. The fact the engineers can accomplish both is actually quite an accomplishment.
The fact that even HAS wipers is a win. That 757 is old school though, either junk it or give it a refitting: www.aviationtoday.com/2017/05/09/ups-upgrade-boeing-757-767-cockpits/
@@Species5008 judgmental , nice word and you are right , i read the technical explanation , so i withdraw . nevertheless , maybe we can see it as a sign, given all of the technical perfection , forces of nature are really strong
Many Boeing airplanes are actually certified to land with a full crab for a x-wind and then straighten up after touchdown for the roll out, without using the wing low sideslip method at all.
wish boeing had the wisdom and ability to finess the 757, then build another few hundred more. Actually, more than just a few hundred more, for the kinks are all out, the experience of hundred of thousands of flight hours is in the books, and the 757 is just a predictable workhorse that crosses oceans, continents, with little complaints from anybody involved in its operation.
In a strong crosswind you want to be slightly upwind at touchdown. Put the downwind gear on the centerline. If you blow a tire downwind, or a thrust reverser does not deploy upwind you've bought some runway to wiggle with downwind. Keep in mind also that runway contamination/braking reports will be a factor. A crab in the 75' is fine all the way through touchdown, no need to kick it out and frankly kicking it out at 20-50 ft in gusty crosswinds is asking for a "stress event" in your life. The gear trucks are designed to take the side loads and a slick surface works to your advantage in this scenario. "Glideslope" callout over the lights is not something you go jerking the airplane around over slight back pressure to slow the ROD until your over the pavement - just keep what you have. The ONLY action to take if your at risk is TOGA - you don't try and fix it/recapture at 75ft. He was not in any way at risk as he had visual. CAT III - yeah TOGA - but in CAT III you're just a passenger and the computers NEVER get it wrong. :) - 737 driver.
The guys up front are fully capable of hand flying the approach and landing...as a retired pilot I can tell you most of the time we couple the auto pilot to the approach...sit back and monitor...so don't think we are super humans...
🤔🤔😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🙈🙈🙈😥😥😥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...this was incredible to see. Below glideslope with a call out, 3reds on the papi, and landed off runway centerline🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️, maybe its allowed because of the storm?? And btw, I'm an airline pilot, based in the atlantic region of Canada(air Canada express) and we fly in really really bad winter storms with very high winds, just consider that before you criticize my observation and understand that I'm simply asking....how and wether that was allowed to do😁
A/C it's okay and passengers are okay .. that's what we called safe landing .. regardless to there position on GS and they weren't aligned with the Localizer but all of that due to the Downdrafts from the thunderstorms and there were X-wind component that's the reason !!! And for ur information guys in order to land in this type Conditions the crew must obtained the Low Visibility Approach rating .. those guys did a great job .
whoever comments about the center of the runway obviously has no idea about the notion of "crabbing" and the effects it produces prior and immediately after touchdown. to put it simple, it's very hard to push 100 tons in the direction of the runway, with blasting winds pushing all over the fuselage towards a different direction. believe me, they did it by the book.
I hated instrument training, especially approaches under the hood & the few I've done in actual IFR down to near minimums. I'm such a visual person it's hard to not see where I am & trust my gauges.
As a passenger I noticed some pilots seem to make a concerted effort for the wheels to touch down as smoothly as possible, while others just want the plane on the ground.
Also, regarding the stupid discussions on "centerline" - I know of many flight instructors who teach their students not to depart from the centerline AT ALL COSTS. and then the student becomes a pilot one day, flies in shitty conditions, and he tries to follow the golden rule, focusing on the centerline and not on his speed, his altitude, his descent rate, etc, ending up in a lot worse shit than if he just landed the damn thing safely. doing that with passengers onboard is really a bad idea.
they could compansate for the crosswind landing by taking the plane a bit right from the centerline of the runway and make it closer to the centerline or exectly on it at touchdown.
Это же её как чувствовать надо, машину... Каждое крылышко... Чуть качнулось - надо среагировать, совершить действие в противоположную сторону для уравновешивания, постоянная балансировка, все антеннки человека и машины синхронизируются безперерывно. Управляют - боги!!
This wasn't a low visibility landing, as you can see then saw the Runway at about 900ft. And you can see also (of couse, if you understand the basic of aviation) that they made a low approach, 3 red one yellow.
one thing that would be nice: (and i think we have the technology for that), when the visibility is like that they should have a computer-dynamic 3d image that is projected onto the windshield showing the position of the runway.. that could be a serious improvement to planes and a great help to pilots!! anyone agree?
The Faith that is needed in the instruments is almost incomprehensible.
That´s the reason why non IFR pilots have less chances to survive when getting into such conditions. You must get used to trust the instruments.
@@michaeldalpiaz540 Flying IFR should really be taught to every pilot. Everything you need to fly safely, and with the help of modern VOR and ILS systems, even navigate and land in the shoddiest of weather, is on the instrument panel. I'm only speaking in my experience as a sim pilot though, I've heard that irl it's made a lot more difficult due to how screwed up the body's spatial orientation gets if there's no visual reference for movement.
People have faith in god - at least the instruments exist and are proven to work.
@@gregoryborton6598 Yup, every pilot that goes through basic training is required to have 3 hours of simulated IMC training ("hood work") to prepare them for the rare chance of venturing into IMC. A competent pilot will be able to save his life by using the instruments to get himself out of IMC (U-turn or descent).
Actual instrument rating requires a lot more hood work (40 hours minimum) and the ability to incorporate every possible procedure and equipment emergency. And of course without autopilot.
However, instrument flying skills perish quickly and easily so the FAA mandates that instrument rated pilots meet certain criteria for recency of experience (called "currency").
@@lxxsxxx7845 careful you don't cut yourself on all that edge.
I just want to tell you both: Good luck, we're all counting on you
😂
lmao
its okay, they are on instruments! ba da da da ding ding din!
We not only need someopne who can fly a plane, but who also didn't have fish for dinner!
You cant take a guess for another 2 hours?
"The fog is getting thicker and Leon's getting...laaaarrger"
Its a big pretty white plane with wheels and curtains in the window. It looks like a big tylenol.
@@JakinElwood77 one of the best characters in that movie. When he unplugs the runway lights...🤣
HAHAHAHAHA
Hahaha! Omg one of my favorite movies lol
Underrated comment! Well done, sir.
As a private instrument pilot, though years ago, I can relate to how extremely welcome, to put it mildly, it is to see those approach lights long before reaching minimums, especially after having to depend on the instruments for some time to get there, such as descending in steps with other planes at a busy airport. The pros must get used to it since they do it all the time, but when it's only occasionally that one has to do it, you can't help but experience quite an adrenaline rush followed by marked relief when you can see those super bright lights guiding you home.
Looks like I quit the wrong week to quit drinking.
yep sure was lol
Brilliant landing, given the conditions, first class skipper
Imagine being in that thick fog and all of a sudden you hear "terrain terrain, pull up!"
It would be too late at that point.
Yeah man didn't you watch Die Hard 2?
You'd press toga and point the nose up
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I moved to the USA from UK about 30 years ago, and our first destination was this exact airport during a severe thunderstorm. It shut all runways down for almost an hour. This was my first experience with a severe thunderstorm in the USA and I thought the world was ending.
hahaah the world was ending .
NAILED the landing! Great job....
Didn't nail the glideslope nor the centre line
All wet runway landings are great.
I''m not a pilot, but I've heard that any landing you can walk away from, is a good landing. I kinda like that expression. This cockpit view gives you a feel of what these guys do on a daily basis. Personaly, I'd have soiled myself. And given that this was posted in 2011, I'd propably not have stopped screaming yet.
Nice one guys. Kudos.
AHHH great memories. Believe it or not, that is the fun part of flying!!
Scared to death to fly...so I watch these vids. Beautiful from the cockpit!!!
Friend, when I first flew I was terrified....I though I would not be coming back...
I was the most scared person on that aircraft.
It's ok to be afraid. Planes are safe....I now have flown a lot, and am used to it.
I am glad I did it....I have seen the Pyramids of Egypt, a lot of wonderful things, and met lovely people.
Give it a try...Good luck
Flight Simulator X players be like: AHHH HE WASNT ON CENTERLINE, AND HE WASN"T ON PERFECT GLIDESLOPE AHHHH
He had 3 red and 1 white on the PAPI and his EGPWS called "Glideslope"... That's a bit more than I am comfortable with. His PNF also should have called it and he should have called correcting. I wouldn't have been proud of this.
@@Duukar Agreed 100%
@@Duukar I concur
@@jaydouglas8845 Sometimes I'm not even on the runway... :)
Ah yes, here come the RUclips armchair experts telling a 757 captain he's doing it wrong.
The skill on display here is incredible... and that's just the cameraman!
Those wipers would drive me nuts 😅
Much respect Captain and First Officer.
The joy they must have when they hear the 50 ring out as they pass over the piano keys.
OMFG yeah.
The jargon in this comment is impressive.
Always get a kick out of the windshield wipers don’t know why I just do
Dad talked about pilots switching to a glass cockpit from steam gauges and perhaps their reluctance to upgrade , dad loved that plane
Big balls! Mental job! Glad we have folk brave and clever enough to fly!
OMG, 3 red, pull up.. pull up!
It that situation you're glad you're in a Boeing and a real yoke to hang on to
Nice! Took me 10 years to find this video.
Boy...I was easing the yoke over to the right. Glad I had some help in touching down.
You can always hit the centreline, if you know for sure exactly how the wind is blowing.... and nobody ever knows that for sure!!! That was pretty good judging by the cockpit indicators, and the wheels stayed off the grass..... lots of accidents are caused by low level corrections, in the interesting area just above the ground! Not to mention the possibility of skidding sideways on a wet runway... patience!! Cross wind component looked enough to get a Cessna 150 down going square across.
The beginning reminded me of when Frank Zappa was blinded by the yellow snow, and he sang "I CAN'T SEE...I CAN'T SEE...OH WOE IS ME!!!"
No matter what else, when you bust out, it's a good feeling.
No body can help the Pilots in the Air. The Game between God , Devil and Pilots.
A 1 dot deviation is not a huge deal and actually VERY common. It's not the end of the world. Also the crosswind crabbing technique did just fine. Landing isn't about being perfect. No landing is ever perfect. Flying is about being safe. Despite what you call a dangerous approach because they were 1 stinkin dot low, was actually a very safe approach. I would without thought fly with those pilots any day.
It's been like 15 years since I've flown on a 757.
thank you captain , amazing video loved it happy flying
Good thing for lights and technology.
This is just fantastic weather -said no pilot ever
Good pilots amaze me...and these pilots are good!
It always amazes me that such a wonderful piece of technology as a modern airliner has such Mickey Mouse windshield wipers. Are you telling me that the engineers couldn't come up with something better? I think of this every time I see one of these rainy day landings or takeoffs.
they make noise like in a cheap car
The wipers need to do their job below 1000’ and also have the ability to stow properly at 34,000’ doing Mach .80. The fact the engineers can accomplish both is actually quite an accomplishment.
The fact that even HAS wipers is a win. That 757 is old school though, either junk it or give it a refitting: www.aviationtoday.com/2017/05/09/ups-upgrade-boeing-757-767-cockpits/
Let's have you design them, Mr. Perfect. Since you seem so judgmental. Let's see what you come up with
@@Species5008 judgmental , nice word and you are right , i read the technical explanation , so i withdraw . nevertheless , maybe we can see it as a sign, given all of the technical perfection , forces of nature are really strong
GREAT LANDING!!!!
Good job in those weather conditions
Comments divided between people who respect the skill and say appropriate things and those who know better and land their sim perfectly every time.
My dad is a pilot rough weather and turbulence is hard and great job pilots
Below glideslope...papi with 3 red lights... landing outside of the center line...
So many opportunities for the PM to call a go around...
God bless the ILS!
Beautiful!! Wish I was in the last row
Wow considering the conditions a perfect landing!
Waiting to see that creature on the twilight zone fly past
Glide slope.......”Hey Cap those PAPIs sure are pretty when they are all red.”
Many Boeing airplanes are actually certified to land with a full crab for a x-wind and then straighten up after touchdown for the roll out, without using the wing low sideslip method at all.
Auldrick Brown Interesting.
Skill!!! I appreciate pilots.
I've been in a similiar situation in my car...I can totally relate😁
It's even worse on a bike because the brakes don't work in the rain.
Great job !!
Great landing!
Cool video thanks for upload.
very impressive.
That was so cool!! Awesome!
to be honest . It was very smooth landing. well done
Good job, Capt!
wish boeing had the wisdom and ability to finess the 757, then build another few hundred more. Actually, more than just a few hundred more, for the kinks are all out, the experience of hundred of thousands of flight hours is in the books, and the 757 is just a predictable workhorse that crosses oceans, continents, with little complaints from anybody involved in its operation.
Wish they hadn't killed the 757 or the 717.
Why stop with the -300s? Feels like the lives of 757s were cut too soon...
In a strong crosswind you want to be slightly upwind at touchdown. Put the downwind gear on the centerline. If you blow a tire downwind, or a thrust reverser does not deploy upwind you've bought some runway to wiggle with downwind. Keep in mind also that runway contamination/braking reports will be a factor. A crab in the 75' is fine all the way through touchdown, no need to kick it out and frankly kicking it out at 20-50 ft in gusty crosswinds is asking for a "stress event" in your life. The gear trucks are designed to take the side loads and a slick surface works to your advantage in this scenario. "Glideslope" callout over the lights is not something you go jerking the airplane around over slight back pressure to slow the ROD until your over the pavement - just keep what you have. The ONLY action to take if your at risk is TOGA - you don't try and fix it/recapture at 75ft. He was not in any way at risk as he had visual. CAT III - yeah TOGA - but in CAT III you're just a passenger and the computers NEVER get it wrong. :) - 737 driver.
In my recommended, here in 2021... and all I could think about was the cast of Airpllane behind them " on instruments".
Shirley you can’t be serious. I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley.
Roger Roger
The guys up front are fully capable of hand flying the approach and landing...as a retired pilot I can tell you most of the time we couple the auto pilot to the approach...sit back and monitor...so don't think we are super humans...
🤔🤔😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🙈🙈🙈😥😥😥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...this was incredible to see. Below glideslope with a call out, 3reds on the papi, and landed off runway centerline🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️, maybe its allowed because of the storm??
And btw, I'm an airline pilot, based in the atlantic region of Canada(air Canada express) and we fly in really really bad winter storms with very high winds, just consider that before you criticize my observation and understand that I'm simply asking....how and wether that was allowed to do😁
We did this two weeks ago on a flight from Reno to Atlanta, very rough turbulence for the last two hours and heavy snow above Atlanta. Awful!
We've just been shown it's flex power
First time to see a video not on centerline at touchdown
Let's all watch you have a go shall we?
"It looks like a great, big, Tylenol"...
Amazing skills
Great video....erie
That was a great approach given the conditions. When did they disengage the autopilot?
The 757 was Boeing's 2 greatest plane. The first greatest is the Jumbo 747.
A little to much left of centerline on landing
Horizontal lineup on Final needs to be better!!❤😂
A/C it's okay and passengers are okay .. that's what we called safe landing .. regardless to there position on GS and they weren't aligned with the Localizer but all of that due to the Downdrafts from the thunderstorms and there were X-wind component that's the reason !!! And for ur information guys in order to land in this type Conditions the crew must obtained the Low Visibility Approach rating .. those guys did a great job .
Unreal
Respect!
whoever comments about the center of the runway obviously has no idea about the notion of "crabbing" and the effects it produces prior and immediately after touchdown. to put it simple, it's very hard to push 100 tons in the direction of the runway, with blasting winds pushing all over the fuselage towards a different direction. believe me, they did it by the book.
Yeah all good with the crab but you still should land on the centerline. Unprofessional.
No problem for this pilot.
Making it look easy
I hated instrument training, especially approaches under the hood & the few I've done in actual IFR down to near minimums. I'm such a visual person it's hard to not see where I am & trust my gauges.
What horondos storm not much they could do about weather at destinstion airpirt well done pilits for getting plane down brill
As a passenger I noticed some pilots seem to make a concerted effort for the wheels to touch down as smoothly as possible, while others just want the plane on the ground.
All PILOTS want to land smoothly. If you don’t the flight attendants kick their butts!
Instruments let you fly blind. Not blind faith but you still have to have faith in them.
Beautiful!
Nuvens lindas feitas por Deus!
Smooth
Hats off to communication systems
the boeing 757 is a pencil with wings.
Also, regarding the stupid discussions on "centerline" - I know of many flight instructors who teach their students not to depart from the centerline AT ALL COSTS. and then the student becomes a pilot one day, flies in shitty conditions, and he tries to follow the golden rule, focusing on the centerline and not on his speed, his altitude, his descent rate, etc, ending up in a lot worse shit than if he just landed the damn thing safely. doing that with passengers onboard is really a bad idea.
they could compansate for the crosswind landing by taking the plane a bit right from the centerline of the runway and make it closer to the centerline or exectly on it at touchdown.
Это же её как чувствовать надо, машину... Каждое крылышко... Чуть качнулось - надо среагировать, совершить действие в противоположную сторону для уравновешивания, постоянная балансировка, все антеннки человека и машины синхронизируются безперерывно. Управляют - боги!!
This wasn't a low visibility landing, as you can see then saw the Runway at about 900ft. And you can see also (of couse, if you understand the basic of aviation) that they made a low approach, 3 red one yellow.
its actually flying on the wipers alone
Love it
Butter
Centerlineeee centerlineeee
You gotta have HUGE balls to land a plane, flying through clouds like that and not being able to see shit...😳
Ya, nice but it was also on autopilot till a couple of hundred feet.
All the sudden you hear “whoop whoop, pull up “ “terrain , terrain”
one thing that would be nice: (and i think we have the technology for that), when the visibility is like that they should have a computer-dynamic 3d image that is projected onto the windshield showing the position of the runway.. that could be a serious improvement to planes and a great help to pilots!! anyone agree?
friedchicken Russians have That in mig 29 i think
thats why you have ILS
Can’t believe how quiet the wipers are, 737’s are really noisy.
That pilot was right on the money
Assuming this had been a fair-weather landing, a considerate pilot keeps the nose wheel off the center lights to avoid annoying the pax.
I would argue a really good pilot hits every single one. A couple of rhythmic bumps is a small price to pay for precision.
cockpit landing or cockpit view landing? did the other parts of the plane land?..lol
wow!! A lefty! How come the radar didn't show any precip!